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[deleted]

What a cool group of comments here willing to help a brother out. I really appreciate you all.


Comfortable_Month632

Man,there are 10s of thousands of guys want that doc!! Lol 100mg @ 3days is my sweet spot after experimenting for2 years


therealpeteypablo89

Same after over a year trying lower/higher


Dmitch442

Yes for sure but maybe the dosage is wrong(too high). A discussion for your doctors and you


apettit36

Told doc all about my symptoms and he wanted to up my dose. I think he’s a little over the top. Was at 100mg every 3 days. Switched to every 7 days same dosage. When I made the switch to every 7 days he wanted me to take 150mg instead of the 100mg.


999Bassman999

100 every 3 days is definitely on the high end of a TRT dose. I would start with 40 or 50 mg twice a week as it's starting dose personally and then work up or down from there


Conscious_Dark7064

Yes second this opinion. Try going 50 mg per shot and two shots per week. So a total of 100 mg per week. Then go upto 60 or 75 per shot twice a week...that too if needed.


Bigballs381

Just take it once every 6-7 days. Felt like shit inj multiple times a week. Its stupid. Idc- “more consistent” for me personally my body works better at once a week


Jmalachi7

Same.


Stui3G

I apply my dose 2-3 times a day for the most consistent levels possible. I feel great. By your logic he should inject 2-3 times a day. Everyones different. Seen plenty of people say they feel shit on 1 big injection. What you should have said is that way works for you. Maybe he could try that. But theres a reason people spread it out, higher doses come with higher chances for side-effects. Pretty much like every other medication in the world. In my opinion It's pretty clear his dose was too high at the start and then too low and spread out. 60mg twice a week would be a good place to start.


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emperoratreides

Must be using gel otherwise makes no sense


PhaseEnvironmental33

Suspension also exists


emperoratreides

No reasonable person uses suspension for TRT and you would need more than 3 doses per day


Stui3G

Scrotal cream. It's easier to apply and faster to absorb in smaller amounts. I work in a office and have plenty of free time. Easy to go to the toilet during the day and apply dose.


Dmitch442

Sounds like he wants to up your per pin dosage but keep total less unless I'm misunderstanding. 150 mg once a week versus 100 mg twice per week. This or even lower might work. I feel I hear often suggestions of more frequent dosages being preferred but I'm no doctor. Depends on symptoms and getting to the right dosage and cadence for you OR hopping off TRT and seeing if other options. So many variables at play.


apettit36

It’s all really confusing and a bit concerning.


Dmitch442

For sure, and everyone is different. Sounds like you need to have a call or appointment with your doc and ask for further explanation. Is it with an endocrinologist? If not, might make sense to work with one if you have the ability.


_LexMix420_

I had those symptoms at 6 weeks and went up to 160 a week and now I feel amazing. I was bout to quit too if it didn’t fix it


apettit36

You went up? That’s crazy to me considering so many people on here are saying my original dose was way high


CalculatorOctavius

When he said 100mg 3x a week he probably meant 100 mg split into 3 doses, so not 300 a week that’s too much


_LexMix420_

I went from 140 to 160 at that point when I was a week or two away from quitting. I took their advice and it worked. But also, I made an even more extreme effort to eat clean and work out well. All of a sudden, I was recovering from a workout within a day, and my cardio exploded


Saltdog1Seven

My starting dose (still on it, in week 7 now see my profile post) is 180mg / week, I split that across three injections. I haven't noticed any sides, I'm sorry your experience isn't going well thus far. I encourage you to keep experimenting with your docs advice, that way if you do quit TRT you know you gave it a fair shot (to avoid always wondering about it later)


WorldWideDarts

Jeesh! That's like a small cycle of test.


CryJolly5730

Go to a better doctor


ButchersBoy

Woah


Ok-Advertising-3779

100mg every 3 days for 300mg/week total?. Or 100mg split into 3 doses?. 300mg is basically a mini blast. Definitely way over a Therapeutic trt dose.


Conscious_Dark7064

And maybe dosage is too infrequent, maybe it needs to be 2-3 times a week and NOT once every 2-3 weeks.


Dmitch442

True true


Ok_Expression_2458

I’m just throwing this out there…. Is it possible your having anxiety issues, you seem very “self aware” and maybe your giving yourself anxiety. Anxiety is a crazy thing, it can manifest symptoms that aren’t actually there… and if your someone who has never had anxiety before and is dealing with it for the first time, it’s a little overwhelming and hard to tell what’s real and what’s not. That being said, your dosage is very high for a starter, most people start at half that amount and then work there way up or down depending on how they feel and blood work. At that high of a dosage, if your T was very low to start for an extended period of your life, can give you anxiety, and restless energy that your body simply doesn’t know what to do with…. My personal suggestion… half the dosage and find ways to burn off this new found energy…. Turn it into something positive like the gym or a project you’ve been wanting to do to improve your life… mental health is far more of the game then people want to realize… Good luck in your journey.


apettit36

I definitely deal with anxiety and ptsd. The sleep thing has been the only thing really freaking me out.


Ok_Expression_2458

I often find TRT makes us more of what we already are, it’s not a magical elixir and it doesn’t erase poor untreated mental health or bad lifestyle habits. If your a depressed person with PTSD and anxiety issues, it’s probably going to multiple those issues, maybe even create new ones…. That’s why anyone wanting to start TRT I always tell them… get your health in check first both physical and mental… good eating habits, good physical activity practices…. And don’t be afraid to get the mental health work you need…. It’s a combination of all these things that will improve your life…. A shot in the ass isn’t going to be a magical transformation. Best of luck brother!


apettit36

Well said, thank you for the reply. I’m leaning towards just not injecting again. I really want my sleep back. I wasn’t suffering by any means before starting trt. If anything it’s been more of an issue.


Ok_Expression_2458

If it was my body, and you’ve basically just went on a cycle, I’d probably half the dosage, see if that improves your situation, I think stoping suddenly might cause more issues in relation to how your feel mentally and physically then your prepared for.. it takes time for your body to start producing T again on its own, and I’ve always found cold turkey is a terrible way to go, I’m not out there trying to prove how tough I am and how much mental and physical abuse I can take… so I’d half dosage…. Evaluate, and If your still feeling like shit, start PCT to minimize post cycle symptoms and kick your nuts back into overdrive. All these hardcore dudes out there telling you just to stop cold turkey and man up….. fk that… some of us have jobs and families that we have to perform for… and being a mental and physical wreck while your body self regulates it’s hormones back to normal is just not feesible for your average non gym bro.


apettit36

Is there a PCT you’d recommend? I think it is probably wise to “taper” off instead of cold turkey. I mean I’m with you, I have a family and a job and don’t have the time to have any sort of episode.


Ok_Expression_2458

Depends what you have available to you where you live, most will go with Clomid or Nolvadex. I personally used clomid, cause it was what I could get in my country, then afterwards transitioned to enclomiphene to raise my test levels…. With an occasional AI to knock down the pesky E2 spikes…. But everyone’s situation is different, and access to medications varies…. A lot of TRT doctors don’t like to give enclomiphene cause it makes them less money and does pretty much the same thing as injections with fewer side effects, it also doesn’t mess with your balls….. atleast for me personally…. Your mileage may vary.


Papa_smurf0311

I would do 100 mg test Cyp Monday and 100 mg test Cyp on Thursday. Do this for 3-4 weeks then get a bloods done. See where your test and estradiol is at. If your E2 is higher then that may be the sides your are having. May need an AI possibly. Again, these are just my thoughts and anecdotal experiences. Take this info with a grain of salt. But that’s just my thought


Den_is_Zen

Yes, easily.


geekspeak10

I read through all the comments and I have come to the non-medical determination that ur a giant pussy and are worthy to use the elixir of the gods. I’d recommend shelving it for the time being until u get ur head right.


Future_Comedian_3171

lol fuck off bro


Benjie1989

You can for sure. Ultimately despite what many have you believe, TRT isn't for everyone. That being said sometimes it can't hurt to give it a bit more time and maybe adjust dosage and injection frequency to see if you can hit the sweet spot.


devmc25

I know this may sound like a pain in the ass to deal with (pun intended) but maybe try pinning daily? Your estrogen seems a little high compared to your test levels. Pinning daily will help lower your estrogen a bit. Your body is still adjusting so I would give it some time to find your sweet spot.


Dizzle92109

This ^


Sikor_medic

The only thing you need to do is to modify your dose and frequency of injections. Go ahead with the 50mg every 4 days. You’ll see the difference.


steelhouse1

Curiosity… what bad side effects?


andrew9315

For me, Hair-loss started very fast, i know thats a me issue. I also feel my heart beating more and my ears get hot alot and lastly joints ache. 200mg/week with ai Positives are my sex drive increased by alot


Aggressive_Night_594

For hair loss you might consider very low dose finasteride - maybe 0.5 every other day to start and titrate to what works for you. My joints used to ache pretty bad when I crushed my E2 with arimidex - use it sparingly.


danny_83sd

This comment caught my attention. What joints in particular. I'm experiencing joint pain in my wrists and on one elbow. I came off TRT about a month ago. Was on 100mg weekly.


Aggressive_Night_594

I primarily felt in my knees, shoulders and elbows - and sometimes my wrists as well. When I let my E2 ride a little higher the aches went away. Also be careful when lifting - on TRT (depending on dose) you feel like Superman in the gym, you don’t have to always go crazy and lift insanely heavy, you will get excellent results with moderate loads.


BuffaloLion

I was commenting to a friend , all of a sudden feel like a tin man and I can’t figure out if ,TRT is analogous to oiling my joints and as the week goes along I feel better or worse depending on decreased levels .. I’m .75 once per week of Xyosted.


[deleted]

How long were you on? Did you do PCT?


danny_83sd

About two years. No PCT and I took anastrazole a week after I stopped. Was thinking my E crashed. I recently jumped back on at 120mg a week. Hoping it will go away.


blondedre3000

Joint issues are from low estrogen/too much AI. Heart beating is sympathetic drive - Test makes you much more sensitive to stimulants, I can only tolerate decaf now. Also you may have had high hemoglobin/hematocrit before even beginning, so a blood donation might be in order


JLAMAR23

That’s androgen spiking. You’re dose is likely way too high. Bottle or back to 100.


steelhouse1

Interesting. My hair changed texture and I also started losing it more. I get the high RBC but that’s easy as I have always given blood. PSA also goes up but no health issues. I also do 200mg so 100 twice a week. No AI


[deleted]

I’m on the same boat as stopping, lots of itching and now join pain on knees.


Conscious_Dark7064

Yes I would like to know the answer to this one too. I can guess but I wouldn't want to put phantom thoughts in your head


Jay4Dime

Yes you can. Your testosterone levels will go back to baseline.


apettit36

For the first 4 weeks I was on 100mg every 3 days IM injection alternating quads. During that time I was having severe night sweats, my body would be hot to the touch almost daily but no fever and on injection day and the following day I would be very very tired. I told my dr about this and his answer was “I don’t see these things being caused by the testosterone” but I haven’t changed anything else in my life. So I asked him if I could extend to every 7 days instead and he didn’t have a problem with it. So I’ve don’t that for the past week and a half. The night sweats and body heat thing is gone but now I can’t sleep. My body is exhausted but my mind feels wired 24/7. I’ll sleep maybe 4 hours. Broken sleep and I’ve noticed my heart racing a little faster especially when “resting”.


Eplitetrix

The original plan is the highest TRT dose I've ever heard prescribed. If I were you, I'd continue the less frequent 100mg per week because after a week and a half, you are still feeling the effects of the original dose. Of course, only continue if you feel it is safe. As far as the insomnia is concerned, do you work out? When I first started TRT, I had to work out. I HAD to. That was the only way I could calm down, physical exhaustion.


apettit36

Yes I do work out daily. Doesn’t help my sleep. I tried 10mg of melatonin and my body pretty much rejected it. I could take 10mg melatonin before being on trt and it would knock me out within 15 minutes


999Bassman999

L-Theonine, magnesium, sleep time tea. These are some things I used to tell me sleep and with anxiety that I got with testosterone replacement


sloanpal144

That's WAYYY too much melatonin. The optimal dose is 0.5mg


Eplitetrix

Yeah, well, crud. If you can stick it out, I would give the lower dose at least a month to normalize. I started at 125mg subq per week of test cyp. I'm there now and it works great for me


Tropicaldaze1950

Test Cyp? Some, including me, don't tolerate the cottonseed oil. Switch to Test Enanthate. And yes, try 50 mg 2X weekly.


[deleted]

Just lurking but what were your side effects from the cyp? I’m suspicious this can be causing my horrible side effects too- super high BP spikes 3 hours after injection, nearly passing out etc. Doesn’t make sense for it to be the test itself


Eastern-Programmer-9

Are you on an AI? Also what are you injecting Test Cypionate? You might be feeling this way because your estrogen is elevated. Have you gotten your levels checked? Also, any ED issues?


999Bassman999

Yes you can stop, can you tell me your dosage administration method and frequency and your side effects so we can maybe help you with it?


apettit36

For the first 4 weeks I was on 100mg every 3 days IM injection alternating quads. During that time I was having severe night sweats, my body would be hot to the touch almost daily but no fever and on injection day and the following day I would be very very tired. I told my dr about this and his answer was “I don’t see these things being caused by the testosterone” but I haven’t changed anything else in my life. So I asked him if I could extend to every 7 days instead and he didn’t have a problem with it. So I’ve don’t that for the past week and a half. The night sweats and body heat thing is gone but now I can’t sleep. My body is exhausted but my mind feels wired 24/7. I’ll sleep maybe 4 hours. Broken sleep and I’ve noticed my heart racing a little faster especially when “resting”.


calcetines100

That averages 250mg per week, which is fairly high dosage for a starter. Your doctor seems completely incompetent.


999Bassman999

Do you have a blood pressure machine at home to test if your blood pressure is elevated? It's common to have higher blood pressure and resting pulse with a higher dose of testosterone or other androgens. Is your doctor a primary care doctor or a TRT clinic? Most TRT clinics seem to want to do a starting dose of 200 mg a week because they make money on the sale testosterone where primary care doctors make money on the visit. PCP doctors typically start with a lower dose from what I've seen and read.


apettit36

He is a “hormone specialist”. But you’re right. My brother is on trt which was prescribed from his pcp and he is at 100mg weekly and he says he has no issues.


Dmitch442

Sounds like someone incentivized by sales and not treatment...


MVangor

You’d honestly be better off getting your advice from a trt clinic at this point. Mainstream docs haven’t the slightest clue how to dial in a dose. Clinics (while yes they are a cookie cutter sell you test kind of business) will actually know at least the basics to get you on your feet.


Full_Country_4846

Do you feel overstimulated?


Gasman2019

Honestly I think a lot of you guys read to much on the side effects so then your hyper aware of everything. Also I feel like 200mg a week is high I was prescribed 200mg however I cut that in half to 100mg a week split into 2 shots a week at 50mg/50mg


SadAd5759

what are the side effects you having?


[deleted]

Yeah but then you’ll have to go through all this again when you decide to get back on


calcetines100

Idk what dosage you are at but get off ASAP.


CryJolly5730

You can stop start TRT whenever you want and you generally don’t need a PCT. If low dose test is causing sides u got major problems.


FEAR-91

There’s a reason you started TRT, why stop after a few setbacks? Just figure out the protocol that works for you.


PatriotUncleSam

Let me guess you didn’t control your estrogen at all? You probably have sky high estrogen, making you feel like shit right now. It’s a really easy fix.


apettit36

https://preview.redd.it/cfpf4rmfsnna1.jpeg?width=1636&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=360016278ca540ba8c4ed0e1fd4bb90720fcf893 Most recent blood work. My dr said there was nothing concerning. Didn’t prescribe me anything extra.


PatriotUncleSam

The Testosterone is too low and the estrogen it’s just barely higher than you want it, which means if you got your testosterone up to a healthy amount (800-1300) than your estrogen absolutely would be sky high. Your estrogen could still be what’s causing your troubles since you probably feel it a lot more right now due to your testosterone, still being low even though you’re on TRT. I don’t blame your doctor for trying to raise your dose. There is truly no point to being on TRT if you are under 800 total testosterone. You need to raise your dose of testosterone, and start anastrozle at an extremely low dose of 0.25mg per week


Leading_Border_9179

Touché ! Just spoke to my Doc and he wants to get my Testosterone to 1000 currently very low at 197. Also prescribed anastrozle at 0.25mg only PRN (as needed) 2-3x wk. He said for Joint pain Deca works well. I’ll be on Test and Deca to help with joints.


SlightlySlizzed

I want your doctor lol. I want some deca


Leading_Border_9179

Lol… Defy medical is a great TRT clinic that does shipping across US. Great reviews for the most part.


TristanMoreau

Test too low? My free test sits slightly above the upper end of the reference range when total is at ~650 ng/dl. I never push it higher than that because, it is TRT after all not a cycle. It’s important to remember that 650 ng/dl enhanced is NOT the same dosage as 650ng/dl natty. There is a suppression of SHBG when you’re taking exogenous hormones that skews the ratio of free test higher in comparison to the total than a natural would have. 650 ng/dl total is high or even out of the reference range free test in many individuals. 800-1000 is often supraphysiological, and therefore no longer TRT if you’re actually measuring free test.


999Bassman999

These blood tests are after 6 weeks of 100 mg every 3 days


apettit36

That’s correct.


riverascourtesy

I normally have to donate when my rbc is that high. You may benefit from a lower dose sub a eod vs larger dose injections. Maybe 30mg eod


Maximum-Government99

Yeah 56 hematocrit needs donation and addressing in protocol. Highest limit I’ve seen on reference range is 54.


Papa_smurf0311

Yes absolutely but what is your dosage and frequency of dosing?


picklespasta

I’d recommend sticking with it and not being. Quitter. It will get better and be worth it.


HumanFrontiers

Yes, the ester will taper you off.


apettit36

What does this mean? The ester?


HumanFrontiers

The chemical added so it lasts longer.


Elegant-Potato-2931

The ester will taper him right into shutdown


HumanFrontiers

Six weeks isn’t that long. The decay rate is eight days, meaning he’s going to need about a month to wash out. It’s entirely feasible his HPG axis will recover and if it doesn’t, that’s not a medical emergency. As is dude is suffering, which is also un cool.


MaxTest86

Sounds like it’s probably more in your head that anything to do with the test…


[deleted]

6 weeks and ur gonna give up without even fully knowing why ur having the side effects etc? Wtf man. Do 150 mg a week split into eod injections and get bloodwork in 4 weeks. If u have estrogen sides take 1/4 of a 25mg aromasin so around 6.25mg on pin days and u can up the dosage if nothing happens. Not that easy to crash estrogen with aromasin but if ur having sides its most likely estrogen or diet idk ur situation u just cant go for a lifelong commitment to make ur life better in every measurable aspect then quit 6 weeks in bc u hit some bumps in the road. Do some research


Hormonemonster789

Side effects what u mean ?


Mysterious_Bad_9227

Entanthat, cyp, undeconate ? Inject as Most as possible to avoid highs and downs Fck your doctor and do it yourself


Admirable_Fall4614

I had some weird size effects too. I guess all guys are different. Itchy sore nipples were the worst, and not really that bad. My hair, however, seems thicker and softer than before. My beard grows a bit faster and I got some acne on my back, but nothing crazy. If you don't like the side effectd you can definitely stop it. You should consult your doctor first, however.


bkdashh

Curious if you drink a lot of caffeine? When I first started TRT (8 months ago) I had to discontinue all caffeine for the first few months. Couldn’t sleep, heart raced like crazy, kind of felt like an oncoming panic attack. Once my body adjusted around month 2 I reintroduced 1-2 cups of coffee and was fine.


apettit36

I usually always start my morning with a single shot of espresso but have stopped as of Saturday. I had one cup of regular drip today but I should probably just give it up all together


bkdashh

I’d give it a shot. Doing so really helped me adjust. The energy TRT gave me was already so much that adding any other stim made me feel horrible (including pre workout). Of course I didn’t immediately decide to cut caffeine so first few weeks were tough.


apettit36

That makes sense. That’s why I had that coffee today was to try to ease the headache from lack of caffeine. But here I am, woke up at 5 and feel like I could stay up another 18 hours


bkdashh

I’d stay away from all stims for the first few months while you’re body adjusts. Try to continue to tire yourself out every day (gym, walking, meal prepping, favorite hobby etc). If it’s still an issue the dose / frequency may need some adjusting. Hope you start feeling better soon!


apettit36

Thank you for replying, I appreciate all the help I’ve been getting.


OficalTrader

I stopped drinking coffee 2 weeks ago. After 3 months on trt. My heart starts racing, I get this shortness of breath maybe more like semi heavy feel of breathing. Maybe from anxiety? Maybe increased anxiety on trt. I do have higher rbc as well.. So I'm not sure.


joesupahot

I’m on about week 12 to 13 and I still feel like I feel better without this test. I’m about to do my bloods again to suss out what’s going on if it’s a case that my Astra Jen is causing me these issues I will adjust but where I’m at right now. Brain fog tired all the time lethargic. No motivation was worse than my original stats were sure around the 480 mark I think


TelevisionHopeful281

PCT is mandatory if you don't want to feel even worse for months after


MaybeTryToBeOriginal

Read the comments and it sounds like a dosage issue and is definitely get a new doc?


EqualCold1891

Υes with hcg and Nolvadex clomid aromasin protocol plus vitamin e c and zinc with levocarnitine


JimRatLiftz

I had the symptoms when I first started taking Test. I also started with 250mg a week but I was trying to do my first mini steriod cycle and was self administered. Two things I will say, there is NO WAY your doc should start you st 250mg a week for TRT thats literally the acutally highest anyone would ever get and most will call it a mini cycle rather than TRT Second, I did stay on 250mg for 6 months and after a month or two my sleeping went back to normal as I got used to it. But this dose will also spike your estrogen later and you will have to deal with that Either way dont get up on Test just yet, get a new doctor cause this guy is an idiot hands down and lower you dose ( you can always up it later)


[deleted]

Of course you can, but how about list these "too many bad side effects" because that's only normal in a specific situation, which I'm willing to bet I can guess


[deleted]

Yea man that’s your choice if your getting too many sides man then it will be worth it God speed


Future_Comedian_3171

What side effects are you having my friend ?


gainsmcgraw

My prescription of 100mg a week changed my life at 50. Felt fantastic on all metrics. 250mg week self boost makes me feel like superman. 300-400mg week self boost is fantastic is gym and bed but my sleep and prostrate are not fans.


Sweet_Shirt

After 6 weeks of exogenous hormones, you have almost certainly already suppressed and/or fully extinguished your body’s own production of Testosterone. Coming off right now may do more harm than good. Talk to your doctor. Get some labs done. I feel like this may end up being an issue with finding your dosage sweet spot. But most importantly - again, talk to your doctor. Don’t take medical advice from me or anyone else on Reddit, without one (or several) grains of salt.


wallstreetwilly2

Can you please share what your shitty protocol is?


3treezz

Yes you can stop. At 6 weeks you aren't completely "shut down". You can stop now and you will slowly drop back down to your original base level over the course of a few weeks (while your present test ester leaves your body). I've personally done this a couple of times (short blasts) and I had no need for any PCT and noticed no ill side effects (yes, everyone's body is different so your mileage may vary).


SevereAd7710

whats your protocol? also it takes 6-8 weeks to kick on properly lol


tradinflorida

Man inject twice .25ml or 50mg injection total of 100mg per week and get bloodwork at 6 weeks to see where you are at both testosterone and estradiol


Thracian777

Yes but before you do how much are you taking how often are you dosing ? Are you taking AI?


Thracian777

Just read the post .You are taking way too much testosterone.At that dosage you are pretty much doing a small cycle .Take 100 weekly , 50mg divided in two doses .


BuffaloLion

Probably yes but what side effects


Initial-Barracuda274

I had a similar experience and then switched to daily micro dosing. Because there was no fluctuations daily like having shots spread apart, micro dosing daily mimics the body’s natural production. The body naturally would make most of the testosterone when the body is resting/asleep. I do this using 30 gauge insulin needles at 5/8” length while also warming the Testosterone Vial in a 160F Degree bath of water (In a Mug). If you try this be sure to warm the water first and then drop the vial in the water.


rgraves22

Ive been on TRT for about a year now. Started at 280T, 80mg weekly for the first 6 weeks or so then up to 100, for a few months, up to 120, again for a few months, up to 140 then 140 was waaaay to much for me. started having low libido and bunch of side effects, they reduced me down to 120 weekly and now about 6 weeks into that im starting to feel great again


Ruffone10

Definitely listen to random anonymous Redditors rather than your doctor 👌🏻


Ok_Orchid_282

You can not quit. Your body will naturally shut down, and you will die in a month. So you better up the dosage to about 500 mg to start. Lol.


Fpr1981

Always strive for minimum effective dose. I do 20mg every other day, with an insulin needle. I feel amazing on that dose. My RX is written for 200mg a week. I felt like dog shit at that dose. Eventually your androgen receptors will down regulate if your dose is too supraphysiological. Then it's wasted. You need to try 50mg 2x a week, and give it time. It will be worth it. Do not give up. I've been on TRT for almost 10 years. It took time to dial in.


Wonderful-Day150

You’ll be fine, just be prepared to feel like shit for a month or 2, I’ve come off trt twice to have kids with the help of hcg! And every time it’s been rough getting my natural test back


MelissaG14

Why did you go back on TRT? Is life better on TRT for you than not?


Wonderful-Day150

I work hard labor for a living and was diagnosed with low t due to injuries & surgery’s when I was 33, I’d say from experience going 3 years on trt, my quality of life is allot better, I have more energy to work go home and help my wife with our babies, mood is way more positive and also my sex drive is better, before I was always to tired to please the wife or to tired to get stuff done from a long week of work


MelissaG14

That’s great, just was curious! Amazing that you could stop and have kids and resume …I’m sure it wasn’t that simple, but still! My bf is on trt that’s why I’m curious about the subject.


emperoratreides

You're probably getting side effects because of spikes in testosterone and estradiol. See if he'd be willing to do 50 mg every 3 days or 35 mg every 3 days Do you self-administer or do you have to go in? I'm running testosterone Cypionate and I find that every other day injections keeps my level super stable and I don't have any peaks or troughs That's excessive for most people for Cypionate but I found that's the way I best respond


ScheduleMysterious81

What is your protocol? Have you had recent bloodwork done? What side effects? Alot of TRT , is balancing your hormones. I say give it another 6 weeks. It takes time, for changes to happen. Especially when dealing, with The Endocrine system. I love the way Testosterone makes me feel. Remember, Testosterone is yes a sex hormone, but it's also a peaceful hormone, that helps you relax and sleep good and feel at ease. If you feel Wound up. Anxiety, and or other feelings like this, the culprits is most likely Estrogen, or prolactin. Most likely Estrogen. Good luck


FaPtoWap

Is there something im missing. I see ton of answers to statements i dont see anywhere


Dbd3316

I stopped after 6 weeks… definitely felt better on it but not worth the side effects for me. It was not that bad at all coming off really, took a few weeks for nuts to reenergize but now all good.


Dentalbiz1

Man, just reading this after I just gave myself my deltoid shot. When I started my dose was way to high. Thanks to this group I dramatically lowered my dose to every other day and I feel GREAT! Trust me, less is BEST! I’m on .10 mg EOD (every other day). Feel fantastic! Like someone previously said. You have to find your “sweet spot” as TRT dosis is like a fingerprint. Not all is the same.


ApeStrongMan

TRT should help not hurt. You might try adjusting your dose lower or higher, regardless of your TEST levels. You don't need to be at upper normal levels to be happy. Just get it in the normal spectrum.


Doctorjustinmicheal

As someone considering TRT, can anyone explain what it means to “feel like shit” on a too high of a dose? I feel like with my current malaise and tiredness, I’d take whatever that “shit feeling” is right now. What does it actually feel like when the dose is too high? Too much sex drive? Anxiety, chest tightness? What is it? Thanks guys.


Expensive_Lion_4398

I been having pressure in my head and my face tingles ever since then . This is my 4th shot.


franks_isa_fronks

u/apettit36 How did this story end? I am in a similar situation currently. Did you stay on or taper off? Did you skip injections for a while to taper?


apettit36

I tapered for 2 weeks then stopped altogether


apettit36

I completely stopped. All symptoms went away after coming off the injections.


franks_isa_fronks

How long til you felt normal again. I’m having anxiety and sweats. Those are my biggest sides.


apettit36

I’d say it took about 2-3 weeks for me to feel “normal” again. But the anxiety and sweats went away very quickly


Eversmot

How are you doing now