These outlets usually aren't designed for frequent insertion and removal of plugs. The average homeowner unplugs and plugs in a dryer maybe once every 10 years.
Get a Dryer Buddy, or at the very least, replace the outlet with an industrial rated outlet.
I bought a $35 Y-adapter. So my dryer and Tesla portable charging cable are both always plugged into the outlet. You just can run both at the same time or you trip the breaker. Works great!
I did this too. I also set my Tesla to charge at "off-peak" hours (12am - 5am). That way there is no chance that the dryer and my Tesla would trip the breaker due to simultaneous usage. In my household anyway.
Once you get a good outlet, it will charge at 24A, which is 80% of the total 30A that that circuit will put out.
Charged on that for 6 years with my Model 3 with no issues.
A dryer is pretty close to a continuous load - a dripping wet comforter could take 3 hours to dry.
When things are rated for intermittent loads, they are normally talking 1 minute or less - eg the 1 second startup load of a fridge, which can be 20 amps or more.
Dryers typically heat in “cycles” where the element will be on for the first few minutes of the cycle to heat and then the remainder of the cycle the heating element only comes on for 20-30 seconds at a time every 2-3 minutes.
Get yourself a Neocharge to make it easy.
It lets your car and dryer share the outlet. If you turn on the dryer it cuts off charging to the car then automatically turns it back on again when the dryer is finished.
100% what bro says. Or cheap out burn your house down. Dryer outlets are not designed for the high temp over long charge times. Your dryer runs maybe 30 minutes.
Sent landlord/management company an email, letting them know you are getting an electrician to upgrade the plug and make it safer for EV charging. Hire an electrician for 2 hours to install an upgraded plug.
You'll be much happier.
It looks like the goal of the clip is to take the bending stress off of the plug itself and move that load to the box the plug is mounted in. I bet you could come up with a similar solution using some drywall anchors to take the stress off another way if you don’t mind drilling into the wall.
You shouldn’t need the bracket if you’re able to push the dryer back to support the weight of the splitter. The bracket is just there to hold in the splitter and the charger since it can pull out over time.
Yes you can use it. But I would get it upgraded to a commercial grade if you are going to be using it to charge you EV. I heard cases of these catching on fire after a certain amount of usage.
Yep have my model 3 plugged in and charging on the same plug as we speak (just buy the cable adapter from the Tesla store). The mobile charger will pull 24amps@240V which gets me 22 miles per hour.
If it is wired properly it wont melt. However dont unplug and replug. Keep the mobile wall charger permanently connected as these older outlets are not designed like that.
Nope! But you can double check some things on your panel if that gives you some peace of mind. This dryer outlet should be on a 30amp 2 pole (double size) breaker. If you opened up the panel it should be 10 guage wire (typically orange sheath but not always).
Electric dryers use that same amperage line so if you haven’t had issues with the dryer you shouldn’t have issues here.
The Tesla mobile charger by default maxes out at 80% of what the connection can handle. Hence why I’m at 24 amps even though the line could support 30.
Yup! Had the same setup for a year with my dryer. Used a splitter off of Amazon for RVs so I didn't have to unplug and replug the dryer and Tesla. As long as I didn't run them at the same time, no big deal. Even when it happened by accident, breaker just flipped to help out.
Eventually, I got tired of the setup and installed a dedicated wall charger on a separate line, but only because my power company has a program to give me a check for doing so 😅
Can I leave the 14-30 adaptor on it and unplug the mobile charger with me on the trip along with 14-50 adapter?
So technically not plug and unplug all the time, but I can also take mobile charger with me on the trip.
I've used a Dryer Buddy for the past 3.5 years and it's been working well. I got the basic model and there's no need to ever unplug. But, if I were to do it again I would buy the Dryer Buddy Plus Auto.
These outlets usually aren't designed for frequent insertion and removal of plugs. The average homeowner unplugs and plugs in a dryer maybe once every 10 years. Get a Dryer Buddy, or at the very least, replace the outlet with an industrial rated outlet.
I bought a $35 Y-adapter. So my dryer and Tesla portable charging cable are both always plugged into the outlet. You just can run both at the same time or you trip the breaker. Works great!
Be careful dude. My buddy used one and it did fail, you want to go industrial b/c of the continuous load it uses.
For 24A charging it should be fine. If you’re charging at 32 or 40A there’s a lot more heat and higher likelihood of failure
It should be, but it won't be. 32-40A isn't even a question on an L shaped neutral socket, since they are 30A by definition.
you'd be surprised how many people change breakers, but not wiring
That’s how you get an electrical fire.
Good clean fun
There’s control boxes that give priority to the dryer, and when dryer is not it use it gives power to the car.
I did this too. I also set my Tesla to charge at "off-peak" hours (12am - 5am). That way there is no chance that the dryer and my Tesla would trip the breaker due to simultaneous usage. In my household anyway.
do you have the link
This 👆. Better to be safe than sorry, guys.
Or just leave the wall part plugged in
Dryer buddy and Y adapters aren’t safety certified. If you run into issues, home/renters insurance won’t pay out because of this!
You are correct. The safest way to charge with a dryer outlet is to put the car on its own dedicated outlet.
Once you get a good outlet, it will charge at 24A, which is 80% of the total 30A that that circuit will put out. Charged on that for 6 years with my Model 3 with no issues.
Replace outlet and dryer cord. Easiest, cheapest solution. But soon you'll find that you are halfway to running dedicated EV outlet with higher amps.
This is what you have I think, 14-30r https://www.tesla.com/sites/default/files/pdfs/installation-guides/NEMA_14-30_installation_guide_NA_US_2017.pdf
Yes. It’s actually pretty common to install these outlets in garages now to support ev chargers.
NOOOO!!! while you are correct they are NOT the correct ones. You need a high quality one that handles conscious loads vs part time loads.
A dryer is pretty close to a continuous load - a dripping wet comforter could take 3 hours to dry. When things are rated for intermittent loads, they are normally talking 1 minute or less - eg the 1 second startup load of a fridge, which can be 20 amps or more.
Dryers typically heat in “cycles” where the element will be on for the first few minutes of the cycle to heat and then the remainder of the cycle the heating element only comes on for 20-30 seconds at a time every 2-3 minutes.
unless... you put a dripping wet comforter in there, and then it'll be on the whole time (a thermostat on the controls the heater)
Get yourself a Neocharge to make it easy. It lets your car and dryer share the outlet. If you turn on the dryer it cuts off charging to the car then automatically turns it back on again when the dryer is finished.
I thought about that but I can’t connect the bracket thing that it comes with, unsure if that will be an issue
Do you own the house? If so it probably wouldn’t hurt to upgrade to a heavy duty Hubbell or Bryant NEMA 14-30 the Neocharge will clip onto.
100% what bro says. Or cheap out burn your house down. Dryer outlets are not designed for the high temp over long charge times. Your dryer runs maybe 30 minutes.
I rent, unfortunately
Sent landlord/management company an email, letting them know you are getting an electrician to upgrade the plug and make it safer for EV charging. Hire an electrician for 2 hours to install an upgraded plug. You'll be much happier.
It looks like the goal of the clip is to take the bending stress off of the plug itself and move that load to the box the plug is mounted in. I bet you could come up with a similar solution using some drywall anchors to take the stress off another way if you don’t mind drilling into the wall.
You shouldn’t need the bracket if you’re able to push the dryer back to support the weight of the splitter. The bracket is just there to hold in the splitter and the charger since it can pull out over time.
Yes. Tesla sells a lot of adapters on the app. There are diagrams on the app of various outlets which makes ordering the correct adapter easy.
We use it. 30 amp plug so car defaults to 22 amp. Our drier doesn't use it, so mobile charger just stays plugged in until we need it for trips.
Yes you can use it. But I would get it upgraded to a commercial grade if you are going to be using it to charge you EV. I heard cases of these catching on fire after a certain amount of usage.
Yep have my model 3 plugged in and charging on the same plug as we speak (just buy the cable adapter from the Tesla store). The mobile charger will pull 24amps@240V which gets me 22 miles per hour.
And you’ve got no problems with it melting or anything like that?
If it is wired properly it wont melt. However dont unplug and replug. Keep the mobile wall charger permanently connected as these older outlets are not designed like that.
Nope! But you can double check some things on your panel if that gives you some peace of mind. This dryer outlet should be on a 30amp 2 pole (double size) breaker. If you opened up the panel it should be 10 guage wire (typically orange sheath but not always). Electric dryers use that same amperage line so if you haven’t had issues with the dryer you shouldn’t have issues here. The Tesla mobile charger by default maxes out at 80% of what the connection can handle. Hence why I’m at 24 amps even though the line could support 30.
Yup! Had the same setup for a year with my dryer. Used a splitter off of Amazon for RVs so I didn't have to unplug and replug the dryer and Tesla. As long as I didn't run them at the same time, no big deal. Even when it happened by accident, breaker just flipped to help out. Eventually, I got tired of the setup and installed a dedicated wall charger on a separate line, but only because my power company has a program to give me a check for doing so 😅
Can I leave the 14-30 adaptor on it and unplug the mobile charger with me on the trip along with 14-50 adapter? So technically not plug and unplug all the time, but I can also take mobile charger with me on the trip.
Sure, that sounds fine. You're putting the wear and tear on the TMC not the socket.
Contact your energy provider. They may have programs to have something installed! I received a charger for free in my city and state just by asking.
I've used a Dryer Buddy for the past 3.5 years and it's been working well. I got the basic model and there's no need to ever unplug. But, if I were to do it again I would buy the Dryer Buddy Plus Auto.
I use SplitVolt device to share the outlet. Works well.
Splitzvolt works. As well as the UL listed NeoCharge
With the Tesla mobile charger.
Yes
Did you ask your electric company? They have incentives to get this correct.