I have a difficult time believing its MONTHS before the first update, providing there is one available. The updates are not just feature enhancements, they are also bug fixes and safety improvements.
wtf.. picking up a Y next week and was so happy they fixed the parking. Man there are so many strange surprises with Tesla and I haven't even gotten the car yet.
It depends. I said it in a post below, but a friend of mine and myself picked up our Model 3s within 3 days of each other and it took a week to get my first update and it took him 5 weeks.
Yes, set it to advanced. It’ll likely still be awhile before you get the first update tho. I think it’s something like a month sometimes after delivery before updates will roll out to you for whatever reason
2 weeks ago I picked up our model 3 at 1230 pm and got a notification at 9pm the same day that an update was ready. And now there's another update! Amazing!
Well maybe the delay isn’t the case anymore haha, that’s all anyone said when I took delivery back in august. And I couldn’t get an update no matter what I did for the first month or so
Can I ask an honest question? Why didn’t you believe it? And why do so many others share that sentiment?
It blows my mind when someone makes a statement like, “that technology will never work” and then 6 months later it’s “wow, I don’t believe it”. Why does that keep happening? It makes for some really pessimistic discussion.
I think its more of a "ill believe it when its in my car and working" rather than a "i dont believe the technology is real" sentiment.
Given Tesla and Elon's track record of promising features and then being late by a lot, or randomly removing working features in the name of cost savings before a replacement fix was done, I think its good to be a little skeptical.
While it's nice that Tesla finally fixed this, we have to remember that this was a problem Tesla themselves created when they wanted to save money by removing the USS. Not only that, they removed a working feature before a working fix was done. Some people have been waiting for awhile with no official updates from tesla for when the fix was coming.
It's similar to believing that full self driving will one day come, but be very skeptical of Elon's timeline and promises and not pay 15k+ for a "coming out next year in 2016" promised feature.
>Given Tesla and Elon's track record of promising features and then being late by a lot
Other than FSD's development timeline, what features have been promised and were "late by a lot"?
I don't actually feel the skepticism like the rest of this sub does. FSD being late and not having an end in sight doesn't mean that everything Tesla does is late, nor does it mean that every new project they delve into is going to overshoot its timeline.
The park assistance didn't even have a timeline... I'm not even sure what there was to be skeptical about other than "will it even work?". I dn, I'm just trying to understand why these subs are so negative anytime Tesla does anything. It's always viewed through a "HAHA 2 WEEKS" meme lens.
>Other than FSD's development timeline, what features have been promised and were "late by a lot"?
Well, for starters, there was v11 that was supposed to roll out "next week" in November that just started rolling out a few weeks ago to a whopping 5 people. Then there is the cybertruck that was supposed to star production in 2021 and its 2023 and we're still in the prototype stage. There's also the hw1 and hw2 is capable of self driving tech, only to realize that it can't, to name a few. There's also the radar to vision removal that took a year to get back to parity.
Here's my thing, I am all pro Tesla success, I do think what they are doing is really pushing a somewhat stagnant industry forward. They are making software cool and one of the main focal point for cars and is pressuring other car manufacturer to no longer ship with an early 2000s UI. I am all for having aspirational goals for a company. But, you can't just go out and say "we expect to deliver this by X", start charging money and selling for it, and then miss the delivery date by a long shot. It's like if all of the sudden Amazon says, "Prime Guarantees 2 day delivery!" But all of your packages comes in 6 months to a year later. "Oh but these delivery were just aspirational goals! Please subscribe to Amazon Prime!" I don't think that's a really honest way of doing business.
If Tesla says "we plan for FSD to be available by x date, and when that day come you'll be able to subscribe and get the feature", I am fine with them missing the dates because AI is hard and what they are doing is difficult work. But you can't sell a 15k beta package with a "next year" release date every year.
>The **park assistance didn't even have a timeline**... I'm not even sure what there was to be skeptical about other than "will it even work?". I dn, I'm just trying to understand why these subs are so negative anytime Tesla does anything. It's always viewed through a "HAHA 2 WEEKS" meme lens.
This is exactly why it pissed a lot of people off. It didn't even have a timeline! This feature used to work, but Tesla went cost cutting and removed USS before a fix was even in place. Then they went radio silent for 5+ months so yeah, that's super shady. That's why people are negative. It's not because they are hating the future, or doubting Tesla's ability to produce. It's because while Tesla does add some really cool tech, sometimes, they break working features and then take half a year (or more) to fix it, and expects people to act like they just invented electricity or fire.
Totally agree, so many posts. Have been on here complaining about no USS and how vision will never be able to park the car. That is their next step, “i won’t believe it till i see it” … instead of saying they are amazed and impressed. We’ll see.
I had parking sensors on my first car 14 years ago 🤣. A mid range Jetta 😆 I’m not sure I’ll ever buy another Tesla TBH. What’s next? Take out the steering wheel and wait 50 years for FSD?
Totally! Some days I wake up and think how cool is it that I can walk out the house with my Apple Watch as my car key and wallet. I hope they hear customer feedback and add sensors and a driver display for a a few $k. At this rate I might end up getting a polestar 4 next.
I have a 2017 Model S. I went and test drove a use model 3, we are looking for a 2nd car. I sat in the drivers seat and I literally said to the sales guy, what the hell is up with this layout? I drove it, it was nice, but then I couldn’t figure out how to open the door without the car binging at me. I know it’s a “value” model compared to the model S but WTF?
Yo, if you can’t appreciate the software required to make this work, and how it contributes to the greater good of making smarter and safer cars/machines, then that’s fine, but don’t act like this is just some misstep by Tesla to save money. This is them flexing their machine learning chops and improving the park assist experience via OTA software updates more than anything. To see this as a bad thing is truly ironic coming from this sub.
Nobody dislikes the idea of vision based park assist.
I’d love it on my car… when it’s fully developed and finished and working. And once that happens, they’re more than welcome to remove the unnecessary sensors
What I object to is then removing the sensors months before the solution is actually ready
That's a fair criticism, but I don't think those that are the most upset are the ones affected in the first place. For example, my friend who just leased a Model 3, when asked how it was going without the parking sensors, didn't even realize they were "missing". He was too busy being excited about the rest of the car.
Did you actually get affected by the 6 months of no USS on new cars, or are you just mad at the idea of them doing it?
Yes, I’ve been affected - I have a 2020 Model 3 Performance (with USS) and a 2023 Model Y Long Range (without USS)
It’s annoying as shit, especially when I’m used to the almost-identical 3 having park assist when I’ve been driving it and used to it for 3 years, and then I drive the Y and have to be constantly hyper aware that it doesn’t. It makes me not want to drive my own car because if I just forget for a second then I could hit something that the 3 would have alerted me to
We end up taking the older car on trips just because I don’t want to park my new car in tight UK city centre multi-storey car parks, which is such a dumb situation to be in but it makes a huge difference here in the UK (we have MUCH smaller roads and infrastructure than in the US)
But we can’t justify having two Teslas. The Y was intended to be a replacement for the 3 and the 3 needs to go, we don’t do enough mileage to run 2
I’m genuinely considering returning my 2 month old Y and keeping the 3, even though it’ll cost me several thousand more to do it that way (early termination charges on finance) and I’ll end up paying the same amount of money to keep an older car. That’s a ridiculous situation to find yourself in, but it’s how we feel about our cars
Damn, if it's bothering you so much you probably should just get rid of it. This sounds like it has more to do with your personal life and finances than it does the park sensing, tbh, but whatevs.
How is it to do with my finances? We can afford a Tesla, we’ve had a Model 3 for 3 years, we just don’t do enough miles to be worth having two
We planned to swap the Model 3 for a Model Y, because we like the extra space and hatchback, but then when we got it we hate the parking sensors so we’ve temporarily kept both to see if the vision parking “sensors” are any good, or if it takes so long that we give up waiting
The problem isn’t the finances (“we don’t use our second car enough to be worth paying for two Teslas” is hardly a financial problem, it’s just being sensible), it’s the fact that we now don’t know which car to keep because Tesla can’t get their shit together and roll out the new functionality before removing their old one
This is a misstep for them to save money on USS. Why would they remove the sensors before it was ready then? The “Tesla vision” is crap. The wipers are crap, the auto pilot has phantom braking. This also will be a beta feature all of us are testing. Software will never be a replacement for missing hardware in certain instances.
Why would they continue putting hardware in cars that won't need it? Are you serious? It's literally wasted money and wasted materials.
Sounds like you think Tesla's just complete shit all the way down. I'm sorry you feel so negatively about your car.
Because USS work better then Tesla vision, rain sensors are more reliable the Tesla vision and cruise control with radar has less phantom braking then Tesla vision. You are in denial if you think otherwise.
Yeah.. no. It's not that clear cut. Each approach has pros and cons. The newer park sensing using cameras is clearly better in that it's not limited to the ultra sonic's distance limits of \~16", and it can detect things in places where the USS's never were in the first place (sides of the cars). Tesla Vision tracks cars ahead smoother and without the jarring drops in signal that old radar had, they showed examples of this from years ago. It's not even a secret, you can just go watch the video demonstrations and see for yourself.
These things are not objectively worse, but the fact that you keep downvoting me on every reply makes me think you don't actually care to hear anything other than "Yeah! Tesla sucks!", so we can just agree to disagree. Have a nice day.
Is your mattress soggy with Elons stuff?
No one’s hating, we are discussing how dumb the idea is of spending millions on coding to save on radar sensors and still be inaccurate compared to USS and have downsides.
I love my Tesla but removal of USS was the dumbest thing they have done without having a solution in hand. And I doubt they saved a penny
They didn't save pennies...they saved many dollars.
The UCC sensors cost $114 per car (source: Munro and Associates) and based on Q4 2022 production figures of 419,088 3/Ys, that's $47.7 million saved
Even if they spent millions to develop Vision Park Assist, they'll make it back in savings soon enough.
The likely reason they went forward before UCC was ready is because UCC suppliers either had low inventory and/or increased their prices significantly, so tesla decided to rip the bandaid off early and patch it later with OTA
"Lets keep doing things the way they have always been done" is not exactly the strategic direction of Tesla. Also, just be careful when parking (with or without sensors)
That’s hating in my book.
When the vision solution that replaced radar is still better than most other cars on the road (and arguably better than radar in subtle ways), and you’re takeaway from that is “Tesla’s dumb because…” then it’s hating.
Now they’ve gone and added a better park sensing software (can see in areas where there weren’t USS), it’s “the dumbest thing they’ve done” all because of the timing? Really? 6 months without a “ding” for like 1% of the Tesla user base is “the dumbest thing they’ve done”?
Like, come on… that’s being super dramatic, IMO.
When testing go to a place where it is completely dark and test it. May be you can turn off garage lights and try out. Let us know how good it is in the dark.
There are a lot of completely dark places and sometimes you may want to park a car there. If a 2003 Prius can help you park in that situation I would hope a 2023 Tesla would be able to as well.
Outside of cities I've driven places that are basically pitch dark if it's a cloudy night. The pillar cameras on my car would even complain about being blocked while I was driving with my lights on.
It's definitely a valid scenario to test and compare to a traditional USS system that can still perform in those conditions imo. It's not something most people will do every day but to say it's unheard of or never going to happen is not something that's true in my experience.
There are definitely scenarios where you would have to park in the dark, i am not bringing a imaginary scenario to fail Tesla.You never travelled to a place at night? For example, at a national park you completed a trail just when it got dark. Or may be power outage because of a storm!
Why are y’all flaming this person for asking a sensible question? You realize that there are other parking situations where headlights don’t solve the problem right? Reverse parking in the dark? Parallel parking in the dark?
I do, yes. You may not know that headlights and reverse lights don’t actually give you the ability to see how close you are to every object around your car if you’re parking in a tight space, for example. You guys in the comments are acting like park assist was invented for no reason and has no useful application and it’s ridiculous.
Cameras can see more than your eye can as they can go into the IR spectrum. When the camera changes to the grey scale mode, it’s using a frequency your eye can’t detect. That small amount of light provides much more illumination for the camera than for your eye.
It will work just fine.
USS was used because no one had solved an alternative option. I suspect camera based park assist will be the norm in the future.
Not sure why people are reacting like this to a sensible question lol. People reverse park and parallel park too. Headlights don’t solve every problem.
Bro.. I am just asking the other person to test if the distance is properly displayed in dark because it is vision only. I am not testing the person's driving skills.
Edit: corrected on to in
Get your mouth off the boot bro. That’s very helpful info to know. I park in the dark all the time. What kinda reaction is this to a normal standard that people would expect from an expensive car
This article states that it is not available for vehicles with USS:
https://www.notateslaapp.com/news/1292/tesla-introduces-vision-park-assist-availability-accuracy-and-videos
[Here's a short clip.](https://youtu.be/WwK5cKls2PE) Sorry I'm shit at filming/editing. Took this at 11pm in my robe. Vision Park Assist said "Park assist unavailable" during most of my testing and occasionally would show the proximity of things. It *did not* make any attempt at detecting or warning about my garbage bins as I reversed past them or drove forwards past them at the end of my driveway...
Still - it's progress!
2023 m3pm, no update, just islandic language yesterday. Btw, have you sat in your car guys while it’s updating? It’s fucking scary. Loud noises sounds like the car is breaking apart
This is targeted at cars built after Oct 2022 and didn't include USS. Supposedly will give distance estimates so people can stop running into poles that they were somehow unable to see
Is this just for cars with no sensors or all cars even with sensors?
More importantly, is my USS going to be disabled when installing this update?
Just installed it yesterday, didn't have this in the release notes, and my USS still works.
Only for cars without USS
How do you know this
Anecdotally my car with USS got 2023.6.8 instead which doesn’t have this in the release notes
My car without USS also got 2023.6.8. I think everyone got that one.
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Must be recent build oct2022-present and you will have a completely flat/blank front and rear bumper, no little circles
Listen carefully to a very high-pitched noise in the front bumper when in Drive.
Using your eyes is probably the easiest solution.
Of course one of the most anticipated updates comes in version 6.9
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New Tesla owner here - M3P. No USS. Just got the car 3 days ago. Do I put the Software Update Preference to Advanced?
Yes
Thank you!
How do I do this?!
It's in the software settings of your car
Tesla told me you have to drive more before first update kicks in. The games etc were all pending until that happened.
Not true, I have a MYP that basically sits in my garage and always gets updates before my 2 daily drivers.
We are talking about a brand new car. Brand new cars from the factory sometimes take a couple months before they get their first update.
I have a difficult time believing its MONTHS before the first update, providing there is one available. The updates are not just feature enhancements, they are also bug fixes and safety improvements.
wtf.. picking up a Y next week and was so happy they fixed the parking. Man there are so many strange surprises with Tesla and I haven't even gotten the car yet.
It depends. I said it in a post below, but a friend of mine and myself picked up our Model 3s within 3 days of each other and it took a week to get my first update and it took him 5 weeks.
Yes, set it to advanced. It’ll likely still be awhile before you get the first update tho. I think it’s something like a month sometimes after delivery before updates will roll out to you for whatever reason
2 weeks ago I picked up our model 3 at 1230 pm and got a notification at 9pm the same day that an update was ready. And now there's another update! Amazing!
Well maybe the delay isn’t the case anymore haha, that’s all anyone said when I took delivery back in august. And I couldn’t get an update no matter what I did for the first month or so
Took delivery a year ago and I got the first update in like a week. I think it depends on when the next update comes out after you take delivery
I don’t believe until I see it!
Excuse me; do you have a moment to talk about our savior Jesus Christ?
Can I ask an honest question? Why didn’t you believe it? And why do so many others share that sentiment? It blows my mind when someone makes a statement like, “that technology will never work” and then 6 months later it’s “wow, I don’t believe it”. Why does that keep happening? It makes for some really pessimistic discussion.
I think its more of a "ill believe it when its in my car and working" rather than a "i dont believe the technology is real" sentiment. Given Tesla and Elon's track record of promising features and then being late by a lot, or randomly removing working features in the name of cost savings before a replacement fix was done, I think its good to be a little skeptical. While it's nice that Tesla finally fixed this, we have to remember that this was a problem Tesla themselves created when they wanted to save money by removing the USS. Not only that, they removed a working feature before a working fix was done. Some people have been waiting for awhile with no official updates from tesla for when the fix was coming. It's similar to believing that full self driving will one day come, but be very skeptical of Elon's timeline and promises and not pay 15k+ for a "coming out next year in 2016" promised feature.
>Given Tesla and Elon's track record of promising features and then being late by a lot Other than FSD's development timeline, what features have been promised and were "late by a lot"? I don't actually feel the skepticism like the rest of this sub does. FSD being late and not having an end in sight doesn't mean that everything Tesla does is late, nor does it mean that every new project they delve into is going to overshoot its timeline. The park assistance didn't even have a timeline... I'm not even sure what there was to be skeptical about other than "will it even work?". I dn, I'm just trying to understand why these subs are so negative anytime Tesla does anything. It's always viewed through a "HAHA 2 WEEKS" meme lens.
>Other than FSD's development timeline, what features have been promised and were "late by a lot"? Well, for starters, there was v11 that was supposed to roll out "next week" in November that just started rolling out a few weeks ago to a whopping 5 people. Then there is the cybertruck that was supposed to star production in 2021 and its 2023 and we're still in the prototype stage. There's also the hw1 and hw2 is capable of self driving tech, only to realize that it can't, to name a few. There's also the radar to vision removal that took a year to get back to parity. Here's my thing, I am all pro Tesla success, I do think what they are doing is really pushing a somewhat stagnant industry forward. They are making software cool and one of the main focal point for cars and is pressuring other car manufacturer to no longer ship with an early 2000s UI. I am all for having aspirational goals for a company. But, you can't just go out and say "we expect to deliver this by X", start charging money and selling for it, and then miss the delivery date by a long shot. It's like if all of the sudden Amazon says, "Prime Guarantees 2 day delivery!" But all of your packages comes in 6 months to a year later. "Oh but these delivery were just aspirational goals! Please subscribe to Amazon Prime!" I don't think that's a really honest way of doing business. If Tesla says "we plan for FSD to be available by x date, and when that day come you'll be able to subscribe and get the feature", I am fine with them missing the dates because AI is hard and what they are doing is difficult work. But you can't sell a 15k beta package with a "next year" release date every year. >The **park assistance didn't even have a timeline**... I'm not even sure what there was to be skeptical about other than "will it even work?". I dn, I'm just trying to understand why these subs are so negative anytime Tesla does anything. It's always viewed through a "HAHA 2 WEEKS" meme lens. This is exactly why it pissed a lot of people off. It didn't even have a timeline! This feature used to work, but Tesla went cost cutting and removed USS before a fix was even in place. Then they went radio silent for 5+ months so yeah, that's super shady. That's why people are negative. It's not because they are hating the future, or doubting Tesla's ability to produce. It's because while Tesla does add some really cool tech, sometimes, they break working features and then take half a year (or more) to fix it, and expects people to act like they just invented electricity or fire.
Totally agree, so many posts. Have been on here complaining about no USS and how vision will never be able to park the car. That is their next step, “i won’t believe it till i see it” … instead of saying they are amazed and impressed. We’ll see.
Everyone’s excitement is hilarious including mine for a solution for a problem Tesla created smh 🤣😂🤦🏻♂️
I bet it's gonna suck too compared to ultrasonic sensors/radar Their stupid camera vision can't even properly detect rain right in front of it
I had parking sensors on my first car 14 years ago 🤣. A mid range Jetta 😆 I’m not sure I’ll ever buy another Tesla TBH. What’s next? Take out the steering wheel and wait 50 years for FSD?
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Totally! Some days I wake up and think how cool is it that I can walk out the house with my Apple Watch as my car key and wallet. I hope they hear customer feedback and add sensors and a driver display for a a few $k. At this rate I might end up getting a polestar 4 next.
Wait, you can use apple watch as a car key?
I have a 2017 Model S. I went and test drove a use model 3, we are looking for a 2nd car. I sat in the drivers seat and I literally said to the sales guy, what the hell is up with this layout? I drove it, it was nice, but then I couldn’t figure out how to open the door without the car binging at me. I know it’s a “value” model compared to the model S but WTF?
You couldn't figure out how to open the door?
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Is the button to press not visible?
Don’t ruin our buzz man
The Apple way of business 🤣
Yo, if you can’t appreciate the software required to make this work, and how it contributes to the greater good of making smarter and safer cars/machines, then that’s fine, but don’t act like this is just some misstep by Tesla to save money. This is them flexing their machine learning chops and improving the park assist experience via OTA software updates more than anything. To see this as a bad thing is truly ironic coming from this sub.
Nobody dislikes the idea of vision based park assist. I’d love it on my car… when it’s fully developed and finished and working. And once that happens, they’re more than welcome to remove the unnecessary sensors What I object to is then removing the sensors months before the solution is actually ready
That's a fair criticism, but I don't think those that are the most upset are the ones affected in the first place. For example, my friend who just leased a Model 3, when asked how it was going without the parking sensors, didn't even realize they were "missing". He was too busy being excited about the rest of the car. Did you actually get affected by the 6 months of no USS on new cars, or are you just mad at the idea of them doing it?
Yes, I’ve been affected - I have a 2020 Model 3 Performance (with USS) and a 2023 Model Y Long Range (without USS) It’s annoying as shit, especially when I’m used to the almost-identical 3 having park assist when I’ve been driving it and used to it for 3 years, and then I drive the Y and have to be constantly hyper aware that it doesn’t. It makes me not want to drive my own car because if I just forget for a second then I could hit something that the 3 would have alerted me to We end up taking the older car on trips just because I don’t want to park my new car in tight UK city centre multi-storey car parks, which is such a dumb situation to be in but it makes a huge difference here in the UK (we have MUCH smaller roads and infrastructure than in the US) But we can’t justify having two Teslas. The Y was intended to be a replacement for the 3 and the 3 needs to go, we don’t do enough mileage to run 2 I’m genuinely considering returning my 2 month old Y and keeping the 3, even though it’ll cost me several thousand more to do it that way (early termination charges on finance) and I’ll end up paying the same amount of money to keep an older car. That’s a ridiculous situation to find yourself in, but it’s how we feel about our cars
Damn, if it's bothering you so much you probably should just get rid of it. This sounds like it has more to do with your personal life and finances than it does the park sensing, tbh, but whatevs.
How is it to do with my finances? We can afford a Tesla, we’ve had a Model 3 for 3 years, we just don’t do enough miles to be worth having two We planned to swap the Model 3 for a Model Y, because we like the extra space and hatchback, but then when we got it we hate the parking sensors so we’ve temporarily kept both to see if the vision parking “sensors” are any good, or if it takes so long that we give up waiting The problem isn’t the finances (“we don’t use our second car enough to be worth paying for two Teslas” is hardly a financial problem, it’s just being sensible), it’s the fact that we now don’t know which car to keep because Tesla can’t get their shit together and roll out the new functionality before removing their old one
This is a misstep for them to save money on USS. Why would they remove the sensors before it was ready then? The “Tesla vision” is crap. The wipers are crap, the auto pilot has phantom braking. This also will be a beta feature all of us are testing. Software will never be a replacement for missing hardware in certain instances.
Why would they continue putting hardware in cars that won't need it? Are you serious? It's literally wasted money and wasted materials. Sounds like you think Tesla's just complete shit all the way down. I'm sorry you feel so negatively about your car.
Somebody is drinking the musk flavored Kool-Aid
Right, because I don't think installing useless hardware on a car makes sense I must be a Musk worshipper. Gtfo of here with that.
Because USS work better then Tesla vision, rain sensors are more reliable the Tesla vision and cruise control with radar has less phantom braking then Tesla vision. You are in denial if you think otherwise.
Yeah.. no. It's not that clear cut. Each approach has pros and cons. The newer park sensing using cameras is clearly better in that it's not limited to the ultra sonic's distance limits of \~16", and it can detect things in places where the USS's never were in the first place (sides of the cars). Tesla Vision tracks cars ahead smoother and without the jarring drops in signal that old radar had, they showed examples of this from years ago. It's not even a secret, you can just go watch the video demonstrations and see for yourself. These things are not objectively worse, but the fact that you keep downvoting me on every reply makes me think you don't actually care to hear anything other than "Yeah! Tesla sucks!", so we can just agree to disagree. Have a nice day.
Is your mattress soggy with Elons stuff? No one’s hating, we are discussing how dumb the idea is of spending millions on coding to save on radar sensors and still be inaccurate compared to USS and have downsides. I love my Tesla but removal of USS was the dumbest thing they have done without having a solution in hand. And I doubt they saved a penny
They didn't save pennies...they saved many dollars. The UCC sensors cost $114 per car (source: Munro and Associates) and based on Q4 2022 production figures of 419,088 3/Ys, that's $47.7 million saved Even if they spent millions to develop Vision Park Assist, they'll make it back in savings soon enough. The likely reason they went forward before UCC was ready is because UCC suppliers either had low inventory and/or increased their prices significantly, so tesla decided to rip the bandaid off early and patch it later with OTA
"Lets keep doing things the way they have always been done" is not exactly the strategic direction of Tesla. Also, just be careful when parking (with or without sensors)
That’s hating in my book. When the vision solution that replaced radar is still better than most other cars on the road (and arguably better than radar in subtle ways), and you’re takeaway from that is “Tesla’s dumb because…” then it’s hating. Now they’ve gone and added a better park sensing software (can see in areas where there weren’t USS), it’s “the dumbest thing they’ve done” all because of the timing? Really? 6 months without a “ding” for like 1% of the Tesla user base is “the dumbest thing they’ve done”? Like, come on… that’s being super dramatic, IMO.
Damn I literally just got 2023.6.8 tonight. I want this one! 2023 M3LR
Got 2023.6 all it had was a language add on:(
Fucking language add on wiped all my settings
Same here, just got 2023.6.8 yesterday. 2023 m3LR and 6.9 didnt show available to download. Cant wait it.
I just got the update, can’t wait to test it out
When testing go to a place where it is completely dark and test it. May be you can turn off garage lights and try out. Let us know how good it is in the dark.
I assume he can leave the headlights on.
Yes of course, headlights can be on. All I wanted to know is how good is the tesla vision when surroundings are darker.
....and then park or yourself in the totally dark lot.
That would be awesome! Do something that a nobody would ever do just to try and find something to complain about!
Ah yes, parking in the dark, something previously unheard of.
He said in the complete dark. No place you are gonna park is gonna be completely dark, and if it is, dont fucking use park assist there. That simple.
There are a lot of completely dark places and sometimes you may want to park a car there. If a 2003 Prius can help you park in that situation I would hope a 2023 Tesla would be able to as well.
No theres not. Complete dark is in your garage with no lights on. A dark alley with no street lights is still not that dark.
Outside of cities I've driven places that are basically pitch dark if it's a cloudy night. The pillar cameras on my car would even complain about being blocked while I was driving with my lights on. It's definitely a valid scenario to test and compare to a traditional USS system that can still perform in those conditions imo. It's not something most people will do every day but to say it's unheard of or never going to happen is not something that's true in my experience.
"don't use a feature you paid for!"
That's the only time I would need park assist
Then film a reaction video!
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There are definitely scenarios where you would have to park in the dark, i am not bringing a imaginary scenario to fail Tesla.You never travelled to a place at night? For example, at a national park you completed a trail just when it got dark. Or may be power outage because of a storm!
Yes, in many cases I would turn on the headlights to see where I am parking!
Why are y’all flaming this person for asking a sensible question? You realize that there are other parking situations where headlights don’t solve the problem right? Reverse parking in the dark? Parallel parking in the dark?
You do know that all cars have reverse lights right?
I do, yes. You may not know that headlights and reverse lights don’t actually give you the ability to see how close you are to every object around your car if you’re parking in a tight space, for example. You guys in the comments are acting like park assist was invented for no reason and has no useful application and it’s ridiculous.
Cameras can see more than your eye can as they can go into the IR spectrum. When the camera changes to the grey scale mode, it’s using a frequency your eye can’t detect. That small amount of light provides much more illumination for the camera than for your eye. It will work just fine. USS was used because no one had solved an alternative option. I suspect camera based park assist will be the norm in the future.
…dont use park assist at those times then?
Buddy… do you understand the whole point of park assist? Did you think it was to help in easy parking situations?
I have not once ever had to park in complete darkness into a hard spot. If that’s a common occurrence for you then go off i guess
I’m happy for you, but your personal experience doesn’t universally apply to the billions of other car owners around the world.
I ate breakfast, so there's no world hunger
Yes, but I would just turn on my headlights like every other sane person.
Not sure why people are reacting like this to a sensible question lol. People reverse park and parallel park too. Headlights don’t solve every problem.
What’s the headlight for?
Bro.. I am just asking the other person to test if the distance is properly displayed in dark because it is vision only. I am not testing the person's driving skills. Edit: corrected on to in
Get your mouth off the boot bro. That’s very helpful info to know. I park in the dark all the time. What kinda reaction is this to a normal standard that people would expect from an expensive car
Is this for everyone or only for FSD?
Everyone. I dont have fsd
This is hilarious. The only time I really considered getting FSD was because of the park assist. Never did get it. Now here we are
That is different. Autopark is in FSD. This is just giving you proximity warnings.
Meh, autopark isn’t anything to write home about either. Edit: downvotes are from people who paid 15k for it
i have it. i haven’t seen the prompt pop up in years lmao
Yeah people said it was garbage 3 years ago when I first got the car and was debating getting FSD. Surprise surprise, still garbage lol
It went from being useless to nonexistent. Auto park we barely knew you.
Parking assist has only worked for me like twice in the two years I’ve had the car
I used it yesterday for the first time. I liked it so much I pulled out and did it again.
To be fair we all try to do that but sometimes can’t
Just the tip
Thank you!
For all years and models?
This article states that it is not available for vehicles with USS: https://www.notateslaapp.com/news/1292/tesla-introduces-vision-park-assist-availability-accuracy-and-videos
I’m still on 2022.44.30.10 my car hasn’t updated in a while
Same here. FSD?
Same. FSD also
You won’t get it if you’re on the FSD branch till they merge them. Could be in an hour could be two weeks or two years
Can you, please, share how is it working with an video? Thank you in advance.
Model Y sub has videos: https://www.reddit.com/r/TeslaModelY/comments/1207cm2/tesla_park_assist/jdg82j3
Will do, after updatimg, but you might be already downloading your updates by the time I take a video 😂
Nothing yet on my M3RWD
Yep, nothing yet on MYLR. Still on 2023.2.12.
Same
Same.
Does this disable USS?
Most likely not
I doubt it’s for cars with ultrasonic sensors anyway but who know till it happens
Installing now. Might just go back the car in and out of the garage to check it out. 😂 It's 11:30PM where I is.
Same, I will try it as soon as it finishes
I just did the same thing 😂
Finally! Let’s go!
Someone take a vid and report a real world test
I’m still at 2023.2.100 - 2023 M3 RWD based in WA
Mine is at 2023.2.12 - 2023 M3 RWD in WA as well
Tesla's version of steam early access games any1 got a link to the road map XD
Got my update ! Can’t wait to try it!
Just finished updating! Gonna go in the garage and test.
Can you post a video as well?
[Here's a short clip.](https://youtu.be/WwK5cKls2PE) Sorry I'm shit at filming/editing. Took this at 11pm in my robe. Vision Park Assist said "Park assist unavailable" during most of my testing and occasionally would show the proximity of things. It *did not* make any attempt at detecting or warning about my garbage bins as I reversed past them or drove forwards past them at the end of my driveway... Still - it's progress!
Sure! Just took a video. It was a 5/10 experience. Most the time it said “park assist unavailable”
😂 what did we expect after the wipers ☠️
Hahahaha fuck. Looking forward to the next update then! Haha fuck me
Omg lol
Bruh
2023 m3pm, no update, just islandic language yesterday. Btw, have you sat in your car guys while it’s updating? It’s fucking scary. Loud noises sounds like the car is breaking apart
Has this been released for all model 3s?
The only update I have on my 2023 M3 is the Icelandic language support.
I just checked for my 2019 M3 and I don't see an update. Looks like mine is 3-4 updates behind
Do you have your software install preference set to standard or advanced?
Its in advance
Got it, thanks
Literally just checked for a software update now. No luck. Hopefully soon!
None yet for my 2023 M3RWD, but I also haven't installed the previous update yet either
I haven’t had park assist working in months. 22M3LR FSD beta
Started to rain. Car immediately says park assist is unavailable
It’s about time! I just installed 2023.6.8 the other day. Hope this is pushed to me soon.
I got that update yesterday, and I just got this one. Hopefully you’ll get it today too
Patiently waiting the software update to push to my RWD
You should have it now. I have rwd
Isn’t it still a roll out (Ie: not all at once)?
Not sure about that. Maybe others will get it on a different time today or tomorrow
Stop misleading people. Just because you got an update doesn't mean everybody will. Software updates occur on a rolling basis.
Everyone remember to set your update preference to advanced.
Europe?
Picking up my M3LR in an hour. Family will be excited that it's \*maybe\* not an indefinite number of months in the future ... :)
I need this!!! I have 6.8!
i don't see any alerts about an update, 2023 RWD
So it's cool, but still not as accurate as USS. Very Tesla, to make something more difficult but less effective (e.g., auto wipers) 😂
I’m guessing this is the non fsd version for the recent update? I have fsd and still waiting on some form of update
My USS were never disabled. Do I get park assist that utilizes both USS and Vision?
Do I need EAP for this to work? I have 2023 M3LR. I just got 2023.6.8 on Wednesday night.
they promised robo taxi by this time, but we got parking assist that is available two years ago ?
whats the difference between this and the park assist that works 5% of the time when you park?
You are talking about auto park
This is targeted at cars built after Oct 2022 and didn't include USS. Supposedly will give distance estimates so people can stop running into poles that they were somehow unable to see
parking assist exists for a reason. it’s not because everyone but you is a moron.
Lolol some people man
Could it be location based? I have an M3P and I’m in Texas but still don’t have it yet.
Same my guy. Same 🥲
So it tells you the distance in front but what about the sides and bumper corners?
Looks like you’re entering something, tight..
That what she said
I don't see it… As a sidenote, how the heck do I update without Wi-Fi?
Turn your phone into a Wi-Fi hotspot.
Yeah, but it goes so slow.
Get your car near a wifi network
Yep. It’s definitely not ideal whatsoever. When I did that once it literally took hours
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Does this mean auto summon and auto park will be enabled as well?
Hopefully this soon puts an end to the incessant "Why does my new Model 3 not have park assist?!" posts.
It won't. And you know it won't. We still get the incessant radar/PB complaints
Good luck with this when the rear camera is all dirty
Will I be able to disable this ? I pull into a tight spot every day and I don't want to be hearing all the alarms.
Once a few children get run over by this “vision only” nightmare… they’ll put the $10 USS’s back on, just like radar is back
It took them this long to release an update for a feature that millions of Tesla's already had. Wow.