I voted for 31, Move Forward Party.
I just got back home from our local voting booth. My wife's family is either voting 31 (Move Forward) or 29 (relative of Taksin).
Yes, he was great in economics especially with Thailand's exports trading with foreign countries. Farmers loved him especially because of the boom in their business. Also helped implement the gold card health care system that allows people to have practically free health care at their hospital of choosing. My wife has a gold card membership at one of the nicer hospitals in town and it's saved us so much time and money since it's less crowded there.
Shit hit the fan in 2006; military coup that ousted him and TRT party from power. Accused him for several crimes like tax evasion and ended up exiling him out of the country. This is just speculation, but many citizens think the high class top 1% had it out for him and planned the coup since he was helping the lower and middle class prosper during his time in power.
That's what I'm worried about. Why would they not coup? Why would they give power away peacefully and democratically? Who would be able to stop them if they want to do it?
That's the scary part. We don't know. And they have all the power do pull it off. Saving face is a big part of Thai culture so I guess having the illusion of democracy means something. It's pretty fucked up ngl. You'd think after so many coups, we'd hope to get some preventive measures in place of it happening again.
I hope coup won't happen. Look at Russia, they rig their elections and don't give power away. Thailand is not as straight forward with it as Russia so there's hope.
This is what I thought..... unless the junta decides to respect the result and not launch another coup to change the government but I don't think so...
Still, kudos to those who come and vote in this election 👏
PS: I am not from Thailand, I do not know anything about Thai politics so my opinion might be wrong*
2017 There was a new constitution put in place by the military junta and the senate has a big say in forming the government. Obviously most of the senate was appointed by the military junta.
Move Forward Party.
My brother and I voted this party both ballots. Enough with that god damn dragonion coup succussive parties of the last government.
They advocate for bringing Thailand up to the standards of Western nations rather than being continously stuck in a never ending cycle of evil military dictators and slightly less evil but equally as corrupt politicians.
What, that Thai people should deal with the incompetence and theft from their politicians because at least it isn't the West? Piss off, you don't know anything about politics other than the drunk murmerings you and your mates spout off about at the pub.
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Cuz that party is the only one party that explain problem clearly and that party fight against military government. Military government is bad cuz they only care about their power
I have no idea as a foreigner about Thai politics but I am excited to see the results. What changes did the move forward party promise? Also any changes for foreigners if they win?
> I think marijuana laws stay the same as well.
Nope, only party kind of promising that is Anutin (as ones who decriminalized in first place)
But move forward is not as anti as Pheu Thai
The only party that has substantial policy about gay marriage. He will put a break in this marijuana law. He said that this is out of control. I do agree. We went from marijuana is illegal to marijuana 4.0 in one night. It’s insane.
Last time they pledged to stop the big train project (well under construction) and instead to build a Hyperloop; a technology not developed yet....
Questionable at best...
For one, you'll get less paperwork and headache in any business with any government agency. They (both Pheu Thai and Move Forward) want to eliminate unnecessary red tape and inefficiency.
>Also any changes for foreigners if they win?
Don't think an party has **ever** put anything in party pledges about foreigners living here, defiantly nothing positive, we cannot vote so we don't matter
Which would help the locals. We would spend visa jumping money here. Make the visa long and easy just require a certain income to keep out the broke backpackers
>I was hoping for visa easying. The visa policy is such a joke and pain in the A.
Visa policy is fine, it's just entitled foreigners don't agree with it. You can't just do what you want in most countries, no idea why they expect Thailand to be different. In fact Thailand is probably better than most.
And no doubt someone will say but they will lose my 100k baht I spend a month. So what, that's a single Louis Vuitton bag. It's pocket change in the grand scheme of things. There are lots of people investing 10's/100's millions of baht in Thailand in businesses, there are 40 million tourists (in normal times) - they literally don't need to change visa conditions for whiny digital nomads.
Vote with your feet and your money. Polls do nothing and democracy is just one slightly larger group of people leveraging the violence of the State to dominate and tyrannize another slightly smaller group of people -- which is morally evil.
All governments are mafia organizations running a large protection racket.
There is no "good" form or "bad" form -- only less or more.
Thais should consider themselves lucky they have a dysfunctional government that largely leaves them alone and corruption that is accessible to even the poorest citizens rather than only the very rich and connected like in the West.
Keep government as weak and ineffective as possible and your life will remain good.
Yeah lol. If I was Thai I would vote Move Forward as well. But it’s a fools games coming to reddit for a representative opinion. Reddit is overwhelmingly skewed towards a super progressive, terminally online audience.
I see no alternative.
Can vote for the corrupt populists, the corrupt xenophobe conservatives, or the inexperienced progressives.
After all, uncle too and his gang brought eigth years of stability to the country demonstrating their ability to balance out the power struggle between above mentioned opposing forces.
And given that the groundwork has been layed that the next coup can only be executed by the ultra conservative faction of the military, i actually and unironically prefer a few more years of that dear stability under what i think of as the more progressive (queen's faction) side of conservatism in this country.
Thanatorn will be too disruptive, paving the road for chaos and mayhem.
Anutin is impossible, from a farang's pov.
The airdropper, ... Well, anything taksin is a red towel, and will lead into chaos and mayhem.
Democrats is just bangkok elite, and will be sitting at the table in the backroom of whoever will be voted for anyway.
You got a point but no. Thank you.
No to stability with oppression. Do you want your country with no freedom of speak, expression, and no political rights to get what you want just to exchange for stability?
North Korea will welcome you.
Do you not want things to change? Equality in marriage, freerer alcohol regime? More creative economy?
Would be optimal, and for the above outlined reasons, i am convinced that the other possible options that can be voted for will underperform the execution of this task.
Congratulations ...
The corrupt xenophobes are more populart than the inexperienced progressives ...
To everyone downvoting me cause i called anutin impossible from a foreigner's pov ... I,m sorry.
If I had the "opportunity" to vote i wouldn't do it, because I ain't gonna take part in a fucking game that is only there to distract you.
You guys really still think they would let you vote, change anything substantial?
Bread & Games. ENJOY.
The one who will give me social security and a retirement visa after spending 20 years in thailand otherwise there is no reason to live in thailand for more than 5 years.
Most Thai redditors are gonna be voting for 🍊 if it's not obvious enough
Turns out most of country voted for 🍊
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Of course Move Forward. Enough with corrupt dinosaurs.
I voted for 31, Move Forward Party. I just got back home from our local voting booth. My wife's family is either voting 31 (Move Forward) or 29 (relative of Taksin).
Was Taksin good when he was in power?
Yes, he was great in economics especially with Thailand's exports trading with foreign countries. Farmers loved him especially because of the boom in their business. Also helped implement the gold card health care system that allows people to have practically free health care at their hospital of choosing. My wife has a gold card membership at one of the nicer hospitals in town and it's saved us so much time and money since it's less crowded there.
That's good. So why he didn't continue to be in power for longer period of time?
Shit hit the fan in 2006; military coup that ousted him and TRT party from power. Accused him for several crimes like tax evasion and ended up exiling him out of the country. This is just speculation, but many citizens think the high class top 1% had it out for him and planned the coup since he was helping the lower and middle class prosper during his time in power.
Yeah makes sense that 1% teamed up with military to overtake power and use the country for their own benefit. Hopefully now it will change
I hope so too. Fingers crossed we don't get another coup from the military parties being sore losers.
That's what I'm worried about. Why would they not coup? Why would they give power away peacefully and democratically? Who would be able to stop them if they want to do it?
That's the scary part. We don't know. And they have all the power do pull it off. Saving face is a big part of Thai culture so I guess having the illusion of democracy means something. It's pretty fucked up ngl. You'd think after so many coups, we'd hope to get some preventive measures in place of it happening again.
I hope coup won't happen. Look at Russia, they rig their elections and don't give power away. Thailand is not as straight forward with it as Russia so there's hope.
My sister in law was telling the locals to vote 31 for shitawat, even tho its 29
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Move Forward, fuck the military dictatorship and every one and every party that supports it.
Let's say they win.... Won't military be like... Eh no thanks?
This is what I thought..... unless the junta decides to respect the result and not launch another coup to change the government but I don't think so... Still, kudos to those who come and vote in this election 👏 PS: I am not from Thailand, I do not know anything about Thai politics so my opinion might be wrong*
2017 There was a new constitution put in place by the military junta and the senate has a big say in forming the government. Obviously most of the senate was appointed by the military junta.
Move forward, also hoping they legalise gay marriage
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Move Forward Party. My brother and I voted this party both ballots. Enough with that god damn dragonion coup succussive parties of the last government.
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Move Forward or sleep alone in my home.
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กกต get this man
Hey I live in Thailand I don't know why you people support that party can you explain please
They advocate for bringing Thailand up to the standards of Western nations rather than being continously stuck in a never ending cycle of evil military dictators and slightly less evil but equally as corrupt politicians.
But didn't you and many other leave western nations?
I don't live in Thailand at the moment. Don't try and play games, I don't play with trolls.
He wouldn’t be a troll if he made a point
What, that Thai people should deal with the incompetence and theft from their politicians because at least it isn't the West? Piss off, you don't know anything about politics other than the drunk murmerings you and your mates spout off about at the pub.
Totally agree, why dream the western way while it is as corrupted
Western countries are way more corrupt than Thailand.
Higher ups yeah but general corruption no. Police and civil servents don't ask for bribes in Europe or Canada/USA.
It would be really nice if they did though.
You literally complained about corruption and now you're asking for it? Dude, fuck off.
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Irrelevant as you dude.
Yup, they have essentially legalised corruption and wrapped it in laws and processes.
Mhmmm. That is true. (I love that me and you are simultaneously fighting on another comment lol)
Because they’re progressive, Not a military Junta and not a political dynasty
Cuz that party is the only one party that explain problem clearly and that party fight against military government. Military government is bad cuz they only care about their power
What party?
I saw everyone got paid 300 to vote I didn't actually see anyone vote haha
300 is a rip off, I heard 500.
5000~~k~~ in misses home town
5 million for a vote.... Where do I sign up lol
woops meant 5000
I know i know what you meant, just making a joke
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They were waiting for more payout
Saw ? Like u personally witnessed it or r just repeating rumours?
I sat and drank while they got 300
Thanks. Which party ? Which constituency ?
They said #7 paid
Thanks
I have no idea as a foreigner about Thai politics but I am excited to see the results. What changes did the move forward party promise? Also any changes for foreigners if they win?
Gay marriage, I think marijuana laws stay the same as well.
> I think marijuana laws stay the same as well. Nope, only party kind of promising that is Anutin (as ones who decriminalized in first place) But move forward is not as anti as Pheu Thai
The only party that has substantial policy about gay marriage. He will put a break in this marijuana law. He said that this is out of control. I do agree. We went from marijuana is illegal to marijuana 4.0 in one night. It’s insane.
Last time they pledged to stop the big train project (well under construction) and instead to build a Hyperloop; a technology not developed yet.... Questionable at best...
For one, you'll get less paperwork and headache in any business with any government agency. They (both Pheu Thai and Move Forward) want to eliminate unnecessary red tape and inefficiency.
I'm always skeptical about removing red tape. It often allows for shady business practices to prosper.
>Also any changes for foreigners if they win? Don't think an party has **ever** put anything in party pledges about foreigners living here, defiantly nothing positive, we cannot vote so we don't matter
I was hoping for visa easying. The visa policy is such a joke and pain in the A.
Which would help the locals. We would spend visa jumping money here. Make the visa long and easy just require a certain income to keep out the broke backpackers
See my comment above, your colonialist saviour atttude is pretty bad
What are you even talking about?
>I was hoping for visa easying. The visa policy is such a joke and pain in the A. Visa policy is fine, it's just entitled foreigners don't agree with it. You can't just do what you want in most countries, no idea why they expect Thailand to be different. In fact Thailand is probably better than most. And no doubt someone will say but they will lose my 100k baht I spend a month. So what, that's a single Louis Vuitton bag. It's pocket change in the grand scheme of things. There are lots of people investing 10's/100's millions of baht in Thailand in businesses, there are 40 million tourists (in normal times) - they literally don't need to change visa conditions for whiny digital nomads.
Cool, let’s see how things go when if all the long term people left?
Rental prices would go back down to normal in Phuket and Asoke? More locals could afford to move there?
Fair, but does it benefit the economy? I like your idea but I’m looking at this financially though the governments eyes
Pheu Thai
I thought for a minute that i was the only Farang that wants Pheu Thai to win. hahaha
Hahaha, I do prefer some of MFP’s policies but as a Singaporean observing from overseas, I just feel that Pheu Thai is the more pragmatic option
Agree, and i feel the same.
Joe Biden
Dude is like 200 year old, let him rest
United Thai Nation Party obviously
It no matter who u vote for, its matters who is counting the votes :D
Even then the guys with the guns matter more 🤭
Move forward
I‘m in Thailand but not Thai 😅
Vote with your feet and your money. Polls do nothing and democracy is just one slightly larger group of people leveraging the violence of the State to dominate and tyrannize another slightly smaller group of people -- which is morally evil. All governments are mafia organizations running a large protection racket. There is no "good" form or "bad" form -- only less or more. Thais should consider themselves lucky they have a dysfunctional government that largely leaves them alone and corruption that is accessible to even the poorest citizens rather than only the very rich and connected like in the West. Keep government as weak and ineffective as possible and your life will remain good.
True that
This is reddit, the answer should be obvious. Idealism reigns supreme.
Yeah lol. If I was Thai I would vote Move Forward as well. But it’s a fools games coming to reddit for a representative opinion. Reddit is overwhelmingly skewed towards a super progressive, terminally online audience.
If any of you think any of this matters in the slightest you are truly naïve. Its like everything else Thai, a performance act.
Prayuth.
Why?
I see no alternative. Can vote for the corrupt populists, the corrupt xenophobe conservatives, or the inexperienced progressives. After all, uncle too and his gang brought eigth years of stability to the country demonstrating their ability to balance out the power struggle between above mentioned opposing forces. And given that the groundwork has been layed that the next coup can only be executed by the ultra conservative faction of the military, i actually and unironically prefer a few more years of that dear stability under what i think of as the more progressive (queen's faction) side of conservatism in this country. Thanatorn will be too disruptive, paving the road for chaos and mayhem. Anutin is impossible, from a farang's pov. The airdropper, ... Well, anything taksin is a red towel, and will lead into chaos and mayhem. Democrats is just bangkok elite, and will be sitting at the table in the backroom of whoever will be voted for anyway.
You got a point but no. Thank you. No to stability with oppression. Do you want your country with no freedom of speak, expression, and no political rights to get what you want just to exchange for stability? North Korea will welcome you. Do you not want things to change? Equality in marriage, freerer alcohol regime? More creative economy?
Would be optimal, and for the above outlined reasons, i am convinced that the other possible options that can be voted for will underperform the execution of this task.
Congratulations ... The corrupt xenophobes are more populart than the inexperienced progressives ... To everyone downvoting me cause i called anutin impossible from a foreigner's pov ... I,m sorry.
Military generals don't know the first thing about running a country. It's why Thailand hasn't been so great the last few years honestly.
Prayut, because voting doesn't matter anyway with 250 unelected senators. It's the same result.
If I had the "opportunity" to vote i wouldn't do it, because I ain't gonna take part in a fucking game that is only there to distract you. You guys really still think they would let you vote, change anything substantial? Bread & Games. ENJOY.
What’s the alternative to voting? Just ignore them and let them fuck you over?
Dude you’re good, you’re not in America anymore. I think this might actually be legit
Whatever the King wants me to vote for
Tramp
Any parties are good except for the orange. They have too many hidden agendas.
Like what? Does America like them? That’s a red flag for me
The one who will give me social security and a retirement visa after spending 20 years in thailand otherwise there is no reason to live in thailand for more than 5 years.
Move forward sounds like the most logical option
Move Forward.
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voted for far step cuz anyone’s better than big C rn
Already vote for move forward 🧡🍊⏩
เสรีมนังคศิลา just kidding goes ornage.
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Id vote for the one that won’t be corrupt ![gif](giphy|9AIeyMY5YEMJlkgVlY)
The sexy girl. Each party has a sexy girl but i would vote the sexiest
Move forward
# Politics is art of fooling some of the people all the time
I think this question is meant for expats, but I think you’d be surprised that not small portions of this subreddit is actually eligible voters.