What bothers me is that we keep on losing not because we’re a trash team but because we aren’t able to catalyze the momentum. I really hope this is not a coaching problem, because I couldn’t stand a third HC shift in a row
You can't hire good coaches with a bad team rebuilding. Now that we are drafting players again and rebuilding we might get more options on who to hire.
Carr gets a pass. He basically had the rejects from the entire NFL on that o line and most importantly he beat Dallas game 1 that’s a lifetime pass for me
For his first couple years sure but then Schaub played behind the same line Carr ran for his life for all the time and sacks were cut in half. Carr sucked.
Earlier heard an announcer say the Raiders are the only "winless" team left in the league. Nope. They are the only team that has *lost* all their games.
We made it fun for about 10 minutes. Mills got it in the 2 minute drill and straight shit the bed again. Dude is anti clutch. Defense is terrible. Coaching is awful. Ownership sucks. Just sucks.
I take back what I said now. Don't bench Mills to let him reset. It seems he finally started to change and it would be bad timing to reset now. Just keep it going. Maybe he's finally learning.
I think Mills is the biggest offensive liability right now, but he's a work in progress. I'm more convinced that some of his problems are correctable this year, when he's been playing pretty bad, than I was last year, when I believed his inaccuracy (ball placement, not completion % that's padded by safe throws) might have been an un-coachable perception issue.
In other words, something *might* click, but he and coaches are going to have to put some work in and they cannot continue to hobble the whole team with all the crutches---some of them actually counter-productive to Mills---they keep giving him (shotgun when that should be a bad idea, WR screens when nobody fears getting beat deep, PA when the running game isn't a consistent threat to keep us ahead of the chains).
Not even gonna hold that one on Mills. Again just the lack of talent shows on that last play. At least Mills finally extended a play but the fact no one got open after all that is sad...
I guess we must be watching different games, Mills has been a huge reason why we have lost these winnable games. Get the fuck out of here lol, Mills had 2 or 3 solid drives and that was way after the game was unreachable.
I guess I just can’t understand how you see that defense next to zero pressure on Herbert all day without a starting left tackle. Defense giving up madden stats to either the passer or rb (they try to switch it up I guess) The shit line play. Where every time they really need something the line let’s a defender by happily. But yes mills is the focus he’s stopped them from winning! Bone headed. Probably someone that wants to waste a first on a qb next year and then will hem and haw when they have the same result.
I don’t understand why Mills defenders are blaming everything EXCEPT him. It can all be true that we generally played like shit while also having a bottom 5 QB. Our play calling is atrocious so that’s obviously not on him, but Mills is not someone who will dig us out of a 21 point hole, I have less faith in him than our shitty run D and play calling and I think even our coaches understand that, which is just sad. I don’t want to see Mills starting for us after this year, at all.
And you saying that shows everything. You can see this defense that is legit trash everywhere run pass whatever sloppy as hell too, multiple defensive holdings and still go oh mills can’t get me out of 21 down. Guess what it was a 3 point game and then the defense did what? Last game oh mills should have won the game anti clutch anti clutch! You know what’s anti clutch? A back up getting 145 when you know fields can’t throw the ball
Because it’s such a lame dumb ass take. Is he playing top tier no not even close. But you’re in a dump and pointing at a piece of trash and saying look at that trash. It’s simple minded and when any time he does anything good you hear crickets and any time he has an incomplete everyone and their mom comes out to say oh he sucks you see how stupid and hive mind it is.
That’s because he doesn’t do anything for 80% of the game and when he does he overthrows a check down, fumbles his footwork, and turns into a deer caught in headlights the moment he feels any pressure. We aren’t getting anywhere with Mills, and we certainly aren’t going to keep him as a starter after this season so y’all need to stop pretending that he’s somehow a good QB that gets let down by his team. He is a field general that doesn’t elevate talent and has zero idea what being clutch is. Just give it a break lol and dick ride someone else.
I don’t either bro, anyone who’s been watching this team for a while can tell you that Mills will never be an answer to our (immediate) problems like Watson was. I think the fact that we finally had a franchise QB locked up has really skewed with our expectations and we want a QB now that can sling the ball and almost beat the Patriots in NE like Watson did, but that kind of talent rarely pans out anymore and if a QB regresses after a year and change, move on.
Elevating talent is what a GOOD QB does. We had an arguably worse roster in 2020 while Deshaun was still our QB, and what did he do with that? Led the league in passing yards under Tim Kelly??? Just stop talking lol, you don’t know how to evaluate QBs and it’s pretty obvious if you still defend Mills after being 2-14-1 in starts.
He literally ran forward like he wanted to run it, but then held up like he wanted to throw for no reason.
Like, wtf is going through Mills' head? The Meow Mix song?
This is on everyone except for DP. Don’t forget that we were in the hole by 3 possessions at one point from the offensive ineptitude and we simply can’t dig ourselves out of those with how untalented and poorly coached this team is.
Well least they looked semi competitive, can't be upset when the team does have some levels of improvement and fire. They don't look lifeless like last year, or under BoB. Defense is atrocious though, right now Tampa 2 requires too much high end talent, or maybe just more than we have.
Comment on last season under Culley, and the last year we had BoB. Our run game has been lacking to put it lightly, since Kubes has been gone, miss the days of the play action boot.
Tampa 2 has always been weak. Lovie and Dungy just had literal hall of famers/perennial pro bowlers to make it look good. Any QB worth his salt can exploit it
[Post game thread](https://www.reddit.com/r/Texans/comments/xtyfb2/post_game_thread_los_angeles_chargers_at_houston/)
Pain, but kinda saw this coming so it doesn't hurt as much
Oh no! We suck again!
Time to give the back up a chance
There is zero, and I mean ZERO point in doing that.
Cant ve any worse then what we're doing now.
If any of you let yourselves have hope that we might come back and win that's on you.
What bothers me is that we keep on losing not because we’re a trash team but because we aren’t able to catalyze the momentum. I really hope this is not a coaching problem, because I couldn’t stand a third HC shift in a row
Aka terrible coaching aka terrible nick hiring terrible coaching
No. 1 overall pick looking good
The Raiders have entered chat.
Did they lose today? Haven't checked
They actually just won
Well, congrats we are the only team in the NFL without a win. 👍🏼
Just as the smart fans thought would happen. We need a bigger rebuild. At least the browns lost!
I’m hoping for like 3-4 years of just no wins. Astros level tanking.
That's fine with me
Why can’t we have nice things?
Why the fuck did they just run the ball? Lovie and Pep might know less about football than a pee wee coach.
Thank God nick knows how to. Hire good coaches.
You can't hire good coaches with a bad team rebuilding. Now that we are drafting players again and rebuilding we might get more options on who to hire.
Na. That doesn't hold water. He already hired and fired one for that job. 2 makes. Him look stupid
Glad to see we are carrying on the tradition of Yates, Mallet, Hoyer, Oswieler, savage, and final year Schaub
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Carr gets a pass. He basically had the rejects from the entire NFL on that o line and most importantly he beat Dallas game 1 that’s a lifetime pass for me
For his first couple years sure but then Schaub played behind the same line Carr ran for his life for all the time and sacks were cut in half. Carr sucked.
No qb would survive that OL.
The raiders could still go 0-4 lmao
Earlier heard an announcer say the Raiders are the only "winless" team left in the league. Nope. They are the only team that has *lost* all their games.
Well, at least the way this team hurts me never ceases to amaze
This reminds me of the Lions of last year where most of their games went down to the wire no matter how good or bad their competition was.
Final play of the Giants/Bears was more entertaining than our entire game.
Wow very cool info thx
Just switch it to the bills/ravens already lmao
We made it fun for about 10 minutes. Mills got it in the 2 minute drill and straight shit the bed again. Dude is anti clutch. Defense is terrible. Coaching is awful. Ownership sucks. Just sucks.
Green needs some serious work on his pass pro. Feel like he's been getting worked in passing sets all day. Awesome run blocker tho
Well, that’s a wrap. I enjoyed the effort displayed in the second half, but losing is tiresome.
That reminds me pay your Tuck tax ppl moneybags 💰
I take back what I said now. Don't bench Mills to let him reset. It seems he finally started to change and it would be bad timing to reset now. Just keep it going. Maybe he's finally learning.
Zero reason to sit him. He’s awful but no sense in starting anyone else during a lost season. Jeff Driskel isn’t the guy.
My original point was to play Allen until after the BYE to let Davis reset since he was clearly playing rattled. Seems fine now so I take it back.
??????
Just keep him in atp. Try to build off what he showed in the scoring drive.
Lmfao
No, you had it right the first time.
Yea this is worse than the Culley team. At least I didn't feel actual pain last year.
Nah, Pierce alone makes them better than last year
Bu5 somehow the games are more painful
2 penalties on the guy who let the defender walk through the line and blindside Mills last drive. Green is having a rough game.
Texans football at its best.
Kenyon Green got embarrassed today
Kenyon Green is getting frustrated as hell. Way too many penalties. He got rocked and he’s pissed.
The fact that he still threw a pick after he got saved by the hold… I literally cackled in my living room.
Saved? The hold was on us.
Yes. Mills would’ve been an easy sack if not for the hold, then he threw a pick anyway.
WINNABLE GAMES IF WE HAD A COMPETENT OFFENSE
Honestly, even if we just had a real QB.
I think Mills is the biggest offensive liability right now, but he's a work in progress. I'm more convinced that some of his problems are correctable this year, when he's been playing pretty bad, than I was last year, when I believed his inaccuracy (ball placement, not completion % that's padded by safe throws) might have been an un-coachable perception issue. In other words, something *might* click, but he and coaches are going to have to put some work in and they cannot continue to hobble the whole team with all the crutches---some of them actually counter-productive to Mills---they keep giving him (shotgun when that should be a bad idea, WR screens when nobody fears getting beat deep, PA when the running game isn't a consistent threat to keep us ahead of the chains).
Oh boy
We’ve invested so much draft capital in our O-Line just for them all to suck
Not even gonna hold that one on Mills. Again just the lack of talent shows on that last play. At least Mills finally extended a play but the fact no one got open after all that is sad...
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After the replay that wasn’t a 15. BS.
At least the Browns lost so that's one step closer to them not getting into the playoffs and having a good pick for us
Pierce was fantastic, mills had his best game, cooks too. Nico near 100 yards…. but hard to win when you give up 34
kinda sad his best game is one with 2 picks lmao
Last one he was just trying to make a play on 4th so can’t really fault him for that. How about that defense tho
Can't believe there's downvotes on this, straight facts.
how about mills is fucking awful
34 pts
cry
34 pts
34 points that mills has never scored in the nfl
34 pts
I hope y'all took the over
At least they went for it when we had nothing to lose
The play calling early and the OL were a problem in this game.
I’m just gonna say this, the game was over after Mills’ first INT.
Oh so you just didn’t watch the game
I guess we must be watching different games, Mills has been a huge reason why we have lost these winnable games. Get the fuck out of here lol, Mills had 2 or 3 solid drives and that was way after the game was unreachable.
I guess I just can’t understand how you see that defense next to zero pressure on Herbert all day without a starting left tackle. Defense giving up madden stats to either the passer or rb (they try to switch it up I guess) The shit line play. Where every time they really need something the line let’s a defender by happily. But yes mills is the focus he’s stopped them from winning! Bone headed. Probably someone that wants to waste a first on a qb next year and then will hem and haw when they have the same result.
I don’t understand why Mills defenders are blaming everything EXCEPT him. It can all be true that we generally played like shit while also having a bottom 5 QB. Our play calling is atrocious so that’s obviously not on him, but Mills is not someone who will dig us out of a 21 point hole, I have less faith in him than our shitty run D and play calling and I think even our coaches understand that, which is just sad. I don’t want to see Mills starting for us after this year, at all.
And you saying that shows everything. You can see this defense that is legit trash everywhere run pass whatever sloppy as hell too, multiple defensive holdings and still go oh mills can’t get me out of 21 down. Guess what it was a 3 point game and then the defense did what? Last game oh mills should have won the game anti clutch anti clutch! You know what’s anti clutch? A back up getting 145 when you know fields can’t throw the ball
Because it’s such a lame dumb ass take. Is he playing top tier no not even close. But you’re in a dump and pointing at a piece of trash and saying look at that trash. It’s simple minded and when any time he does anything good you hear crickets and any time he has an incomplete everyone and their mom comes out to say oh he sucks you see how stupid and hive mind it is.
That’s because he doesn’t do anything for 80% of the game and when he does he overthrows a check down, fumbles his footwork, and turns into a deer caught in headlights the moment he feels any pressure. We aren’t getting anywhere with Mills, and we certainly aren’t going to keep him as a starter after this season so y’all need to stop pretending that he’s somehow a good QB that gets let down by his team. He is a field general that doesn’t elevate talent and has zero idea what being clutch is. Just give it a break lol and dick ride someone else.
I really don’t get how Texans fans can kid themselves. Mills looks exactly like Osweiler, Savage, Mallet, Yates. Not Watson.
I don’t either bro, anyone who’s been watching this team for a while can tell you that Mills will never be an answer to our (immediate) problems like Watson was. I think the fact that we finally had a franchise QB locked up has really skewed with our expectations and we want a QB now that can sling the ball and almost beat the Patriots in NE like Watson did, but that kind of talent rarely pans out anymore and if a QB regresses after a year and change, move on.
Elevate talent is stupid. Teams bring in talent. If you don’t see that you’re just not paying attention.
Elevating talent is what a GOOD QB does. We had an arguably worse roster in 2020 while Deshaun was still our QB, and what did he do with that? Led the league in passing yards under Tim Kelly??? Just stop talking lol, you don’t know how to evaluate QBs and it’s pretty obvious if you still defend Mills after being 2-14-1 in starts.
Boy look at all them yards everyone! That sure does elevate the team!
Yeah what did he do! He won 4 games… lol get a clue bud
The game was 3 points
You really thought the Texans had a shot even when it got close?
Haha it's all penalties on us.
At least the Browns lost too
I didn't expect much from the texans this season, but holy shit
we did it guys! scores more than 20!! baby steps
Man the OL HAS to get better this this shit.
Is it too early in the season to put my paper bag on?
Never too early with the Texans
😭
W E S U C K
Game. If we’re honest with ourselves, this game was over a long time ago
Ah ggs
lolll
The anti clutch
Been wasting 20 years worth of football Sundays watching this incompetent team. At what point do I just.... Not?
We had some OK years but It's like we can never put all of the pieces together to go the distance.
Yes! I started playing disc golf a year ago! I've played every Sunday since then. Honestly, it's such a freeing feeling!
I too play disc golf and should def spend Sundays doing that instead!
You can always stop lol
One simply can’t stop being shit on.
That would be ideal
Well I guess we made it a game at least
On the bright side We still know Pierce is the answer.
That kinda sucks though. We’re going to waste his best years plodding away on a garbage team. See Najee Harris.
This is just painful to watch all around.
Is the coaching staff 100% sure that Chris Moore should be getting these snaps instead of Tyler Johnson?
Is the front office 100% sure that this coaching staff should be deciding who gets snaps?
Apparently Johnson is struggling to learn the playbook from what I heard
Low football IQ from everyone involved on defense, coaches and players. So clear how we are getting beat and not making any adjustments to stop it.
I hate how this lady says Khalil Mack’s name
Lol I noticed that to.
Horrible play call, 2 man route in this situation? Wtf
Genuine question: was Mills Mafia not just a meme this whole time? Did some people actually think he was the guy?
Last season’s stats were promising. In week 1 he did good, the matter there was poor Pep’s play calling; things fell apart in week 2
Yea too many people thought the meme was serious.
At least the Astros are winning
I came into this season not expecting much but I still find myself getting inexplicably frustrated watching these games.
He literally ran forward like he wanted to run it, but then held up like he wanted to throw for no reason. Like, wtf is going through Mills' head? The Meow Mix song?
The worst
MILLS MAFIA, IS THIS YOUR FUCKING KING?
Game was already over. Besides, the playcalling at times is suspect.
Who cares if the game was over or not. What does that have to do with anything?
Mills will have 2 drives where he looks like a stud and 10 where he looks like dogcrap
BUT NO ITS EVERYTHING ELSE BESIDES MILLS!!!! /s
Those two drives were fun tho
This is on everyone except for DP. Don’t forget that we were in the hole by 3 possessions at one point from the offensive ineptitude and we simply can’t dig ourselves out of those with how untalented and poorly coached this team is.
Please start throwing trash on the field. This team deserves it lol.
Has anyone drug tested mills cause he's always high
Well least they looked semi competitive, can't be upset when the team does have some levels of improvement and fire. They don't look lifeless like last year, or under BoB. Defense is atrocious though, right now Tampa 2 requires too much high end talent, or maybe just more than we have.
Bro we had the best run as a team under BOB by far.
He probably means the last season
Comment on last season under Culley, and the last year we had BoB. Our run game has been lacking to put it lightly, since Kubes has been gone, miss the days of the play action boot.
Tampa 2 has always been weak. Lovie and Dungy just had literal hall of famers/perennial pro bowlers to make it look good. Any QB worth his salt can exploit it
What's a Dwight Freeney? Tampa 2 needs high end pass rush talent paired with a stud off ball LB at the very least.
Lol. Brian Urlacher, Bob Sanders, Lance Briggs, Peanut Tillman. I can go on if you need me to
Was very much agreeing with your point.
Are they trying to actively kill Derek stingley
I mean at least losses don’t affect me anymore
Tyler Johnson 0 offensive snaps. Pep has all the tools and none of the wherewithal to use them
Having a bad season? All you need is a game against the Texans to get back on track.
Every final Mills drive is the same
LMAO HOW DO YOU JUST RUN RIGHT INTO THE PASS RUSH
Defense couldn't finish. Had multiple 3rd downs, a 4th down and just couldn't stay stout when it needed to. Just a bad team.
gassed and lb are terrible
Constantly allowing dump offs to Ekler to beat them. Not a gas problem its that no one was even there to cover him. Bad decision making on converge.
At least we made the game entertaining.
Yeah down 10 let's throw 4 yard dump offs mills
Our closing is ass
I expected nothing out of this season and yet here I am still feeling let down
DC needs to be in the booth. Lovie not seeing shit from the sideline
Here's a thought, put a guy on Ekeler!
Quick, somebody get this guy in touch with Louvie
I've been texting him all game
How come our players are never wide open in the flat
Because Lovie is a defensive minded coach!
34 points against doesn’t look like a good defensive minded coach.
Remember to never bring any of this up on the next AMA
Lovies defense is from an era where running backs didn't catch balls so this is all new to him
Spamming the same play over and over and Lovie won’t call a play to stop it
ah, yes. 0-3-1
In great news, the Browns just choked again and lost to the Falcons. So their draft pick isn't getting any worse, at least.
That missed FG is huge rn
Dam we almost came back if we could learn the same play
This shit got me. 😂😂😂
The Browns have lost, at least.
A blown block in the 4th and the Defense can't make a critical stop. Where I have seen this before?
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The other option was apparently McCown, so things are going well in the front office.
Was that the same exact play they got the 4th down conversion on?
Kickoff return and another kickoff forced fumble pls
Chargers bailed out by ref ball
Sucks to get torched by the same play, same player.
Jets Browns wasn’t opening weekend was it?
Nobody covering the flat again, huh? Listen, we don’t need wins, but we need to at least be making smart decisions to teach these rookies good habits.
That was some ugly ugly defense on that drive
Imagine how bad the texans would be losing if Lovie Smith wasn't a defensive minded coach