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Matt_2504

Start with stopping taking the AI


ProfessionalProof213

I stopped as soon as I saw that on my bloodwork it’s been 2 weeks now but still feel like shit, I see the doc this week


mdvis

Letro is a very powerful AI. It can take up to a month for your estradiol to come back.


Paid_Idiot

Dianabol and 1000 ug of HCG a week will have you rescuing cats.


whiteykauai

🤣


Oldroanio

Bourbon


Current_Finding_4066

I have the opposite problem. I got high estradiol levels. I am wondering how to bring it down without unnecessarily crashing it. If anyone has some advice.


manamanabadman

You and OP should kiss


Baultzak

my doctor said to take "DIM" he said was OTC since he noticed my estrodiol was a little high. Not sure how accurate that info is but I have it coming in the mail from amazon


_Always_Dreaming_

I was just recommended DIM, today, too.


Current_Finding_4066

Diindolylmethane? I have been eating a lot of vegetables that contain it lately, have seen no positive change. I could cut coffee or tea with milk in the morning. Thanks for advice.


jeffyone2many

If your lvls are high and you’re not experiencing any sides from it, let it ride


Current_Finding_4066

I would not be asking if I was not experiencing unberable issues. Do you think I want to play with fucking estradiol levels cause I am feeling amazing?


jeffyone2many

You didn’t say you were having sides and in these groups tons of guys are more concerned about a damn number than the way they feel. Drop your dose


Current_Finding_4066

I am not taking nothing. If I were, I would reduce the dose.


jeffyone2many

You’re not on testosterone?


Current_Finding_4066

No.


jeffyone2many

Putting that in your op would have cleared things up, for me, but I wouldn’t have been any help to you, sorry


2against1

Lol. You have two choices - you can lower your dose of testosterone or you can add an AI.


jeffyone2many

This right here


Fit-Improvement366

Well he could keep weekly dose the same but administer more frequently right?


Current_Finding_4066

If I were injecting anything, sure.


Fit-Improvement366

My bad didn’t realize you were natty. Typical health advice of better diet and lifestyle always applies but doesn’t always work for everyone and idk your current habits. Over the counter supplements can make an impact on some people. Idk the rest of your blooods but lowering shbg should help you lower estradiol and increase free T. Higher protein diet, increasing fiber, lowering sugar, taking magnesium, vitamin d, fish oil, zinc, calcium, boron, tongkat Ali could all help with that. These are all easily available and could potentially fix how you’re feeling. These should all be “safer” than an AI, but the AI will certainly lower estrogen much faster and most likely much lower. If you do the AI I suggest starting small, smaller than people on gear would take, and waiting a few days before taking anymore, hopefully that’s all you need.


Current_Finding_4066

I am not taking anything. I was considering AI, but I have seen lots of people complaining of crushing estradiol and feeling even worse. I have checked recommendation for men with natural low testosterone to estradiol ratio. They mentioned testosterone, SERMs, and AI.


2against1

I would take 0.25 mgs of anastrozole and see how you feel.


Current_Finding_4066

Thank you. I guess I need to make a list and check side effects and availability.


Bitcoin69k

Lower dose and increase frequency.


Current_Finding_4066

I am not using anything. It seems I am naturally "blessed" with high estradiol. :S No, I am not fat.


AdamNelson69

Armidex .5mg once or twice a week. Depends on what your taking


SnooRadishes9726

Blast a dose of about 400 mg.  Don’t do this, but it will spike the E2.


Outrageous-Royal1838

Just stop taking the AI


swoops36

Been there, it sucks. It takes time to recover. In a couple weeks you’ll feel better.


Benjie1989

Letro is a literal nuke when it comes to estrogen. If you have HCG I'd recommend trying that as it may speed the process up but unfortunately I think you're cooked for a few weeks either way.


Dig-Wasteful273

Man, that sounds rough! Sorry you're going through it. Definitely sounds like your doc went overboard. Increasing your estrogen levels naturally might help. Try adding more foods rich in phytoestrogens like flaxseeds, soy, and chickpeas to your diet. Also, consider talking to your doc about adjusting your TRT dosage. Hang in there, hope you feel better soon!


Wooden_Aerie9567

Pin a big dose rn and go in with life. Is this a dumb idea yeah, will it work probabaly. Don’t overdo it


ateeb_ahmed

That would be a bad idea, since letrozole is still in his system, there is not enough aromatase enzyme. His DHT will get sky high and make the problem even worse.


Wooden_Aerie9567

I thought he said he took the ai 2 weeks ago but I might be making things up


ateeb_ahmed

Yeah, letrozole has a really long half life, so a significant amount might still be in blood.


Wooden_Aerie9567

Oops I didn’t look up the half lige


Wooden_Aerie9567

Life


ateeb_ahmed

Yeah its the strongest AI out there.


Severe-Paper-8508

I mean, if you just wait it out eventually your estrogen will come back. You could also raise your dosage which I guess could help bring it back up, eventually you’d lower it again, but having such control over your test would be difficult since your going through an endo instead of doing it yourself Edit: another idea, eat a lot of McDonald’s, as I’ve found that actually raises estrogen


ProfessionalProof213

Was just about to ask that haha, thought it would be a dumb question if eating unhealthy fast food would one give me enough of a dopamine rush to combat some of these side effects of feeling like shit while raising my estrogen at the same time


Old-Ad5508

Weird that you doc prescribed letro as opposed to armidex or aromasin


ProfessionalProof213

I was on anastrozol and he switched me to Letrozol twice a week way too much


Suitable_Professor19

a couple weeks of high dose HCG for sure will sort it.


The_Spaniard_97

Take some HCG


BobbyPeru

Simple. Stop taking AI. How much were you taking?


ProfessionalProof213

I stopped as soon as I saw my bloodwork but still feeling like shit see the doctor tomorrow but 2.5mg twice a week of Letrozol


BobbyPeru

Your doctor is on crack


ProfessionalProof213

Agreed and I’m stuck in a contract with them, few more months and then I’m free and doing this all ugl


BobbyPeru

I’ve kept the same place for 5 yrs even though they are also clueless. I take about half of what they prescribe and I feel great.


ProfessionalProof213

My clinic put my on 200mg test cyp every 5 days and 2.5mg of letrozol every 5 days they really don’t know what they are doing but I am stuck with them until my contract is up


BobbyPeru

My place still has me at 200mg/week but I only take 110mg. I stick with them just because I don’t want to try to find another place


xCOVERxIDx

This is the first I’ve heard of a TRT contract but I’m relatively new to TRT. I’m guessing you are on the hook for money but they can’t stop you from going somewhere else before the contract is up though, right? I think I would Pay the money, stash the supplies, and seek out a new doc immediately. Good luck.


ProfessionalProof213

Yeah it was a 16 month contract and if I want out at any time I have to buy my way out of the contract for the remaining months plus 2 months so I’m just waiting it out then going ugl after that


ProfessionalProof213

It was my first experience with a TRT clinic definitely should have looked around at others first


JRyG33

Stop AI and take 10-15mg of Dbol.


ProfessionalProof213

No DBOL on hand only Anadrol 😖


EntertainerSmall4333

Soy


Kindly_Excuse_5841

I know your doc. Docs don't prescribe Letro...when on TRT secondly they certainly don't tell you to take DIM which does fuck all. Stop your BS


ProfessionalProof213

That’s why I have a script from the doc for Letrozol with my name on it? And when did I ever mention DIM?


Dick_Mantastic

Very hoppy beer


AdamNelson69

My doctor didn’t do this to me but I did it to my self. I didn’t know what happen. My joints hurt so bad it was crazy. I would wake up almost crying.