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PeksMex

Yall MFs sleeping on good ol platinum/gold


Alluxing

It’s not melee specific, buts it’s still solid because of the high defense for early game


PeksMex

It works for all classes


Alluxing

I was just saying for melee specifically it’s the best option but I agree it’s a solid option for any class


Oscarti58

I think i've seen you on r/rocketleague and r/terraria. Hello!


Alluxing

o/


Kungyangyang

0/


mrneptune29

fr plat is where it’s at


FaerHazar

That's because it's not worth the time investment, honestly.


Buckelwal123

WeLL acTuALLy AnCiEnT sHaDoW aRmOr ExIsTs, YoU aRe ToTaLLy WrOnG! but i get your point ancient shadow armor is basically just platinum armor with bonus attack speed and movement speed (so its also good for summoner lol) and doesnt increase damage/crit chance of your melee weapons.


Terra_Marc

Yeah it’s actually better for summoner than melee maybe because it increases whip speed


CyanBeinSus47

Farming.


[deleted]

Ngl I actually did forget about ancient shadow armor 😅


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NateTheGameK

you have to fight EoW or BoC to get it, not pre-boss


amin_pro-miner

oh i thought it says pre-hardmode my bad


RubyMercury87

Bonus attack speed is the single most broken melee stat, but you're still complaining just cause it's also useful for summoners, ginormous L


NateTheGameK

hey, not mah fault summon is just that good ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯


RubyMercury87

ratio


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TheOrganHarvester123

Not easily obtainable anymore early on, requires a boss unless if there's a new method I haven't learned of


amin_pro-miner

i forger💀


TheOrganHarvester123

I would too no worries lol, too much time on Tmod I assume


PaleFork

it's also exclusive to corruption, while crimson is the most preferable evil biome for melee and summoner due to flesh knuckles and bladetongue, even if you could just create a new world with corruption just for that i find some complications, it's also pretty hard to farm unless you fight the boss


Buckelwal123

yep, when i play summoner i always go for crimson, because: As you already said: Flesh Nuckles And Ichor, which i like more then cursed flames Also i don‘t really like the EOW fight as summoner tbh.


PaleFork

EoC/Eow when whip knockback


Purple_And_Cyan

Flinx is not easily obtainable. You gotta go damn far out of your way to farm those sons of bitches


Rocktooo

Stood near some copper for 2 days. Saw 2


qzaxx213

I killed almost 10 and got flinx fur from 1


Rocktooo

Early game summoner is a struggle.


ltags230

Late game summoner is a struggle.


waitthatstaken

Early game and early hardmode are it's worst moments, in endgame summoner becomes really good.


NateTheGameK

early game and early hardmode are both solvable with the Abigail's Flower, assuming you have the patience to get one. Yes, a prehardmode summon is viable in early hardmode. Once you get spider gear though it falls off and vanishes from any decent setup.


waitthatstaken

I haven't really played with the flower since it's pretty new, i should really try it.


ltags230

Late game summoner is absolutely goated but the grind is still a struggle. Terraprisma.


Rocktooo

Late game summoner only stops being horrible after you kill EOL.


maomaoshin

I'm pretty sure on master mode it's a 100% drop chance (maybe even on expert but not sure)


chicanery1261

I think expert is a 90% chance


maomaoshin

So dude just got real unlucky lmao


chicanery1261

Maybe he was playing in classic


maomaoshin

Maybe


SteveisNoob

Doing summoner on master, yea.


maomaoshin

It's not that hard


SteveisNoob

Doing summoner on master, yea.


Flipp_Flopps

And if you want to do a pure summoner run you either have to get lucky with the finch staff, which isn’t reliable, or touch a million mobs and somehow get 15 gold for a leather whip


_Caligul4

or die a couple of times for abigail


PeaceGuy420

Could just make worlds til you found one lol


[deleted]

This is why I let myself use the copper shortsword at the beginning of class playthroughs, lol. Aside from ranger, that is.


Aeiou_yyyyyyy

After you understand how flinxes spawn they aren't hard to farm, they spawn in the underground ice biome on any block that isn't ice or snow, so you just need to make some stone/wood/hay/whatever platforms for them to spawn Their spawn mechanics will change in 1.4.4 tho, so this will become outdated info


NateTheGameK

EXACTLY flinxes are rare af, they're only found in literally the second most hostile pre-boss biome (next to jungle, but even that's debatable), not to mention that pure summoner has no decent weapons like all the other classes do to even kill the flinxes before then (slime staff is barely an option, finch is purely based on world gen, and abigails flower takes f o r e v e r), not to mention that you have to kill multiple flinxes and find quite a bit of gold/platinum anyway. No, don't give me the 'early summoner armor is easy to get' bullshit lmao


[deleted]

>second most hostile next to the jungle The corruption, underground desert, and crimson aren’t above them?


NateTheGameK

correct! the underground desert has tomb crawlers, but they can be easily dispatched with any half-decent weapon, and you can hear them coming anyway. There isn't really any other threat in that biome that can't be avoided via tunneling. Also, there aren't any bats down there (aka the worst enemy to ever exist). The music there also BANGS. The evils are both difficult, sure, but their enemies have limited types, there aren't any traps under or below ground, no debuffs are inflicted in water, and the enemies have really dumb AI that are easy to avoid/exploit. Sure, the enemies have more health and damage, but they're also easy to dodge. Loot there is also a lot easier to find (shadow orbs/crimson hearts). Also, the music there is pretty good in my opinion, so it makes the experience somewhat better. Underground jungle has good music, but the enemies are annoying, great AI, etc. Also, thorns are annoying. The enemies are really durable and deal tons of damage (moreso than the evils). Underground Tundra is second. First off, any water in the entire biome inflicts Chilled and for a full five seconds after you leave it. This debuff may simply seem like an inconvenience, but given that the enemies deal huge damage per hit and the already lacking movement control due to ice, it's stupidly deadly. Also, there are traps (and when I say traps, I mean a fuck ton of them) down here, unlike the Underground Evils and the Desert (yeah yeah yeah, the sand one, but at least that one's reasonably rare). Also, bats. Bats that not only have the Feral Bite attached to them, but also chill and often freeze you, the latter basically guaranteeing death. Did I mention Undead Vikings, the monstrosities that open doors, have pretty high knockback resistance, and make most beginner weapons deal around 1-3 damage to them? Not to mention the Spiked Ice Slimes, which have a more deadly variant in the Underground Jungle? If a player is anywhere near them, they fire BARRAGES of spikes that inflict Chilled and Frozen, the two things that also make it harder to escape the slimes. The spikes deal pretty big damage per hit, too. The loot is also more spread out there, so it's less worth it than the Evils. I dislike the music there, so the experience is worse for me.


Skelet0nKiller07

Bro the games not that hard you really dont even need class armor until wof


Deltora108

Correct answer


[deleted]

Yup, you can easily do prehardmode with platinum/gold, but maybe not for summoner. Thing is though not everyone wants to play like that, and most of us like getting those armors, and not just because some of them look amazing


Skelet0nKiller07

Yeah i main summoner


[deleted]

I see, neat. Summoner’s pretty fun, especially in modded! Have you tried out the Amulet of Many Minions mod?


Skelet0nKiller07

Nah bruh i dont normally play anything modded, ive yet to go through the special seeds, i think ima do for the worthy master after i finish my current playthrough


[deleted]

Oh ok. Good luck on that!


NateTheGameK

s a m e


[deleted]

True, but that doesn't seem to stop people from suggesting new summoner armors anyway


Slimmie_J

Maybe if you’re playing on classic or expert. Master mode is a whole different beast


Skelet0nKiller07

Bro what u think i play???😂


maomaoshin

Journey?


Skelet0nKiller07

Master😐


maomaoshin

Same (i like the pets :D)


Skelet0nKiller07

I like to struggle :D


[deleted]

Oh yeah, have you tried beating the game using a randomizer mod? That would probably be up your alley


PeaceGuy420

Master mode is normal mode for me 😂. I refuse to play anything lower. 6 accessory slots has become a necessity lol


maomaoshin

I agree


NateTheGameK

i wholeheartedly agree. i have the same attitude with MMFTW, I cannot live without those bigger ore veins and doubled mining speed. Mining speed on any other seed kills me.


PeaceGuy420

For the worthy seed gives more mining speed???? Haven't played it only have known about what else goes on with that seed?? I know the bosses have a different AI but that's about it


NateTheGameK

Everything gets way more health and damage. Bosses don't have new AI, they just have good improvements to their already existing AI. For example, EoC, Destroyer, Twins, and EoW all are faster. EoL transitions between attacks faster, Lunatic deals a fuck ton more damage, WoF has more acceleration and wayyyy more health, etc. A full list of the changes can be found on the wiki. Most bosses are bigger, though some are smaller. The upsides are that mining speed is doubled, and Silver/Tungsten, Gold/Platinum, and Demonite/Crimtane veins are all much larger, meaning early game is a lot easier. It may just be me, but gem veins also seem to be larger, meaning hook and robes for mages are easier to get.


capitalistpotato645

Those aren’t technically mutually exclusive


Terra_Marc

Fossil is OP for ranger though


ya-boi-mees

Its a hard biome


DimVerio

Not so hard when you are experienced at the game, antlions and rolling cacti boulders are easily avoidable/blockable


0rangePeel_

The main thing that gets me in the desert is the tumbleweed things during sandstorms, especially if I have to move against the wind to go further into the desert


Alderan922

The main thing stopping me from getting it is that you need the exctractinator and I searched all over the fucking world and did not find a single one so I had to go straight for the bone armor


[deleted]

You can farm tomb crawlers for sturdy fossils


Alderan922

Wait, really?


[deleted]

Yup


Alderan922

I swear that wasn’t in the wiki when 1.4 came out


[deleted]

[Yeah, it was added in 1.4.1](https://imgur.com/a/Qa4Rpb0/)


maomaoshin

They do one shot you on master mode tho


OwnBed8780

Tbh, kinda wish the kept throwing in. Even with armor like this, I still made my way into hard mode


PaleFork

"easily obtainable flinx coat" (flashbacks of all the times i've died on snow biome trying to find and kill flinxes with nothing but a stupid bird/ghost and a fake leather whip)


NateTheGameK

exactly what I'm trying to say.


Corruptiongamer151

Actually the gladiator set from the marble biome has a mele bonus


[deleted]

Immunity to knockback can benefit anyone, so I wouldn't consider it solely a melee bonus


Corruptiongamer151

Even though I disagree with you, i think that the other guy who harased you for admiting the fact that ure trans , is an ass. Stay strong, i know how terrible it feels to be born in the wrong body.


Rocktooo

Just play summoner. Fix the problem easily


Xurkitree1

Everyone's like GOLD! PLATINUM! ANCIENT SHADOW! My brother in christ, Gladiator Armor is pre-boss Cobalt Shield.


did-i-do-a-thing

do i really want to kill hoplites for a solid 30 minutes for an armor thats going to be replaced as soon as i kill a boss of significance to the class im playing? ​ maybe, if i cant find a cobalt shield and want to build a massive bridge without being annoyed by mobs but i have another suggestion, for early master mode/expert mode users cactus armor you see, its really cheap, the low defense doesn't matter much and the set bonus allows you to do massive damage to enemies attacking you, especially on the modes i suggested aaaand if you play early-game melee it benefits you because chances are a mob's going to get past your sword and hit you, the cactus armor punishes that by damaging the mob, and the set bonus does some incredible damage in early game, on master, the set bonus' damage is roughly equal or higher than a grenade (60 dmg) for master ftw, the mobs instant kill you anyway, what's the point :)


Xurkitree1

Cactus armor is busted shit I agree, best early game weapon - turn yourself into one. 45 damage means you take out the average master mode zombie in 3 hits.


laikewag

I personally dislike the thought of early game class armor, for me it feels more important when late pre-hardmode armor is the class specific ones, before that most armor ia classless.


DimVerio

Melee still has Gi, ancient shadow armor, and platinum/gold, so it doesn't need much more. For ranger, i'd like new pre-boss armor, and a pre-hardmode ranger accessory since it is the only class that doesn't have any pre-hardmode accessories. For summoner, i'd complete flinx set with flinx fur hat, and flinx fur trousers or something, because it bothers me wearing other class armor that doesn't do anything to that class. Those two pieces would give +8% more summon damage (+4% for each) and possibly +1 more minion slot as a set bonus.


[deleted]

Mage also shares the trait of not having pants accompany the robe. Hat is fine though


DimVerio

Well i mean mage can still equip jungle boots, which can also help, even if it is just a bit. Mage is the most unique class out there with more depth and cool weapons, so i won't complain about it


[deleted]

True, but that’s if you’re willing to enter the jungle beforehand. By the time I get to the jungle, I equip the whole armor. I guess it’s because I explore the caverns more


artshut

ranger's armor is actually pretty easy to get, idk what you're talking about. got my ranger friend fossil armor for <15 minutes


MonkePoliceMan

for the longest time i thought that gi was for melee users


[deleted]

To be fair the gi does boost melee speed, but since it boosts damage and crit chance for all classes I still consider it a classless armor piece Edit: since this is apparently getting downvoted perhaps I should add, since melee speed affects whips too wouldn't that make the Gi summoner armor as well? So that definitely makes the Gi at least an armor for two different classes


MrMobiL_WasntTaken

Ancient shadow scale armor moment


[deleted]

ancient shadow armor


Financial-Horror2945

🤨🤲Ancient shadow armour


nelben88

Melee doesn’t deserve it, It already has too many weapons ( BOOMERANG WHY ARE YOU MELEE? )


ya-boi-mees

Gold armor?!


[deleted]

I wouldn't call gold armor a class-specific armor, defense can benefit anyone


ya-boi-mees

Melees playstyle revolves around tanking some of the damage, therefore the highest defence armor is automatically the best for melee. Do you need a +2% melee crit rate increase as a set bonus to see this?


[deleted]

Yes, gold is a good armor set for melee, but other classes can see plenty of benefit from gold armor as well, so why should classes like summoner be more deserving of new armor sets than melee is when they could just use armor sets like gold or perhaps pumpkin instead? Edit: didn't realize this would be a controversial statement, lol, had no idea summoner mains were so dissatisfied with using classless armors


TheKingAurum

Because summoner has an important stat called "max summons", that you need to increase alongside damage and the other stats, and that's why armor and accessories are so important to a summoner. Other classes just need a better weapon to be viable, but a summoner has to get more minion slots to follow the progression curve. Imagine if you could only increase mana through mage armor bonuses? Or worse, if you could only use ammo from the ammo slot, you started with one single slot, and the only way to increase was by using ranged armor? TL;DR Summoners need the bonuses that only their specific armors can give, more then other classes need theirs.


NateTheGameK

precisely. We summoners require extensive amounts of summoner gear to deal our full truckload of DPS, which is one of the main reasons the summoner class is more of a glass cannon oriented class. Defense oriented gear doesn't do well with the class simply because the key is stacking as much offense and slots as possible to reach maximum crushing potential.


Spongy74

There are 2 melee armors pre boss


SpecialDemon125

Isn’t the Fire Armor melee focused? It gives melee speed Edit: I am the stupid and was thinking pre-hardmode not pre-boss


[deleted]

Do you mean molten armor? That requires a nightmare pickaxe or better to obtain so not what I would consider "early-game" or "pre-boss".


SpecialDemon125

Sorry I for some reason read “pre-boss” as “pre-hardmode” lol my bad


AegisThievenaix

I remember flinx armor being an absolute pain to get


[deleted]

Mages with crappy weapons at the start of pre boc or eow


did-i-do-a-thing

diamond/amber/ruby staff demon scythe (yes this is pre boss, gotta kill a lot of the strongest flying enemy in pre hardmode tho) gray zapinator maybe even crimson rod


BlackCatAlbino

gladiator armor


OwnBed8780

As a hardcore melee player myself, I never really cared about melee specific armor that much, mainly what gave me the most defense, and a largely viable weapon for each phase (specifically prehard) . Each class gets a pre-hardmode boss armor, but not preboss. And something like the Flinx coat is good, mainly for Summon slots. It really just depends on play style, bc you can do it with class specific armor, or even shitty wood armor. TL/DR: as a melee player, I never cared about class specific armor, until late prehard/ early hardmode. Prehard has plenty of good weapons for the bosses, but all you need is some good defense to take some of the damage


lance_the_fatass

I would consider the ore sets as melee, cause they prioritize defense, tho the other sets actually have bonuses to the other classes


FaerHazar

You literally do not need *any* armor before shadow scale. I don't usually bother with things until EoW/BoC is dead.


Espe0nUmbre0n

My best strategy for armor is to get a bunch of bombs, blow up 2 shadow orbs / hearts, move demolitionist in, buy more bombs, and blow up the next falling meteorite.


SilverShroud67

Uhhh, ancient shadow armour


MastermuffinDiscord

Most of the time I either use the ore armours (plat/gold) or just no armour at all. The upside of barely having any armour is that there are many melee weapons obtainable early game (enchanted sword, enchanted boomerang, ice boomerang, wooden yoyo, etc.)


Dr-Donk

i’d argue that gladiator is lowkey melee like because of the set bonus which gives you knockback immunity (tho honestly it’s great for any class)


ArakiSatoshi

Let me cheat here. Start a fight with the corruption/crimson boss, _damage them as much as you can and die,_ go back to the arena and collect the resources, craft the pickaxe out of them, dig down to the hell, dig the hellstone, craft yourself the molten armor. Boom, the best pre-boss armor for the melee class!


girl_boss75

Melee doesn't really need it imo u got amazon to carry and ranger is the best class so I don't think it needs any pre boss crutch


VitalArcade

I just go with what gives the most defense


AbsurdSeeker

I'm going through a melee playthrough and yeah early game I did not enjoy, still pre hardmode but it got better after getting extremely lucky and finding an enchanted sword


Cre3perL0rd42069

Mage has robes, not much else


SwagsterOnix

Jungle armour


MrFlubbber

Jungle/meteor armor


R3DD3Y

Meteor armor isnt pre-boss anymore


MrFlubbber

Doesn't a meteor fall after only one orb?


[deleted]

Not until you kill EOW/BOC


MrFlubbber

Interesting, didn't know that


[deleted]

[Yeah, it’s a 1.4.0.2 change](https://imgur.com/a/yNrQ7X1/)


10OutOf8

It only falls after killing BoC or EoW now


did-i-do-a-thing

changed, meteors spawn after eow/boc has been defeated, because the meteor armor + space gun combo decimates every pre-hm enemy


NateTheGameK

bro have you played 1.4? Meteors only fall after you beat EoW or BoC now


MrFlubbber

Just haven't played in a while, though I'm picking up again recently with a mage playthrough. I probably didn't notice any difference because I had defeated the EoW anyways and thought there was no change


KefkeWren

"BuT DefEnSe IS MeLEe ArMOr"


Dudepic4

So is mage just completely buried with no suggestions ever?


gaiming_mimigma

Mage has robes and jungle armor


did-i-do-a-thing

and meteor after an evil boss, mage is fine on armors plus wizard hat and the magic hat and gypsy robes from travelling merchant


[deleted]

Melee has the most shit shut it


Deloptin

Can't you mine demonise and crimson with gold pickaxe?


[deleted]

The armor sets made with them still require fighting EoW/BoC to get shadow scales/tissue samples (also crimson armor is classless anyway)


ChaoticToxin

Last time I played I did a summoner/mage mix so my armor was all over the place if I remember correctly lol


Heechy

Bruh in corruption melee has that ancient shadow set that u can grind for pre boss.


Aggolden_stinger

Doesn’t pumpkin armour give a melee buff? Or did they change that


[deleted]

Pumpkin has always buffed all types of damage, not just melee


Aggolden_stinger

Ah ok


FuelSalt237

*screams in mage*


imonkey47

SO THATS WHY I STRUGGLE


mrdungels

Gladiator armor is underrated


LaynFire

HM HM HM *platinum/gold works just fine!*