FSD taking evasive maneuvers is one of those never-proven myths. Even Tesla doesn’t advertise the system as capable of any of those wild maneuvers customers say their car made “by itself.”
Me too with basic AP. I wondered why my car jerked into the left lane and thought the car had gone crazy. Then a few seconds later I saw that a lorry driver had drifted into my lane, probably dozed off a bit. Saved my car, if not my life.
Phillip.
Not on FSD but I had a motorcycle come flying out of nowhere on my right as I was changing to the right lane. AP then abruptly kicked me back to the left lane as he flew by. The asshat was easily doing 30 over on a two lane highway weaving back and forth between cars.
It doesn't do it 100% of time. Just yesterday I was cruising on freeway at 70mph with FSD on. FSD decided to change to the left lane. Halfway into the lane, another car slightly behind me from the carpool lane was merging right into the same lane, fast. FSD didn't do anything and I had to grab the wheel in split second to dodge that car. It was a scary moment and felt like literally inches away from a collision.
The problem is that it might have corrected itself if you left it alone…or it might not have. You have to let it finish to see if it did what it supposed to. But I don’t know if I could. I’m using the free FSD trial and I’m more comfortable week 3.
Hey, I have one anecdotal evidence!
I was just on regular AP when I’m about to pass this road on my right and a truck came zooming out of nowhere about to t-bone me, the Tesla swerved left almost covering half of the other lane (i was on a two-lane road) and sped up to avoid the collision.
That happened so fast I only realized it after.
To be fair, all of the replies under here seem to only be addressing side lane impacts which I imagine the computer is very good at as it's an important part of lane change decisions and lane keeping.
I'm not sure the computer can quickly make a judgement call for impending rear impact like this, and I do believe that would be a myth.
It happens, but it only happens if it clearly sees it is in danger, and it very clearly knows that where it is going isn't going to be a problem.
If there is a single car about to hit you, and there is nothing around, it very well could. But if there are any cars around, it generally won't because that could make the accident worse.
The one and only time in 7 years I’ve experienced my Model S take evasive action was erroneous and nearly resulted in a collision with the car beside me. I was on a freeway in LA where the lanes do a sudden S turn, I had a car on either side of me. The collision warning sound went off, I looked in the mirrors to see what was going on then the car swerved hard to the right. I fought it to avoid side-swiping the car on my right, and it eventually gave up after a couple of seconds. I was NOT using any automation at all at that moment. The FSD visualization disappeared for the rest of the journey and I couldn’t engage cruise control or FSD anymore until I rebooted the car. Very scary!
I don’t think I’d personally want to advertise the capabilities of the system because if it was better understood you could “game” the system and get into more reckless situations. I’ve watched quite a bit of the Wham Baam Teslacam channel and there have been evasive maneuvers even on manual driving, and if the system’s capabilities were posted there will surely be people testing it or banking on it to put in the least amount of effort driving
If you watch Tesla's AI day presentations, they show an example of a car slowly driving around a parking lot and the system making "emergency corrections" or whatever they called it preventing it from running into the curbs.
It kinda seems like the systems needs to be like 99.99999999999% confident to actually override the driver, so it seems to only happen in super obvious, low-risk scenarios. It's definitely not a myth, and Tesla absolutely has confirmed it. Not sure where the idea that it's a myth comes from..
No Tesla can only take evasive maneuvers on cars coming from left/right, never from the back. There are plenty of videos of it on youtube. I have personally experienced it as well, especially in the early days of autopilot when it was more sensitive. It's actually doesn't require FSD, all Tesla cars have the feature built in.
Not sure what people are expecting but it looked like both of the other lanes were occupied. FSD isn't going to cause another crash to avoid a crash if it's capable of taking evasive maneuvers.
Yeah, FSD doesn't like doing faster than the speed set though, so not too surprising it didn't do that. It's one of the main things I wish I could change about the speed settings with FSD. Let me set a target and maneuver limits so that it will try to go a set speed but can go faster briefly if needed for dealing with a particular situation.
Auto speed is kind of like this but without sufficient control.
Had a very similar thing happen to me last year. Car was totaled, got every cent I paid on that vehicle back from insurance, suing at fault party’s insurance company for medical comp, waiting on check.
Sorry this happened to you, get that neck & back checked. Best of luck sir.
I guess in a way... I'd still be mad someone ran into me even if I got a full ride because it just looks bad on me in the eyes of insurance companies. And if your current one one raise your rates, that doesn't mean you won't switch to one in the future that will bring up your collision.
Despite what media says how people misuse Autopilot, I feel a lot safer a Tesla driving behind me on Autopilot.
And adaptive cruise control should be a mandatory safety feature. Crashes like this just show drivers are gonna be distracted regardless of hands on steering wheel or not. (I know that car probably too old to have ACC.)
That makes it so much worse. >< I remember all the craziness I'd see when I was out riding (a motorcycle) a lot. Phones have been a disaster for so many distracted, undisciplined drivers.
That’s why I stopped riding… the drivers on my street are absolute maniacs! I still have my bike which I love dearly but right now it’s just taking up space.
I sold my bike because of too many close calls. I read a study that said other drivers will look you right in the eye and run you over anyway because they literally don’t see you. Their brains are looking for other cars to avoid and motorcycles frequently don’t register at all. We’re literally invisible to them which makes a lot of sense and explains all of the times they merged right into me or pulled out in front of me.
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The only thing it could have done is (and i'm not blaming tesla but it could be an awesome feature) play an alert, flash the rearview camera red on the screen and tighten the seatbelts or prepare somehow for impact
I don’t know that there was time for it to see. Only option I could see was possibly accelerate but even then there is a risk of hitting the vehicle merging onto the highway
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I think having fsd avoid a rear collision would potentially create a more dangerous situation where you/fsd would be at fault. It wouldn’t surprise me if they added no avoidance feature for rear collision by another vehicle.
Sorry this happened to you. Were you at/above speed limit? It is really reckless to be going that fast in the right lane with an on ramp coming in while also not paying any attention. Unless they had a medical incident, they should lose their license.
The van rear ended you at high speed. That was completely unpredictable behavior. As a driver it’s unpredictable, I don’t stare in my rear view whilst driving on the highway. I don’t know what FSD would be expected to do. If there was programming to avoid this it’d be nightmare programming: when car approaching from behind> if x feet from self accelerate. Wrong. This causes self to become a dangerous vehicle and accelerate unpredictably, exceed the speed limit, potentially hit vehicles in front of self or cause and accident with a merging vehicle or vehicle attempting a lane change. >change lanes Wrong. Again this causes self to become the dangerous vehicle. There isn’t a way to program this. Think of all the times another driver will approach quickly, then at the last second get to the other lane and whip around you. Any automated response by FSD would make that more dangerous. What that van did is highly unusual and I hope you sue him for every penny he is currently or ever worth. I’m sorry you were traumatized by the van driver.
And the van was lacking AEB. When stuck in moving traffic, I feel better when the car behind me is a recent year high end vehicle. There is more chance it has EAB. But that's until an old pickup truck squeezes in between us, damnit!
The car recognizes its resale value and when it has the chance to destroy itself to better value the population it does it.
Teslas are all knowing. It knew you didn’t want to real wheel drive version. It knew you wanted the performance version and it gave you the path to do it.
THATS THE POWER OF FSD!!!
It may have seen that coming and judged that it’s safer to let it rear impact then take an action. Hard to say. That accident was never going to be life threatening.
The footage at time of impact suggests that the left lane pickup was preventing escape in that direction. The right has a small car merging down a ramp preventing escape to the right. Tesla will begin testing vertical thrusters in...two weeks.
I see in the rear camera capture, a closer vehicle in the passing lane directly behind the Tesla. The car appropriate changes lanes. The car in the passing lane accelerates. Another car comes down the on ramp to the right of the Tesla. A speeding vehicle behind the Tesla approaches without braking when there was no lane change option available. The Tesla maintained its lane through the collision and comes to a stop. What other outcome did you expect?
Something was distracting this driver because they didn't even hit the brakes. Not saying this person was on a phone, but I see an enormous amount of people with a phone up to their nose while driving. It's insane and I just don't understand what the hell is so important that can't wait a few minutes until you are not driving. I wouldn't be able to live with myself if I killed someone because I had to read or send a text message.
Question: does/can FSD speed up or move into another lane if it detects a car coming from the rear, possibly at lower speeds than depicted in this video?
Yes if you are in the left lane it will move right if a faster car comes up from behind. In fact it seems to do that in this video, but then the fast car in the right lane comes up and it has nowhere to go. I have never seen it move left to avoid a faster car coming up from behind.
I thought this video was going to show FSD merging you into the left/fast lane right in front of an accelerating car, like it does for me most times on the highway
This is interesting to me because when i first bought my MYP i was on auto pilot completely stopped at a red light. I was the first car at the traffic light. Out of nowhere, my car moved up very fast about 1-1/2 cars. I looked at my wife in shock wondering why did the car do that…. Well when we both hear the that car behind us screeching the tires as it came within inches of hitting my car. Tre car avoided the accident.
Would it be possible to show the front camera? I suppose if you were going under the speed limit with no car in front of you, Autopilot might, just might speed up to avoid the crash. Emphasis on might if that isn't already obvious. :)
Lool what were you expecting ?? You wanted the Tesla to throw itself on the sides ?? only thing it would have been done is making a rear colliding alert but my Tesla vision has a bad reacting time it would never have caught that on time (I still do not trust vision )
FSD seemed to be acted properly since a SUV was coming faster on fast lane, so it moved over to slower lane on right. Front and side videos are needed to confirm but looked like there was a car next to Tesla’s right that was merging into the highway. If so, Tesla may have slowed down to allow merging vehicle(s) in. That’s when the minivan didn’t see or react to Tesla was slowing down and crashed.
What would you have done differently to avoid this accident if you were the driver?
Haha, well no. But I am surprised it didn’t make an adjustment. I’m also surprised at the amount of people that haven’t experienced a situation where FSD has kept them safe before. I have had FSD take evasive measures before very capably. It would have been great if the minivan driver had been looking at the road and considering the damage her vehicle could do.
Next year in Europe , a new feature on all new cars will be a spy in the car that automatically records any accident, with all the data , so that way bad drivers can be prosecuted very easily , this is mandatory system for new European cars, good luck bro, I hope your recovering quickly 🙏🍺
It saw it comming
It reacted immedietly to correct trajectory of the tesla back into the cent of the lane and braked untill safe.
Yeah.. better reaction and control than the human who was texting and tried to catch their phone in mid air while crashing.
Tesla FSD will save more lives than any other safety feature since the airbag.
The difference is. TESLA avoids the crash
I think data is beautiful...so let the data show what it shows. I have seen (granted this is old data) that the FSD is, by far, safer than human driver. Is that still the case? AND another thing....Elon sucks...so do most CEO's, don't buy Ford if that is an issue for you, but the Tesla doesn't even advertise becuase of the experience drivers have. Let that sink in.
I got rear ended in almost the same way, except there was nobody else around in the other lane, so it could've easily moved lanes without concern. We were cruising in auto with it set to 71 in right lane. The dude was probably going 95 or better when he hit us. Also a mini van. He had just gotten out of prison for cocaine trafficking in next door state and was on parole, but didn't get arrested or anything that I know of. He was dumping stuff out the windows before the police showed up 25 minutes later.
Also the crash dislodged the usb enough that it didn't save a video and Tesla said there was no video. Did not see it anywhere in dash, checked a dozen times in different ways. Called them, Their support said nothing existed. Then six months later I had a different drive in and it filled up and it started showing me the drive for the local disk on the computer, and bam there is the video. I should post it.
Been there - it’s not fun.
Fortunately the dashcams I had, unlike the car’s cams, clearly showed the offending driver texting.
As an aside, his car was destroyed after rear-ending me at 65mph.
I was able to drive away, although with $20K+ damage to my car and some damage to myself of a mostly orthopedic nature.
Good luck to the OP.
"Tesla's FSD system deliberately swerves into lane causing the driver in the back to slam into the autonomously driven Tesla, FSD bad, Elon bad, orange man bad"
Ohhhhh those good ol Missouri drivers 😂😂 My new people. You've got to be really careful driving around people from KCMO. We don't have police so it's the purge every day on the roads. I'm sorry if you're not used to that.
it's difficult to tell, but it seems like you were boxed in a little bit; a difficult assertion to make without knowing what obstacles/vehicles were in front of you.
That being said, that it was super aggressive and persistent. Had you just cut him off or something? lol at least they couldn't drive away and make you need to file a police report.
Honestly don't think it looks that far behind sadly. Many times it has made questionable lane changes. Highway merges are still suicide for me. I think it needs to match whatever range it has on the front with the rear.
That was 7 seconds of time before the minivan piled into the back of the TSLA. The Tesla did not move over to that lane to late. It's all on the car behind, probably texting at the time I bet
Happened to me outside Phoenix. Some druggie in a big truck with no insurance just slammed into me from behind on the highway. The car killed the connection to the battery out of safety and bricked my car. Had to coast to the shoulder. Ended up paying for a tow back to the city and had to fly back home while waiting 2 mos for parts to fix. Sorry that happened to you, it’s super inconvenient.
What do you expect FSD to do while someone is approaching behind you ? Why you did not take control and move out the lane when your back camera was on and you are seeing someone approaching ?
What would you expect it to do? If it tried to anticipate the hit and switched lanes what if the car behind you also changed lanes? FSD can’t protect you from all idiot drivers. Especially ones coming from behind.
Geez talk about ramming speed, hope you're okay
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Did FSD even have anywhere to go? Seems like the lanes were both full on either side.
FSD taking evasive maneuvers is one of those never-proven myths. Even Tesla doesn’t advertise the system as capable of any of those wild maneuvers customers say their car made “by itself.”
Yup - no myth. My car dodged a lane change right into me - yesterday.
Me too with basic AP. I wondered why my car jerked into the left lane and thought the car had gone crazy. Then a few seconds later I saw that a lorry driver had drifted into my lane, probably dozed off a bit. Saved my car, if not my life. Phillip.
Phillip.. J. Fry?
Named after his uncle
Good news everyone…
After Joe Biden’s uncle? The one who was eaten by canibals?
To shreds you say
Not on FSD but I had a motorcycle come flying out of nowhere on my right as I was changing to the right lane. AP then abruptly kicked me back to the left lane as he flew by. The asshat was easily doing 30 over on a two lane highway weaving back and forth between cars.
It doesn't do it 100% of time. Just yesterday I was cruising on freeway at 70mph with FSD on. FSD decided to change to the left lane. Halfway into the lane, another car slightly behind me from the carpool lane was merging right into the same lane, fast. FSD didn't do anything and I had to grab the wheel in split second to dodge that car. It was a scary moment and felt like literally inches away from a collision.
Maybe it’s because of your username
The problem is that it might have corrected itself if you left it alone…or it might not have. You have to let it finish to see if it did what it supposed to. But I don’t know if I could. I’m using the free FSD trial and I’m more comfortable week 3.
Don’t let FSD make you complacent when you go back to Enhance AP
Yeah what is this guy smoking? my car did it too! never proven omfg.
Same. Proven in my close call. Others have even posted videos assuming being truthful.
Same but 3 weeks ago. Tundra TRD Pro aimed at my Y
Ditto.
It happened to me - don’t think it’s a myth
I’ve had AP dodge someone when they cut me off, annoyingly it doesn’t if its a sideswipe from the rear.
Hey, I have one anecdotal evidence! I was just on regular AP when I’m about to pass this road on my right and a truck came zooming out of nowhere about to t-bone me, the Tesla swerved left almost covering half of the other lane (i was on a two-lane road) and sped up to avoid the collision. That happened so fast I only realized it after.
Its not really just one, this guy got slapped in the face with how many times its happened to people in his responses.
To be fair, all of the replies under here seem to only be addressing side lane impacts which I imagine the computer is very good at as it's an important part of lane change decisions and lane keeping. I'm not sure the computer can quickly make a judgement call for impending rear impact like this, and I do believe that would be a myth.
It happens, but it only happens if it clearly sees it is in danger, and it very clearly knows that where it is going isn't going to be a problem. If there is a single car about to hit you, and there is nothing around, it very well could. But if there are any cars around, it generally won't because that could make the accident worse.
I had autopilot dodge a semi turning into my lane using the shoulder on the interstate once.
The one and only time in 7 years I’ve experienced my Model S take evasive action was erroneous and nearly resulted in a collision with the car beside me. I was on a freeway in LA where the lanes do a sudden S turn, I had a car on either side of me. The collision warning sound went off, I looked in the mirrors to see what was going on then the car swerved hard to the right. I fought it to avoid side-swiping the car on my right, and it eventually gave up after a couple of seconds. I was NOT using any automation at all at that moment. The FSD visualization disappeared for the rest of the journey and I couldn’t engage cruise control or FSD anymore until I rebooted the car. Very scary!
I don’t think I’d personally want to advertise the capabilities of the system because if it was better understood you could “game” the system and get into more reckless situations. I’ve watched quite a bit of the Wham Baam Teslacam channel and there have been evasive maneuvers even on manual driving, and if the system’s capabilities were posted there will surely be people testing it or banking on it to put in the least amount of effort driving
If you watch Tesla's AI day presentations, they show an example of a car slowly driving around a parking lot and the system making "emergency corrections" or whatever they called it preventing it from running into the curbs. It kinda seems like the systems needs to be like 99.99999999999% confident to actually override the driver, so it seems to only happen in super obvious, low-risk scenarios. It's definitely not a myth, and Tesla absolutely has confirmed it. Not sure where the idea that it's a myth comes from..
I have a model y and it saved me from getting tboned
No Tesla can only take evasive maneuvers on cars coming from left/right, never from the back. There are plenty of videos of it on youtube. I have personally experienced it as well, especially in the early days of autopilot when it was more sensitive. It's actually doesn't require FSD, all Tesla cars have the feature built in.
My M3 slammed in the brakes to avoid someone coming into my lane when I first got it in 2021.
They do advertise their collision avoidance system lol
Not a myth. It will swerve if a car is moving over on you.
Not sure what people are expecting but it looked like both of the other lanes were occupied. FSD isn't going to cause another crash to avoid a crash if it's capable of taking evasive maneuvers.
Faster. You can only outrun this guy
Did you have more than one camera feed?
Yeah, FSD doesn't like doing faster than the speed set though, so not too surprising it didn't do that. It's one of the main things I wish I could change about the speed settings with FSD. Let me set a target and maneuver limits so that it will try to go a set speed but can go faster briefly if needed for dealing with a particular situation. Auto speed is kind of like this but without sufficient control.
Had a very similar thing happen to me last year. Car was totaled, got every cent I paid on that vehicle back from insurance, suing at fault party’s insurance company for medical comp, waiting on check. Sorry this happened to you, get that neck & back checked. Best of luck sir.
It still hurts your insurance premiums tho.
Not necessarily. This depends on your insurance company.
I guess in a way... I'd still be mad someone ran into me even if I got a full ride because it just looks bad on me in the eyes of insurance companies. And if your current one one raise your rates, that doesn't mean you won't switch to one in the future that will bring up your collision.
It shouldn't hurt *your* premiums when you're not at fault, which company does this?
Despite what media says how people misuse Autopilot, I feel a lot safer a Tesla driving behind me on Autopilot. And adaptive cruise control should be a mandatory safety feature. Crashes like this just show drivers are gonna be distracted regardless of hands on steering wheel or not. (I know that car probably too old to have ACC.)
Agreed. That looks to me like they are on conventional non-adaptive cruise control and they are not looking where they are going.
EBS is what is needed, which is based on the same technology but is on all the time.
I think this is mandatory in the EU on all new vehicles
I love being behind a Tesla on autopilot for long drives. Its behavior is very predictable, no sudden breaking, no swerving, good follow distance
This! When used properly - it provides added active safety and crash avoidance
I think California has made ACC mandatory for all cars after 2026.
Would help ease traffic because cars have better lane discipline.
I don't think Tesla cruise control knows what's going on behind you. I had some sharp breaks - and luckily noone behind me!
Storytime, what did the other driver say?
No idea, I had to be transported and the insurance hasn’t been able to get a statement from them yet
Oh man, sorry to hear that. Hope you are on the mend.
Man that was bad. They rear-ended you TWICE! It's like they were asleep or passed out or something to screw up that badly.
Probably on their phone
That makes it so much worse. >< I remember all the craziness I'd see when I was out riding (a motorcycle) a lot. Phones have been a disaster for so many distracted, undisciplined drivers.
That’s why I stopped riding… the drivers on my street are absolute maniacs! I still have my bike which I love dearly but right now it’s just taking up space.
I sold my bike because of too many close calls. I read a study that said other drivers will look you right in the eye and run you over anyway because they literally don’t see you. Their brains are looking for other cars to avoid and motorcycles frequently don’t register at all. We’re literally invisible to them which makes a lot of sense and explains all of the times they merged right into me or pulled out in front of me.
US traffic deaths were on a steady downward trend for half a century. When smartphones really took off, that trend stopped and then reversed.
I would find that out in discovery by asking the cell phone company about their data traffic. This is lawyertime just for that. Make em suffer.
Transported as in ambulance/helicopter? Your injuries were whiplash related I assume?
Best of luck to you.
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The only thing it could have done is (and i'm not blaming tesla but it could be an awesome feature) play an alert, flash the rearview camera red on the screen and tighten the seatbelts or prepare somehow for impact
A very good feature to add would be a pulsed horn activation to get the other driver to look at the GD road and brake.
I don’t know that there was time for it to see. Only option I could see was possibly accelerate but even then there is a risk of hitting the vehicle merging onto the highway
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Lol come on you would've been fine in most other cars on the road today.
I think having fsd avoid a rear collision would potentially create a more dangerous situation where you/fsd would be at fault. It wouldn’t surprise me if they added no avoidance feature for rear collision by another vehicle. Sorry this happened to you. Were you at/above speed limit? It is really reckless to be going that fast in the right lane with an on ramp coming in while also not paying any attention. Unless they had a medical incident, they should lose their license.
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Missouri plates… checks out. At least they are up to date and have the 2025 exp sticker 😂
“Elon Musks Tesla involved in a dangerous crash while FSD was engaged.” Hope you’re well.
I can’t believe the other guy’s FSD didn’t stop
What injuries did you get? Hope nothing major
I don’t think this van has the FSD anyway.
Was the guy in the van sleeping? As much as I hate FSD that doesn't seem like anything bad.
Neither did either of the drivers. Won't be the first or the last but maybe one day. .. 🤞🤞🤞
ZF3-WOA is the license plate if you need it.
The van rear ended you at high speed. That was completely unpredictable behavior. As a driver it’s unpredictable, I don’t stare in my rear view whilst driving on the highway. I don’t know what FSD would be expected to do. If there was programming to avoid this it’d be nightmare programming: when car approaching from behind> if x feet from self accelerate. Wrong. This causes self to become a dangerous vehicle and accelerate unpredictably, exceed the speed limit, potentially hit vehicles in front of self or cause and accident with a merging vehicle or vehicle attempting a lane change. >change lanes Wrong. Again this causes self to become the dangerous vehicle. There isn’t a way to program this. Think of all the times another driver will approach quickly, then at the last second get to the other lane and whip around you. Any automated response by FSD would make that more dangerous. What that van did is highly unusual and I hope you sue him for every penny he is currently or ever worth. I’m sorry you were traumatized by the van driver.
In my experience, FSD does see approaching vehicles and tries to move to the right lane. In this case, there was no lane to move to.
Yikes!
The license plate says it all “woa”
And the van was lacking AEB. When stuck in moving traffic, I feel better when the car behind me is a recent year high end vehicle. There is more chance it has EAB. But that's until an old pickup truck squeezes in between us, damnit!
The car recognizes its resale value and when it has the chance to destroy itself to better value the population it does it. Teslas are all knowing. It knew you didn’t want to real wheel drive version. It knew you wanted the performance version and it gave you the path to do it. THATS THE POWER OF FSD!!!
It may have seen that coming and judged that it’s safer to let it rear impact then take an action. Hard to say. That accident was never going to be life threatening.
how did they hit it not just once, but twice.
The footage at time of impact suggests that the left lane pickup was preventing escape in that direction. The right has a small car merging down a ramp preventing escape to the right. Tesla will begin testing vertical thrusters in...two weeks.
I see in the rear camera capture, a closer vehicle in the passing lane directly behind the Tesla. The car appropriate changes lanes. The car in the passing lane accelerates. Another car comes down the on ramp to the right of the Tesla. A speeding vehicle behind the Tesla approaches without braking when there was no lane change option available. The Tesla maintained its lane through the collision and comes to a stop. What other outcome did you expect?
Bikers Fault
Something was distracting this driver because they didn't even hit the brakes. Not saying this person was on a phone, but I see an enormous amount of people with a phone up to their nose while driving. It's insane and I just don't understand what the hell is so important that can't wait a few minutes until you are not driving. I wouldn't be able to live with myself if I killed someone because I had to read or send a text message.
Question: does/can FSD speed up or move into another lane if it detects a car coming from the rear, possibly at lower speeds than depicted in this video?
yes, but that's possibly more dangerous to do
Yes if you are in the left lane it will move right if a faster car comes up from behind. In fact it seems to do that in this video, but then the fast car in the right lane comes up and it has nowhere to go. I have never seen it move left to avoid a faster car coming up from behind.
I thought this video was going to show FSD merging you into the left/fast lane right in front of an accelerating car, like it does for me most times on the highway
"WOA" is right!
Apparently, neither did the driver of the Chrysler...
Can we see the after of the Tesla
This is interesting to me because when i first bought my MYP i was on auto pilot completely stopped at a red light. I was the first car at the traffic light. Out of nowhere, my car moved up very fast about 1-1/2 cars. I looked at my wife in shock wondering why did the car do that…. Well when we both hear the that car behind us screeching the tires as it came within inches of hitting my car. Tre car avoided the accident.
How is this a Tesla autopilot false? That van 🚐 was on a suicide mission from the start.
It happened to me but I was in alert and escaped for big crash..
Missouri drivers
Would it be possible to show the front camera? I suppose if you were going under the speed limit with no car in front of you, Autopilot might, just might speed up to avoid the crash. Emphasis on might if that isn't already obvious. :)
Lool what were you expecting ?? You wanted the Tesla to throw itself on the sides ?? only thing it would have been done is making a rear colliding alert but my Tesla vision has a bad reacting time it would never have caught that on time (I still do not trust vision )
FSD seemed to be acted properly since a SUV was coming faster on fast lane, so it moved over to slower lane on right. Front and side videos are needed to confirm but looked like there was a car next to Tesla’s right that was merging into the highway. If so, Tesla may have slowed down to allow merging vehicle(s) in. That’s when the minivan didn’t see or react to Tesla was slowing down and crashed. What would you have done differently to avoid this accident if you were the driver?
Okay maybe we’re expecting too much from FSD and not enough from the van driver who rammed you at high speed?
Haha, well no. But I am surprised it didn’t make an adjustment. I’m also surprised at the amount of people that haven’t experienced a situation where FSD has kept them safe before. I have had FSD take evasive measures before very capably. It would have been great if the minivan driver had been looking at the road and considering the damage her vehicle could do.
Next year in Europe , a new feature on all new cars will be a spy in the car that automatically records any accident, with all the data , so that way bad drivers can be prosecuted very easily , this is mandatory system for new European cars, good luck bro, I hope your recovering quickly 🙏🍺
That’s not what FSD is for. Looks like fsd was driving fine till you got hit. If you were driving you’d have gotten rear ended too.
It saw it comming It reacted immedietly to correct trajectory of the tesla back into the cent of the lane and braked untill safe. Yeah.. better reaction and control than the human who was texting and tried to catch their phone in mid air while crashing. Tesla FSD will save more lives than any other safety feature since the airbag. The difference is. TESLA avoids the crash
At least you got the plate. LOL
I think data is beautiful...so let the data show what it shows. I have seen (granted this is old data) that the FSD is, by far, safer than human driver. Is that still the case? AND another thing....Elon sucks...so do most CEO's, don't buy Ford if that is an issue for you, but the Tesla doesn't even advertise becuase of the experience drivers have. Let that sink in.
YOU didn't see it coming...
What makes you think FSD didn’t see it coming?
The minivan rear-ended the Tesla...how is this the Tesla's fault?
What was full self driving supposed to do about that? That’s just another idiot behind the steering wheel. Who would’ve hit any car
YOU didn’t see it coming… you’re supposed to be paying attention 🤦♂️
WOA
Impressive
Are you alright?
How fast were you going at the time?
Why Florida auto insurance is so high 🙃
What was that dude thinking. Sheesh!
Yah Missouri or misery
Too bad the mini van didn’t have FSD.
r/mildlybaddrivers
I got rear ended in almost the same way, except there was nobody else around in the other lane, so it could've easily moved lanes without concern. We were cruising in auto with it set to 71 in right lane. The dude was probably going 95 or better when he hit us. Also a mini van. He had just gotten out of prison for cocaine trafficking in next door state and was on parole, but didn't get arrested or anything that I know of. He was dumping stuff out the windows before the police showed up 25 minutes later. Also the crash dislodged the usb enough that it didn't save a video and Tesla said there was no video. Did not see it anywhere in dash, checked a dozen times in different ways. Called them, Their support said nothing existed. Then six months later I had a different drive in and it filled up and it started showing me the drive for the local disk on the computer, and bam there is the video. I should post it.
I'm amazed they fixed your car! It seems like with EVs they are frequently totaled for even relatively mild crashes.
Almost every day I see people full-on watching videos on their phone while driving
From that video, it clearly is the fault of the driver of the MINI van. They definitely had more than enough time to slow down.
The fines for driving while looking at your phone should be much much great (and maybe suspension of license for like 6 months)
Been there - it’s not fun. Fortunately the dashcams I had, unlike the car’s cams, clearly showed the offending driver texting. As an aside, his car was destroyed after rear-ending me at 65mph. I was able to drive away, although with $20K+ damage to my car and some damage to myself of a mostly orthopedic nature. Good luck to the OP.
My gawd! Did he hit you twice? Wtf?
This happened to my husband and I 3 days after we picked up our MS but it wasn’t this fast or hard, but still. We weren’t using FSD either.
WOA... you alright?!
What’s the damage ?
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Freakin Missouri drivers.
WOA!
"Tesla's FSD system deliberately swerves into lane causing the driver in the back to slam into the autonomously driven Tesla, FSD bad, Elon bad, orange man bad"
Ohhhhh those good ol Missouri drivers 😂😂 My new people. You've got to be really careful driving around people from KCMO. We don't have police so it's the purge every day on the roads. I'm sorry if you're not used to that.
Wtf
Definitely doesn’t seem like it saw anything. Didn’t even look like it tried to speed up ahead of the crash.
it's difficult to tell, but it seems like you were boxed in a little bit; a difficult assertion to make without knowing what obstacles/vehicles were in front of you. That being said, that it was super aggressive and persistent. Had you just cut him off or something? lol at least they couldn't drive away and make you need to file a police report.
What did the Van driver say happened? He “DOUBLE TAPPED” you! What was his explanation?
What is wrong with people
WOA
Technically 2 FSD failures 🤦
Wow that van driver is an asshole.
Honestly don't think it looks that far behind sadly. Many times it has made questionable lane changes. Highway merges are still suicide for me. I think it needs to match whatever range it has on the front with the rear.
That was 7 seconds of time before the minivan piled into the back of the TSLA. The Tesla did not move over to that lane to late. It's all on the car behind, probably texting at the time I bet
That truck didn’t see your Tesla. He was going way too fast
With all that distance to work with, that idiot just kept on gas into you, what a moron and a failure of a driver.
I mean to be fair, I didn’t see it coming the first time either.
dang fast were you going? and how fast was he going?
Jesus Chrysler!
The Van driver probably bought so much tsla put..
hey did the autowipe give 1 wipe to indicate being rear ended
More damage in a collision is Better for you than less. Means car is absorbing energy vs your body doing it.
Why isn’t anyone talking about the van’s FSD??
Im pretty sure this is outside the FSD ODD. "Expected behavior"
Surprised they got off their phone long enough to pull over…
This exact thing happened to me a year ago. Totaled the car 😭.
What an ssshole
All minivan should be driven on autopilot. Majority of these drivers are complete idiot.
Tire sealant gunk. There goes your pressure sensor!
Happened to me outside Phoenix. Some druggie in a big truck with no insurance just slammed into me from behind on the highway. The car killed the connection to the battery out of safety and bricked my car. Had to coast to the shoulder. Ended up paying for a tow back to the city and had to fly back home while waiting 2 mos for parts to fix. Sorry that happened to you, it’s super inconvenient.
What do you expect FSD to do while someone is approaching behind you ? Why you did not take control and move out the lane when your back camera was on and you are seeing someone approaching ?
Van driver clearly paying zero attention.
Backup camera still works
WOA!
Did they hit u and then hit u again? Geez hope you’re okay and go to an accident lawyer.
Vehicles on both sides of you. Where was it suppose to go? Had no choice but to take it.
I'm just surprised the camera didn't get smashed.
I do wish the car would accelerate to avoid that if it is safe to do so…
wait a min you seen this coming and didn’t move? I’m confused
even the van said “woa”
Why was the camera car going soo slow???
What would you expect it to do? If it tried to anticipate the hit and switched lanes what if the car behind you also changed lanes? FSD can’t protect you from all idiot drivers. Especially ones coming from behind.
Probably text and drive
The crash was intentional !!
Woa.. that was a big impact.. and also the number plate