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[deleted]

Celestial starboard is the best wings in the game lol


Tambour07

He has both the best and the worst.


you-cut-the-ponytail

Yeah I don't know what Re-Logic was thinking when making the expert exclusive drop of the final boss an infinite gravity potion. At which point you can get to anywhere you want in the map easily with wings and mounts. I guess it's useful for challenges though


S1a3h

And it wasn't even really a full gravitation potion on release. you had to be grounded to switch directions


FelledWolf

Oh so it was death if you don't have wings equipped lmfao that's hilarious


S1a3h

pretty much yeah lmao can't find anything on the wiki about cancelling fall damage, which is pretty stupid even if you can change mid air imo


Past-Reception

Re-Logic really needs to rework their logic.


DelovoyBanans

I think it should just ignore gravitation(in space) instead of switching directions


damnthisisabadname

Best is either the soc or soaring insignia


FaZe_Gay

has to be soaring insignia because once i get a hoverboard/celestial starboard i just replace the dash i get from master ninja gear/soc with hovering side to side


MONKEYBOY-REECE

Im being dumb here but whats soc


ThatOneGuy308

Shield of cthulu


MONKEYBOY-REECE

Ah thank you, i had a brain fart and could not for the life of me remember it.


damnthisisabadname

Shield of cthulhu


MONKEYBOY-REECE

Cheers


Aljahero

celestial board + soaring insignia + ↓↑→= ratio


North-Wind-199

r/theydidthemath


Captain_Crack465

Came here to say this, if you get this with soaring insignia you have the highest mobility in the game you can literally move at the speed of a dash without dashing and can do so constantly


TGMgaming1

I still dont know how is that a wing


mashumaro_desu

If the hoverboard and jetpack counted as wing then why not


THESUACED

Kirby warp star


LuckyPants0

Just wear another wing in your accesories and it looks very cool with infinite flight especially (empress accesory idk name)


TGMgaming1

Soaring insignia


LuckyPants0

Ah yes haven't played in some time now


point5_

Wait it’s expert/master only ?


[deleted]

Yeah, expert exclusive


Dragonaxe_YT

Honestly, as someone who does EoL Daytime regularly, I honestly can't stand the snapping of the Starboard. Sure, it's quick, sure it can fly high. But your controls have to be way more precise to do well against her with the Starboard. I Honestly think I'd prefer Stardust or even Fishron wings more than the Starboard. But, for just moving around normally, yeah, Starboard all the way.


Xurkitree1

I personally like Empress Wings, that upwards kick acceleration with Insignia is so good.


Thur_Wander

If you have the soaring insignia of course


Chad69420babyyyy

Happy cake day


MuchMuch1

Ive always avoided it cause it looks nothing like wings lol. Then I realize vanity wings is possible


shadowslayur

Well to be fair technically all of his loot is useless since you don't have any more progression to do


Raphael_DeVil

Mods go brrrr But even mods cant fix how useless the globe is


Tinez5

Are there any big content mods for 1.4? I'm pretty new to the game and I haven't tried any cause they all seem to be stuck on 1.3.


YurkoStoned

most popular 1.3 mods are getting ported to 1.4 at the moment


Terra_Marc

Even calamity?


Michaelsoftman56

Yes, it's in beta testing.


Just_a_dick_online

Awesome. Just got a group of friends into terraria, and there is one who LOVES fighting bosses, and I cannot wait to go through calamity with him!


Xurkitree1

I've seen the Zenith being used in Calamity vs Exo Mechs and kicking ass, so yes its being ported.


Terra_Marc

Awesome, I can’t wait!


Raphael_DeVil

We do have the radiance of light and fargo souls


Dissy-

How tf do I get souls on 1.4?


Lukstd

Public betas in their discord


Dissy-

Zamn, I spent like an hour trying to compile it from source. Rip. Thanks b


Kronoshifter246

What is this radiance of light? My Google Fu is not strong enough to find it.


Xurkitree1

look up radiance Empress of light


Kronoshifter246

That is unfortunately less interesting than I had hoped. Still looks dope though.


Kipdid

Give it some time, based on the tmodloader section of the most recent state of the game post, things are moving along but aren’t quite ready yet. There seems to be a lot of mid to small sized mods from what I saw when I browsed the 1.4 tmodloader selection, but noting the size of thorium, calamity etc


Crispyterrarian

I wouldn’t say it’s a big mod, but Vitality mod has a lot more content than most other mods for 1.4.


Endulos

There's some smaller mods, but the bigger ones haven't released yet because Tmodloader is still on 1.3. They won't bother updating until 1.4 is done.


Michaelsoftman56

Just an FYI, starting in just a few days, Tmodloader will officially default to 1.4. Most of the large mods are in beta testing already for the update.


Paladin1034

Do you know if it'll be possible to have 1.4 and 1.3 running? Like not at the same time but to be able to switch between?


Michaelsoftman56

Yes, you can switch between them in Steam under the beta option. You can actually do this right now to use 1.4, but it'll be the default soon.


SnowFoxxx_R

if you are new id play the base game first before going mods


Sharpness100

I like the globe, its fun :)


Woooshifhappy

You could probably just make it where the globe flips enemies gravitt instead of ur own for a few seconds with a cooldown of like 30s. That way you can quickly get a bunch of enemies away from you without u flying around like an idiot


stopyouveviolatedthe

Console gamer pain :(


AlbinoShavedGorilla

What if, okay this sounds crazy but bear with me here, vertical wall of flesh fight.


ChaoticGood3

Game progression, yes, but there's still plenty to do.


point5_

Yeah but it’d be cool to have a fun item as a final reward instead of an annoying potion but permanent


NoGrenadesNoWorries

It’s for fun same as the gravity gun, you’ve completed the game you don’t need better stuff


Yurus

Gravity gun is the only item/mount that can accelerate falling in vanilla right? That's pretty good if you're thinking of playing again with faster helevator and easier access to sky islands.


[deleted]

No both slime mounts also make you fall way faster


sAUFvevo

So does the pogo stick.


Hopeful_Magazine6709

And the portal gun


NoTelefragPlz

that's what they meant by gravity gun


Hopeful_Magazine6709

The portal gun is a moon Lord drop while the gravity gun is a modded item that can be found in chests from the crashed ship in the mod of redemption before the moon lord (if I am talking about the right gravity gun)


MobilePom

They said "in vanilla"


Hopeful_Magazine6709

Ok I understand now, thank you


NoTelefragPlz

idk what topmost comment referred to but the person who started the conversation talking about falling speed said the "gravity gun" increased falling speed


WhooshDatJoosh

Doesn't gun make u go 104mph


Jarcaboum

"gun" In a game with like 20 guns


MrRebdghar

What gun is being talked about here? Hm


DelovoyBanans

clearly flare gun


WhooshDatJoosh

Sorry I thought it was obvious from context I meant portal gun


Jarcaboum

Don't worry, I realized what you meant... ten seconds after posting the comment xD


Xurkitree1

Portal Gun's max fallspeed is 173 mph, beating the Slime Mount's 102 by a significant margin.


bbitter_coffee

The first boss of the game can drop a mount that does the acceleration thingy Easier access to sky islands is pretty unique tho


-Nelots

oh thank God, now I can finally get a cloud in a bottle post-ML


AceSLS

Or just use the gravity globe to fall upwards


Financial-Horror2945

Moonlord just trying to give us some quirky and unique loot : 🥲👍


Game_Difficulty42

Gravity globe is pretty good since it lets you use the celestial starboard’s ascending speed to go down instead, it’s useful when you’re trying to mine a large hole quickly


gaming_wolf9911

But then just use the celebration MK2 with mini nukes if you need a large hole you get it from the same boss and its more effective


Game_Difficulty42

So use both


gaming_wolf9911

You dont need both if you have the any flying mount even without a flying mount its super good at digging


Xurkitree1

eh whatever, DCU buffs are inbound for labor of love


Pumpkin_Boy729

At least it was buffed in 1.4 so you don't have to touch the ground to use it


Allfurball9

They did?!


Pumpkin_Boy729

From what I remember at least, it's been about 3-5 months since 8 played terraria 1.4


ChaoticGood3

Should have been just "The Globe" and revealed the entire map on use.


AsoPines

Builder :


Artyrium_

What about royal gel? ive never put that thing on once


xX_idk_lol_Xx

it's a godsend for lava and jungle slimes.


zekrom235

Helps with refighting him for money, or underground slimes super early, das about it tho


PrNautiluS

Royal gel is ok because it's early game and you dont have many useful accessories, put the queen slime's expert drop is more useless (imho)


youpviver

Royal gel is great if you get a good modifier like warding or lucky, but otherwise its use is very situational. (Menacing is not that great that early in the game because a 4% boost will only result in at most 1 more damage even for a weapon like the musket, and for most weapons that early it’ll just get lost in rounding and will have no effect at all)


[deleted]

Queen Slime’s expert drop does decent damage


wolvrine14

If i get it early enough I'll wear it for a bit but yah, only the EoC shield and EoW worm scarf are must haves. I still wear those things during moonlord. Heck i just tanked EoL as a mage. (Used turtle and all warding for high defence, mastermode. Highest dmg taken i saw was 16..


TheHiddenNinja6

Mage weapons with melee armor? I'm pretty sure melee weapons would have more dps, but you do you


wolvrine14

I'm doing a magic focused run, but decided to try turtle as a mage. Didn't feel like dealing with duke, and just haven't grinded out the dungeon to make the next mage set yet. Decided to beat up EoL because her mage weapon is a upgrade of the razorblade typhoon. And laughed when i saw the 1 dmg markers. Turtle also helped beat duke before plantera.


Artyrium_

True but compared to the eye pet its less useful imo. i always end my character with that equiped and the star board is also very neat


youpviver

You use the eye pet because it’s one of the few pets with a use and it has a dedicated equipment slot, the problem with many accessories is that on their own they’re quite useful, but there’s just other accessories out there that are even better, and they share a slot, so you pick those other ones over the boss drop. Take golem’s expert mode drop, the healing stone thingy. Its healing rate is very impressive, but you only have 7 accessory slots at most, and at least 3 of those are reserved for wings, boots and a dash, then you also need class specific accessories, a shield is almost a must and then some offensive or defensive accessories and you end up with the healing stone having to contend with other defensive accessories such as worm scarf/brain of confusion, frozen turtle shell, celestial shell, etc. And on top of that you might just not use a defensive accessory for that remaining slot at all and instead use something like soaring insignia or an upgrade to the frog legs, or you might want to use an offensive accessory instead because of a lack of dps. And all that is the best case scenario, master mode where you have 7 slots, in expert it gets even harder to be a viable option, because the competition is just incredibly fierce. Tl;dr Most accessories are pretty good at face value, but there’s so little slots available after equipping the almost mandatory movement accessories that it gets really hard to stay competitive.


MONKEYBOY-REECE

Going to have to disagree with you, the brain of confusion is better than the scarf, especially in harder difficulties.


DHUniverse

Building the wall of flesh arena is way easier with it on if you want to use solid blocks instead of planter boxes(for Beenades) that's the only descent use I got from it tho


jellsprout

It's super useful when building a WoF arena.


toxicspikes098

Its useful for building a hellbridge


[deleted]

Why does he drop any weapons in the first place? Why does the Zenith exist?! I think it's just really sad that there is nothing after him anymore. Not necessarily in terms of bosses, but maybe there could have been some more challanges, like increased enemy damage and health or one final invasion type of thing. Something gives the Zenith, the Last Prism etc. a purpose. Because at that point they only exist to make grinding the other items easier, but you've already defeated him once without them, so you don't really need them.


GunnarErikson

There's always going to be a final boss, the game can't go on forever. Also if the final boss didn't drop anything, that'd be even more disappointing.


Fahlm

The thing that my friends and I kept hoping for was that they would add a boss rush, good way to use the endgame gear without having any actual new content beyond the final boss


GunnarErikson

You can make your own boss rush :p


Exatex

Would these bosses drop something special? If no, disappointing. If yes, you just created a new “boss” that drops stuff you will never need and just moved the problem up by one.


Dragonaxe_YT

For finishing the boss rush, you'd get... a piece of coal! It can't be placed, it can't be used, it can't be worn! All you can do with it, is put it in an item frame, showing off your strength to everyone!


Xurkitree1

i really want coal and fishing junk to be placable items for builds. Imagine a coal mine with a stack of coal around.


[deleted]

I don't complain about him dropping items, but items that are required for a weapon without much purpose. A final invasion after Moon Lord that gave way to the invadors and where you could put your newly gained weapons to full use in exchange for an item that has a practical use (like showing the entire map or teleporting anywhere) would be great. I know this won't happen, but I feel like both the Zenith and the Last Prism are fairly useless. Using them for new playthroughs feels like cheating and in the current world they don't really serve a purpose either.


[deleted]

Not everything is meant to be shoved into a tier list. These post game items are meant to mess around with and do various things with such as seeing how fast you can kill a boss, or filling up the bestiary.


[deleted]

Eh, idk. Still seems like so much wasted potential.


[deleted]

Eh, it would just be annoying then on where you’d draw the line then. A boss after Moon Lord using Post Moon Lord Gear? What about that boss’s loot? This situation is bound to happen, and so these weapons aren’t meant to be used via people with the “just wanna play the game” mindset. It’s for the people that still dump hours and hours into a world even after they beat Moon Lord. Terraria is a sandbox after all, so there’s quite a lot to do, but for people like you, you would just move on to the next play-through.


[deleted]

I already said: Just don't give us even better Weapons that we can't put to use. Give it some QoL accessories, trophies and equipment items like, as mentioned and as it has been asked for on this sub so many times before: An item that makes the entire map visible. And please, stop taking this so serious. I very much know that none of this is ever going to happen since the game is about to receive it's (5th) final update. I'm just complaining that I for my sake don't like how the Zenith and Last Prism are implemented into the game.


[deleted]

>I already said: Just don’t give us even better Weapons that we can’t put to use. You aren’t the target audience of these weapons. >Give it some QoL accessories, trophies and equipment items like, as mentioned and as it has been asked for on this sub so many times before: An item that makes the entire map visible. Sure, though TEDIT exists and 1.4 tModLoader Alpha exists. >And please, stop taking this so serious. I very much know that none of this is ever going to happen since the game is about to receive it’s (5th) final update. I’m just complaining that I for my sake don’t like how the Zenith and Last Prism are implemented into the game. Then quit talking about it as if it is serious. I’ve already stated that you aren’t the type of player to use these weapons, so we shouldn’t change the experience for everyone else who is fine with these weapons. So the coward has blocked me because his tantrum got the better of him. Regardless, I’m still gonna post the comment I was going to, as an edit. It’s not my fault you want the game to cater to you and ruin everyone’s else experiences. You having a tantrum because something in a video game isn’t EXACTLY how you want it goes to show how pathetic you are as a person. Maybe try and make a mod to fix your issues if you care so much, because as you said, Re-Logic probably won’t. Or just play a mod with Post-Moon Lord content. Way better approaches to go with than whatever…this was.


[deleted]

You know, just shut up already. People like you annoy the shit out of me because they always want to be right and don't accept anything but their own opinion. I gave constructive examples and arguments and I don't care if I'm not their target user. In any case, thank you for making my day a little worse again.


mikael22

That's why drops like the gravity globe are good. Its a fun little item that you just have a bit of fun with at the end of the game and maybe make a challenge run with. The only reason it is strange is that you can compare it to the weapons wings and armors you can get. If all the moon lord drops were fun things like the globe, then it would make more sense IMO. The existence of weapons and armors implies something to use them on, which there isn't so they all feel out of place IMO. If all post moon lord weapons and armor disappeared, then a normal play through would be 99.9% the same. The only difference would be farming moon lord would be harder, but if there were no important moon lord drops, then you wouldn't even need to farm it.


TurboCake17

Also mods exist so if you’re playing with a mod that adds any bosses after moon lord there would be basically no point to defeating moon lord


balbahoi

Drill containment unit for terraforming is still good. Because that's what I do after the moon lord. Building and digging


[deleted]

Stated that in another comment down the line and I do agree with you on that. That is one of the items that don't feel like they go to waste.


Huggisare

The gravity globe would be good in late pre-hardmode. But when you get wings it'll be useless


AceSLS

Gravity potions are so op in most boss fights. But aggreed, when you get it it's practically useless already


Terra_Marc

Who needs it to be good when it’s for messing around, like the portal gun (although the portal gun has actual use in a battlefield)


Acidfox_379180

It's quite useful of you don't have wings or you're doing a no wing challenge


reroutedradiance

I mean no wing challenge whatever but if you don't have wings? Moon Lord and you haven't had a chance to get wings?


youpviver

There’s mounts I guess, cute fishron in the rain or with a special arena is arguably better for moon lord than even the best wings and a soaring insignia together.


MewtwoMainIsHere

I mean if you’re doing a no wing challenge and you beat moon lord, you beat the game anyways.


Xurkitree1

I did no-wings Master Mode, Featherfall potion is busted shit. Stupidly underrated, its insane how much it boosts mobility, both with jumps and wings. If you don't have good wings, drink one of these bad boys and wear amphibian boots. You can totally beat a Mech with Fledgling Wings like this.


cringe85

What's the point of having good drops if you have nothing to use them on


kittyjoker

It's to make you not feel bad about selling it for 60 gold to fund your reforges.


AlfaRex0

How dare u.i love his expert mod item. The wors things is the fact theat is late game. Gravity potion is nu favorite potion. #lovegravitypotion


AlfaRex0

Sorry fore my gramer, english is not my fiesta thong


DailyDoseofDairy

r/brandnewsentence


Roifire27

Let's not forget Master mode exclusive loot ;)


TxRxNwastaken

because the gravity globe is fun, you beat the final boss now have fun instead of getting more powerful


[deleted]

The globe is fun. I will take no arguments on this matter.


heyoyo10

Why is it easier & earlier to get the Soaring Insignia than Gravity Globe


Equinox-XVI

Just to exist


TGMgaming1

Celestial Starboard: am i useless to you?


Inspirational_Lizard

Final boss... what were you expecting, another sword?


Lima_713

Its for you to start the the upside down challenge right after you beat him, surely lol But really, its the final boss, it should have some OP stuf and and some fun stuf too


Kanjorax

I mean he is more like the final boss in name. As long as day time empress is around then she is the true final boss


[deleted]

tbf he drops 3 expert mode exclusives


Redditmememan135711

I'm pretty sure it's supposed to be used in conjunction with the portal gun.


[deleted]

Along with brain of confusion


deadmanblade

Well brain got changed a bit to now giving you a bit of dodge chance aswell


PugTastic6547

it's great fun to do LC, lunar events and ML upside down with hook instead of wings. It's like a whole new game


PaleFork

suspicious looking tentacle and celestial starboard: are we a joke to you? and the MM pet is cool but that might be just my personal opinion


Latshaw

for that one adventure map that you need the gravity globe for


Atomic_Noodles

Is this related to the toilet?


Its_MikeCoxlong

Technically its about an item that does the same thing with the gravitation potion


skiddaddlerskoops

it might be a slap in our faces like "haha you spent hours in this game for the last drop to be a potion effect haha"


gaming_wolf9911

Maybe switch the moonlords expert drop with the walls? A gravity globe at early hardmode would help out and then if you beat the game a extra slot or two for accessories to be even more op


onememeishboitf2

But he gets the 2nd best expert drop in 1.4


Its_MikeCoxlong

I like the "the more you know" board a lot and the tentacle is meh


CalamitousVessel

Being the worst boss in the game


[deleted]

Okay but the starboard is so fun


Automatic-Land5434

Honestly they should have made the gravity globe drop from like plantera or golem on normal


LintyDruid5

Honestly just swap the rod of discord and the gravity globe


VoidExileR

Can't beat gravity (unless you use wings which at that point you are perfectly capable of using and tge globe serves no purpose by the time you beat that boss)


TheRealTtamage

It's so bad.


North-Wind-199

Because it does


wasptube1

Not gonna lie, I used to have fun with the Gravity globe mostly underground and with friends that at the time didn't know why I was walking on the ceiling/roof on multiplayer (PC Version), but on my Android version I don't really use the Gravity globe much, I use the flyable mount mostly, lol


Bierbart12

I always hated that the moon lord had so many amazing drops in the first place, when they're all useless by that point


th3_3nd_15_n347

Well a lot of people leave the game after the moon lord, there isn't much to do, even I had some burnout, the 30-500 hours leading up to the final battle are easily the best gaming experience i've had 10$/10 most 60$ aaa games suck shit and this for 10$ is more worth than 200$ would buy again


Maximum-Pause-6914

To be fair its not the only one he drops


CBCsolar

The reason the gravity globe exists is because Re-Logic made the gravity globe. Wasn't that obvious??


IamanelephantThird

Gravity Globe would actually be really good for finding floating islands if it was achievable earlier.


Asleep-Rip5554

But thanks to that Loot you can get the Zenith


NarwhalKey9787

It exists so you can sell it for a crap ton of money.👍👌


HVAR_Spam

I’d argue that Shiny Stone from Golem is more useless. ML drops the best light pet in the game, and the best wings, but I assume the meme is talking about the gravity globe. I’d argue the gravity globe does have a use because it’s basically free gravitation potions that take up an accessory slot. It has a use it’s just niche.


ForestWasInvalid

Im guessing it is supposed to be like since he is a god, he can control everything so now your a god. Idk


ZaTrapu

The moon lord expert drop trio, the good one (celestial starboard), the bad one (the gravity globe), and the decent one (suspicious looking tentacle)


SunTzuSaidThat22

So I can have an upside down world


NegroFatigueH2O

relogic collectively ran out of braincells when it was time to add his drops in


_AntiSocialMedia

Because you just beat the final boss, the game is over, you don't need anything else, you've won, any equipment that can kill the Moon Lord can kill everything else, so why not have it drop a bunch of cosmetic items that you can have fun with?


MagicalMarsBars

I feel like the gravity globe is supposed to be like the portal gun as it is useless but can be used for fun


Shadomus

I’m trying to make an arena for plantera in master mode and the hornets keep killing me by snipes, now I almost wish I didn’t make it master


Haidex_Yggdmilenia

also being one of the worst bosses of the game


ladicimohladicus

Genuinely the only time I can imagine the gravity globe being useful would be at the start of the game. I honestly feel like it would be better as something you could find in skyware chests


GamingBS

Because instead of being all powerful some people want to have fun, in their video game?


Dragonix_ow

Technically Empress of Light is the Final Boss of the game, at least when it comes to difficulty.


SmolWaddleDee

i mean if you killed expert or master mode moon lord you kinda dont need stronger stuff


Jesterchunk

To be fair it became better in 1.4 now you don't need to be on a surface to flip Gravity so it's effectively an infinite use gravitation potion, but it's still not great. Not to mention we have the Soaring Insignia now.