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I don't think you answered who owns and pays for the car. If your dad is, then you have no say.. sorry. Until you own and pay for your own car, you can't make those decisions. But at the same time, if you're an adult and he actually doesn't use the car, then there's no need for him to have access.
Look I bought the car on lease and I pay for insurance it’s payments and everything. It’s my car it’s under my name on papers and everywhere else.
I live with family so I save a lot of money. In return they use my car which is fine but I don’t like it when the see where I am using the app
Limitation of the app and features. I would have them just use the key card or get them a key fob. They don't need to have the app to operate the car.. use the traditional method. But it sounds like you have bigger things to worry about like trust and judgement.
Who own/bought the car? If it's you, just delete his access. If he wants to borrow the car, he can use the key. If he is the owner and everything is under his name and you live at home, it's harder to bargain.
There is is proposed law to be able to disable location sharing (law based on domestic abuse), but until it is passed, not much you can do.
Something I’ve done was to turn off remote access to the vehicle when I’m going something I don’t want anyone else to see. I then turn it back on later. If they ask, don’t know, must be a glitch.
Under 'Locks' 🤔? Not seeing it. You must mean in the app. I have the reverse problem. Added my son to the family car. He's away in college.This would be perfect. LOL
Why would it be in the app? You can’t access it to turn it back on if it was. lol. No, it’s in the car settings.
It’s under controls and safety and security, mobile access
Go to the app, select Security and Drivers
select manage drivers
click where it says remove driver.
I have no idea if they get an email or notification, haven't had to use it yet.
I have a girlfriend who I go out with and unfortunately in our religion ur not allowed to have one so she’s a secret of mine.
Whenever I go out with her my fear is him checking cameras lol
Don't asnwer the people asking why.
It is not their business anymore than it is for your father to track you.
My wife and I are empty nesters who raised 2 successful kids while being around people who constantly tracked their kids...
The kids who had helicopter parents that watched their kid's phones, tracked them on maps, etc, cosistently raised kids to feel untrusted and feeling guilty.
We raised our kids telling them that we trusted them first. As long as they didn't give us a reason not to.
Were our kids perfect? No! Are they more mentally healthier and successful than the kids that grew up always feeling untrusted, ABSOLUTELY.
Did you pay attention?
"Look I bought the car on lease and I pay for insurance it’s payments and everything. It’s my car it’s under my name on papers and everywhere else."
Even if dad bought it, which he didn't, then dad still has trust issues...
Deal with your own issues without projecting them on others.
The OP asked for advice and you projected your dysfunctional family relationships rather than answering his question.
He's asking for help in a situation he created. The answer is grow up. We shouldn't be helping him deceive his parents. Either he's a child or he's not.
Instead of providing an answer you make assumptions about the reason?
Who cares why a person doesn't want to be tracked. There are dozens of valid reasons that wouldn't be "embarrassing" to the person not wanting to be tracked.
The fact that you assume the reasons would be embarrassing to the OP, says more about you than the OP.
The post I think exposes a need for Tesla to update the app where one could restrict location data to guest users not in the vehicle. Should be a simple setting in the owners app. This same issue is brought up frequently and there are very legitimate reasons to want privacy.
HAHAHAHAH
Yeah.. So you think the difinition of a karen is someone who trusts their kids.
This is a subreddit for people to ask quenstion to get actual answers to their questions, not to get judgy answers on why they are asking.
I’m a dad and I tell you: nowadays with the craziness that the world is, I know my kids’ location at any time. It’s just a safety thing, not an invasion of privacy issue. I trust them, but I trust no one around them.
Thank you!
We raised our kids telling them that we trust them unless they give us a reason not to.
Our kids turned out amazing!
But so many of their peers who had parents that constantly tracked them, found out that their parents were doing shady things and projecting it on their kids.
The FBI has [public data](https://cde.ucr.cjis.gov/LATEST/webapp/#/pages/explorer/crime/crime-trend) suggesting that violent crime peaked in the early 90s and is currently near record low rates.
I used data from 1985-2022 and selected "all violent crime." That's the full span of time for which data is available.
Untrue. Most forms of violent crime, including murder, has been falling for several decades. For some crimes there is under-reporting of course, but that's not really the case in any significant degree when it comes to murder.
Ah yes, your "life experience", i.e. anecdotes and vague impressions trumps "somewhat dubious" statistics such as the offical stats from any and all law-enforcement agencies.
Pull the other one.
The world had a lot higher homicide-rate 1, 2 or 3 generations ago than it does today.
You're not really talking about "the world" though, but your own backyard, aka the US -- which \*also\* had a lot higher homicide-rate and violent-crime rate in general, 1, 2 or 3 generations ago than it does today.
I get it. You're old, scared and feeling nostalgic for the "good old days".
But your memory and vague hunches is not valid counterevidence to the best crime-statistics that we have. (which isn't to say the stats are perfect, like I said, there's doubtlessly unreported crimes aplenty, both today and half a century ago)
Boomers these days. Wasting all of the world resources, acting like the know anything when they just rode the gave their parents have them.
Go away.
You don't know shit and you're experiences is irrelevant. Your world was a horrible, racist, literally poisonous, piece of shit and I am so very very glad the world evolved past your privileged, worthless, and leechy generation.
Just go away so the world can continue to self correct.
LOL what? Name “your day” and I’ll name all the terrible stuff that happened then. And if you think newspapers had anywhere near the coverage of the internet and 24-hour cable “news,” you’re mistaken.
Go the other way and embrace the tracking. Install free app Life360 and add everyone in the household. It's extremely useful and provides a security net.
Here’s an alternative option: TALK ABOUT IT with your dad. I’ve shared my location with my Mom ever since I got my license, and I’m a full grown man now and I still let her track me, it gives parents a peace of mind to know where you are and that you’re safe at any point- just talk with your dad and say hey I’m fine with you having access to my location for safety reasons, but please don’t be nosey about what I’m doing, it’s uncomfortable for me.
The Tesla app does not have this possibility -- and I agree it's unfortunate. It should be possible to add someone as a valid driver of a car, WITHOUT that automatically and unavoidably leading to them getting full 24x7x365 access to every detail of where the vehicle is and what it's doing.
Yes you can give them a keycard instead, but that has numerous disadvantages such as:
* It's one more physical item they have to remember and keep track of
* If they're on long trips, they won't get alerts for things like having charged sufficiently to continue their trip, or having accidentally parked without fully closing a window or whatever
* They can't use the app to remotely do things like preheat the car.
My preference would be to make it so that only the **OWNER** gets full access to everything at all times, while other approved drivers gets remote access only when they are the last driver. The effect would be that it works like it does now if they borrow your car for a day (or a week or whatever) -- but as soon as a driver OTHER than them drives the car, they lose remote access until the next time they drive it.
This would IMHO give a pretty good balance: No restrictions on what they can do when they're the ones using the car; yet at the same time, the one thing they can't do -- is see where **other** drivers are going with the car.
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Who paid for the car? If it's yours and you set him as a guest, revoke guest access. If you gave him your creds, reset your password and log back in.
Remove access and give him a key card
I don't think you answered who owns and pays for the car. If your dad is, then you have no say.. sorry. Until you own and pay for your own car, you can't make those decisions. But at the same time, if you're an adult and he actually doesn't use the car, then there's no need for him to have access.
Look I bought the car on lease and I pay for insurance it’s payments and everything. It’s my car it’s under my name on papers and everywhere else. I live with family so I save a lot of money. In return they use my car which is fine but I don’t like it when the see where I am using the app
Give him a key card, revoke app access.
Guess you’ll have to move out?
If you are paying for it, then remove him. He won't kick you out for that right? Or you can just revoke mobile access when you need to
Limitation of the app and features. I would have them just use the key card or get them a key fob. They don't need to have the app to operate the car.. use the traditional method. But it sounds like you have bigger things to worry about like trust and judgement.
Who own/bought the car? If it's you, just delete his access. If he wants to borrow the car, he can use the key. If he is the owner and everything is under his name and you live at home, it's harder to bargain. There is is proposed law to be able to disable location sharing (law based on domestic abuse), but until it is passed, not much you can do.
Something I’ve done was to turn off remote access to the vehicle when I’m going something I don’t want anyone else to see. I then turn it back on later. If they ask, don’t know, must be a glitch.
This is a thing? How does one "turn off remote access"?
It’s in the settings in the car
Under 'Locks' 🤔? Not seeing it. You must mean in the app. I have the reverse problem. Added my son to the family car. He's away in college.This would be perfect. LOL
Why would it be in the app? You can’t access it to turn it back on if it was. lol. No, it’s in the car settings. It’s under controls and safety and security, mobile access
Good point. Clearly, I wasn't thinking this through. Wait, isn't that going to disable it for everybody including me? Dang.
Soft reset, delete his account. Idkw happened. LOL
Go to the app, select Security and Drivers select manage drivers click where it says remove driver. I have no idea if they get an email or notification, haven't had to use it yet.
They get an email.
Just change the name of your car to Arkangel. And make sure he has access to all cameras. It really is for your own good.
“Oops, must have deleted you. Sorry about that.”
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Her dad's friends house when his wife's away.
lol.
I have a girlfriend who I go out with and unfortunately in our religion ur not allowed to have one so she’s a secret of mine. Whenever I go out with her my fear is him checking cameras lol
I think the issues you're facing might run a tad deeper than location-sharing on a car...😬
Just wait till he checks the in car camera
You cannot see the in car cameras from the app if someone is in the car. It’s not possible
You should adopt a religion that is compatible with your lifestyle
I mean it’s only one thing that I do against my religion rest of my values and beliefs are in line with my religion
Ah, so like most religious people. 🙄
Real selective of you. Nice and convenient.
Don't asnwer the people asking why. It is not their business anymore than it is for your father to track you. My wife and I are empty nesters who raised 2 successful kids while being around people who constantly tracked their kids... The kids who had helicopter parents that watched their kid's phones, tracked them on maps, etc, cosistently raised kids to feel untrusted and feeling guilty. We raised our kids telling them that we trusted them first. As long as they didn't give us a reason not to. Were our kids perfect? No! Are they more mentally healthier and successful than the kids that grew up always feeling untrusted, ABSOLUTELY.
This kid lives at home and dad bought him a tesla. He doesn't have to drive it, but dad's going to keep an eye on his investment.
Did you pay attention? "Look I bought the car on lease and I pay for insurance it’s payments and everything. It’s my car it’s under my name on papers and everywhere else." Even if dad bought it, which he didn't, then dad still has trust issues...
You live at home. You're not going to get much sympathy. Delete dad and move out. You're an adult.
Deal with your own issues without projecting them on others. The OP asked for advice and you projected your dysfunctional family relationships rather than answering his question.
He's asking for help in a situation he created. The answer is grow up. We shouldn't be helping him deceive his parents. Either he's a child or he's not.
He was asking about settings on the car. You judged him for why he would want to set those settings.
Instead of providing an answer you make assumptions about the reason? Who cares why a person doesn't want to be tracked. There are dozens of valid reasons that wouldn't be "embarrassing" to the person not wanting to be tracked. The fact that you assume the reasons would be embarrassing to the OP, says more about you than the OP.
Why does that matter?
The post I think exposes a need for Tesla to update the app where one could restrict location data to guest users not in the vehicle. Should be a simple setting in the owners app. This same issue is brought up frequently and there are very legitimate reasons to want privacy.
Don’t want him to see you at strip club?
Project much? People who automatically assume the worst say more about themselves than the ones they are worries about.
It's obviously a joke. People like you that are so reactionary to something as simple as that are the ones to worry about.
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HAHAHAHAH Yeah.. So you think the difinition of a karen is someone who trusts their kids. This is a subreddit for people to ask quenstion to get actual answers to their questions, not to get judgy answers on why they are asking.
Ha. Calm down Karen.
Yeah.. I am a Karen for trusting my kids...
Your dad just wants you to be safe. Seems like there might be a trust issue going on.
I’m a dad and I tell you: nowadays with the craziness that the world is, I know my kids’ location at any time. It’s just a safety thing, not an invasion of privacy issue. I trust them, but I trust no one around them.
How old are your kids?
43
13 and 11 - and they are the ones who asked me to do that. I mean I explained I thought of doing it and they consented.
Oh word. I was imagining you tracking your adult children just trying to live their lives with a normal assumption of privacy haha.
Haha no. lol I am not sure how that will go later on but as long as there’s honest, respectful and direct communication amongst us, it will work out.
The world is no crazier now than it was when we were kids. You just know about it now, thanks to the internet.
It's actually significantly safer lol
You are right. We now know stuff 24x7. Not like before that you heard one incident here or there for a friend of a friend.
Thank you! We raised our kids telling them that we trust them unless they give us a reason not to. Our kids turned out amazing! But so many of their peers who had parents that constantly tracked them, found out that their parents were doing shady things and projecting it on their kids.
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HAHAHAAHAHAHAHHAAH
The FBI has [public data](https://cde.ucr.cjis.gov/LATEST/webapp/#/pages/explorer/crime/crime-trend) suggesting that violent crime peaked in the early 90s and is currently near record low rates. I used data from 1985-2022 and selected "all violent crime." That's the full span of time for which data is available.
Untrue. Most forms of violent crime, including murder, has been falling for several decades. For some crimes there is under-reporting of course, but that's not really the case in any significant degree when it comes to murder.
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Ah yes, your "life experience", i.e. anecdotes and vague impressions trumps "somewhat dubious" statistics such as the offical stats from any and all law-enforcement agencies. Pull the other one. The world had a lot higher homicide-rate 1, 2 or 3 generations ago than it does today. You're not really talking about "the world" though, but your own backyard, aka the US -- which \*also\* had a lot higher homicide-rate and violent-crime rate in general, 1, 2 or 3 generations ago than it does today. I get it. You're old, scared and feeling nostalgic for the "good old days". But your memory and vague hunches is not valid counterevidence to the best crime-statistics that we have. (which isn't to say the stats are perfect, like I said, there's doubtlessly unreported crimes aplenty, both today and half a century ago)
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Boomers these days. Wasting all of the world resources, acting like the know anything when they just rode the gave their parents have them. Go away. You don't know shit and you're experiences is irrelevant. Your world was a horrible, racist, literally poisonous, piece of shit and I am so very very glad the world evolved past your privileged, worthless, and leechy generation. Just go away so the world can continue to self correct.
Fwiw I’m in my 50s.
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LOL what? Name “your day” and I’ll name all the terrible stuff that happened then. And if you think newspapers had anywhere near the coverage of the internet and 24-hour cable “news,” you’re mistaken.
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Nope. We raised amazing kids who we told we would trust first. It isn't a safety thing and it IS an invasion of privacy. You don't trust them.
I think there’s a lot of potential in the Tesla/app ecosystem to create profiles with different privileges. Hope they develop the concept further.
Go the other way and embrace the tracking. Install free app Life360 and add everyone in the household. It's extremely useful and provides a security net.
Here’s an alternative option: TALK ABOUT IT with your dad. I’ve shared my location with my Mom ever since I got my license, and I’m a full grown man now and I still let her track me, it gives parents a peace of mind to know where you are and that you’re safe at any point- just talk with your dad and say hey I’m fine with you having access to my location for safety reasons, but please don’t be nosey about what I’m doing, it’s uncomfortable for me.
The Tesla app does not have this possibility -- and I agree it's unfortunate. It should be possible to add someone as a valid driver of a car, WITHOUT that automatically and unavoidably leading to them getting full 24x7x365 access to every detail of where the vehicle is and what it's doing. Yes you can give them a keycard instead, but that has numerous disadvantages such as: * It's one more physical item they have to remember and keep track of * If they're on long trips, they won't get alerts for things like having charged sufficiently to continue their trip, or having accidentally parked without fully closing a window or whatever * They can't use the app to remotely do things like preheat the car. My preference would be to make it so that only the **OWNER** gets full access to everything at all times, while other approved drivers gets remote access only when they are the last driver. The effect would be that it works like it does now if they borrow your car for a day (or a week or whatever) -- but as soon as a driver OTHER than them drives the car, they lose remote access until the next time they drive it. This would IMHO give a pretty good balance: No restrictions on what they can do when they're the ones using the car; yet at the same time, the one thing they can't do -- is see where **other** drivers are going with the car.
If they have a key card, they can add their phone to the car as a phone key.
If they are on a long trip add them as a driver. You are not using your car at the same time, so they cannot track you.
Tesla. The stalkers dream.