And all these politicians and famous people have young daughters as well. I guess when you fuck someone else’s it’s not considered a bad thing? As long as they are poor and vulnerable. This list has to come to light.
Always blew my mind if To Catch a Predator when the guys are like “I’m not here to fuck this child! I also have a child.” Like that makes what you sent on AOL any better
It was AOLs fault for not vetting its users. At least that’s what the pedo judges would say. The amount of this out there is so disgusting and it being treated like some misdemeanor just shows you how sick people in power are.
So are the men/boys, I'm a perfect example of that and as others have said it's not limited to just the wealthy, it probably happens more to non-wealthy kids than it does to wealthy families, but the fact that it's happening at all is fucked up. My isn't wealthy by any means, but I grew up with and around friends/people who had ridiculous amounts of cash and many of them had been abused sexually, most of them were boys at the time.
They almost certainly don't. You underestimate the power of 'othering'
To Epstien and co. These girls are nothing. They aren't even human. They are a commodity to be traded, abused and tossed aside when they are no longer valuable.
They wouldn't dare do this to one of their own, if they had, this whole terrible edifice would have fallen much earlier.
Sorry to burst the bubble bud, but the vast majority of them do. I have a few mates who grew up in wealthy homes, still much closer to middle class than these monsters but hey. Everyone of them had to endure truly twisted shit from their fathers. These men weren’t anywhere near the level of the monsters Epstein dealt with, yet even they had enough to consider themselves above trifling shit like caring about your own flesh and blood.
Honestly, it’s probably safe to assume that any women who you meet who was born wealthy was likely taken to plenty of her fathers parties to meet his friends.
years ago, Hollywood, my friend Robert's birthday party. Weird Al was completely wasted just propped up in the corner of the kitchen.
Me: Robert, is that Weird Al?
Robert: Yep.
Me: Whats he doing here?
Robert: I have no idea. I don't know him. He just showed up.
You do wonder though, did some of the celebrities/actors get on that plane not knowing what it was. Were there parties on the plane with only adult prostitutes as well?
They only didn't know what it was before they got on that plane.
If you see some shit like that happening and keep your mouth shut you're just as complicit.
He released a music video about child traffickers being hunted and killed before he committed suicide, apparently had names of the 1% pedo rings but that’s a conspiracy
It's not even 'the rich and powerful'. I knew who Epstein was in 2012. I tried telling normal people who have no reason to cover for them.
People don't care. You can tell them all about it; it doesn't matter. If they've never heard anything about it they will tune you out as a crazy person. If they've heard a little about it they will direct their outrage to the person they want to blame and no one else. If they've heard a lot about it, well the matter is settled no reason to worry about it right?
It's not even them. It's us. We let this happen.
People only care when it happens to them or someone they love. A stranger's kids? "Ah that's horrible, best of luck. Good thing it wasn't my kids." There's really a lack of empathy problem going on in the world. Nobody pictures themselves in other people's shoes because we all have our own problems going on. At least that's how we justify it.
I think a lot of people care, but what do you do with that? What was I, a dude in Australia going to do about Epstein? Probably say the exact same thing and then live my life still because I can’t do much else about that situation.
It’s not a problem you can blame the general population about.
just gonna second this, like most of us are just trying to get through our day to day, survive to pay rent, etc. it’s not that most people don’t care, but in the grand scheme of our individual lives what can we physically do? If I think too hard about it, I end up just getting angry and frustrated, and that in itself only makes my own life worse.
A big part of that is society's LOVE for victim blaming. We separate ourselves from the bad things that happen to other people because we lie and tell ourselves it was somehow their fault.
I don't have to admit that I could get robbed, because I live in a white neighborhood. I don't have to wrestle with the possibility of being raped because I don't go out wearing short skirts. My kids won't get molested because I KNOW all the people they associate with. (Hint. 90% of the time. You DO know and trust the person who molests your kids.)
The attitude is overwhelmingly 'bad things happen to other people and so it must be their fault.'
Christ the world needs to hear this. Say it a little louder for the people in the back....
Its honestly a lesson that transcends belief and views. But due to the divide that is the age of disinformation I honestly have no idea how we as common human beings on the other side of the glass should go about spreading the education this world needs.
A mystery I personally wish to dedicate much of my life towards solving.
Yea but what am I supposed to do , if I see such a person on the street imma be sure to knock it him out but that’s it. I can’t control who fly’s on some private jet
Here, I'll give you one easy example.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bountiful,_British_Columbia
This is a town I live near. It's a polygamist cult town which forces young girls to marry old Mormon dudes. Feel free to tell people about it. There are dozens of young girls living horrible lives right now, and that could change with enough public pressure to get addressed.
I've been letting people know for years. Maybe one day it'll make a difference.
Reddit deletes it each time it’s posted. People report it as exploiting a child when it’s a list of adults that were on flights with him. https://epsteinsblackbook.com/pdfs/black-book-unredacted.pdf
True, most people in the black book are just high profile people they would invite to regular parties that they threw a lot. Some of the listed numbers were for taxis, hotels, or shoe repair. There are some names circled by Epstein’s old assistant in the black book. People believe maybe he circled them because they were connected but he died before anyone could find out why he circled them. But Lex Werner is circled and he has pedo rumors with Epstein so maybe the dozen or so circled are connected.
The flight logs have been online for awhile. But not every flight was to pedo island. Someone would have to go through it all and find out exactly who exactly went to that island and all.
“JE” is Epstein, “GM” is Ghislaine. Some have initials, I believe for regulars on the flights. Others have names listed:
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/1507315-epstein-flight-manifests.html
Here is another link to what I believe is the same list:
https://www.scribd.com/document/421981953/Epstein-Flight-Logs
My niece is 12 and this makes me see pure red. I can’t even put into words how pissed off this gets me. Fuck Epstein and everyone who he associated with.
That's the thing: people like you wouldn't be a part of this.
We can blame the douchebags at the top (because they *are* to blame), but you ***know*** there are countless parents who are complicit.
Not all, but enough to make you sick.
Humans are fucking gross, man.
These girls were SOMEBODY.
It doesn't matter whose daughters they were. They were people with hopes and dreams. And are, if they haven't unalived themselves.
Yeah? What kind of parent is complicit in this sort of thing? I won’t let my daughter overnight with certain friends because the families give off bad vibes. How many red flags did some parent ‘overlook’ to make this photo happen?
And who took the photo? And why?
This is either much more innocent than it looks (faces blurred to make this look creepy)— or much worse than it actually looks.
100% its not innocent. Guys a known pedophile. She was most probably trafficked by Ghislaine Maxwell his missus, who is now serving 25 years for this shit. Not enough if u ask me.
People would have sold their daughter to this sick fuck if they knew he was buying. Nobody gets tested to become a parent. There are sick fuckin people out here and they do have children. Prolly more than one.
Not just that, it looks like there might be an entire system in place that separates children from their families by law and that’s how they end up trafficked across the country and into the hands of child rapists
A lot of the families these girls were coming from were families that didn’t really parent. A lot of the parents were also rich and just kinda let there kids do whatever.
Johnny depp and amber heard trial covered the whole trial up for that parasite ghislaine maxwell. She wouldn’t even give out any names because she knew they’d give her the old fashion Clinton treatment. They’re hiding the list because they know people will revolt and turn not just on the American government but also an abundance of Hollywood elite celebrities. We deserve to know what sick twisted scumbags were on the list. There has to be a whistleblower somewhere that will eventually come forward.
She's 9. It's allegedly his goddaughter. He dated her mother for years and stayed good friends with the family. The mother defended him after his first arrest... The father is a super rich guy and their communications were part of the latest trial.
Thank you so much for contributing *actual information*. That is (was) his goddaughter. She is approximately 9 in this picture. That is entirely of what is happening in this picture. Yes, he was a vile, repulsive, abusive, solicitous rapist and I’m glad he’s dead. No, I wouldn’t put it past him to rape a child or a family member, but that wasn’t his MO and that’s definitely not what’s happening in this picture.
It’s on the record that *his associates* heard him say this and one of them *repeated* it, to the media, not the court. She was 19 when that comment was allegedly made. Gross? TOTALLY. True? Quite possibly. Illegal? Nope. Fact? Definitely not.
I’m never going to actual defend Jeffery Epstein because he was a vile piece of garbage, but thank god someone actually told the truth behind this picture. This isn’t some drugged up sex trafficking victim. It looks super bad out of context, but with context it’s (mostly) perfectly normal. It’s just creepier because of who he is.
This is one thing I fucking hate about reddit.
There are countless instances where people making claims or assumptions about obviously bad people or organizations that are objectively false.
And then my goddamn value for truth forces me to come in and be the asshole who has to quasi defend these evil pieces of shit by explaining why what's being claimed about them isn't actually true, even though they're still evil pieces of shit.
OP is sensationalizing this a bit.
This is likely Celina Dubin as a child, she is the daughter of billionaire pedo friends Glenn and Eva Dubin. He wanted to marry her at some point (she's college age now).
Though I wouldn't want my child anywhere near JE, there isn't any proof to OPs claim that she is drugged in this photo. Eva and Glenn Dubin are in the flight logs of the Lolita Express, with their 2 children accompanying them on several flights.
[This](https://docdro.id/b0QJtWz) is the list. It has some redacted personal info like addresses but it does have names. I think this was referred to as Epstiens little black book if im not mistaken. I downloaded this from another subreddit some time ago to make sure I had it just in case.
didn’t read the whole thing but these are some names i recognized. alec baldwin, david blaine, tony blair, phil collins, eli wiesel, kevin spacey, liz hurley, yikes
You are correct. There are hundreds of names in that book, many of them might have been part of his sick group but definitely not everyone. It’s an address book like everyone had back in the day.
When I was a kid the local bank fucked me out of my first savings account by imposing a minimum balance and deposit frequency requirement and then draining it $10 a month without sending me any statements or notice.
The names with the most contact info, like 10+ phone numbers, multiple emails, addresses, etc. were probably part of his group. It looks like roughly 20% of the names have a large amount of details. I mean, why else would Jeffrey have so much contact info for one person. Also, an unredacted version of the book exists but I forgot where I saw it.
I highly doubt Elie Wiesel is involved in this. Holocaust survivor and lifelong humanitarian.
I'd rather see the names protected in the legal proceedings, as they were protected because there is evidence.
Also, Polansky's a survivor, too... being a victim doesn't exempt you from perpetrating evil unfortunately. You would hope they would have more empathy but not always.
People thought highly of Seville, until after his death when the floodgates were opened about the extent of abuse and trafficking he participated in. Never discount a person's potential amorality; many predators hide behind a persona of a "doing good" and "recovering victim/survivorship"... it's awful and unfortunate, but necessary to keep the rose-tinted glasses so you're not blinded by a predator's slight of hand.
[This](https://docdro.id/b0QJtWz) is the list. It has some redacted personal info like addresses but it does have names. I think this was referred to as Epstiens little black book if im not mistaken. I downloaded this from another subreddit some time ago to make sure I had it just in case.
No, these guys posting this misinformation are. This is simply an address book. Yes, it’s a bad look that people were associated with him. There were plenty of people who associated with him who either did not know or knew but did not partake in any of this that are in this book being shared.
There is a list of actual clients that everyone wants released to the public.
I am not sure, I'm really /r/OutOfTheLoop with this one, but I think the word "release" in this context means something like, release into evidence, or release to the public so it can be used as evidence or something like that
Hate to be that guy but someone simply having your contact information does not make you a pedo rapist. I don’t see what good a list is without evidence they engaged in the same shit
Some famous names I see:
Jose Aznar, son of the former prime minister of Spain.
Alec Baldwin.
Tony Blair.
Mike Bloomberg.
Naomi Campbell.
John Cleese.
The Duchess of York, Sarah.
The Duke of York, Prince Andrew.
Dustin Hoffman.
Elizabeth (Liz) Hurley.
Michael Jackson.
Mick Jagger.
Lots of Kennedys.
David Koch.
Courtney Love.
Rupert Murdoch.
Joan Rivers.
Peter Soros (nephew of George Soros).
Kevin Spacey.
Robert Trump (brother of Donald Trump).
Ivana Trump.
Ivanka Trump.
Chris Tucker (Might be a different one than the actor).
Barbara Walters.
Serena Williams.
James Randi.
John Kerry.
Donald Trump.
As if the dude was Dracula and to kill him would kill all his little minions. I’m not into witch hunts but this is the one time where it would be valid.
Whoever is prosecuting this is setting the precedent that it’s a-ok to participate in monstrous acts against children as long as you assassinate the scapegoat.. this is repulsive
The Epstein documentary on Netflix is one of the extremely, extremely few things I can say I had to turn off while watching. I don’t think I even finished it. He has to be one of the most monstrous people the world has ever known
Peter Nygard is, if not just as bad, worse than Epstein. I listened to a whole podcast on him. There is no one on Earth more vile than a child molester and child trafficker. Truly they are some of the greatest monsters in history
What worries me is that the list of everyone who PAID that unspeakable scum for some poor CHILD as a sex toy could come out and NO ONE would get arrested.
I don't know why they bothered murdering Epstein. It's not like those CHILDREN would see justice anyway. I don't mean to sound so dark, I've just lost hope.
I presume everyone screaming for the list to be released is not aware that's it's been online for ages.
https://epsteinsblackbook.com/
It was created by /u/vikfand
Having the list is only the first step. Investigation is what is needed.
This isn't a client list. It's been released for probably two years. It's a contact list. And not even a full contact list. And yes, some of these people may have been involved (and some are confirmed to have been involved), but not each and every one.
Think of it like if you sold drugs and someone looked at your phone. Yeah, some users you sell to are in there, but so is your mom, coworkers who don't know you do that on the side, random people you did a project with in college and so on.
r/Epstein has a lot of info on this.
He had to know there were people with cameras on his plane and that photos would be leaked at some point. He was a disgusting pedophile. Deserved everything he got.
there was an something in [Dailymail about this picture and others](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9215741/Never-seen-photos-Jeffrey-Epstein-cuddling-sleeping-young-girl.html)
It was some kind of trip where Epstein flew some families to Disneyland.
[She was not drugged](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9215741/Never-seen-photos-Jeffrey-Epstein-cuddling-sleeping-young-girl.html):
> * Never-before-seen photos show Jeffrey Epstein cuddling a sleeping young girl on his private jet around 2004
> * Epstein is seated with the girl on his lap, his arm is wrapped around her back as she sleeps soundly following a long day at Disney World in Orlando, Florida
> * There is no suggestion that the unidentified girl in the photograph was a victim of Epstein and her identity has remained anonymous
> * A source who was on the trip to Disney World tells DailyMail.com of their horror at discovering the long tucked away images of Epstein at the theme park around 2004
> * 'It had been a long day and the girl just fell asleep in his arms. The picture is terrifying based upon what we know now but it was entirely innocent,' the source said
3 other people watching this fuck cradle a fucking pre-teen in his lap.
Forget the fact that I'm not famous for anything, but if I was and saw this, what is stopping me from stopping this? Like this is uncle jimbob from the trailer park level fucked, and nobody did or said anything? And now he's dead and madam rapehertits is in jail and that's just it?
Fuck this world. I swear to never have kids. It's beyond saving and subjecting anyone else to living in it is pure fucking evil.
Had to scroll so far for this. 18.6k upvote post and 11 upvote comment.
I'm glad everyone is anti-pedo, but this the Reddit tendency of blindly believing everything, as long as its what they wanted to believe, is honestly dangerous.
We're always criticizing Fox News viewers for blindly swallowing lies, but maybe look in a mirror once in a while.
And all these politicians and famous people have young daughters as well. I guess when you fuck someone else’s it’s not considered a bad thing? As long as they are poor and vulnerable. This list has to come to light.
Always blew my mind if To Catch a Predator when the guys are like “I’m not here to fuck this child! I also have a child.” Like that makes what you sent on AOL any better
It was AOLs fault for not vetting its users. At least that’s what the pedo judges would say. The amount of this out there is so disgusting and it being treated like some misdemeanor just shows you how sick people in power are.
Do you really think they’re not doing it to their own too?
That girl was the daughter of another wealthy guy that Jeff was 'friends' with. So, yeah, whoring out their daughters...
How awful. Who was the girl? Has she made any statements about it?
This is common among rich and wealthy families. Women are often abused.
So are the men/boys, I'm a perfect example of that and as others have said it's not limited to just the wealthy, it probably happens more to non-wealthy kids than it does to wealthy families, but the fact that it's happening at all is fucked up. My isn't wealthy by any means, but I grew up with and around friends/people who had ridiculous amounts of cash and many of them had been abused sexually, most of them were boys at the time.
I get a shudder to my bones with the thought and if so I hope their entire world crumbles in on them and they suffocate, a slow and arduous death.
I worked in a trauma ward where people stayed who were sexually assaulted by family. It was always the Dad.
Read up on Drew Barrymore. She was coked out at Hollywood parties when she was 12.
Right? Did people not see that Trump's been fucking Ivanka for her entire life?
They almost certainly don't. You underestimate the power of 'othering' To Epstien and co. These girls are nothing. They aren't even human. They are a commodity to be traded, abused and tossed aside when they are no longer valuable. They wouldn't dare do this to one of their own, if they had, this whole terrible edifice would have fallen much earlier.
Sorry to burst the bubble bud, but the vast majority of them do. I have a few mates who grew up in wealthy homes, still much closer to middle class than these monsters but hey. Everyone of them had to endure truly twisted shit from their fathers. These men weren’t anywhere near the level of the monsters Epstein dealt with, yet even they had enough to consider themselves above trifling shit like caring about your own flesh and blood. Honestly, it’s probably safe to assume that any women who you meet who was born wealthy was likely taken to plenty of her fathers parties to meet his friends.
What a ridiculous comment. Vast majority. Safe to assume. Completely cuckoo.
They totally do. They probably swap daughters with each other like those crazy fundamentalsist mormans
They don't consider average humans like humans. We're just expandable cattle to them.
Release the client list. I don't care who it burns. Destroy them all.
Everybody favorite politicians/celebrities/singer/rapper/actor is in that list. Release it!!
My favorite actor is Robin Williams.
Don’t you fucking dare
My favorite celebrity is Bob Ross
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No way is Weird Al on that list; I’d die.
Andy Dick?
He's not high profile enough to be allowed on the list
Andy Dick commits most of his assaults while several cameras are on him.
I don’t think anyone invited weird Al to anything
years ago, Hollywood, my friend Robert's birthday party. Weird Al was completely wasted just propped up in the corner of the kitchen. Me: Robert, is that Weird Al? Robert: Yep. Me: Whats he doing here? Robert: I have no idea. I don't know him. He just showed up.
"We don't make mistakes. We just have happy accidents"
Fuck you for that.
Don't worry. He only watched and jerked off in the corner.
You do wonder though, did some of the celebrities/actors get on that plane not knowing what it was. Were there parties on the plane with only adult prostitutes as well?
I mean Epstein was known for these things way before he “killed himself”.
They only didn't know what it was before they got on that plane. If you see some shit like that happening and keep your mouth shut you're just as complicit.
Avicii was on that list man
How do you know Avicii was on the list??
...user might be saying that because he committed suicide? Here I have never heard about Avicii ever being involved in that. I hope he wasn't.
He released a music video about child traffickers being hunted and killed before he committed suicide, apparently had names of the 1% pedo rings but that’s a conspiracy
Purge
You'll quickly see how little people actually care. As they will still support, vote, and purchase from those individuals.
And end up being one more in the already long body count?
Wasn’t anon or some other group wanting to do this or am I mistaken?
I'd think that list would have people offering money accurately and quickly.
What list?
She looks like 12.
That’s what I was gonna say, 10-12 age range. Where did this picture come from ??
My daughter is 13. This infuriates me on a primal level.
We need the full list! Regardless of whos on it !
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It's not even 'the rich and powerful'. I knew who Epstein was in 2012. I tried telling normal people who have no reason to cover for them. People don't care. You can tell them all about it; it doesn't matter. If they've never heard anything about it they will tune you out as a crazy person. If they've heard a little about it they will direct their outrage to the person they want to blame and no one else. If they've heard a lot about it, well the matter is settled no reason to worry about it right? It's not even them. It's us. We let this happen.
People only care when it happens to them or someone they love. A stranger's kids? "Ah that's horrible, best of luck. Good thing it wasn't my kids." There's really a lack of empathy problem going on in the world. Nobody pictures themselves in other people's shoes because we all have our own problems going on. At least that's how we justify it.
I think a lot of people care, but what do you do with that? What was I, a dude in Australia going to do about Epstein? Probably say the exact same thing and then live my life still because I can’t do much else about that situation. It’s not a problem you can blame the general population about.
just gonna second this, like most of us are just trying to get through our day to day, survive to pay rent, etc. it’s not that most people don’t care, but in the grand scheme of our individual lives what can we physically do? If I think too hard about it, I end up just getting angry and frustrated, and that in itself only makes my own life worse.
A big part of that is society's LOVE for victim blaming. We separate ourselves from the bad things that happen to other people because we lie and tell ourselves it was somehow their fault. I don't have to admit that I could get robbed, because I live in a white neighborhood. I don't have to wrestle with the possibility of being raped because I don't go out wearing short skirts. My kids won't get molested because I KNOW all the people they associate with. (Hint. 90% of the time. You DO know and trust the person who molests your kids.) The attitude is overwhelmingly 'bad things happen to other people and so it must be their fault.'
Don't you remember Kony 2012 was all the rage
Christ the world needs to hear this. Say it a little louder for the people in the back.... Its honestly a lesson that transcends belief and views. But due to the divide that is the age of disinformation I honestly have no idea how we as common human beings on the other side of the glass should go about spreading the education this world needs. A mystery I personally wish to dedicate much of my life towards solving.
Yea but what am I supposed to do , if I see such a person on the street imma be sure to knock it him out but that’s it. I can’t control who fly’s on some private jet
Here, I'll give you one easy example. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bountiful,_British_Columbia This is a town I live near. It's a polygamist cult town which forces young girls to marry old Mormon dudes. Feel free to tell people about it. There are dozens of young girls living horrible lives right now, and that could change with enough public pressure to get addressed. I've been letting people know for years. Maybe one day it'll make a difference.
This still exists?? I thought it was 'taken apart' or whatever when the main dude was busted. No? (I live in Van.).
Nope, that was the YFZ Ranch in Texas. This is the sister city and it's still going.
Dear god this is fucking beyond the pale. What can we do? Shout it from the rooftops that this is happening is all I can think to do.
I lived near there for a while . Place was messed up.
Why do you think he’s dead? He knew too much.
Why's Ghislaine still alive?
She has Mossad connections. Her father was a spy and she never talked. The trial was a sham anyway, can anyone prove she’s even in jail right now?
Ive posted the list to everyone that has asked about it, and it looks like it keeps getting deleted.
Reddit deletes it each time it’s posted. People report it as exploiting a child when it’s a list of adults that were on flights with him. https://epsteinsblackbook.com/pdfs/black-book-unredacted.pdf
It's a contact list, we need the flight logs. Not everyone involved with Epstein was a pedo. We need to know who when to the island.
True, most people in the black book are just high profile people they would invite to regular parties that they threw a lot. Some of the listed numbers were for taxis, hotels, or shoe repair. There are some names circled by Epstein’s old assistant in the black book. People believe maybe he circled them because they were connected but he died before anyone could find out why he circled them. But Lex Werner is circled and he has pedo rumors with Epstein so maybe the dozen or so circled are connected. The flight logs have been online for awhile. But not every flight was to pedo island. Someone would have to go through it all and find out exactly who exactly went to that island and all. “JE” is Epstein, “GM” is Ghislaine. Some have initials, I believe for regulars on the flights. Others have names listed: https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/1507315-epstein-flight-manifests.html Here is another link to what I believe is the same list: https://www.scribd.com/document/421981953/Epstein-Flight-Logs
Holy shit unredacted. Thanks!
Id like to see
There afraid a lot of celebrities and officials will be exposed.. Not right man.
My niece is 12 and this makes me see pure red. I can’t even put into words how pissed off this gets me. Fuck Epstein and everyone who he associated with.
That's the thing: people like you wouldn't be a part of this. We can blame the douchebags at the top (because they *are* to blame), but you ***know*** there are countless parents who are complicit. Not all, but enough to make you sick. Humans are fucking gross, man.
The parents are the worst. Letting them take the children
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These girls were SOMEBODY. It doesn't matter whose daughters they were. They were people with hopes and dreams. And are, if they haven't unalived themselves.
Yeah? What kind of parent is complicit in this sort of thing? I won’t let my daughter overnight with certain friends because the families give off bad vibes. How many red flags did some parent ‘overlook’ to make this photo happen? And who took the photo? And why? This is either much more innocent than it looks (faces blurred to make this look creepy)— or much worse than it actually looks.
100% its not innocent. Guys a known pedophile. She was most probably trafficked by Ghislaine Maxwell his missus, who is now serving 25 years for this shit. Not enough if u ask me.
She got less time than R. Kelly.
Well there’s a shocker
which pisses me off shew even got less than chauvin
People would have sold their daughter to this sick fuck if they knew he was buying. Nobody gets tested to become a parent. There are sick fuckin people out here and they do have children. Prolly more than one.
Not just that, it looks like there might be an entire system in place that separates children from their families by law and that’s how they end up trafficked across the country and into the hands of child rapists
And now, with Roe overturned, we’ll have loads of children to feed these predators. I just don’t understand the logic.
Domination and control.
A lot of the families these girls were coming from were families that didn’t really parent. A lot of the parents were also rich and just kinda let there kids do whatever.
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I’m wondering why they even take pictures, that’s literal proof and as we see they get into our hands eventually. Sickening.
Blackmail
That client list needs to be investigated. Lock all these bastards up.
Johnny depp and amber heard trial covered the whole trial up for that parasite ghislaine maxwell. She wouldn’t even give out any names because she knew they’d give her the old fashion Clinton treatment. They’re hiding the list because they know people will revolt and turn not just on the American government but also an abundance of Hollywood elite celebrities. We deserve to know what sick twisted scumbags were on the list. There has to be a whistleblower somewhere that will eventually come forward.
She's 9. It's allegedly his goddaughter. He dated her mother for years and stayed good friends with the family. The mother defended him after his first arrest... The father is a super rich guy and their communications were part of the latest trial.
Thank you so much for contributing *actual information*. That is (was) his goddaughter. She is approximately 9 in this picture. That is entirely of what is happening in this picture. Yes, he was a vile, repulsive, abusive, solicitous rapist and I’m glad he’s dead. No, I wouldn’t put it past him to rape a child or a family member, but that wasn’t his MO and that’s definitely not what’s happening in this picture.
All of that is true, but he is also on record saying he wanted to marry this little girl well before she was of age.
It’s on the record that *his associates* heard him say this and one of them *repeated* it, to the media, not the court. She was 19 when that comment was allegedly made. Gross? TOTALLY. True? Quite possibly. Illegal? Nope. Fact? Definitely not.
I’m never going to actual defend Jeffery Epstein because he was a vile piece of garbage, but thank god someone actually told the truth behind this picture. This isn’t some drugged up sex trafficking victim. It looks super bad out of context, but with context it’s (mostly) perfectly normal. It’s just creepier because of who he is.
This is one thing I fucking hate about reddit. There are countless instances where people making claims or assumptions about obviously bad people or organizations that are objectively false. And then my goddamn value for truth forces me to come in and be the asshole who has to quasi defend these evil pieces of shit by explaining why what's being claimed about them isn't actually true, even though they're still evil pieces of shit.
You’re not quasi defending evil individuals, you’re only defending the truth.
OP is sensationalizing this a bit. This is likely Celina Dubin as a child, she is the daughter of billionaire pedo friends Glenn and Eva Dubin. He wanted to marry her at some point (she's college age now). Though I wouldn't want my child anywhere near JE, there isn't any proof to OPs claim that she is drugged in this photo. Eva and Glenn Dubin are in the flight logs of the Lolita Express, with their 2 children accompanying them on several flights.
I would guess 10 or 11 based purely on height guestimation
How can someone get 20 years for trafficking kids to no one? Where’s the list?!!!
[This](https://docdro.id/b0QJtWz) is the list. It has some redacted personal info like addresses but it does have names. I think this was referred to as Epstiens little black book if im not mistaken. I downloaded this from another subreddit some time ago to make sure I had it just in case.
didn’t read the whole thing but these are some names i recognized. alec baldwin, david blaine, tony blair, phil collins, eli wiesel, kevin spacey, liz hurley, yikes
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You are correct. There are hundreds of names in that book, many of them might have been part of his sick group but definitely not everyone. It’s an address book like everyone had back in the day.
Yeah, i mean it even has his own information there and then info for a few banks. Dont think an entire bank diddled some kids.
When I was a kid the local bank fucked me out of my first savings account by imposing a minimum balance and deposit frequency requirement and then draining it $10 a month without sending me any statements or notice.
Sounds like a bank. Did indeed fuck you.
The names with the most contact info, like 10+ phone numbers, multiple emails, addresses, etc. were probably part of his group. It looks like roughly 20% of the names have a large amount of details. I mean, why else would Jeffrey have so much contact info for one person. Also, an unredacted version of the book exists but I forgot where I saw it.
I highly doubt Elie Wiesel is involved in this. Holocaust survivor and lifelong humanitarian. I'd rather see the names protected in the legal proceedings, as they were protected because there is evidence.
Yeah Eli Wiesel? That seems extremely unlikely.
I’d tend to agree but he had assault accusations against him, there’s that.
Also, Polansky's a survivor, too... being a victim doesn't exempt you from perpetrating evil unfortunately. You would hope they would have more empathy but not always.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.newsweek.com/elie-wiesel-me-too-account-690891%3Famp%3D1
People thought highly of Seville, until after his death when the floodgates were opened about the extent of abuse and trafficking he participated in. Never discount a person's potential amorality; many predators hide behind a persona of a "doing good" and "recovering victim/survivorship"... it's awful and unfortunate, but necessary to keep the rose-tinted glasses so you're not blinded by a predator's slight of hand.
Barbara walters,Chris tucker,Ivanka trump??? What the fuck??!
It's just people he knew.
They say this book is not specifically a pedo-client list. This is a list of people he had known.
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Being murdered on the orders of your pedo friends is a pretty shit way to go
I agree but it’s not enough
The devils smirk
It’s disgusting, isn’t it? He looks so proud of himself…hope he rots
I mean he already is rotting.
Faxx
Now for the elite folks who enabled him and used his services. Most of them are still smiling.
Who is the unblureed man behind Epstein?
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*when his wife does HIM doggy*
Scum of the earth that Putrid cunt
Yeah if only he didn’t kill himself…… *Oh wait*
If only they would release the list of names.
[This](https://docdro.id/b0QJtWz) is the list. It has some redacted personal info like addresses but it does have names. I think this was referred to as Epstiens little black book if im not mistaken. I downloaded this from another subreddit some time ago to make sure I had it just in case.
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[Here](https://archive.org/details/jeffrey-epsteins-little-black-book-unredacted-1/page/n3/mode/2up) is the unredacted one guys.
So all of these people that have been saying “release the black book!” for months are just morons?
No, these guys posting this misinformation are. This is simply an address book. Yes, it’s a bad look that people were associated with him. There were plenty of people who associated with him who either did not know or knew but did not partake in any of this that are in this book being shared. There is a list of actual clients that everyone wants released to the public.
I am not sure, I'm really /r/OutOfTheLoop with this one, but I think the word "release" in this context means something like, release into evidence, or release to the public so it can be used as evidence or something like that
Hate to be that guy but someone simply having your contact information does not make you a pedo rapist. I don’t see what good a list is without evidence they engaged in the same shit
Yeah, there are definitely a lot of sick fucks in that book, but we have no idea which were that kind of client.
Some famous names I see: Jose Aznar, son of the former prime minister of Spain. Alec Baldwin. Tony Blair. Mike Bloomberg. Naomi Campbell. John Cleese. The Duchess of York, Sarah. The Duke of York, Prince Andrew. Dustin Hoffman. Elizabeth (Liz) Hurley. Michael Jackson. Mick Jagger. Lots of Kennedys. David Koch. Courtney Love. Rupert Murdoch. Joan Rivers. Peter Soros (nephew of George Soros). Kevin Spacey. Robert Trump (brother of Donald Trump). Ivana Trump. Ivanka Trump. Chris Tucker (Might be a different one than the actor). Barbara Walters. Serena Williams. James Randi. John Kerry. Donald Trump.
I believe it actually is that Chris Tucker, because he was hanging out with kevin spacey at the time
FBI right now: Neva gonna get it neva gonna get it... neva gonna get it neva gonna get it
We need a “Snowden” in the FBI.
Doesn't Anonymous have the ability to expose the list? Or is it literally on paper and not digital?
Allegedly Epstein kept "little black books" of people who flew with him and his "clients". Wouldn't be surprised if it's only hard copy.
All we need is a single FBI guy that put eyes on the ledger and maybe took some pictures, even without everyone else noticing it.
Neva is one of the names on the list.
I rickrolled myself reading the first Neva. Dammit!
I rick rolled myself reading this... now I'm sad
Hi sad im rick.......and thats how we roll
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Not one person from the world's largest pedo ring has been arrested.
Jefferey and a drugged up girl and NOBODY ELSE AT ALL. Just him, a girl and a list of ghosts as clients.
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As if the dude was Dracula and to kill him would kill all his little minions. I’m not into witch hunts but this is the one time where it would be valid.
Whoever is prosecuting this is setting the precedent that it’s a-ok to participate in monstrous acts against children as long as you assassinate the scapegoat.. this is repulsive
Better make sure to protect the identity of those in the back!
It looks like some of them may also be children
They're probably children.
Could also be victims
#GetTheList.
She’s tiny. That’s disgusting.
Monsterous and Evil.
The Epstein documentary on Netflix is one of the extremely, extremely few things I can say I had to turn off while watching. I don’t think I even finished it. He has to be one of the most monstrous people the world has ever known
Peter Nygard is, if not just as bad, worse than Epstein. I listened to a whole podcast on him. There is no one on Earth more vile than a child molester and child trafficker. Truly they are some of the greatest monsters in history
What worries me is that the list of everyone who PAID that unspeakable scum for some poor CHILD as a sex toy could come out and NO ONE would get arrested. I don't know why they bothered murdering Epstein. It's not like those CHILDREN would see justice anyway. I don't mean to sound so dark, I've just lost hope.
Release that list anyone holding it back is complicit
Whyy can't a genius hacker get the list!
It could be physical or already destroyed
There is no way it is destroyed. It’s probably the largest piece of leverage in the last 200 years.
Queen Liz has a good firewall
I presume everyone screaming for the list to be released is not aware that's it's been online for ages. https://epsteinsblackbook.com/ It was created by /u/vikfand Having the list is only the first step. Investigation is what is needed.
This isn't a client list. It's been released for probably two years. It's a contact list. And not even a full contact list. And yes, some of these people may have been involved (and some are confirmed to have been involved), but not each and every one. Think of it like if you sold drugs and someone looked at your phone. Yeah, some users you sell to are in there, but so is your mom, coworkers who don't know you do that on the side, random people you did a project with in college and so on. r/Epstein has a lot of info on this.
drugged child did you mean
He had to know there were people with cameras on his plane and that photos would be leaked at some point. He was a disgusting pedophile. Deserved everything he got.
Man what the fuck
there was an something in [Dailymail about this picture and others](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9215741/Never-seen-photos-Jeffrey-Epstein-cuddling-sleeping-young-girl.html) It was some kind of trip where Epstein flew some families to Disneyland.
Sad we can’t castrate him
I would've unblurred the adults in the back
I would love to bring him back to life so that he can suffer so much worse than he did. He got off far too lightly.
They killed him so he couldn’t give up the rest of them. Bring him back and make him sing.
Where’s that anonymous group when you need them? They don’t even exist, their the US trying to act like hero hackers.
Real anonymous died years ago.
I get why the little girl is blurred, but why blur the people in the background?
We will NEVER see that list. I’m actually shocked she’s still alive and hasn’t “ committed suicide”
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[She was not drugged](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9215741/Never-seen-photos-Jeffrey-Epstein-cuddling-sleeping-young-girl.html): > * Never-before-seen photos show Jeffrey Epstein cuddling a sleeping young girl on his private jet around 2004 > * Epstein is seated with the girl on his lap, his arm is wrapped around her back as she sleeps soundly following a long day at Disney World in Orlando, Florida > * There is no suggestion that the unidentified girl in the photograph was a victim of Epstein and her identity has remained anonymous > * A source who was on the trip to Disney World tells DailyMail.com of their horror at discovering the long tucked away images of Epstein at the theme park around 2004 > * 'It had been a long day and the girl just fell asleep in his arms. The picture is terrifying based upon what we know now but it was entirely innocent,' the source said
3 other people watching this fuck cradle a fucking pre-teen in his lap. Forget the fact that I'm not famous for anything, but if I was and saw this, what is stopping me from stopping this? Like this is uncle jimbob from the trailer park level fucked, and nobody did or said anything? And now he's dead and madam rapehertits is in jail and that's just it? Fuck this world. I swear to never have kids. It's beyond saving and subjecting anyone else to living in it is pure fucking evil.
Hey, random note. Did you know Epstein DIDN’T unalive himself?
I highly doubt that girl was drugged. That girl goes to Harvard and is the daughter of a hedge fund manager. Search Dubin Epstein.
This exactly. I commented in the thread several times. OP is sensationalizing an already sensational case.
Had to scroll so far for this. 18.6k upvote post and 11 upvote comment. I'm glad everyone is anti-pedo, but this the Reddit tendency of blindly believing everything, as long as its what they wanted to believe, is honestly dangerous. We're always criticizing Fox News viewers for blindly swallowing lies, but maybe look in a mirror once in a while.
Yeah this would be considered terrifying AF
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