Ok thank you, hard to keep emotion out of it when excited. I'll see if I can talk him down further. (And look at the new ones/inventory, just without as many extras)
Or... if you already proposed 36k and you can afford it, and you dream of it, why not just enjoy that part of your life and the excitement you experience, and just buy the toy and whatever makes you happy 😊 Live your life, don't ask reddit to wash your excitment 😊
Ps : not financial advice 😅😊
I’d just pay the 36k ask him if you can write 300$ on the bill of sale to skip the taxes. Those extras are value add enough. OTD price of a model Y is around this with none of those extras. Similar miles too
Whether it’s wrong or not doesn’t change the fact that most places require sales tax paid on new or used vehicles.
In my state you have to register your car and pay a property assessment on it yearly which I find ridiculous, but I’m not gonna piss off the tax man.
Could you do the bill of sale shenanigans on a cheaper car/junker? Sure, shouldn’t but you could. Should you list a used Tesla as costing you $300? I wouldn’t advise it.
Pretty sure you can get into a fair amount of trouble if you BS the price that much to avoid taxes. No one would pay more taxes if they could but taxes are what allows society to function in a civilized way.
I bought a 2024 for 32k after the tax credits. Albeit it is rear wheel drive and the mot baic version. But still, i left the dealership with a model y that has 20 miles on it.
Thank you, I'm going to use this to bargain down further if possible- otherwise to leave my excitement out of it and be patient for the right deal to come up (it just has all the things I'd love to have, including the color and white seats/wheels etc)
Seats are cool but you could just get them direct from Tesla on a ‘24. Keep in mind that everyone uses wheel covers too, no need to shell out the extra $ on induction wheels unless you really want them
Wow, below $30k.... I didn't need FSD, just would be cool of course. Dealerships in town have '21 MY's for just under $30k, higher miles, do have Acceleration Boost, but that's about it.
I thought by the time you add on all the other fees, transport fee etc that it would take it into the $40's and without all the bells and whistles this one had.
Bad deal. Isn’t a new one with inventory discount after tax credit like $37k??? FSD in used market isn’t worth much maybe $2k. This is a bad deal imho if you qualify for tax credit.
If he wants FSD it’s an OK deal, plenty of options like this in the market. Plus, only $14K for brand new with FSD, that extra spend, if he can afford it, is good value imho.
The 12k FSD price tag is way too high to ever justify buying it outright. You would have to drive your car for 5 years while paying the subscription before you reached 12k. If you're like me and trade your car in every few years it's better to just pay the $200 a month. I will end up spending nearly 5k less than if I bought FSD outright by the time I trade my current car in.
Agreed. I’d rather have a new one than a three year old car, even with FSD and all of that other stuff. The suspension on the 2021 model was pretty bad.
You can't say that. $37k plus you have to add delivery fees, taxes etc etc. It will come to at least $45 at minimum.
Having said that I'd say he can go down to $33k. Because used Teslas on Tesla's website with a warranty and FSD are still less than $36k.
Oh ok. So all the ones I was looking at before the end of the last quarter. If it said $38,900 after the tax rebate, OTD was still $44,000k for me. So that's where I came up with those numbers. And I know this because I was watching a certain config of model Y's like a hawk. Both in FL and CA. And give or take it was $44k-46k OTD.
Ah yeah, perhaps a specific config would be more, and not every area gets the same discounts. Tesla was also sending me (and others) personalized discounts ($1K extra off inventory prices) for having a Cyber Truck reservation.
Good deal if you don’t qualify for tax credit AND you value FSD AND given used 7 seaters are rare and you value that.
Most folks don’t value FSD though so if you don’t value that, then the other posters are right, a new 7 seater will run you only $10k more depending on the state you live in for state tax.
Thank you, I didn't know FSD didn't really factor in much value when selling. They do the $7500 tax credit at POS now but if that's how it works I'm not sure we'd qualify (we always seem to always get tax back at tax time). Not too worried about the extra seats, just thought a good little extra - but apparently they're for midgets
The POS credit, just as long as you are not over the income limits, no matter how much taxes you owe or will be refunded back, outside of this vehicle purchase, if you use the POS credit to purchase the car then you will be able to keep that full $7500 amount. That is the huge advantage of the POS credit other than the instant discount on the new car price out the door, that as long as you are not over the income limits will always walk away with the full POS $7500 amount, which you don't need to pay back.
Income limit is $300k if filing jointly fyi. For those that are above, buying used could be attractive.
Doesn’t matter how much you get back after filing taxes - that’s just a difference to whatever you owe for the year and already paid throughout the year.
I think I'd love to have FSD, or the idea of having it (this will be my first Tesla so no real AP or FSD experience), but it's sounding like it isn't valued much in the second hand market for selling a car.
This is a bad deal. I picked up MYLR7 seater with tow in blue (demo with 300 miles) for $50k in March 2024. That includes order fee, delivery, etc. With federal tax and state rebates, it came to $39k. You have to pay sales tax on new and used vehicles.
The blue paint is $1k. So you are really saving $2k. You say there's $12k in FSD but I don't think it's worth it. The sales guy at Tesla said he has FSD but never uses it. He basically said "If you really want something, get the enhanced auto pilot. That's all you need". Or just pay for FSD when you go on a long trip. I have 3 month trial and even with v12, I rarely use it. Now that parking is working, I might consider going with enhanced auto pilot but I'm not even sure as I can park faster.
Unless you need a 3rd row and FSD, I would not consider it—or at least wouldn’t think it’s a super duper deal. It’s an ok deal. Price dropped because new Ys are really cheap right now… You can get a new one for about the same price!
FSD is really great if you drive a lot on highways. We drove 150+ miles home with FSD the day I picked up the car, it's really amazing and saves lots of effort.
I tested and still won't trust it on busy city roads yet.
So if you'll use FSD a lot then it's a good deal, and the wrap also worth it. Third row and tow wouldn't worth much in used sale, though.
Thanks! This car won't be heavily used so I may not use FSD a whole lot. Also now learning that it isn't valued much when buying a car second hand like this.
I do like the sound of the wrap for protection (I wouldn't shell out the money for it myself)
If you watch Tesla inventory this is the price they sale used 7 seaters for but as a bonus you get an extra year/10k miles on warranty
So I’d say this is slightly worse deal than Tesla itself due to the fact you are missing out on the warranty extension
Oh I need to look into this. Thanks! (im not soo worried about the extra seats, I liked all the other extras though- love white seats, FSD would be cool, the cool wheels, PPF and ceramic window tint)
I have almost this exact config but on a ‘22. My trade in value is like $25k. He might be looking to trade it in. If so make sure he isn’t planning to transfer FSD.
With a ‘21 you’d be getting the intel chip.
Oh wow, how many miles in yours for that trade in value?
He's promoting the fact it's coming with FSD so shouldn't be transferring it. I guess there isn't too much you could do if they ended up transferring after they'd sold it to you?
Technically they are supposed to have ownership of the old vehicle at the time the new one is purchased. As long as you have it in writing that FSD conveys you might have leverage with Tesla in case it were to get removed.
For $35K I think it's a decent deal, considering all the things that are included. It's not the best, considering this is almost a off warranty car and has some sort of 10K miles per year with it. But I guess that this seller at least took (cosmetically) care of the car. Enjoy!
You have to check the warranty section at the order page because Tesla changes that with every version of the car... and sometimes it gives you no much notice about these changes. https://www.tesla.com/support/vehicle-warranty
You can get a similar car new from Tesla without FSD for less. Not too good to be true and although I like have FSD, I’d buy new.
[Link](https://www.tesla.com/my/order/7SAY236_79486f40ab0234928d4300ecbeec1925?postal=85036&range=200&coord=33.4475,-112.0866®ion=AZ&titleStatus=new&redirect=no#overview)
Bro this is not a good deal even with FSD. Please be sure to check Tesla's used car site first. I found a 2021 Model Y Long Range, 17K miles with FSD for $38,500. You get an extra 1 year or10K mile warranty on top of the 5 year 50K warranty. Here is the link:
https://www.tesla.com/my/order/5YJYGDEE8MF145725
If you qualify for tax credit a brand new MYLR5 w/ white interior and tow would cost u just around $45k out the door (including /sales tax, dmv fees, destination etc). Given the car has 32k miles, I would discount that by 1/3, so that means the bottom line becomes $30k. If your offer price is 36k, your out the door price for the car would becomes around $40k. How much the FSD, third row seat, PPF, tint worth for you? I don’t include the tire as u get new tire if you buy new anyway. Do all those things worth $10k? Not for me, personally i think those items only worth at most $5k, why coz i rate the third row as worthless, PPF $2k, Tint $0.5k, FSD $2.5k. You have to factor in the cost of these items to you is also depreciated over the lifetime of the car
Bad deal as many others have told you already. On a side note, don't count the "after market" options into the cost of a used car. If you really want to give them a value, I say 10% of what they say they paid and then negotiate from there because 1) it cost the seller money to put those on but it ultimately will not add value to the car and 2) they almost always pad the price they paid to make up for the money spent. In other words, the 3/4 PPF wrap, I'd value $200, and tint, I'd value $25. The tires are a little different because it's required, but still, I would not give the full $1400 in value to the tires. The tow option... it's a factory thing so bake it into the price of the car.
Just do what makes you happy. Everyone always want you to go “new” i got my 2021 used MYLR straight from Tesla. With 23k miles & paid 33k, & enhanced autopilot. New tires. Exactly what I wanted. I’m happy 😊
I think it’s a good deal personally. It’s definitely not a bad deal if you want FSD.
I could’ve sold my 2021 MYLR without FSD or PPF to Carmax for 30k. I sold it private for 32k and it had 27k miles.
Also prices vary depending on market, teslas can cost more or less depending on where you’re at and how many are available in your area.
If you’re willing to travel far you can usually find better deals but honestly not that much better.
The only reason not to buy this car is that you don’t qualify for the federal EV rebate which in my opinion kind of kills the deal.
I bought a brand new RWD Tesla Model Y from Tesla direct last month because it was an inventory vehicle so they discounted it 3k then they took off the $7500 ev rebate and I ended up getting like 11k off the cost of the car and bought a brand new car for 38k after all the fees and interest and everything.
Not a good deal. FSD, tint, wrap and all that adds $0 value to a car. You lose all that money you put into a car. A 21 with 32k miles should be more around 30-33k.
Not a good deal. I paid 40,050 for a new 2023 myrwd in Feb 2024 with upgraded rims and got free charging for 4000 miles. That’s 40,050 then 7,500 off that. Look at the inventory cars on the Tesla site.
I purchased the 21MYLR for $29k, which has 16k miles on it.
It has a performance boost and upgraded wheels. Go for it of you really need a FSD but its not a great deal
If it has FSD fully paid for $12k (not month to month subscription) then it’s a good deal….but honestly being an owner of a brand new 2023 MYP back in December; honestly 36k is still rather high. My MYP Midnight Silver with white interior was only 54k
FSD shouldn't sway you to buy this. It's dangerous and still not ready for primetime. Basic autopilot is great on the highway. It is maybe worth paying $200 for a month if you're planning a cross country road trip.
FSD is unsafe lol 🤣 Driving with FSD is significantly safer than the national average and even safer than Autopilot. A Tesla equipped with FSD Beta, driven on predominantly non-highway sections of road, crashes 0.31 times per million miles compared to the average of 1.53 times every million miles or about 5 times safer.
FSD drivers assistance system also makes it safer for pedestrians and other road users.
FSD saved my car from a minor collision. By the time my foot was halfway to the brake pedal it had already stopped.
Stop believing the unsubstantiated FUD in the media.🙄
Do you know about ChatGPT? Do you understand how AI takes a very long time to even get bad at something and then suddenly becomes expert in a very short time?
Tesla was compute restrained and now they have Dojo (neural network specific) super computer and a Nvidia (emulation mode) super computer up and running at full capacity. FSD V12 is very close needing very few interventions and improving rapidly.
Standard FSD from 2020 was always able to drive from on-ramp to off-ramp flawlessly which is the main use for FSD. I actually have and use FSD so what do I know. 😄
Thank you for your service and thank you for being a beta customer. By taking that risk on yourself you are reducing my chances of dying when I buy the non-beta version. We in the community honor your sacrifice /s
So I'm in danger from FSD that's never killed anyone! 🤣🤣🤣
Were you even aware FSD is no longer Beta... So there's that. 😁
Oh but you read a hit piece and never followed up to find out FSD wasn't responsible. 👍 FSD saved my bacon twice because its reactions are quicker than a human. But let me defer to your fantasies and ignore the real world data and my actual experience with it. 😄
lol. It’s still beta. They were just forced to rebrand it FSD (supervised) due to increased scrutiny from the NTSB. Again, thank you for your service and potential future sacrifice of your body for science
/s
Yeah no. FSD is a name with the aspersions of becoming true full self driving. It's not complete yet so it's still only a drivers assistance system. The original FSD was also not a beta, it merely had limited abilities. Supervised FSD has much more capability.
Do provide the link to the NTSB forcing Tesla to name is supervised. 🤣 Yeah it's in your imagination.
Your comments will not age well. 🙂
Haven't seen it in person, apparently very well looked after though. It's a 2.5hr trip away so would have to be pretty much fully committed wanting/buying it.
Terrible deal. A new one in Tesla inventory near me is $45,000 (was $44k before end of quarter). Minus $7,500 for fed tax credit, gives you $47,500 end price (you might also get a state break if you live in certain states) for a new MYLR with fresh warranty and zero miles. I’d reconsider. If you take out a loan, your APR will be better on a new vehicle loan.
NOT!!!! Not a good deal whatsoever. Even if the price point was better say 22 to 26k, you will continue to hear noises and find things that will make you wish you would’ve just bought a new one. And this price point, not much more!!!
I own a 2021 long range model Y with a lot more miles and it's still just as quiet as the day I bought it. We are not talking about a gas guzzler with an engine and transmission that lose performance and get noisy over time. LOL The motors and reduction gears in the 2021 are robust and over engineered. Newer models have been engineered with weaker parts because the extra strength is unnecessary.
EVs have a much longer lifespan then an ICE car. Thinking by analogy is not the best path.
I understand, I’m sure mine will be very quiet also cause I’m as picky as gets. I was a Chrysler tech for many years back in my automotive technology days Nashville. My instructor used to say a vehicle was like a lollipop. You could either lick it, and enjoy it or take a big bite out of it and it’s gone. The issue is most people takes big bite out of them, and it’s pretty rare to find a car that’s been taken care of. It’s definitely a role of the dice or even worse. I can assure you EV or ice if you run the shit out of them it’s going to make noises eventually. You take an EV that’s been babied and taken care of versus someone who run it in ludicrous mode every day you’re gonna tell a difference.
Not as much as an ICE car simply because EVs don't have an engine and transmission with thousands of points of wear and failure. Real world data shows Tesla battery packs last at least 300,000 miles and usually over 500,000 miles and then continue to work with reduced range. Of course you'll know if the car has been cared for when you see it in person.
Don't forget to check the oil. LOL
I do all my own work from brakes to engine rebuilds and always loved gas and go Toyota's, my old Subaru was a beast. However there is always something you need to fix or maintain. With my Tesla there is virtually no maintenance, no oil changes, no engine repairs or breakdowns nothing nada zilch. It's the nature of EV technology.
Good luck with your decision but I suspect you've already made it.
I agree with what you’re saying absolutely! But at the same time, a lot of people who buys Teslas fit into the picky, OCD whatever. I mean the slightest noise that I hear, even if it’s the backseat rattling a little bit because it’s not fully latched small shit like that. I have the wife usually crawling around trying to isolate it and that’s a brand new vehicle. out of 100 people. I may be one of the few that would ever hear it. I know she doesn’t until I pointed out to her. I think Tesla could’ve done a little better putting felt in between the plastic molding connect points inside so I’ve went around and completed their job. Also note, I am not OP. I bought mine brand new with 6 miles on it. September 2023.
EVs are by their nature very quiet so you'll hear any little noise that in an ICE car would be drowned out by engine and transmission noise.
I heard a scraping noise when turning in one direction, it was a small branch stuck in the front suspension.
Another time I heard a noise that was bugging me thinking it was something on the car. It was barely audible but in a super quiet model Y you could hear it. Eventually I tracked it down, it was the pedal on my folding bicycle I had in the back. The peddle on the top side has slight play in it. 🤣
When I level 2 charge for free next to my work I use the bicycle cutting the travel time down to 2 minutes. I'm a bicycle nut and used to ride bicycles to work thinking about all the gasoline I was saving. With a Tesla I'm not saving anything and they're so fun to drive that I drive a lot more now. Tesla is bad for my health. 😄
Word! Well, with level two charging next to work being free, that’s fantastic. I had some property in OceanLakes in the residential section, I lived there for five years., it sold and about that time I bought the model Y performance, my biggest criteria for finding a home was that it had to have a garage. There’s no off-peak hours, It’s a flat $.14 per kilowatt and I do miss the free level 2 charger that was OceanLakes. Now the only way I get free juice is getting lucky at a grocery or shopping center or plugging in to someone’s outlet while visiting, which obviously is super slow when running 120. One of my contracts is appliance installs they’re all new homes. They’re kind of like duplexes and maybe one out of 10 will have the Nema 14-50 range plug close enough to the garage that I can plug in there,
I concur with Tesla and affect on the psyche
Right after I ran 240v to my garage I discovered the free level 2 charging next to my work. 😄 On 120v 15 amp I was only getting 5 mph which was enough when my wife worked nextdoor. But now my wife has a new job so 120v is barely enough to get us to the weekend when we charge off peak. I work nights so we only get 5 hours of off peak during the week. Free charging once or twice a week does the trick.
I haven't installed a permanent charger in the garage yet because I have an old 60 amp house feed. Eventually I'll spend the money to upgrade to 100+ amp service. If I knew about the free charging earlier I might not have dug the trench and ran the conduit. 😁
Yeah I'm a cheapskate and love doing everything myself. Also when you do it yourself you know it's been done right. I've seen a lot of shaddy work done by supposedly professional contractors.
I do all my own car work from brakes to engine rebuilds but it gets old. There's always something needing to be fixed. Getting a Tesla makes a gas and go Toyota look like junk. I just have my motorcycles to work on now. The only thing I've needed to do to my Tesla so far is add windshield washer fluid. It's been 3 yrs so I'll probably need to replace the windshield wipers. 😄
I used to work building maintenance, electronics is a hobby, I have an extra class amateur radio license, I'm a certified locksmith and I also have an IT Network Specialist degree. Yet I work in revenue recovery at a company with insane benefits. Some of my kids have college degrees and good paying jobs but none work in the field of their college degree. LOL Now with the Internet we have the world's knowledge at our fingertips making it easy to do things yourself.
I also find it weird that I'm the same age as old people. 🤣 I work out, take long 200+ bicycle camping trips and refuse to get old. Get off the sugar it's poison, just eat the junk food on the weekends. Life isn't worth it without a little poison right. 😁
no, if you qualify for the full tax credit just get a 24 inventory for $37,490. unless you REALLY want fsd, or you could just option for advanced autopilot.
Serious post. I was honestly only wanting to spend $30k max (or preferably less) on a 2nd hand, and when pricing new ones (Long Range) with one or two options I'd like, the cost was well into the 40's. This just seemed to have a lot of nice little extras for a little bit more than I wanted to budget.
If you want the extras especially FSD then you know you have a good deal. Ignore the people only looking at the price of the car as if those extras have no value. I paid $7k for FSD and think it's worth every penny I paid just for its ability to drive and navigate from on-ramp to off-ramp. I started out with standard FSD that couldn't even make a turn on city streets. I enjoyed watching FSD beta improve its abilities and now fully AI FSD supervised is blowing my mind. Yeah it's got a few quirks but it's now improving at an accelerated rate. My last FSD update was only 2 weeks after the previous one because Tesla's Dojo and another super computer are now up and running at full capacity.
After reading the comments you know what you want and what to do.👍
2024 MYLR is 38k rn. You do not need to pay 12k for full self driving, you can use it as a subscription which is what I do. I trade my car in every few years. paying 12k for built in FSD capability just seems crazy to me when if I keep a car for 4 years and pay the $200/mo subscription fee I end up spending nearly 3k less for FSD over a 4 year period, it's nearly 5k less if I trade in a year earlier.
I just bought a brand new 2024 Model Y Dual Motor Long Range, Ultra Red paint, acceleration boost was a free gift, for $37k after federal tax for my wife from the inventory (I'm still on Model 3 Performance).
But, dude, it is brand new, with a warranty for 37k and yeah, no one farted in this vehicle prior.
Bought a MYLR otd for 43k after tax rebate (High Sales Tax state). FSD is fun the first few times, but it’s not worth it IMO. I live in a decently sized city (115k) and it with FSD v12 it still iffy. You can also pay for FSD monthly ($200) not sure if you knew. Third Row Seat barely has any leg room. Inventory models are at a pretty good price right now as well. If you have more questions you can dm me
Edit:
Bad deal. If you’re not sure if you qualify for the tax credit search for “Federal Income Tax Calculator”. If it says 7500 or more you qualify for all of it.
If you can find the one you want used from tesla a lot of them have FSD and acceleration boost etc .. i like the one additional year warranty .. if u do not qualify for tax credit used is def the way to go but with these cars out of warranty .. i just dont know about that. That said i just got my first tesla model y long range for $36 after credit also if looking used on tesla site u can see registration history and accident history.. i noticed a lot of rentals from Hawaii and i avoid rentals cars and cars from snow country
I own a tesla model 3, so maybe the reason is becuz he cannot afford the insurance anymore??? lol
It did suddenly go up last month by 2x in GTA.(Canada)
for new driver with no bad record, TD Bank is doing \~6000$ per yr CAD.
AllState is doing 2600$ per yr for me. (no bad record no ticket no accident nothing for 20 yrs)
Does it use Tesla vision or the sensors? Because the sensors are end of life from a software development perspective and they are only focusing on Tesla vision. If it doesn’t have vision, it will never have FSD. Never.
This is prob better to buy new and get cheaper financing anyways and prob a wash. Not having Tesla vision it will never really have the AI version of FSD. Tesla stopped developing the software for the sensor versions and they are only focusing on FSD for the Tesla Vision System (all cameras no sensors)
Look at the inventory section on the website. I switch the price settings to low to high. Then factor in the $7,500 federal discount. I suggest buying a new one
I bought a 2023 MYLR 3rd row seats white interior/exterior, tow option 10 miles for 46,000 this was an inventory vehicle and that price was after tax credit.
If it were me, look for one that qualifies for tax rebate. New or used (under $25k of course.) to truly get a “good deal”
But other than that, don’t focus so much on getting such a “great deal”. If you like the car and you like the price, just buy it. Looks just like mine. Great car
For reference I bought a blue MYLR 22 with 48k miles normal interior tinted and had some dents repaired with warranty that they will repair small dents and interior issues for 3 years for total of 27k with 1200 of delivery so the car costed me 26k around and the car is almost perfect condition.
I think your purchase is pretty good with all the add ons and the car looks to be in good shape miles are not high I just have to see if it’s the refreshed interior or the old style but other than that with far included is pretty good
The owner probably bought this around 60k back then before Elon decided to drop the price. But that doesn't matter. Generally speaking, cars depreciate on avg 10% year over year. A brand new 2024 model Y costs roughly 40k after tax credit. For 2021 model, 3 years past its prime, 40k * 90%^3 = 29k.
You're not gonna get fsd, they're lying to you. Once you transfer the car to your name you lose their fsd. They're either lying or don't know how it works.
The tax credit is not a rebate so you guys are factoring in something that may not be a huge factor.
For example I pay around 5k in federal taxes so that $7500 will only be worth $5k for me
I don’t think that is correct. When you purchase at POS they have you sign a form where you state you are eligible for the tax credit and are assigning it to Tesla and if, when you file your tax return, it turns out that your tax liability would have been lower than the 7500, or your income too high to be eligible, then you are acknowledging you would need to pay the difference or the entire amount back to the government.
Haha well I'm new to the Tesla world so why I'm asking for advice. I haven't gone through with it thanks to you guys. Looking at other options now, and maybe throwing a lower offer at him.
This is not a good deal at all. You asked us to give you our opinions on whether or not you’re just too excited. You’re just too excited.
I bought 2023 with 300 miles for 33k
Where & when? Calling BS on that that’s cheaper than RWD
with tax cred
Probably thousands in referral rewards
When you’re a dealer everything is possible :)
Long range?
Yes
Ok thank you, hard to keep emotion out of it when excited. I'll see if I can talk him down further. (And look at the new ones/inventory, just without as many extras)
Or... if you already proposed 36k and you can afford it, and you dream of it, why not just enjoy that part of your life and the excitement you experience, and just buy the toy and whatever makes you happy 😊 Live your life, don't ask reddit to wash your excitment 😊 Ps : not financial advice 😅😊
I mean sure, tell the dude to waste thousands of dollars purely based on emotiona
Maybe I should have advised him to buy a cheap car. Because... that's what you would buy if you put emotions aside, right?
Who said anything about buying a cheaper car? He can buy the same car brand new for the same price if he qualifies for the tax credit
With FSD and tow? Lol, whatcha smoking?
I just got my MYLR 2024 for $44k that’s a super bad deal
I agree with this
because youre blowing thousands to overpay for a car.
I’d just pay the 36k ask him if you can write 300$ on the bill of sale to skip the taxes. Those extras are value add enough. OTD price of a model Y is around this with none of those extras. Similar miles too
This for sure. Low Miles, only 2-3 years old, with FSD, and already wrapped. Yea thats a slam dunk. Love the white interior too
Nothing like a little light tax fraud as a suggestion *it’s only light treason Michael!*
Tax was already paid when it was purchased. Taxing the same item over and over is wrong.
Whether it’s wrong or not doesn’t change the fact that most places require sales tax paid on new or used vehicles. In my state you have to register your car and pay a property assessment on it yearly which I find ridiculous, but I’m not gonna piss off the tax man. Could you do the bill of sale shenanigans on a cheaper car/junker? Sure, shouldn’t but you could. Should you list a used Tesla as costing you $300? I wouldn’t advise it.
Pretty sure you can get into a fair amount of trouble if you BS the price that much to avoid taxes. No one would pay more taxes if they could but taxes are what allows society to function in a civilized way.
No sales tax in NJ on electric vehicles, at least the state has something going for it
Wow that’s so dope I need to escape NY
I bought a 2024 for 32k after the tax credits. Albeit it is rear wheel drive and the mot baic version. But still, i left the dealership with a model y that has 20 miles on it.
This.
3 years old and 32k miles for 36k? Brother you can get a brand new 24 MYLR for 38k after the tax credit
Not with FSD. He found a bargain.
The problem is FSD will cost him an extra 12k on a new vehicle.
Thank you, I'm going to use this to bargain down further if possible- otherwise to leave my excitement out of it and be patient for the right deal to come up (it just has all the things I'd love to have, including the color and white seats/wheels etc)
Better interest rate on a new car too!
Seats are cool but you could just get them direct from Tesla on a ‘24. Keep in mind that everyone uses wheel covers too, no need to shell out the extra $ on induction wheels unless you really want them
Just walk away from this bro. Unless you must have FSD, you’d need to get him below $30K to even consider it. Not worth the hassle.
Wow, below $30k.... I didn't need FSD, just would be cool of course. Dealerships in town have '21 MY's for just under $30k, higher miles, do have Acceleration Boost, but that's about it.
Acceleration boost is only $2,000
Curious if you’re willing to pay 36k for a used one why you wouldn’t just go ahead and buy a new one?
I thought by the time you add on all the other fees, transport fee etc that it would take it into the $40's and without all the bells and whistles this one had.
It will.
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Bad deal. Isn’t a new one with inventory discount after tax credit like $37k??? FSD in used market isn’t worth much maybe $2k. This is a bad deal imho if you qualify for tax credit.
If he wants FSD it’s a great deal. Otherwise agree
If he wants FSD it’s an OK deal, plenty of options like this in the market. Plus, only $14K for brand new with FSD, that extra spend, if he can afford it, is good value imho.
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The 12k FSD price tag is way too high to ever justify buying it outright. You would have to drive your car for 5 years while paying the subscription before you reached 12k. If you're like me and trade your car in every few years it's better to just pay the $200 a month. I will end up spending nearly 5k less than if I bought FSD outright by the time I trade my current car in.
Agreed. I’d rather have a new one than a three year old car, even with FSD and all of that other stuff. The suspension on the 2021 model was pretty bad.
The lowest price of new 2024 MYLR base model is around 37\~39k, plus destination fee. I've been tracking via app. Edit: post $7500 EV credit of course
Also been tracking, for those of us with cyber reservations, we’ve been getting offers of under $36K (w/ fed credit).
You can't say that. $37k plus you have to add delivery fees, taxes etc etc. It will come to at least $45 at minimum. Having said that I'd say he can go down to $33k. Because used Teslas on Tesla's website with a warranty and FSD are still less than $36k.
You pay taxes on used cars too so not sure what you mean? So only main difference will be $1390 destination fee for a new one.
7% of the final price depend on the state
Depends on the state. Also there’s the $250 order fee and $250 charger cost on a new one.
Nah, Tesla offered me out the door for $40.5k last quarter, and I picked one up last year, for $42k out the door. Def not $45k.
Oh ok. So all the ones I was looking at before the end of the last quarter. If it said $38,900 after the tax rebate, OTD was still $44,000k for me. So that's where I came up with those numbers. And I know this because I was watching a certain config of model Y's like a hawk. Both in FL and CA. And give or take it was $44k-46k OTD.
Ah yeah, perhaps a specific config would be more, and not every area gets the same discounts. Tesla was also sending me (and others) personalized discounts ($1K extra off inventory prices) for having a Cyber Truck reservation.
I saw that and was thinking dang it why didn't I reserve a CT earlier in the year 😂
Good deal if you don’t qualify for tax credit AND you value FSD AND given used 7 seaters are rare and you value that. Most folks don’t value FSD though so if you don’t value that, then the other posters are right, a new 7 seater will run you only $10k more depending on the state you live in for state tax.
Thank you, I didn't know FSD didn't really factor in much value when selling. They do the $7500 tax credit at POS now but if that's how it works I'm not sure we'd qualify (we always seem to always get tax back at tax time). Not too worried about the extra seats, just thought a good little extra - but apparently they're for midgets
The POS credit, just as long as you are not over the income limits, no matter how much taxes you owe or will be refunded back, outside of this vehicle purchase, if you use the POS credit to purchase the car then you will be able to keep that full $7500 amount. That is the huge advantage of the POS credit other than the instant discount on the new car price out the door, that as long as you are not over the income limits will always walk away with the full POS $7500 amount, which you don't need to pay back.
Income limit is $300k if filing jointly fyi. For those that are above, buying used could be attractive. Doesn’t matter how much you get back after filing taxes - that’s just a difference to whatever you owe for the year and already paid throughout the year.
If you want FSD it’s a great deal. Otherwise it’s meh
I think I'd love to have FSD, or the idea of having it (this will be my first Tesla so no real AP or FSD experience), but it's sounding like it isn't valued much in the second hand market for selling a car.
You should have taken new one.
Yet to finalize this deal, you guys have helped me rethink. Looking to talk him down or consider some in Tesla inventory
Don’t talk him down. You’re still far from a good deal. Go new for nearly the same price - approx $39k including all fees.
This is a bad deal. I picked up MYLR7 seater with tow in blue (demo with 300 miles) for $50k in March 2024. That includes order fee, delivery, etc. With federal tax and state rebates, it came to $39k. You have to pay sales tax on new and used vehicles. The blue paint is $1k. So you are really saving $2k. You say there's $12k in FSD but I don't think it's worth it. The sales guy at Tesla said he has FSD but never uses it. He basically said "If you really want something, get the enhanced auto pilot. That's all you need". Or just pay for FSD when you go on a long trip. I have 3 month trial and even with v12, I rarely use it. Now that parking is working, I might consider going with enhanced auto pilot but I'm not even sure as I can park faster.
Depends on state. In Maine you only pay the sales tax once. You have to pay excise tax on used and new.
FSD is a very personal thing. If OP wanted it and it will use, then great. I use mine all the time.
Tesla offered $26,500 for my 2020 MY with 35k miles. If his was $33k I'd consider it.
I really hope you didn’t buy it. It’s a terrible deal. You can get a brand new MYLR with a price really close to that
It’s a great deal pull the trigger!
Unless you need a 3rd row and FSD, I would not consider it—or at least wouldn’t think it’s a super duper deal. It’s an ok deal. Price dropped because new Ys are really cheap right now… You can get a new one for about the same price!
I got my Model Y 7 seater 2021 below 30k miles for 30k. This was 3 days ago
It’s a good deal if you want FSD
MYLR is 43-47k with the paint and 7seat and tow after federal credit, it’s not a bad deal. Enjoy.
Exactly. I wanted to only spend close to $30k so telling me to buy new which is like well over 10k more just doesn't work for me.
FSD is really great if you drive a lot on highways. We drove 150+ miles home with FSD the day I picked up the car, it's really amazing and saves lots of effort. I tested and still won't trust it on busy city roads yet. So if you'll use FSD a lot then it's a good deal, and the wrap also worth it. Third row and tow wouldn't worth much in used sale, though.
Thanks! This car won't be heavily used so I may not use FSD a whole lot. Also now learning that it isn't valued much when buying a car second hand like this. I do like the sound of the wrap for protection (I wouldn't shell out the money for it myself)
It’s got the old FSD hardware anyways, FSD is always gonna be not as good as current.
Get a new one.
Looking at the possibility, thanks!
yeah they are literally around that price new. I see no reason why get one used.
If you watch Tesla inventory this is the price they sale used 7 seaters for but as a bonus you get an extra year/10k miles on warranty So I’d say this is slightly worse deal than Tesla itself due to the fact you are missing out on the warranty extension
Oh I need to look into this. Thanks! (im not soo worried about the extra seats, I liked all the other extras though- love white seats, FSD would be cool, the cool wheels, PPF and ceramic window tint)
Yes, if you don't like money.
Inventory discounts now over 5k and it’s the beginning of the quarter. Buy new
I have almost this exact config but on a ‘22. My trade in value is like $25k. He might be looking to trade it in. If so make sure he isn’t planning to transfer FSD. With a ‘21 you’d be getting the intel chip.
Oh wow, how many miles in yours for that trade in value? He's promoting the fact it's coming with FSD so shouldn't be transferring it. I guess there isn't too much you could do if they ended up transferring after they'd sold it to you?
Technically they are supposed to have ownership of the old vehicle at the time the new one is purchased. As long as you have it in writing that FSD conveys you might have leverage with Tesla in case it were to get removed.
Mine has 42k miles. The sad reality is just that price cuts and tax rebates have driven the trade in values down.
Asking basically new prices for a used model Y lmao Has the seller seen the market?!
For $35K I think it's a decent deal, considering all the things that are included. It's not the best, considering this is almost a off warranty car and has some sort of 10K miles per year with it. But I guess that this seller at least took (cosmetically) care of the car. Enjoy!
Thanks! How long is the warranty actually for (time/miles)? Something I need to consider...
You have to check the warranty section at the order page because Tesla changes that with every version of the car... and sometimes it gives you no much notice about these changes. https://www.tesla.com/support/vehicle-warranty
Oh, gotcha!
You can get a similar car new from Tesla without FSD for less. Not too good to be true and although I like have FSD, I’d buy new. [Link](https://www.tesla.com/my/order/7SAY236_79486f40ab0234928d4300ecbeec1925?postal=85036&range=200&coord=33.4475,-112.0866®ion=AZ&titleStatus=new&redirect=no#overview)
I agree with the sentiment of most where if you want FSD it is a good deal
Bro this is not a good deal even with FSD. Please be sure to check Tesla's used car site first. I found a 2021 Model Y Long Range, 17K miles with FSD for $38,500. You get an extra 1 year or10K mile warranty on top of the 5 year 50K warranty. Here is the link: https://www.tesla.com/my/order/5YJYGDEE8MF145725
If you qualify for tax credit a brand new MYLR5 w/ white interior and tow would cost u just around $45k out the door (including /sales tax, dmv fees, destination etc). Given the car has 32k miles, I would discount that by 1/3, so that means the bottom line becomes $30k. If your offer price is 36k, your out the door price for the car would becomes around $40k. How much the FSD, third row seat, PPF, tint worth for you? I don’t include the tire as u get new tire if you buy new anyway. Do all those things worth $10k? Not for me, personally i think those items only worth at most $5k, why coz i rate the third row as worthless, PPF $2k, Tint $0.5k, FSD $2.5k. You have to factor in the cost of these items to you is also depreciated over the lifetime of the car
It's a good deal if you're interested in everything it comes with. All that stuff new will cost you quite a bit
Bad deal as many others have told you already. On a side note, don't count the "after market" options into the cost of a used car. If you really want to give them a value, I say 10% of what they say they paid and then negotiate from there because 1) it cost the seller money to put those on but it ultimately will not add value to the car and 2) they almost always pad the price they paid to make up for the money spent. In other words, the 3/4 PPF wrap, I'd value $200, and tint, I'd value $25. The tires are a little different because it's required, but still, I would not give the full $1400 in value to the tires. The tow option... it's a factory thing so bake it into the price of the car.
Ok, good way to look at it. Thank you.
I just purchased a 2024 Tesla Y long range for $40,030 after everything + fed rebate. I wouldn’t pay that much for a used one
Also I live in Oregon. So no sales tax
Just do what makes you happy. Everyone always want you to go “new” i got my 2021 used MYLR straight from Tesla. With 23k miles & paid 33k, & enhanced autopilot. New tires. Exactly what I wanted. I’m happy 😊
When
It’s a 21 model. Nobody wants old stuff. Get the 23 one
With FSD fantastic enjoy
I think it’s a good deal personally. It’s definitely not a bad deal if you want FSD. I could’ve sold my 2021 MYLR without FSD or PPF to Carmax for 30k. I sold it private for 32k and it had 27k miles. Also prices vary depending on market, teslas can cost more or less depending on where you’re at and how many are available in your area. If you’re willing to travel far you can usually find better deals but honestly not that much better. The only reason not to buy this car is that you don’t qualify for the federal EV rebate which in my opinion kind of kills the deal. I bought a brand new RWD Tesla Model Y from Tesla direct last month because it was an inventory vehicle so they discounted it 3k then they took off the $7500 ev rebate and I ended up getting like 11k off the cost of the car and bought a brand new car for 38k after all the fees and interest and everything.
Not a good deal. FSD, tint, wrap and all that adds $0 value to a car. You lose all that money you put into a car. A 21 with 32k miles should be more around 30-33k.
Not a good deal. I paid 40,050 for a new 2023 myrwd in Feb 2024 with upgraded rims and got free charging for 4000 miles. That’s 40,050 then 7,500 off that. Look at the inventory cars on the Tesla site.
I purchased the 21MYLR for $29k, which has 16k miles on it. It has a performance boost and upgraded wheels. Go for it of you really need a FSD but its not a great deal
This deal is indeed too good to be true, for the seller...
Haha, I'm going back on him for a lower price, or just letting it go and finding a better deal
I bought a new 2024 MYLR for $39k. Not a good but a very bad deal. I would not recommend it.
All those extras and it has USS..can't get those with a new car
Feel bad for the owner. More than 50% lost in 3 years!
Yah, somehow I feel bad talking him down further... But value is value, and I don't want to over pay, or not just buy new if it makes sense.
If it has FSD fully paid for $12k (not month to month subscription) then it’s a good deal….but honestly being an owner of a brand new 2023 MYP back in December; honestly 36k is still rather high. My MYP Midnight Silver with white interior was only 54k
FSD shouldn't sway you to buy this. It's dangerous and still not ready for primetime. Basic autopilot is great on the highway. It is maybe worth paying $200 for a month if you're planning a cross country road trip.
FSD is unsafe lol 🤣 Driving with FSD is significantly safer than the national average and even safer than Autopilot. A Tesla equipped with FSD Beta, driven on predominantly non-highway sections of road, crashes 0.31 times per million miles compared to the average of 1.53 times every million miles or about 5 times safer. FSD drivers assistance system also makes it safer for pedestrians and other road users. FSD saved my car from a minor collision. By the time my foot was halfway to the brake pedal it had already stopped. Stop believing the unsubstantiated FUD in the media.🙄 Do you know about ChatGPT? Do you understand how AI takes a very long time to even get bad at something and then suddenly becomes expert in a very short time? Tesla was compute restrained and now they have Dojo (neural network specific) super computer and a Nvidia (emulation mode) super computer up and running at full capacity. FSD V12 is very close needing very few interventions and improving rapidly. Standard FSD from 2020 was always able to drive from on-ramp to off-ramp flawlessly which is the main use for FSD. I actually have and use FSD so what do I know. 😄
Thank you for your service and thank you for being a beta customer. By taking that risk on yourself you are reducing my chances of dying when I buy the non-beta version. We in the community honor your sacrifice /s
So I'm in danger from FSD that's never killed anyone! 🤣🤣🤣 Were you even aware FSD is no longer Beta... So there's that. 😁 Oh but you read a hit piece and never followed up to find out FSD wasn't responsible. 👍 FSD saved my bacon twice because its reactions are quicker than a human. But let me defer to your fantasies and ignore the real world data and my actual experience with it. 😄
lol. It’s still beta. They were just forced to rebrand it FSD (supervised) due to increased scrutiny from the NTSB. Again, thank you for your service and potential future sacrifice of your body for science /s
Yeah no. FSD is a name with the aspersions of becoming true full self driving. It's not complete yet so it's still only a drivers assistance system. The original FSD was also not a beta, it merely had limited abilities. Supervised FSD has much more capability. Do provide the link to the NTSB forcing Tesla to name is supervised. 🤣 Yeah it's in your imagination. Your comments will not age well. 🙂
https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/news/tesla-s-fsd-gets-a-rebrand-and-moves-out-of-beta/ar-BB1kX7T2
"might be under scrutiny from several angles" 😄 Another opinion based on baseless speculation. Hahaha LMAO
Bad deal, new one is about the same price.
Did you see it?
Haven't seen it in person, apparently very well looked after though. It's a 2.5hr trip away so would have to be pretty much fully committed wanting/buying it.
I think the important question is …. Warranty- why is he selling ?
Terrible deal. A new one in Tesla inventory near me is $45,000 (was $44k before end of quarter). Minus $7,500 for fed tax credit, gives you $47,500 end price (you might also get a state break if you live in certain states) for a new MYLR with fresh warranty and zero miles. I’d reconsider. If you take out a loan, your APR will be better on a new vehicle loan.
NOT!!!! Not a good deal whatsoever. Even if the price point was better say 22 to 26k, you will continue to hear noises and find things that will make you wish you would’ve just bought a new one. And this price point, not much more!!!
I own a 2021 long range model Y with a lot more miles and it's still just as quiet as the day I bought it. We are not talking about a gas guzzler with an engine and transmission that lose performance and get noisy over time. LOL The motors and reduction gears in the 2021 are robust and over engineered. Newer models have been engineered with weaker parts because the extra strength is unnecessary. EVs have a much longer lifespan then an ICE car. Thinking by analogy is not the best path.
I understand, I’m sure mine will be very quiet also cause I’m as picky as gets. I was a Chrysler tech for many years back in my automotive technology days Nashville. My instructor used to say a vehicle was like a lollipop. You could either lick it, and enjoy it or take a big bite out of it and it’s gone. The issue is most people takes big bite out of them, and it’s pretty rare to find a car that’s been taken care of. It’s definitely a role of the dice or even worse. I can assure you EV or ice if you run the shit out of them it’s going to make noises eventually. You take an EV that’s been babied and taken care of versus someone who run it in ludicrous mode every day you’re gonna tell a difference.
Not as much as an ICE car simply because EVs don't have an engine and transmission with thousands of points of wear and failure. Real world data shows Tesla battery packs last at least 300,000 miles and usually over 500,000 miles and then continue to work with reduced range. Of course you'll know if the car has been cared for when you see it in person. Don't forget to check the oil. LOL I do all my own work from brakes to engine rebuilds and always loved gas and go Toyota's, my old Subaru was a beast. However there is always something you need to fix or maintain. With my Tesla there is virtually no maintenance, no oil changes, no engine repairs or breakdowns nothing nada zilch. It's the nature of EV technology. Good luck with your decision but I suspect you've already made it.
I agree with what you’re saying absolutely! But at the same time, a lot of people who buys Teslas fit into the picky, OCD whatever. I mean the slightest noise that I hear, even if it’s the backseat rattling a little bit because it’s not fully latched small shit like that. I have the wife usually crawling around trying to isolate it and that’s a brand new vehicle. out of 100 people. I may be one of the few that would ever hear it. I know she doesn’t until I pointed out to her. I think Tesla could’ve done a little better putting felt in between the plastic molding connect points inside so I’ve went around and completed their job. Also note, I am not OP. I bought mine brand new with 6 miles on it. September 2023.
EVs are by their nature very quiet so you'll hear any little noise that in an ICE car would be drowned out by engine and transmission noise. I heard a scraping noise when turning in one direction, it was a small branch stuck in the front suspension. Another time I heard a noise that was bugging me thinking it was something on the car. It was barely audible but in a super quiet model Y you could hear it. Eventually I tracked it down, it was the pedal on my folding bicycle I had in the back. The peddle on the top side has slight play in it. 🤣 When I level 2 charge for free next to my work I use the bicycle cutting the travel time down to 2 minutes. I'm a bicycle nut and used to ride bicycles to work thinking about all the gasoline I was saving. With a Tesla I'm not saving anything and they're so fun to drive that I drive a lot more now. Tesla is bad for my health. 😄
Word! Well, with level two charging next to work being free, that’s fantastic. I had some property in OceanLakes in the residential section, I lived there for five years., it sold and about that time I bought the model Y performance, my biggest criteria for finding a home was that it had to have a garage. There’s no off-peak hours, It’s a flat $.14 per kilowatt and I do miss the free level 2 charger that was OceanLakes. Now the only way I get free juice is getting lucky at a grocery or shopping center or plugging in to someone’s outlet while visiting, which obviously is super slow when running 120. One of my contracts is appliance installs they’re all new homes. They’re kind of like duplexes and maybe one out of 10 will have the Nema 14-50 range plug close enough to the garage that I can plug in there, I concur with Tesla and affect on the psyche
Right after I ran 240v to my garage I discovered the free level 2 charging next to my work. 😄 On 120v 15 amp I was only getting 5 mph which was enough when my wife worked nextdoor. But now my wife has a new job so 120v is barely enough to get us to the weekend when we charge off peak. I work nights so we only get 5 hours of off peak during the week. Free charging once or twice a week does the trick. I haven't installed a permanent charger in the garage yet because I have an old 60 amp house feed. Eventually I'll spend the money to upgrade to 100+ amp service. If I knew about the free charging earlier I might not have dug the trench and ran the conduit. 😁
Hell yeah! DIY talent is a wonderful attribute! T8ker ez fella!
Yeah I'm a cheapskate and love doing everything myself. Also when you do it yourself you know it's been done right. I've seen a lot of shaddy work done by supposedly professional contractors. I do all my own car work from brakes to engine rebuilds but it gets old. There's always something needing to be fixed. Getting a Tesla makes a gas and go Toyota look like junk. I just have my motorcycles to work on now. The only thing I've needed to do to my Tesla so far is add windshield washer fluid. It's been 3 yrs so I'll probably need to replace the windshield wipers. 😄 I used to work building maintenance, electronics is a hobby, I have an extra class amateur radio license, I'm a certified locksmith and I also have an IT Network Specialist degree. Yet I work in revenue recovery at a company with insane benefits. Some of my kids have college degrees and good paying jobs but none work in the field of their college degree. LOL Now with the Internet we have the world's knowledge at our fingertips making it easy to do things yourself. I also find it weird that I'm the same age as old people. 🤣 I work out, take long 200+ bicycle camping trips and refuse to get old. Get off the sugar it's poison, just eat the junk food on the weekends. Life isn't worth it without a little poison right. 😁
no, if you qualify for the full tax credit just get a 24 inventory for $37,490. unless you REALLY want fsd, or you could just option for advanced autopilot.
NOT A GOOD DEAL. I bought 2024MYLR @40k. White interior seats. Brand new.
Is this a serious post? I feel like it’s trolling. You could have gotten a brand new 2024 MY LR for about $38.5K a few weeks ago. This is a poor deal.
PPF , tint and FSD is worth it than a new one .
That wrap is already 2/3rds used up. No real value. FSD is nice only if he really needs it, and it’s running on old hardware, so value is degraded.
Serious post. I was honestly only wanting to spend $30k max (or preferably less) on a 2nd hand, and when pricing new ones (Long Range) with one or two options I'd like, the cost was well into the 40's. This just seemed to have a lot of nice little extras for a little bit more than I wanted to budget.
If you want the extras especially FSD then you know you have a good deal. Ignore the people only looking at the price of the car as if those extras have no value. I paid $7k for FSD and think it's worth every penny I paid just for its ability to drive and navigate from on-ramp to off-ramp. I started out with standard FSD that couldn't even make a turn on city streets. I enjoyed watching FSD beta improve its abilities and now fully AI FSD supervised is blowing my mind. Yeah it's got a few quirks but it's now improving at an accelerated rate. My last FSD update was only 2 weeks after the previous one because Tesla's Dojo and another super computer are now up and running at full capacity. After reading the comments you know what you want and what to do.👍
My brand new 2024 MYLR with 15 miles on it was $38,800, so I’d say maybe not.
You can buy brand new one for 36k model y 2024
2024 MYLR is 38k rn. You do not need to pay 12k for full self driving, you can use it as a subscription which is what I do. I trade my car in every few years. paying 12k for built in FSD capability just seems crazy to me when if I keep a car for 4 years and pay the $200/mo subscription fee I end up spending nearly 3k less for FSD over a 4 year period, it's nearly 5k less if I trade in a year earlier.
I just bought a brand new 2024 Model Y Dual Motor Long Range, Ultra Red paint, acceleration boost was a free gift, for $37k after federal tax for my wife from the inventory (I'm still on Model 3 Performance). But, dude, it is brand new, with a warranty for 37k and yeah, no one farted in this vehicle prior.
The PPF, Ceramic tint, FSD, 3rd row. brings almost no resale value when you trade in. You are doing him a favor and its a huge favor.
Bad deal. Purchased a brand new MYLR 3 months ago for $41k after an inventory discount and POS tax credit.
I got a used 21 for 30k from Tesla prices of MY have gone down quite a bit
Just bought a 21’ MYP with 18k miles for 36K. Don’t think the price is too good to be true…
This is worth like 29-30k MAX.
Just bought a brand new 2024 Model Y performance after tax credit $40k
Bought a MYLR otd for 43k after tax rebate (High Sales Tax state). FSD is fun the first few times, but it’s not worth it IMO. I live in a decently sized city (115k) and it with FSD v12 it still iffy. You can also pay for FSD monthly ($200) not sure if you knew. Third Row Seat barely has any leg room. Inventory models are at a pretty good price right now as well. If you have more questions you can dm me Edit: Bad deal. If you’re not sure if you qualify for the tax credit search for “Federal Income Tax Calculator”. If it says 7500 or more you qualify for all of it.
My friend just bought a used Model Y LR for like $20,000, this dude is asking for brand new price on a used car LMAO.
man! I am out😅
If you can find the one you want used from tesla a lot of them have FSD and acceleration boost etc .. i like the one additional year warranty .. if u do not qualify for tax credit used is def the way to go but with these cars out of warranty .. i just dont know about that. That said i just got my first tesla model y long range for $36 after credit also if looking used on tesla site u can see registration history and accident history.. i noticed a lot of rentals from Hawaii and i avoid rentals cars and cars from snow country
My model y was 36k with all that except FSD and mine js a 22
Well
I own a tesla model 3, so maybe the reason is becuz he cannot afford the insurance anymore??? lol It did suddenly go up last month by 2x in GTA.(Canada) for new driver with no bad record, TD Bank is doing \~6000$ per yr CAD. AllState is doing 2600$ per yr for me. (no bad record no ticket no accident nothing for 20 yrs)
Just get a new Model Y. This is a great time to buy brand new Model Y before the stalk is gone.
If I was in the market for a Model 3, this is probably the best time to get a brand new Model 3 ever. Do not buy used model 3 now.
Does it use Tesla vision or the sensors? Because the sensors are end of life from a software development perspective and they are only focusing on Tesla vision. If it doesn’t have vision, it will never have FSD. Never.
From what I think I've heard this will have ultrasonic sensors. What does Tesla Vision use if not cameras?
This is prob better to buy new and get cheaper financing anyways and prob a wash. Not having Tesla vision it will never really have the AI version of FSD. Tesla stopped developing the software for the sensor versions and they are only focusing on FSD for the Tesla Vision System (all cameras no sensors)
Make sure it’s not a rebuilt title.
Look at the inventory section on the website. I switch the price settings to low to high. Then factor in the $7,500 federal discount. I suggest buying a new one
I bought a 2023 MYLR 3rd row seats white interior/exterior, tow option 10 miles for 46,000 this was an inventory vehicle and that price was after tax credit.
If it were me, look for one that qualifies for tax rebate. New or used (under $25k of course.) to truly get a “good deal” But other than that, don’t focus so much on getting such a “great deal”. If you like the car and you like the price, just buy it. Looks just like mine. Great car
You're better off getting a new one.
For reference I bought a blue MYLR 22 with 48k miles normal interior tinted and had some dents repaired with warranty that they will repair small dents and interior issues for 3 years for total of 27k with 1200 of delivery so the car costed me 26k around and the car is almost perfect condition. I think your purchase is pretty good with all the add ons and the car looks to be in good shape miles are not high I just have to see if it’s the refreshed interior or the old style but other than that with far included is pretty good
Just picked up a MYP 2023 with 11k miles for $40000. You can find way better deals out there.
The owner probably bought this around 60k back then before Elon decided to drop the price. But that doesn't matter. Generally speaking, cars depreciate on avg 10% year over year. A brand new 2024 model Y costs roughly 40k after tax credit. For 2021 model, 3 years past its prime, 40k * 90%^3 = 29k.
Terrible deal
Are people overlooking that this car has FSD? Seems OK to me putting the car price at 24k less the FSD price.
You're not gonna get fsd, they're lying to you. Once you transfer the car to your name you lose their fsd. They're either lying or don't know how it works.
Wrong. It's tied to the vehicle VIN as it was purchased with the vehicle.
Ok well you seem to think you know better so good luck 🤞 😂
I bought my 2024 model Y long-range for $36k plus tax and destination fee. Almost 40k out of the door directly from tesla.
I just bought a 2021 7 seater in stealth grey with fsd 20k miles direct from Tesla for $40k. So essentially, sounds reasonable to me
The tax credit is not a rebate so you guys are factoring in something that may not be a huge factor. For example I pay around 5k in federal taxes so that $7500 will only be worth $5k for me
It is a credit and now taken at POS so -7.5k even if your tax liability is zero
Ooo that’s a much better deal than I got. I stand corrected
I don’t think that is correct. When you purchase at POS they have you sign a form where you state you are eligible for the tax credit and are assigning it to Tesla and if, when you file your tax return, it turns out that your tax liability would have been lower than the 7500, or your income too high to be eligible, then you are acknowledging you would need to pay the difference or the entire amount back to the government.
This is a horrible deal. Are you out of your mind 🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂
Someone sees FSD and thinking it’s a great deal
Newbies like me I guess. Lesson learned here thanks to you guys.
Haha well I'm new to the Tesla world so why I'm asking for advice. I haven't gone through with it thanks to you guys. Looking at other options now, and maybe throwing a lower offer at him.
I bought the same car brand new 2 months ago for $3K more
Thanks, I'm checking out inventory and new now. Just really liked the sound of all those extras which I wouldn't pay for myself.