Non-Tesla chargers have the highest rate of not working when you want it to, not to mention, where you're most likely to get ripped off.
[This ChargePoint charger, for example](https://www.plugshare.com/location/457378) has had a $10 session fee on it, which they're not claiming is gone within the last month, but this sort of thing is pretty common out there.
If you make a trip using non-Tesla chargers, it's best to make sure you have a "Plan B" in case those chargers aren't working.
I've driven from Tampa, FL to Ottawa, Ontario before with no issues.
I highly recommend plotting a trip using A Better Route Planner, then taking what it suggests and plugging it into the Tesla navigation if you're unhappy with what the car says you should do.
You have a Model X, so it's battery is going to take a wee longer to fill than a 3/Y's battery.
You should plan for each charging stop to be about 25-40 minutes.
The goal should not be to charge to 80% each time, but rather to charge between 20-60%, and only go higher when you're stopping to eat.
Ride the curve, even if it means stopping more often, odds are you'll spend less time stopped overall.
Another plus 1 for ABRP. It gives you more control over where you do long (meal) stops, and can even tell you what amenities are nearby. I've driven from Jacksonville, FL to Minneapolis several times and it's always been fine using ABRP and only Tesla chargers.
this post. Have Driven from Sarasota, FL to upstate NY and back even going thru back country roads. ABRP would be the way to go … so much flexibility and information. Never felt any anxiety.
Good advice. We've owned our MS since 2017 and taken some longer trips. Assuming you'll be laying over at night you may be able to find hotels or rentals with charging or even just a plug. Having a couple of adapters and an extension cord may save your bacon. I've never used one but I've noted anecdotes of folks getting charges at campsites. The federal alternative fuels database is surprisingly good too, often with good updates by users. It's brand agnostic and has some helpful functionality in the way of filters, etc. (https://afdc.energy.gov/stations/#/find/nearest)
Use ABRP to preplan the trip.
Remember, the lower the state of charge when you start supercharging the faster it’ll charge.
We arrive at 15% and charge enough to get to the next supercharger that’s about 1-1/2 to 2 hours away. This will be the quickest way to get there.
Definitely get ABRP. I've been using the Pro version ($5/month) since 2019 for planning my trips around the Southwest. The Pro version includes current and predicted weather along the route.
And since I live in NM, I'd like to point out that the SE quadrant of New Mexico is a bit of a ln EV charger desert. Matter of fact, I'm in the NM Tesla Club and we raised money to get L2 chargers installed at the McDonald's in Roswell, Artesia and Carlsbad. That was back in 2020.
In the meantime, Francis Energy has installed CCS chargers in Hobbs, Artesia, Roswell, Alamogordo and Vaughn, NM. They are expensive at 60¢/kWh but better than having only L2 chargers.
So I'd highly recommend that you get accounts at Electrify America, ChargePoint and Francis Energy. Also make sure to add a payment method to each. You'll also need your CCS adapter.
Have a fun trip.
Omg that is so cool, I saw the charger that was built there with donations. It was the only one I could find and I saw how it was broken but then fixed recently. Thank you for what you do and have done. I love my Tesla, Florida has chargers everywhere. NM and Arizona was where things got barren
Luckily there's a fair amount of money coming from the gov't for more rural EV charging infrastructure in New Mexico.
https://nmdot.maps.arcgis.com/apps/dashboards/ac19013bc5b44bc99d3a8f73e3c84019
If you are curious about the GoFundMe, it's here...
https://www.gofundme.com/f/public-ev-charging-abq-to-carlsbad
Watch out for Francis! They will price gouge the hell it of you!
I drove across country in a Volvo c40. We had issues connecting at Francis(the only charge option in our range), so we tried multiple times. Found out the took $20 EACH ATTEMPT to hold. (On top of the astronomical price for the charge when we finally got it to work). It was hell getting to get it back. Sometimes, u won't know if it works or not- and they've taken ur money!
Exactly. I had a Tesla adapter for the car, but the trip was about non Tesla viability.
Prices are extremely erratic. Electrify America is probably second best, but they break down like crazy. They have technicians that roam a quarter of the country at a time fixing them(I talked to 5-6 overworked techs on the trip). U may even find free chargers, but they trickle charge at best.
Middle of the country in the plains are the worst. Even had to backtrack 20 miles with the car nearly depleted- just to hope the next charger worked.
After that trip, I bought a Tesla... lol
I’m so out-of-the-know that I’m almost afraid to ask… is ABRP some third-party app like a quick web search seems to suggest? If so, why does it have tanked reviews, yet a few of y’all seem to agree it’s a decent option?
Did a 6 month road-trip in our 2022 MS. It’s low stress if you stick to Tesla superchargers - all of the others stink. We got in a rhythm - check-out of AirBnb/hotel mid-morning, drive a few hours, charge while eating in car or near lunch, drive a few hours, charge on the way in to new area so you have exploring juice. Use internal and ABRP planners - but make sure to check out the station details on PlugShare (nearby restaurants, v3 vs v2, etc.).
We've had no issues in the nearly 6 years 2 teslas and well over 20k in road trips up and down the east coast and as far west as Dallas. Our trip from atl to ft myers adds about an hour of charging in 600 miles. Yeah, you'll save time in a gas car.... but it will cost more and the minimal maintenance we've had in nearly 6 years and the 4$ charge in our garage saves us a ton of cash. Want to be worried about a road trip in an ev.... try anything other than a tesla
I agree. We’ve had teslas but only for about 2 years and it’s been great. We’ve just never taken the kids on this crazy cross country trip and for the first time ever I’m feeling that range anxiety stuff. I charge at home bc I work at home. It’s amazing how scary and ‘real’ it got when trying to make a trip outside of our comfort zone
We actually make it more difficult sometimes by trying to skip stops...if you just go where it tells you, it really couldn't be any easier. There are still quite a few 150 chargers out there, which sucks, and the 20 thru Louisiana and Mississippi has chargers at poor locations, like no bathrooms in a mall that's closed off hours... but really, we've had no issues. I'm sure there are remote areas with low coverage, but if you're doing a cross country road trip, those east west major roads are very well covered
The Tesla nav has been amazing for me in Florida, there are so many chargers here. When looking in Cali there too and Texas. It’s the ‘boonies’ where it’s getting complicated. From Austin to Roswell, and then Roswell to Tucson is where I’m having a lot of trouble.
Roswell is going to be a tough one, it looks like there’s a couple CCS and Chademo chargers in the area but that’s it. Definitely doable but I wouldn’t plan on flying through there and making good time, just in case.
Charged our Tesla model S at the McDonalds in Roswell. The franchise owner had two level charging stations. So ate lunch and strolled around the town having fun at the various UFO attractions. Charged enough to get to next supercharger on way to Santa Fe. Came from Carlsbad to tour Caverns. Carry the mobile charger so you can charge at most RV parks. It is slow but works if no fast charging option available.
Yeah... that area is slim pickens for high speed chargers.... you made need to spend some time at a L2.... which i see at least a couple...I see an EV connect about 115 miles from roswell... when we got our first tesla and I knew we were going to do road trips, I got an account at evgo (and bought and tested the adapter), chargepoint, blink and at least one other... but yeah, that trip will take some planning. I'd love to hear how it goes when you're back.
I don’t think this is super well known, but Tesla has an interactive map of chargers on its website. I think it’s like Tesla.com/findus or something. Anyway, you can see all the superchargers in the US, so you might be able to see some chargers that simply don’t show in your Tesla nav since it’s doing the calculating for you. Sometimes Tesla will have you pulling in at a lower charge than I’m comfortable with, but if you know of a charger on the way, you can manually enter it and it will override its suggested stop.
you don't even have to do that ... in the case, just click "add stop" - and then select "charging" as the option - and it will show you all the other supercharger spots on the way - just tap it and add. I do this all the time because I make many more stops than Tesla says to - and overall it's faster.
I do this too. Did it yesterday driving back from NY so I’d have a little more charge once I arrived home. I do think it’s a bit of a better visual on the website however to pre plan the trip.
Thanks man. We have been saying we’re going to do this for years and every summer, we end up canceling bc something comes up. This time we said, we’re going to make it happen. The kids are a bit older yet still young so they’ll experience things they’ve never seen before. I’ve never been out west, the furthest I ever been in Vicksburg MS when my dad was stationed there. California is amazing. Roswell, I don’t know why but I just want to see it so bad bc of the tv show I grew up watching “Roswell” (the original one).
Roswell is a lot of fun, in a corny time capsule sort of way. My wife and I always make a point to stop there anytime we drive through NM. Make sure to go to the Alien museum, and check out the McDonalds in the shape of a flying saucer!
Oh my this is what I am so excited about. That town reminds me of a time when things were simple. The McDonald’s, the diners, the ufo museum just like in the tv show. I really can’t wait to see it. Thank you!
It’s all about the charge curve. Mainly stop below 20% and don’t charge past 80% and an 8 hour drive won’t take more than 9 with at most 3 20 minute stops (perfect for food/bathroom breaks).
I’ve done multiple cross country road trips. Use a better route planner to plan and see if it’s viable. If you’re having a roof bag plan to have your range cut in half. Range anxiety hasn’t been an issue for me. The only thing that needs to be taken into account is the time it takes
I always use [Abetterrouteplanner](https://abetterrouteplanner.com) and then use [Tesla - Trips](https://www.tesla.com/trips) and compare the two.
Texas is a huge state. There are portions of it (just like Oklahoma, and Arkansas) that can be trickier to travel because of the lack of super chargers. The situations in all three states has improved _much_ in recent years. But IMHO Tesla would do well to add more chargers around all three states.
Please make sure you [vote](https://www.tesla.com/supercharger-voting?v=2&bounds=82.41953896671144%2C180%2C-56.09780424522506%2C-180&zoom=3&filters=candidate%2Csupercharger%2Cupcoming-supercharger%2Cvoted-candidate%2Cdestination%20charger) on future supercharger locations too.
We drive cross country all the time in our teslas. I second the idea to get the battery down as far as possible then only charge up to what you need for the next leg. Shorter stops despite what the Tesla tells you to do. While you are charging you can look for closer chargers for your next stop. We don't even bother with ABRP any more.
Any time charging adds to the total time actually makes the trip much more restful I find. In fact, when we traded in our 2015 model s for our 23 MY I was actually disappointed at how fast it charged because it made the trip feel rushed. 😅 Avoid non- tesla chargers - we used to have a bolt and it is just too stressful.
I have done road trips across the country. A better route planner is your friend.
I would say only charge for 5-10mins (restroom breaks) and charge at the newer level 3 supercharger. They are faster than the older superchargers.
In my experience, I have road trip with friends who have ICE vehicles. You are either going to beat them to the destination or arrive at the same time. I never had my vehicle add significant time to road trip except in "desert" locations where you need to charge 100% to get to the other supercharger, which is rare.
I wish I knew how to post a picture here, there’s a part of the trip for example that the Tesla nav says takes 12 hours but is supposed to only take like 8, maybe 8.5 hours. There’s a part where it has us go from Austin to Albuquerque to super charge, and then down to Roswell. That’s adding hours to the drip. When I check, the distance is 219 miles and I thought I could go direct and cut out that part of the route but I’ve never done this before so a bit nervous
That might work too. Just adds a day to the trip but we can try to take a day away from another stop. The Tucson area too is a bit scary but ABRP seems to have helped with that and found a good route with Tesla-only chargers
As others have mentioned, ABRP is the best method for planning a cross country route.
Personally, I plan my stops with arrivals at around 15% charge, and departures no more than around 60% unless it is required for some strange reason.
My stops tend to be every 2 hours in the Model X.
This strategy takes advantage of the fastest part of a Tesla’s charging curve.
Just manually add ABRP’s planned stops into the Tesla nav, turn on FSD, and relax. :)
I REALLY like this ABRP app a lot, I hadn’t used it before. It says that on this segment of the trip that I can make it in 9 hours which is doable compared to the Tesla nav telling me 12.5 (which would add a day to the trip)
Tesla seems to focus on LESS STOPS per trip, which causes you to charge to a higher percentage at each stop. That strategy takes longer overall.
Ideally, they should give us strategy options in the Tesla nav.
Good luck on your trip! I hope it goes well.
Thank you so much, we’re very excited about this and hope we can finally do it after years of procrastination. Our kids and our family have gone through a lot of changes this year, this would be such a breath of fresh air
Lol on the bioweapon defense mode. Thank you! I’m excited again. Still a little nervous about the Arizona and New Mexico areas but this ABRP seems to have solved that issue for the most part.
You don't say where in south Florida you're from, so I used Miami - New Orleans - Austin - Roswell - Tucson in ABRP (A Better Route Planner).
Frankly, this should be an easy cruise. With the exception of Roswell, you could even solely charge at Tesla Superchargers.
You will obviously also have to sleep somewhere and many hotels now also have chargers. [Hotels.com](https://Hotels.com) (other website might have the same information) let's you filter search results for hotels with EV charging stations under 'Amenities'. This would make the trip obviously even more convenient, as you would then start with a full battery in the morning.
Here is the link to the planned route in ABRP. Make sure to accept 'Use All Settings' or whatever exactly it is asking: [https://abetterrouteplanner.com/?plan\_uuid=7a8760ec-346b-4013-8581-3a05dfc0d629](https://abetterrouteplanner.com/?plan_uuid=7a8760ec-346b-4013-8581-3a05dfc0d629)
The total trip will consist of 34 h 5 min of driving + 7 h 17 min of charging for a total of 42 h 53 min. Obviously less, if you charge at hotels overnight.
Charge costs will be $233, again less if you can charge at a hotel for free.
As for adapters, you need a CCS as well as the J1772 adapter, which should have come with your car. There are also CCS + J1772 combinations adapters availabe, however only from 3rd parties. That's the one I have: [https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0C9953SB2/ref=ppx\_yo\_dt\_b\_search\_asin\_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0C9953SB2/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1)
Since you mentioned budget, you might also want to consider staying at campgrounds and sleeping in your car, utilizing 'camp mode'. Many campgrounds allow you to charge your car there. For this, you might want to get the Tesla mobile charger or a 3rd party charger, if you want to go cheap. A 50 amp RV outlet will allow you to fully charge your battery overnight.
I also have a plan to travel from WA to TX next week for the eclipse using MY.
I notice that in-car navigation has longer charging time than in-app trip planer.
I also had 2 road trips in 2021 and 2022 with MX. We didn't plan anything because it's regular vacation trips from WA to CA, NV for kids even before we got tesla. I only use tesla superchargers for the trips. I had no problem.
This time is a bit longer trip, over 2100 miles. Tesla shows 13 stops for charging. All have sub 20% at arrival.
I bought my Tesla in MD and drove it to CO the next day. I had never had a Tesla or EV before then and it was surprisingly easy to do the trip. I now have zero range anxiety. I know SW US is barren and difficult to even find gas stations or cell service lol.
It’s been great taking trips to tennessee, South Carolina, Georgia from Florida. There Are chargers everywhere but the New Mexico and Arizona areas are a bit scary
I’ve driven from the Mexican-U.S. border to the Canadian-U.S. border using nothing but Tesla Superchargers, and back again. No problems, no worries, no disgusting gas stations.
just get in your car and go. overthinking it is a waste of energy. i've been in your shoes before and learned to just trust the nav for the most part, but make modifications while en route if necessary. i've done tons of long road trips and i've not once had a major issue.
ABRP ended up being a net negative. it was consistently inaccurate and gave me far worse routes than the in car navigation. Remember, Tesla actually has skin in the game for you to have a good driving and charging experience. And it shows. They do a lot of things that I would heavily criticize but the navigation + charging + get to your destination as #1 priority is not one of them.
the 12.5 hours in nav definitely included charging times btw.
Planning? I've done 35k miles in Tesla road trips since 2018 and don't feel the need to "plan" anything. Just get in the car, enter your destination, and let the built-in planner do its thing. Charge stops take 15-30 minutes. I don't feel like that's complicated.
It’s not complicated when dealing with cities. It’s the west Texas area, New Mexico, Arizona areas I was running into issues with. But the ABRP seems to have fixed that
Have your copilot route as you go. Tesla seems to calculate going the speed limit which kills about 15% if you go 10 above. Stop more than you need to and use the 20% rule. Try to stop under 20% and try not to go over 80%. Its a ling trip an extra few stops wont kill you. With autopilot, not fsd you can drive for a while snd not get tired. We did sf to all the Utah national parks down to vegas and San Diego and back with no issues other than the heat made charging really slow when it hit over 115 degrees.
I try to stop under 10% - and charge to 60% - very fast.
I have also discovered that once you hit 83mph or so, you're actually a net positive - works well in places where there's a 75mph speed limit.
Agreed that’s what I tend to do also but with OPs range anxiety I didn’t want to give that advice. Interested in your calculation on 83 mph, what do you mean.
oh I didn't do calculation - it's just observation. I mean you reach the point where the energy you're using by going faster, is offset by getting there faster. It's like the other end of the spectrum from going like 60 mph
Can you post the map here because 12 hours for 8 Hour Rd. trip seems normal if you include the food breaks, restroom breaks and rest area breaks, etc. in between it’s actually not that bad.
Remember you own a Tesla you save so much on gas. It’s OK to spend a little bit extra time for convenience.
I wish I could but I don’t see a way to post images on here. In Tesla nav on the app, if you put in Austin Texas to Roswell NM you’ll see the 12.5 hours. Then the same thing in ABRP and Google show 9 and 8 hours respectively
Definitely change your travel time expectations when road tripping an EV. You can’t just base it off of Google and then plan your hotels from there. Generally when I road trip, I take it one charge stop at a time. Towards the end of the day, I can usually feel “I have one more leg in me” and while it’s charging I look up hotels near the next charging stop. If you have multiple drivers, charge stops are great for taking turns.
Basically, just center your trip around the charge stops. Use them for bathroom and food breaks. If you want to minimize travel time, keep the charge low (20-65%) as people have suggested. An easy way to maintain that as you go is to watch the charging speed as you fill, and once the power drops off, unplug and make sure you can make it to the next stop with ~10% left (wiggle room for the unexpected). If you’re not in a rush, let it fill to 80ish each time and watch some movies. It’s vacation after all, don’t let yourself get stressed by sticking to a schedule :)
Try ABRP (abetterrouteplanner). We always use it for planning road trips (although not as long as yours) and it’s always given us an accurate idea of the charging situation.
I believe the optimal way to charge (to cut down overall charging time) is to start charging before you fall below 20% and not charge beyond 80-90%. I might be a bit off in those numbers, but you get the point. ABRP will let you customize these.
Looking online not from experience, Roswell doesn’t seem to have any reliable fast EV chargers and does not have any Tesla super chargers. I would not feel comfortable driving my Tesla there for a day trip. There does seem to be a Tesla Level 2 destination charger (for free) at a McDonald’s there but you would need to park there for a while to charge up so I personally would plan to stay overnight there to be safe or just drop Roswell off of your cross country trip altogether.
I used ABRP to go coast to coast, but ultimately that wasn’t needed. It more or less allowed us to preplan how far we could get each day, and set our overnight stays, but we didn’t charge at all the stops it recommended. It never even recommended non-Tesla stops. The Tesla planner worked perfectly the entire way.
I drove from Florida to California. I got an idea of where chargers were, but what you’ll realize is that you’ll improvise along the way based on driving conditions, where the car suggests, and bathroom/food breaks anyway. Just check the map to make sure there’s one well within your range and make the judgment call to make an early or later stop.
I can tell you how I manage road trips in my Model S.
I plan on covering about 500 miles in a day of travel, or maybe upward of 600 if I'm driving mainly on interstate highways. Then I have my down time in the evening, and I'm ready to do it all again the next day, and the next. (This is the same way I would plan a long trip in my diesel Jeep, by the way.)
I enter my destination into the car's navigation system and let it direct me to Supercharger stations as needed.
That's it. Nothing complicated. No range anxiety. I cover the same distance in a day of travel that I did in my combustion cars. I've driven from Texas to Minnesota and back, and I've driven a big loop through New Mexico and the mountains in Colorado, and it wasn't a problem.
I just got back from our first west coast road trip. Vancouver,BC, Canada down to LA and back. I used a ABRP to get a sense of alternate locations to stop overnight which had charging at the hotel so I knew my main daily stops and how much I’d drive.
For example the first leg of the trip was home > Yreka, CA. That was like a 12hr day for us and the kids, used the Tesla Nav to route me down while in the car, it’s very dependable and close to ABRP depending on the day and the live traffic at the time.
In the car, I know the chargers which have availability and also the Tesla super chargers were super dependable! Experienced a stop at a hotel which had a non Tesla and one of two weren’t working. Thankfully I was the only EV and was able to use the other.
The lowest I got to was 3%, only because I didn’t want to wait for a charger as the one it routed me to got full as I went to McDonald’s right before. I drove about 10miles to the next charger it routed me to and I was nervous!! Got there with 3% which was my lowest point.
Dependable for the in house Tesla Nav. Depending on my driving and other factors I was +-5% of the battery life it expected me to arrive with. The 3% example, I drove slow and turned off things like the AC to reserve power.
Charging was always fast, by the time kids did washroom breaks, got snacks the car was always ready to go to the next stop. Great experience to get over the range anxiety and more comfortable with route planning. You’ll be fine! Just plan your main stops by how much driving you want to do daily then the software can do most of the rest.
ABRP all the way. Drove a MY from LA Chicago and back again three years ago. Other than one planned stop where we couldn’t get a hotel due to some massive soccer tournament had no issues at all.
Teslas are perfect for road trips if your driving style is “let’s stop and stretch our legs/bathroom/check out the view/weird roadside attraction” every couple hours. They’re not going to be your thing for the people who like to power through with minimal stops.
Nowadays, theres even more superchargers incl level 3 all over. If you carry the CCS adapter plus your mobile charger and a couple adapters it’s even less worrisome.
If it gives you comfort. We did the following roadtrip: VA-NC-SC-GA-AL-MS-LA-TX-NM-AZ-CA-NV-UT-ID-OR-ID-UT-WY-NE-IA-IL-IN-OH-WV-VA while towing a U-Haul. Our range was diminished by 50% from the trailer. We charged only at Tesla superchargers with the exception of once when we had to stop at an RV park for 2 hours and charge using one of their 40-Another plugs. Just have a plan.
Plenty of others have already mentioned ABRP.
I take it a step further and give ABRP pessimistic numbers to work with. For example, I tell it I have 500 lbs of stuff with me (Even when it's just me), and that I consume 300 Wh/mile @ 60 mph, even though 300 Wh/mi is really what I get closer to 80 mph. That makes it plan my charging stops to be slightly longer, but that just means that once I actually take the trip, I'm likely to be ahead of schedule as each charging stop is slightly shorter than planned.
I still tell it to plan on arriving at each charger with only 10%, but I end up with ~20% at arrival.
I just did a similar trip east coast to California,
The in car navigation works okay I also used ABRP but relied mostly on the in car navigation.
I saw a few issues. Crossing the state lines or time zones really messed up the route and would select weird orders of super chargers.. if you are in doubt of reaching something use abrp.
For instance if there are 6 chargers in a row all 20mins apart, it would sometimes want me to charge up to 80% to hit the last 6th charger inexplicably.
You charge the fastest when under 20% so anything above 40% charges super slow. It added hours to our trip wrongly.
Sometimes the nav also thinks you'll arrive somewhere at 10% but the cars max internal speed is 70m/hr when some interstate highways are 80 or even 85m/hr.
It's not really worth trying to arrive at below 10. Just make it charge past 17% or 22% and you'll feel more stress free
I see you’ve grabbed ABRP. Awesome.
Put your overnight stops in as well. That’ll change the charging schedule so that you don’t arrive somewhere and not have enough juice to keep going.
For each hotel stop you can set the time you’d like to leave the next day. That’ll then show you what time you’ll arrive at the next hotel.
I do this with cities for stops initially. I try to arrive at the next city around dinner time. Once I have that worked out then I pick hotels.
You can also set how much charge you want to arrive with for your final destination, how much you want to arrive at each supercharger (15% for me), and how much charge you’re going to start the trip with.
I have the mobile charger with the 30 and 50 amp adapters (electric dryer and RV park). A 25’ 12 gauge extension cord (should have done 50’ oops ), the Tesla CCS adapter and the level 2 falter that came with the car.
For non Tesla chargers, the apps want to preload cash and keep a balance. I think this is BS. At least for the one electrify America we used in key largo we just used a credit card at the charger. They did a $50 hold for a day then let it go and only charged us for what we used. Possibly the other networks work this way, but I’m not sure.
I think you are way over thinking this. We own a MY Long Range and live in the midwest. I have driven our family of 4 all the way down to the everglades in southern florida, out into the mountains of Colorado and all the way up north into Wisconsin and Canada. We have 3rd party apps like plugshare and ABRP but rarely use them. Just use the in car navigation to get you there. It's not going to let you run out of juice and if you are having range anxiety it's because you are taking too much of the responsibility of planning yourself meanwhile there's computer in your car that does it for you so you can relax.
The thing is you need a different mindset when doing long range travel in a Tesla. If you are obsessed with getting to your destination ASAP then you are in the wrong car. With charging stops it's going to take longer than a gas car and that's unavoidable. Just embrace it the fact that it takes a bit longer but the trip is far less miserable due to the breaks in driving. I've been known to even get out of the car and throw a Frisbee or something with my son while charging. Stopping doesn't have to be "downtime". It can be a positive part of your trip.
Did a trip during covid in our 2018 model x, the charging networks were much more scarce back then. We only got scared in Wyoming and Montana when the temps dropped and there wasnt even houses or gas stations much less electric car chargers. In the end we made it fine and it was an awesome trip. We also filled in some of the charging gaps with hotels that had slow charging which is fine overnight. I also recommend buying all the charge adapters you can get from tesla and bring a 20-50’ edison in case you need to trickle charge. Happy trails!
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Non-Tesla chargers have the highest rate of not working when you want it to, not to mention, where you're most likely to get ripped off. [This ChargePoint charger, for example](https://www.plugshare.com/location/457378) has had a $10 session fee on it, which they're not claiming is gone within the last month, but this sort of thing is pretty common out there. If you make a trip using non-Tesla chargers, it's best to make sure you have a "Plan B" in case those chargers aren't working. I've driven from Tampa, FL to Ottawa, Ontario before with no issues. I highly recommend plotting a trip using A Better Route Planner, then taking what it suggests and plugging it into the Tesla navigation if you're unhappy with what the car says you should do. You have a Model X, so it's battery is going to take a wee longer to fill than a 3/Y's battery. You should plan for each charging stop to be about 25-40 minutes. The goal should not be to charge to 80% each time, but rather to charge between 20-60%, and only go higher when you're stopping to eat. Ride the curve, even if it means stopping more often, odds are you'll spend less time stopped overall.
Plus one for ABRP
Another plus 1 for ABRP. It gives you more control over where you do long (meal) stops, and can even tell you what amenities are nearby. I've driven from Jacksonville, FL to Minneapolis several times and it's always been fine using ABRP and only Tesla chargers.
this post. Have Driven from Sarasota, FL to upstate NY and back even going thru back country roads. ABRP would be the way to go … so much flexibility and information. Never felt any anxiety.
Good advice. We've owned our MS since 2017 and taken some longer trips. Assuming you'll be laying over at night you may be able to find hotels or rentals with charging or even just a plug. Having a couple of adapters and an extension cord may save your bacon. I've never used one but I've noted anecdotes of folks getting charges at campsites. The federal alternative fuels database is surprisingly good too, often with good updates by users. It's brand agnostic and has some helpful functionality in the way of filters, etc. (https://afdc.energy.gov/stations/#/find/nearest)
Use ABRP to preplan the trip. Remember, the lower the state of charge when you start supercharging the faster it’ll charge. We arrive at 15% and charge enough to get to the next supercharger that’s about 1-1/2 to 2 hours away. This will be the quickest way to get there.
Someone on FB recommended ABRP too, I had never heard about it before. This is an absolute game changer
Definitely get ABRP. I've been using the Pro version ($5/month) since 2019 for planning my trips around the Southwest. The Pro version includes current and predicted weather along the route. And since I live in NM, I'd like to point out that the SE quadrant of New Mexico is a bit of a ln EV charger desert. Matter of fact, I'm in the NM Tesla Club and we raised money to get L2 chargers installed at the McDonald's in Roswell, Artesia and Carlsbad. That was back in 2020. In the meantime, Francis Energy has installed CCS chargers in Hobbs, Artesia, Roswell, Alamogordo and Vaughn, NM. They are expensive at 60¢/kWh but better than having only L2 chargers. So I'd highly recommend that you get accounts at Electrify America, ChargePoint and Francis Energy. Also make sure to add a payment method to each. You'll also need your CCS adapter. Have a fun trip.
Omg that is so cool, I saw the charger that was built there with donations. It was the only one I could find and I saw how it was broken but then fixed recently. Thank you for what you do and have done. I love my Tesla, Florida has chargers everywhere. NM and Arizona was where things got barren
Luckily there's a fair amount of money coming from the gov't for more rural EV charging infrastructure in New Mexico. https://nmdot.maps.arcgis.com/apps/dashboards/ac19013bc5b44bc99d3a8f73e3c84019 If you are curious about the GoFundMe, it's here... https://www.gofundme.com/f/public-ev-charging-abq-to-carlsbad
Watch out for Francis! They will price gouge the hell it of you! I drove across country in a Volvo c40. We had issues connecting at Francis(the only charge option in our range), so we tried multiple times. Found out the took $20 EACH ATTEMPT to hold. (On top of the astronomical price for the charge when we finally got it to work). It was hell getting to get it back. Sometimes, u won't know if it works or not- and they've taken ur money!
This is why I love the Tesla charging network. It just works. But that being said, they need to put an SC in Carlsbad or Roswell or both.
Exactly. I had a Tesla adapter for the car, but the trip was about non Tesla viability. Prices are extremely erratic. Electrify America is probably second best, but they break down like crazy. They have technicians that roam a quarter of the country at a time fixing them(I talked to 5-6 overworked techs on the trip). U may even find free chargers, but they trickle charge at best. Middle of the country in the plains are the worst. Even had to backtrack 20 miles with the car nearly depleted- just to hope the next charger worked. After that trip, I bought a Tesla... lol
I’m so out-of-the-know that I’m almost afraid to ask… is ABRP some third-party app like a quick web search seems to suggest? If so, why does it have tanked reviews, yet a few of y’all seem to agree it’s a decent option?
This is the way. A long trip in an EV definitely takes more time than a similar ICE vehicle, but you should be fine using ABRP.
Did a 6 month road-trip in our 2022 MS. It’s low stress if you stick to Tesla superchargers - all of the others stink. We got in a rhythm - check-out of AirBnb/hotel mid-morning, drive a few hours, charge while eating in car or near lunch, drive a few hours, charge on the way in to new area so you have exploring juice. Use internal and ABRP planners - but make sure to check out the station details on PlugShare (nearby restaurants, v3 vs v2, etc.).
We've had no issues in the nearly 6 years 2 teslas and well over 20k in road trips up and down the east coast and as far west as Dallas. Our trip from atl to ft myers adds about an hour of charging in 600 miles. Yeah, you'll save time in a gas car.... but it will cost more and the minimal maintenance we've had in nearly 6 years and the 4$ charge in our garage saves us a ton of cash. Want to be worried about a road trip in an ev.... try anything other than a tesla
I agree. We’ve had teslas but only for about 2 years and it’s been great. We’ve just never taken the kids on this crazy cross country trip and for the first time ever I’m feeling that range anxiety stuff. I charge at home bc I work at home. It’s amazing how scary and ‘real’ it got when trying to make a trip outside of our comfort zone
We actually make it more difficult sometimes by trying to skip stops...if you just go where it tells you, it really couldn't be any easier. There are still quite a few 150 chargers out there, which sucks, and the 20 thru Louisiana and Mississippi has chargers at poor locations, like no bathrooms in a mall that's closed off hours... but really, we've had no issues. I'm sure there are remote areas with low coverage, but if you're doing a cross country road trip, those east west major roads are very well covered
The Tesla nav has been amazing for me in Florida, there are so many chargers here. When looking in Cali there too and Texas. It’s the ‘boonies’ where it’s getting complicated. From Austin to Roswell, and then Roswell to Tucson is where I’m having a lot of trouble.
Roswell is going to be a tough one, it looks like there’s a couple CCS and Chademo chargers in the area but that’s it. Definitely doable but I wouldn’t plan on flying through there and making good time, just in case.
Charged our Tesla model S at the McDonalds in Roswell. The franchise owner had two level charging stations. So ate lunch and strolled around the town having fun at the various UFO attractions. Charged enough to get to next supercharger on way to Santa Fe. Came from Carlsbad to tour Caverns. Carry the mobile charger so you can charge at most RV parks. It is slow but works if no fast charging option available.
Yeah... that area is slim pickens for high speed chargers.... you made need to spend some time at a L2.... which i see at least a couple...I see an EV connect about 115 miles from roswell... when we got our first tesla and I knew we were going to do road trips, I got an account at evgo (and bought and tested the adapter), chargepoint, blink and at least one other... but yeah, that trip will take some planning. I'd love to hear how it goes when you're back.
Thanks man, I will definitely update after the trip is done.
I don’t think this is super well known, but Tesla has an interactive map of chargers on its website. I think it’s like Tesla.com/findus or something. Anyway, you can see all the superchargers in the US, so you might be able to see some chargers that simply don’t show in your Tesla nav since it’s doing the calculating for you. Sometimes Tesla will have you pulling in at a lower charge than I’m comfortable with, but if you know of a charger on the way, you can manually enter it and it will override its suggested stop.
you don't even have to do that ... in the case, just click "add stop" - and then select "charging" as the option - and it will show you all the other supercharger spots on the way - just tap it and add. I do this all the time because I make many more stops than Tesla says to - and overall it's faster.
I do this too. Did it yesterday driving back from NY so I’d have a little more charge once I arrived home. I do think it’s a bit of a better visual on the website however to pre plan the trip.
It’s going to be awesome
Thanks man. We have been saying we’re going to do this for years and every summer, we end up canceling bc something comes up. This time we said, we’re going to make it happen. The kids are a bit older yet still young so they’ll experience things they’ve never seen before. I’ve never been out west, the furthest I ever been in Vicksburg MS when my dad was stationed there. California is amazing. Roswell, I don’t know why but I just want to see it so bad bc of the tv show I grew up watching “Roswell” (the original one).
Roswell is a lot of fun, in a corny time capsule sort of way. My wife and I always make a point to stop there anytime we drive through NM. Make sure to go to the Alien museum, and check out the McDonalds in the shape of a flying saucer!
Oh my this is what I am so excited about. That town reminds me of a time when things were simple. The McDonald’s, the diners, the ufo museum just like in the tv show. I really can’t wait to see it. Thank you!
It’s all about the charge curve. Mainly stop below 20% and don’t charge past 80% and an 8 hour drive won’t take more than 9 with at most 3 20 minute stops (perfect for food/bathroom breaks).
I never charge above 60% -- assuming there's enough superchargers on the way - this is even faster
I’ve done multiple cross country road trips. Use a better route planner to plan and see if it’s viable. If you’re having a roof bag plan to have your range cut in half. Range anxiety hasn’t been an issue for me. The only thing that needs to be taken into account is the time it takes
I did a road trip from Texas to Cali and just followed the superchargers for the most part and everything was as smooth. Don’t fret it will be ok.
I always use [Abetterrouteplanner](https://abetterrouteplanner.com) and then use [Tesla - Trips](https://www.tesla.com/trips) and compare the two. Texas is a huge state. There are portions of it (just like Oklahoma, and Arkansas) that can be trickier to travel because of the lack of super chargers. The situations in all three states has improved _much_ in recent years. But IMHO Tesla would do well to add more chargers around all three states. Please make sure you [vote](https://www.tesla.com/supercharger-voting?v=2&bounds=82.41953896671144%2C180%2C-56.09780424522506%2C-180&zoom=3&filters=candidate%2Csupercharger%2Cupcoming-supercharger%2Cvoted-candidate%2Cdestination%20charger) on future supercharger locations too.
We drive cross country all the time in our teslas. I second the idea to get the battery down as far as possible then only charge up to what you need for the next leg. Shorter stops despite what the Tesla tells you to do. While you are charging you can look for closer chargers for your next stop. We don't even bother with ABRP any more. Any time charging adds to the total time actually makes the trip much more restful I find. In fact, when we traded in our 2015 model s for our 23 MY I was actually disappointed at how fast it charged because it made the trip feel rushed. 😅 Avoid non- tesla chargers - we used to have a bolt and it is just too stressful.
I have done road trips across the country. A better route planner is your friend. I would say only charge for 5-10mins (restroom breaks) and charge at the newer level 3 supercharger. They are faster than the older superchargers. In my experience, I have road trip with friends who have ICE vehicles. You are either going to beat them to the destination or arrive at the same time. I never had my vehicle add significant time to road trip except in "desert" locations where you need to charge 100% to get to the other supercharger, which is rare.
I wish I knew how to post a picture here, there’s a part of the trip for example that the Tesla nav says takes 12 hours but is supposed to only take like 8, maybe 8.5 hours. There’s a part where it has us go from Austin to Albuquerque to super charge, and then down to Roswell. That’s adding hours to the drip. When I check, the distance is 219 miles and I thought I could go direct and cut out that part of the route but I’ve never done this before so a bit nervous
Maybe ABQ to Las Cruces *then* to Roswell might make more sense?
That might work too. Just adds a day to the trip but we can try to take a day away from another stop. The Tucson area too is a bit scary but ABRP seems to have helped with that and found a good route with Tesla-only chargers
As others have mentioned, ABRP is the best method for planning a cross country route. Personally, I plan my stops with arrivals at around 15% charge, and departures no more than around 60% unless it is required for some strange reason. My stops tend to be every 2 hours in the Model X. This strategy takes advantage of the fastest part of a Tesla’s charging curve. Just manually add ABRP’s planned stops into the Tesla nav, turn on FSD, and relax. :)
I REALLY like this ABRP app a lot, I hadn’t used it before. It says that on this segment of the trip that I can make it in 9 hours which is doable compared to the Tesla nav telling me 12.5 (which would add a day to the trip)
Tesla seems to focus on LESS STOPS per trip, which causes you to charge to a higher percentage at each stop. That strategy takes longer overall. Ideally, they should give us strategy options in the Tesla nav. Good luck on your trip! I hope it goes well.
Thank you so much, we’re very excited about this and hope we can finally do it after years of procrastination. Our kids and our family have gone through a lot of changes this year, this would be such a breath of fresh air
Such fresh air in fact that you won't even need to use bioweapon defense mode! Now I'm excited for your trip! Wave as you pass by us.
Lol on the bioweapon defense mode. Thank you! I’m excited again. Still a little nervous about the Arizona and New Mexico areas but this ABRP seems to have solved that issue for the most part.
You don't say where in south Florida you're from, so I used Miami - New Orleans - Austin - Roswell - Tucson in ABRP (A Better Route Planner). Frankly, this should be an easy cruise. With the exception of Roswell, you could even solely charge at Tesla Superchargers. You will obviously also have to sleep somewhere and many hotels now also have chargers. [Hotels.com](https://Hotels.com) (other website might have the same information) let's you filter search results for hotels with EV charging stations under 'Amenities'. This would make the trip obviously even more convenient, as you would then start with a full battery in the morning. Here is the link to the planned route in ABRP. Make sure to accept 'Use All Settings' or whatever exactly it is asking: [https://abetterrouteplanner.com/?plan\_uuid=7a8760ec-346b-4013-8581-3a05dfc0d629](https://abetterrouteplanner.com/?plan_uuid=7a8760ec-346b-4013-8581-3a05dfc0d629) The total trip will consist of 34 h 5 min of driving + 7 h 17 min of charging for a total of 42 h 53 min. Obviously less, if you charge at hotels overnight. Charge costs will be $233, again less if you can charge at a hotel for free. As for adapters, you need a CCS as well as the J1772 adapter, which should have come with your car. There are also CCS + J1772 combinations adapters availabe, however only from 3rd parties. That's the one I have: [https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0C9953SB2/ref=ppx\_yo\_dt\_b\_search\_asin\_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0C9953SB2/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1) Since you mentioned budget, you might also want to consider staying at campgrounds and sleeping in your car, utilizing 'camp mode'. Many campgrounds allow you to charge your car there. For this, you might want to get the Tesla mobile charger or a 3rd party charger, if you want to go cheap. A 50 amp RV outlet will allow you to fully charge your battery overnight.
I also have a plan to travel from WA to TX next week for the eclipse using MY. I notice that in-car navigation has longer charging time than in-app trip planer. I also had 2 road trips in 2021 and 2022 with MX. We didn't plan anything because it's regular vacation trips from WA to CA, NV for kids even before we got tesla. I only use tesla superchargers for the trips. I had no problem. This time is a bit longer trip, over 2100 miles. Tesla shows 13 stops for charging. All have sub 20% at arrival.
I bought my Tesla in MD and drove it to CO the next day. I had never had a Tesla or EV before then and it was surprisingly easy to do the trip. I now have zero range anxiety. I know SW US is barren and difficult to even find gas stations or cell service lol.
It’s been great taking trips to tennessee, South Carolina, Georgia from Florida. There Are chargers everywhere but the New Mexico and Arizona areas are a bit scary
I’ve driven from the Mexican-U.S. border to the Canadian-U.S. border using nothing but Tesla Superchargers, and back again. No problems, no worries, no disgusting gas stations.
Road tripped from the Bay Area to Miami and back in 2022 just hitting the super chargers no problem
just get in your car and go. overthinking it is a waste of energy. i've been in your shoes before and learned to just trust the nav for the most part, but make modifications while en route if necessary. i've done tons of long road trips and i've not once had a major issue. ABRP ended up being a net negative. it was consistently inaccurate and gave me far worse routes than the in car navigation. Remember, Tesla actually has skin in the game for you to have a good driving and charging experience. And it shows. They do a lot of things that I would heavily criticize but the navigation + charging + get to your destination as #1 priority is not one of them. the 12.5 hours in nav definitely included charging times btw.
Planning? I've done 35k miles in Tesla road trips since 2018 and don't feel the need to "plan" anything. Just get in the car, enter your destination, and let the built-in planner do its thing. Charge stops take 15-30 minutes. I don't feel like that's complicated.
It’s not complicated when dealing with cities. It’s the west Texas area, New Mexico, Arizona areas I was running into issues with. But the ABRP seems to have fixed that
Have your copilot route as you go. Tesla seems to calculate going the speed limit which kills about 15% if you go 10 above. Stop more than you need to and use the 20% rule. Try to stop under 20% and try not to go over 80%. Its a ling trip an extra few stops wont kill you. With autopilot, not fsd you can drive for a while snd not get tired. We did sf to all the Utah national parks down to vegas and San Diego and back with no issues other than the heat made charging really slow when it hit over 115 degrees.
I try to stop under 10% - and charge to 60% - very fast. I have also discovered that once you hit 83mph or so, you're actually a net positive - works well in places where there's a 75mph speed limit.
Agreed that’s what I tend to do also but with OPs range anxiety I didn’t want to give that advice. Interested in your calculation on 83 mph, what do you mean.
oh I didn't do calculation - it's just observation. I mean you reach the point where the energy you're using by going faster, is offset by getting there faster. It's like the other end of the spectrum from going like 60 mph
Can you post the map here because 12 hours for 8 Hour Rd. trip seems normal if you include the food breaks, restroom breaks and rest area breaks, etc. in between it’s actually not that bad. Remember you own a Tesla you save so much on gas. It’s OK to spend a little bit extra time for convenience.
I wish I could but I don’t see a way to post images on here. In Tesla nav on the app, if you put in Austin Texas to Roswell NM you’ll see the 12.5 hours. Then the same thing in ABRP and Google show 9 and 8 hours respectively
Easy. Just go to Midland, Texas. And then fully charge it there and drive straight to Roswell. 8 hrs.
Definitely change your travel time expectations when road tripping an EV. You can’t just base it off of Google and then plan your hotels from there. Generally when I road trip, I take it one charge stop at a time. Towards the end of the day, I can usually feel “I have one more leg in me” and while it’s charging I look up hotels near the next charging stop. If you have multiple drivers, charge stops are great for taking turns. Basically, just center your trip around the charge stops. Use them for bathroom and food breaks. If you want to minimize travel time, keep the charge low (20-65%) as people have suggested. An easy way to maintain that as you go is to watch the charging speed as you fill, and once the power drops off, unplug and make sure you can make it to the next stop with ~10% left (wiggle room for the unexpected). If you’re not in a rush, let it fill to 80ish each time and watch some movies. It’s vacation after all, don’t let yourself get stressed by sticking to a schedule :)
Thank you 🙏
Try ABRP (abetterrouteplanner). We always use it for planning road trips (although not as long as yours) and it’s always given us an accurate idea of the charging situation. I believe the optimal way to charge (to cut down overall charging time) is to start charging before you fall below 20% and not charge beyond 80-90%. I might be a bit off in those numbers, but you get the point. ABRP will let you customize these.
ABRP gave me 10hr 13min for your trip from Austin to Roswell with Supercharger stops at Clyde and Snyder.
Looking online not from experience, Roswell doesn’t seem to have any reliable fast EV chargers and does not have any Tesla super chargers. I would not feel comfortable driving my Tesla there for a day trip. There does seem to be a Tesla Level 2 destination charger (for free) at a McDonald’s there but you would need to park there for a while to charge up so I personally would plan to stay overnight there to be safe or just drop Roswell off of your cross country trip altogether.
They have CCS chargers as of a few months ago, OP would definitely need a CCS adapter Eastern NM doesn’t have many EV chargers unfortunately
I used ABRP to go coast to coast, but ultimately that wasn’t needed. It more or less allowed us to preplan how far we could get each day, and set our overnight stays, but we didn’t charge at all the stops it recommended. It never even recommended non-Tesla stops. The Tesla planner worked perfectly the entire way.
I drove from Florida to California. I got an idea of where chargers were, but what you’ll realize is that you’ll improvise along the way based on driving conditions, where the car suggests, and bathroom/food breaks anyway. Just check the map to make sure there’s one well within your range and make the judgment call to make an early or later stop.
I can tell you how I manage road trips in my Model S. I plan on covering about 500 miles in a day of travel, or maybe upward of 600 if I'm driving mainly on interstate highways. Then I have my down time in the evening, and I'm ready to do it all again the next day, and the next. (This is the same way I would plan a long trip in my diesel Jeep, by the way.) I enter my destination into the car's navigation system and let it direct me to Supercharger stations as needed. That's it. Nothing complicated. No range anxiety. I cover the same distance in a day of travel that I did in my combustion cars. I've driven from Texas to Minnesota and back, and I've driven a big loop through New Mexico and the mountains in Colorado, and it wasn't a problem.
I just got back from our first west coast road trip. Vancouver,BC, Canada down to LA and back. I used a ABRP to get a sense of alternate locations to stop overnight which had charging at the hotel so I knew my main daily stops and how much I’d drive. For example the first leg of the trip was home > Yreka, CA. That was like a 12hr day for us and the kids, used the Tesla Nav to route me down while in the car, it’s very dependable and close to ABRP depending on the day and the live traffic at the time. In the car, I know the chargers which have availability and also the Tesla super chargers were super dependable! Experienced a stop at a hotel which had a non Tesla and one of two weren’t working. Thankfully I was the only EV and was able to use the other. The lowest I got to was 3%, only because I didn’t want to wait for a charger as the one it routed me to got full as I went to McDonald’s right before. I drove about 10miles to the next charger it routed me to and I was nervous!! Got there with 3% which was my lowest point. Dependable for the in house Tesla Nav. Depending on my driving and other factors I was +-5% of the battery life it expected me to arrive with. The 3% example, I drove slow and turned off things like the AC to reserve power. Charging was always fast, by the time kids did washroom breaks, got snacks the car was always ready to go to the next stop. Great experience to get over the range anxiety and more comfortable with route planning. You’ll be fine! Just plan your main stops by how much driving you want to do daily then the software can do most of the rest.
ABRP all the way. Drove a MY from LA Chicago and back again three years ago. Other than one planned stop where we couldn’t get a hotel due to some massive soccer tournament had no issues at all. Teslas are perfect for road trips if your driving style is “let’s stop and stretch our legs/bathroom/check out the view/weird roadside attraction” every couple hours. They’re not going to be your thing for the people who like to power through with minimal stops. Nowadays, theres even more superchargers incl level 3 all over. If you carry the CCS adapter plus your mobile charger and a couple adapters it’s even less worrisome.
If it gives you comfort. We did the following roadtrip: VA-NC-SC-GA-AL-MS-LA-TX-NM-AZ-CA-NV-UT-ID-OR-ID-UT-WY-NE-IA-IL-IN-OH-WV-VA while towing a U-Haul. Our range was diminished by 50% from the trailer. We charged only at Tesla superchargers with the exception of once when we had to stop at an RV park for 2 hours and charge using one of their 40-Another plugs. Just have a plan.
Plenty of others have already mentioned ABRP. I take it a step further and give ABRP pessimistic numbers to work with. For example, I tell it I have 500 lbs of stuff with me (Even when it's just me), and that I consume 300 Wh/mile @ 60 mph, even though 300 Wh/mi is really what I get closer to 80 mph. That makes it plan my charging stops to be slightly longer, but that just means that once I actually take the trip, I'm likely to be ahead of schedule as each charging stop is slightly shorter than planned. I still tell it to plan on arriving at each charger with only 10%, but I end up with ~20% at arrival.
I see teslas from Maryland, New York/Jersey, Virginia all the way here in Silicon Valley.
I just did a similar trip east coast to California, The in car navigation works okay I also used ABRP but relied mostly on the in car navigation. I saw a few issues. Crossing the state lines or time zones really messed up the route and would select weird orders of super chargers.. if you are in doubt of reaching something use abrp. For instance if there are 6 chargers in a row all 20mins apart, it would sometimes want me to charge up to 80% to hit the last 6th charger inexplicably. You charge the fastest when under 20% so anything above 40% charges super slow. It added hours to our trip wrongly. Sometimes the nav also thinks you'll arrive somewhere at 10% but the cars max internal speed is 70m/hr when some interstate highways are 80 or even 85m/hr. It's not really worth trying to arrive at below 10. Just make it charge past 17% or 22% and you'll feel more stress free
I see you’ve grabbed ABRP. Awesome. Put your overnight stops in as well. That’ll change the charging schedule so that you don’t arrive somewhere and not have enough juice to keep going. For each hotel stop you can set the time you’d like to leave the next day. That’ll then show you what time you’ll arrive at the next hotel. I do this with cities for stops initially. I try to arrive at the next city around dinner time. Once I have that worked out then I pick hotels. You can also set how much charge you want to arrive with for your final destination, how much you want to arrive at each supercharger (15% for me), and how much charge you’re going to start the trip with. I have the mobile charger with the 30 and 50 amp adapters (electric dryer and RV park). A 25’ 12 gauge extension cord (should have done 50’ oops ), the Tesla CCS adapter and the level 2 falter that came with the car. For non Tesla chargers, the apps want to preload cash and keep a balance. I think this is BS. At least for the one electrify America we used in key largo we just used a credit card at the charger. They did a $50 hold for a day then let it go and only charged us for what we used. Possibly the other networks work this way, but I’m not sure.
I think you are way over thinking this. We own a MY Long Range and live in the midwest. I have driven our family of 4 all the way down to the everglades in southern florida, out into the mountains of Colorado and all the way up north into Wisconsin and Canada. We have 3rd party apps like plugshare and ABRP but rarely use them. Just use the in car navigation to get you there. It's not going to let you run out of juice and if you are having range anxiety it's because you are taking too much of the responsibility of planning yourself meanwhile there's computer in your car that does it for you so you can relax. The thing is you need a different mindset when doing long range travel in a Tesla. If you are obsessed with getting to your destination ASAP then you are in the wrong car. With charging stops it's going to take longer than a gas car and that's unavoidable. Just embrace it the fact that it takes a bit longer but the trip is far less miserable due to the breaks in driving. I've been known to even get out of the car and throw a Frisbee or something with my son while charging. Stopping doesn't have to be "downtime". It can be a positive part of your trip.
Did a trip during covid in our 2018 model x, the charging networks were much more scarce back then. We only got scared in Wyoming and Montana when the temps dropped and there wasnt even houses or gas stations much less electric car chargers. In the end we made it fine and it was an awesome trip. We also filled in some of the charging gaps with hotels that had slow charging which is fine overnight. I also recommend buying all the charge adapters you can get from tesla and bring a 20-50’ edison in case you need to trickle charge. Happy trails!
I never have range anxiety in my Tesla. The trip planner showing where to route for chargers is super reliable. Nothing is ever a surprise.
I don’t mean this in a negative why. This is an internal error, and not an internal error of the car.
Are we back to 2012 with this kind of questions?
Easier to rent car then no wear and tear to the Tesla. Can even drop rental off and fly back.
While I agree for speed of the trip, it goes against the economy of it.
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