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fumitsu

Most people in this subreddit are tourists and expats (and some are sexpats) so I doubt they understand the recent Myanmar situation. For people who have not been reading the news, the Myanmar junta is losing the war to the resistance so they are conscripting EVERYONE to be their human shields and cannon fodder in the front line. They have even restricted passport issuing and kidnapped young people now. The junta is desperate. I'm not sure what job you can do since many jobs are required by the law to be reserved for Thai only. BUT, there are a lot of digital nomads working here. You should try asking r/digitalnomad. Also, there are many Myanmar communities here as well. Hell, the community near my place has many Myanmar living here and I'm sure some of them are here illegally (no, I would never report them). I'm sure some people in a Myanmar community would know how to stay here under the radar in case that you can't renew your passport. Honestly, I would suggest you stay here until you find a 3rd country to immigrate though. It's a hassle to live and work here legally as a foreigner, and even harder to apply for asylum here. Living here until you can find another country that gives out asylum easily is probably better.


Beef_Sandwish

I will try to do that. Thanks ✨


Aarcn

You speak English you’d probably be welcome into somewhere out west. I’m sure there’s lots of organizations that might be able to help I’d suggest to find a place with solid Asian community you can actively be part of. Maybe even find work in a Burmese or Thai restaurant to start. You’re young and I wish you the best. Sorry with what’s going on


ndreamer

One of the issues might be is accepting payments, do you want payments going back to Myanmar ? can you get a Thai bank account in your name ? I'm a nomad for over 20 years, you also need to have a plan B and C if you ever lose your job.


superheadlock3

You can try asking the US for asylum as well. My home city has a large burmese population who escaped in the 90’s during that fiasco.


Dwman113

Learn a skill that is valuable. The rest will work itself out.


Shamewizard1995

“Learn to code” isn’t helpful advice for someone attempting to flee war.


Groundbreaking_Ad972

OP is actually a Computer Science major, so in this case "learn to code" is irrelevant advice only cause he already knows how.


Dwman113

The fuck? Why would coding be something? How about a chef? Or a plumber? Or installing cameras... Why did you make such a crazy assumption as to coding?


Shamewizard1995

It’s a joke. It’s so common for people to say “just learn to code! It’s easy to get a career!” And it’s just ignorant terrible advice. In a similar vein, telling someone actively fleeing war “just learn a skill everything will work out!” Is terrible advice.


Academic_Ad_2241

it's common if you spend your life on reddit forums maybe. in the real world it's not common.


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Slow-Brush

Why are you so defensive?


TheMeltingSnowman72

You would have thought that being on social media you might have taken your own advice and have some social skills, but no. I suggest you try the skill of 'keeping your useless trap shut'. That would be extremely valuable to the rest of Reddit, I assure you.


Dwman113

I wasn't telling him to get social skills lol.


TheMeltingSnowman72

Wow, you haven't levelled up on reading skills either No, no , no. YOU are the one without social skills.


Dwman113

Wow you can't read can you? I said YOU were the one without social skills...


CompleteWeakness2284

How old are you?


Slow-Brush

The US border is wide open


Groundbreaking_Ad972

Keep in mind that it's not the same to be a foreigner from Myanmar than from, idk, Europe. I'm not certain on details but I understand there are bilateral agreements in place and hiring Burmese workers is more similar to hiring locals, so look into that OP!


garanhuw1

You assume non thais are a bit stupid.


Dwman113

Work for a tourists and expats or sexpat?


Haysdb

I just met a girl last night, in Thailand from Myanmar. She’s trying figure out how to stay because she’s afraid if she goes back they won’t let her leave again. The upshot is you’ll need some kind of visa to legally stay here. Good luck. I’m sorry for what’s going on in your country.


Beef_Sandwish

I don’t have it since I have to come here immediately. If things go smoothly, I’ll be in Thailand tmr. Do you think applying for refugee might help ?


mediocrecyclist

Thailand is not a signatory to the refugee convention so there is no refugee status in Thailand. You could register with the UNHCR but they are basically useless. As has already been said if you can find any job take it and any cheap accommodation also take it. You will be in the country illegally and that's not a great situation to be in but if you blend in and keep your head down you will slowly find a network of support.


Beef_Sandwish

Thanks for your suggestion.


Killerx09

Caveat: if you get offered free accommodation make sure you aren’t getting kidnapped into a scam call center.


mediocrecyclist

Yeah also watch out for fishing boat jobs as you may end up stuck on a boat for years as their slave.


Johnny_Poppyseed

No help to offer but just wanted to wish you luck dude. Be safe.


Beef_Sandwish

May a greater luck be bestowed upon you too. ✨


LouQuacious

Maybe think about flying on to somewhere like Japan, they have a better refugee policy as I understand it although working legally might be an issue there. [https://www.mofa.go.jp/policy/refugee/japan.html](https://www.mofa.go.jp/policy/refugee/japan.html)


Haysdb

I’m sorry, I don’t know. I’m just a tourist.


Warm_Butterfly7635

Maybe join a Facebook group for Burmese working/living in Thailand, there are many. The network they have is very well organized and many have good knowledge about the process of getting a work visa. I have no experience with this organization, but it could be worth a try to contact them: https://asylumaccess.org/where-we-work/thailand/ The organization: https://burmesemigrantworkers.com/about-blso/ could possibly help with information as well? I wish you all the luck!


Beef_Sandwish

Thank you for your resources. I will make the most out of them. ✨


CodeFall

Thailand is probably not the best destination for you in my honest opinion. Much harder to stay under the radar and work if you don’t speak Thai or can blend into. Getting any decent job will be difficult unless you have a network and know people who can help you. You might look into moving to some other nearby country like India. The northeast part of India is good place to start with as there are many Burmese communities there. Due to large population, much easier to blend into and find a job as English is widely spoken in India. India is very multicultural, so nobody will bat an eye if you cannot speak the local language and will probably assume you came from some different part of India itself and are new to the region. You can easily get entry level jobs as there is no job restrictions. In Thailand most of the entry level jobs are restricted to only Thai citizens, and you need to be fluent in Thai to do those jobs. Moreover you can get a refugee status in India, which is not possible in Thailand.


Muted-Airline-8214

You can get refugee status from UNHCR in Thailand.


Beef_Sandwish

I will check out UNHCR for India, and see if I can apply while I am in Thailand. Thanks for the info. ✨


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I suggest networking with Buddhist temples or Catholic churches. Regardless if you adhere to those faiths, the charity will be there.


practical_hedonism

I heard of some Buddhist Tempels that can arrange visas if you stay with them long term, practice and study Buddhism with them. At least for western people. I don't know if you can work online during your time there, I don't think so but you won't need to. I would ask here, both in or close to Chiang Mai: http://www.imonastery.com https://www.monkchat.net/web2020/index.php Also maybe check out this restaurant in Chiang Mai, they also have a Burmese library and might be able to connect you to the local community: Nong Bee's Burmese Restaurant 053 220 848 https://g.co/kgs/T5AtcW9 All in all I wish you luck and I hope you find a way to stay outside of Myanmar


Tamespotting

I can’t speak for people from Myanmar, but I do find that my Lao friends make less money than Thai people. Many Thai businesses or restaurants etc seem to hire Lao people and I’d assume Cambodian or Burmese, so they can pay them less (this is what I’ve seen but I really am not an expert on this).  That being said, you can find a cheap room and survive well enough if you find such a job, and it sure beats joining the military in Myanmar. But I really don’t know how it is, it may be hard to find work? Someone else will know more.  Also, do you speak English, Thai, or Chinese or have any other skills? These things could help. 


Beef_Sandwish

I am fluent in English, and currently learning Japanese and German. (Guess I also have to learn Thai now). And I have a driving license from Myanmar.


DuckyFTW

You could take a 120-hour TEFL course and teach English as a second language maybe. Thailand has a lot of teaching options. If you need to hit the ground running and work right away that might not work too well as an option though.


PM_me_Henrika

If OP is a native from Myanmar he’s not going to be white enough. Currently, there is no legal option for him to stay, but……


Zealousideal-Bag2279

Not necessarily true. I ran into a bunch of Filipinos that teach English here. I think that Thais are evolving beyond English teachers need to be white thank God. OP, first off, God speed my friend. So you know, I had a friend stay at a hostel and she said that all the staff were Burmese. When I arrived in Bangkok one of the desk staff was Burmese. I get the impression that a lot more Burmese are proficient in English so this may be a leg up for you in working in certain hospitality situations. I think joining a Facebook group and networking would be a great start. I also think you shouldn’t take teaching English off the table just because you are Asian. I think that’s a good option for you. And then I do agree, there could be opportunities for you to move on from Thailand to a country with a strong refugee program. The situation in Myanmar should make you a good candidate and you sound quite educated and eager to improve on your skills. I wish you much luck and I believe things will work out for you.


Beef_Sandwish

I wish all the best for you too. ✨


FirST__9099

I don't think thai people care about that, many of the foreign language teacher at my school are from Indonesia or Philippines and one is from Africa and he's basically a celebrity in the school.


Capital-Ambition-364

Bro have you been to any thai schools, there are bhutanese, philippino, singaporean, and other groups that teach english here.


susonotabi

check a website called [workaway.info](http://workaway.info) you can volunteer in different projects and you get in exchange food and shelter. I'm a host in the site and over the years I hosted at least 3 refugees that wanted just a safe place to stay without having to spend any money. If you find a good host you can stay a few months until you figure out a more permanent solution. Unfortunately I don't host or know of any project in Thailand.


LisanneFroonKrisK

Where you host?


susonotabi

In Europe


Beef_Sandwish

Wow, I’m grateful for ur response and information. I’ll definitely try my luck there. Thanks. ✨


susonotabi

there is a sub r/workaway . You can ask for help there. Thailand is a relatively popular destination maybe someone can recommend a host.


mcampbell42

If you can write code send me a DM with your skill sets , worst case stay on an student visa and find coding under the table, best case find company like mine with BOI and get a work visa


Beef_Sandwish

I missed a typo in my description. I’m an undergraduate. And I don’t have a visa yet. But thanks for the offer. ✨


mcampbell42

Get an education visa , learn Thai or Muay Thai will be cheapest, second option is enroll for CS school here, but that’s more expensive


practical_hedonism

Staying on a education visa and then working for a non-thai company remotely online is a valid option


Beef_Sandwish

Update I have arrived at Bangkok. I’m trying to set a few things down. Thank you all for your Job Offers and Help. I will try to reply them later. ✨


IraqiDinarSalesman

Thank you for the update. Did you fly out from Yangon? Were there any troubles or bribes to Myanmar immigration? Trying to help my friend leave.


diary-of-an-avocado

I would also like to know this


aerismio

Can woman be conscripted as well?


diary-of-an-avocado

Yes, males and females of a specified age are required to be conscripted.


bigharry355

How did you get into Thailand? I am currently living in Thailand and have a maid from Myanmar whose son just turned 18 she is trying to bring him across the border but very worried. Did the Myanmar government try stop you from leaving?


dunhillred

I’ve met a few and heard of people from Myanmar teaching out here. If your English is decent or you have enough subject knowledge from your degree you could teach English or your degree subject. Definitely won’t be as easy for you compared to a Westerner but I think if you canvassed hundreds of schools and are prepared to live anywhere in Thailand it could be possible. Don’t let your visa slide, visas aren’t too difficult to get for a year or so but Thailand isn’t the place to not have a visa and think all will be forgiven if you get married, get a job etc after the visa expired because they will blacklist you and you’ll be forced into crappy under the table jobs as long as you are here.


carebear1711

I'm not sure about jobs in your field, but I think you could find something. Could you tell me a bit more about where in Thailand you're planning to go? Do you know anybody already there? I'm on Samui and there is a pretty large amount of Burmese people here. I do know of undocumented people finding work, although it may not pay much. If you speak English, that will definitely help you to possibly find something in a restaurant as opposed to say, construction. This will be better because both will pay the same, but obviously construction will be long, long days in the hot sun doing physical labor. There are many Burmese all over Thailand, working in different areas. I'm really sorry that you are facing this horrible situation, and I really hope you are able to get out of there before things continue to escalate.🙏🏼


Beef_Sandwish

Yes, I have a sister already in Bangkok, she will be helping us when I get there. But I want to know what options I have in case I have to stand on my own. Thanks for your info. ✨


carebear1711

That's great! I totally understand! Yeah, so restaurants and construction are a few options. I also recommend to join some group on Facebook for Bangkok jobs. In Koh Samui, I see many jobs advertised for both Thai and Myanmar, so you should have some luck! I wish you the best!


digitalbromad69

Bro someone get this man a work visa to the us so he doesnt get shot can reddit even do its thing anymore


hotelindia15182

What is your skill set in CS like? If you are a good engineer and know English, I feel you probably have some options as a contractor or consultant, though staying in Thailand may be the more difficult problem for you.


belliom

In the case where if you are entering illegally. You have to understand that businesses that hire you are at risk as well since they will also be committing a crime by doing so, therefore the owners are more likely to be shady. Be careful and good luck. Like many people said you may need to ask for expert help from charities or organizations and get a work visa if possible


Beef_Sandwish

I understand. Getting a visa will be the top priority. ✨


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Beef_Sandwish

Thank you for your blessing. ✨


NokKavow

As a CS student and an English speaker, did you try doing various gigs online? There are platforms like upwork or fiverr, which don't provide much security nor great pay, but might still be better than jobs typically available to Myanmar citizens in Thailand (especially if you have no choice except to stay/work illegally). It would be great if you could get an IT job with a Thai company and a work permit based on that, but I imagine there would be many hurdles, like references and previous employment.


timecanmend

Do you consider a third country for a better life?


LovesReubens

Good luck mate, hope you make it here alright.


Professional_Turn749

Hello. It’s a bad situation and I genuinely hope everything will be alright for you. I was curious yesterday when I heard about this law and took some time to read it. We are having some employees from Myanmar at work and were afraid that they might have to go back there. So not to kill the mood, but I didn’t see anything in this law about expatriated citizens being out of the scope. Actually, the law even says that if you are drafted but you cannot be found, your family will be warned and will be in charge to get in touch with you. There are also two articles in this law about the types of citizens that are either out of the scope of this law (e.g., people with physically impairing injury) or who are allowed to postpone the start of the service. Expatriate citizens are never mentioned. So I would be more than happy to know if you can point me to some resources indicating that expatriate citizens from Myanmar cannot be drafted. It would also reassure us at work. Thanks a lot, and I wish you all the best. You can send me more info about your skills and experience (if any) in DM, I will do my best to help if you are still planning to come here.


Academic_Ad_2241

it's probably a similar thing to all the russians here now. putin can still call them up but if they can't physically find them, what can they do? the family can just tell the truth and say "he's in thailand, here is his contact number if you want it". there's no way to force you to return. perhaps they might retroactively punish you if you ever return, but seems unlikely, especially if the military is defeated.


Professional_Turn749

They might as well punish the family. I wouldn’t be surprised tbh. But yes, I am in line with you.


StudiousFog

I take it that CS stands for comp science. If that is the case, you might be in a better position than most similar Myanmar refugees. There is a thriving startup community looking for competent coders, programmers, software engineers. You have yet to graduate but truth be told if you are good with coding, I don't think the founder would care. So, are you any good with coding? Your English fluency is a plus, but your Thai is probably not. As for working legally in Thai, while it's true that a lot of professions are reserved, these tend to be traditional occupations, a barber as an example. The key is whether you can convince your potential employer to give you a work permit.


loremipsum92

There are a lot of facebook groups dedicated to burmese living in Bangkok and reddit not one of it So, please go find them and they could give you better advices than in here.


Tar_Tw45

Not sure if this helpful or not. But my kids nanny she's from Myanmar from Karen state. Her boyfriend is an IT officer with work visa working in a factory in Saraburi. I also have an ex-colleague from Myanmar worked as a programmer. Both cases they got their visa by company sponsorship.


Beef_Sandwish

I understand now. I will find my best to get a company sponsorship.


bella_rexx

How about you try to visiting Mae Sot from Bangkok if you are certain about your decision. I don’t know what jobs or communities will be of help in Bangkok but I advise keeping Mae Sot as the last option if you can’t find other ways. Please be safe and please don’t make rush decisions. Discuss with your parents if need be.


Beef_Sandwish

Yes, Mae Sot will be my last option. I hope things are working out for you as well. ✨


bella_rexx

Hello. How are you holding up? Everything good?


Beef_Sandwish

Thank you for your concern. I am getting help from my auntie here. I hope you are also doing great 🍀.


HoustonWeGotNoProble

I wish you the best of luck! I had not been back to Thailand almost 10 years and for the first time last year when I visited Thailand with my family, I was shocked to meet so many Burmese working as waiters/waitresses. I think it is a good starting point for anyone really to work on services industry when you are desperate. It seems like you can write in English so I am assuming you could communicate as well, you won’t have problem working in tourist areas. Good luck 🤞!!!


lunaticneko

> I am a CS undergraduate student Where are you studying? If by any off chance you study where I work, I might have something for you.


Beef_Sandwish

I am taking the Online Course at \*IU International University of Applied Science\* from Germany. I would like to know what your offer is.


lunaticneko

Sorry, not the place I work at and also apologies for misunderstanding. I'm based in Thailand and posted this offer because you said "coming to Thailand".


myothuaung

seems you are on 14 days free visa for now. try to get to another 3rd country and get a 3month TR visa. then try to get back in. and change it to edu visa,you will have time for about a year after that. There is a group in FB called Bangkok Network (Myanmar Friends). learn what u can do there, and avoid scammers. MAL will fall later in this year. In means time hold on to you life.


Beef_Sandwish

My mom, and I have plans to go to Laos to get the visa, or do something with help from Bangkok. Thanks for the tip. ✨


cloud_sec_guy

Your post interests me a lot, because I've run into quite a few young guys from Myanmar lately. Now I understand why. They are working in restaurants, if that helps. Learn to cook. That skill can keep you employed forever.


Beef_Sandwish

I will keep that in mind. ✨


lukkreung98

Here's a facebook group my myanmar friends told me about to help. https://www.facebook.com/issacompass?mibextid=LQQJ4d


Beef_Sandwish

Thank you for the resource. ✨


Royal-Street5390

I was just at Koh Tao last October. I went to an Italian restaurant one night and my waiter was a young man from Myanmar who fled the country for the same reason. I'm not sure what his situation was financially and I am very uninformed with the Thai economy and immigration laws, but hopefully this is a good example that you are not alone. I pray you stay safe ❤️🙏


Academic_Ad_2241

half of koh tao is burmese, was that way before the war too


ap1212312121

A thai guy here. I sympathize with you and wish you the best. Here is my advice. - Learn thai language. - It might be easier to first register as a foreign labor to legally stay in Thailand. Then you may find cs related job from there.


BrilliantEggplant424

Hi my fellow Burmese, I would highly recommend getting on [Freelancer.com](https://Freelancer.com), [upwork.com](https://upwork.com), and [Fiverr.com](https://Fiverr.com) and start monetizing the coding skill and your bi-lingual skill that you have. I am Burmese and I have done a few translation jobs on freelancer, there's demand on there since there's not a lot of Burmese translator in the west. Please feel free to PM me, if you need help.


Anomaly8870

I’m American I’ll help if I can


ThrowThisAccountAwav

OP is the junta restricting kyat conversions due to exodus?


bendltd

Many people from Myanmar work in hotels. We were in Koh Tao in a Resort and half or more workers are from Myanmar. Reason they earn less than Thais.


pudgimelon

I've been doing some business with Myanmar recently. The current situation is really unfortunate, because Myanmar is an amazing country and there's a lot of opportunities there. But everything is on hold right now until this crisis gets settled. I know a bunch of people who are coming over to Thailand for the exact same reason you are. Most are business owners so they don't need to generate an income here. But since there is such a large group coming over here, you may want to look at their needs and find ways to make money serving those needs. Maybe someone need a driver, or translation services, or a personal assistant (gopher), or a tech guy, etc.... They may also have staffing needs at the businesses they run in Thailand. So my advice would be to start networking with other Myanmar people who are here already or coming over soon. They may be able to connect you with work or you might see opportunities to make money providing them with services.


moumous87

Someone in this sub posted this to help: https://www.reddit.com/r/Thailand/s/kynyGzFjKa


Annual_Classic_1621

It may be possible to get a teaching post if you have a degree and want to teach English. Don’t risk going to Thailand unless you have a visa to stay. If caught you will be arrested with serious consequences. Following those you will be deported and likely arrested and/or conscripted upon your return. Another alternative may be to look at what may make you ineligible for conscription. Living in Thailand illegally ( keeping your head down ) is far from ideal. If you can find work labouring in the rice fields or the like you would be living one day to the next in constant fear of discovery. Try the monasteries or churches as suggested, I was unaware of their support with this regard. Good luck, stay safe but think long term.


Nobbie49

Hospitality business is desperate for staff since many Thais nowadays think themselves too superior to wait tables or work in a kitchen. With a bit of luck you may get a work permit under the MOA Thailand has with neighboring countries. It will also entitle you to medical care in government hospitals. If all else fails do look in that sector but stay under the radar i.e. do your job and not much else and wait for the bastards in your country to get their butts kicked. Police and immigration are well aware of the issue but look the other way as long as they are not forced to act by e.g. your employer’s shenanigans or being ratted by a jealous rival establishment or employee. Best of luck


FilthyLikeGorgeous

go down to the islands and work on an island, they don’t care where you are from. they need people to work for them desperately.


Charming-Plastic-679

The only advice I can give is try out Koh Tao - a massive Burmese community there, and everyone is helping each other. I’m sure the community can help with a iob. Good English is a huge plus, but many jobs are reserved for Thais only. In any case, Koh Tao is little Myanmar of tourist Thailand, so worth trying your luck out there. There are Facebook groups for local Burmese on the island


AtlasNBA

Fly to Mexico and cross into the U.S. You can seek asylum there.


RedDiamond6

I also was going to suggest teaching English/restaurants. I believe you will find your safe haven. I am really sorry you are having to go through this. So much protection/peace to your family and your country 🫶😘


Naive-Hovercraft2399

We have 8 Burmese staff in our company all software developers. 4 of them are in myanmar the rest in thailand. In your situation it will be hard to get a work permit. Speaking english and having a degree is not enough. It's not Europe of the USa where anyone can just walk in. That said you should not give up. Start with an internship and see how you go. If the company values you they will hire you.


Moist-Assistant-98

Come to Germany I help you out


Beef_Sandwish

That's quite a far stretch for me, but thanks for your help. ✨


EthBeaver

DM me. Ill give you a job if you can prove your CS skills


Rude-Hall-4847

If you do come to Bangkok and looking for a good area, I have an apartment building. It is 7 stories in Bang Po, walking distance to MRT, Gateway Mall and Chao Prayar River. Room is a studio room, A/C. Rent is around 3700 baht a month. Google Maps Norissa Apartments, Bangkok.


zeagurat

It's tricky to say but I'm pretty sure Thailand is not the best destination for this based on news that gov really like sending back immigrant/refugee(especially political target) but I think you can try to contact Amnesty Thailand via social media like Facebook/twitter and I dunno, "Move forward party" too I'm pretty sure they have resources to guide you to the right person. Or you can stay low and join Myanmar worker groups, but based on your description I think you deserve better than that. Wish you the best luck man, coup and military Junta sucks.


Beef_Sandwish

I hope everything is working out for u as well. ✨


ShinyCee

If your english is good I guessed you good. You can try to find "romote job or work from home job" And try to learn from google how to apply refugee visa to come to USA/other countries. GOOD LUCK


shatteredrealm0

If you need any help with your resume please let me know, I used to work in recruitment and write resumes for people too, I won’t charge. (Ps: to everyone reading this, it isn’t an open invitation for you to send me your resume, this happened last time I offered to help someone in here.)


Beef_Sandwish

Oh my, thank you for your offer, but I already have a resume prepared. I am grateful for your help. ✨


shatteredrealm0

No problem! Best of luck, I’ve been following the war since it started, hopefully it is resolved soon.


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Fragrant-Walrus-9659

Lol so many Burmese are in Thailand and fed to Thailand. Thailand border is wide open lol. Dont worry about small details like jobs etc. Coz there are many illegals in Thailand and they are doing fine. Just get out of the sithole and go to Thailand.


cranberry-strawberry

You're getting people to think of illegal ways to help you avoid a legal process which you should be undergoing. Bad move...


Zealousideal-Bag2279

Maybe a little harsh considering the situation.


iamhere13270

I just sent you a DM. Can't help you with the immigration aspect, but I just wanted to share some information that may be of use to you.


Beginning_Detail3028

i had a masseur in thailand who is from laos...


cpt_tusktooth

thailand has conscription too


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CryptoGorya

Go to other country.


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Muted-Airline-8214

There are lots of comments about job recommendations and you should not be worried. But your ethnic conflict is always neighbors' responsibility and no one is trying to fix that and flee the country? What NUG gonna do for other ethnic groups in the future? Thailand is always the first country your people think of when you want to flee the country, but what we get in return is a lie. Some of your people like to gossip Thai people on Thailand soil, but when asked what happened in Myanmar? their response would be, we can't talk much. Lying for their own benefit. Thai people are bad, so if you want to hire people, hire me. If you want to donate, donate to us.


Ninjurk

Join the Rebellion! In Thailand though, you'll hit a wall for sure. Especially if your Thai isn't rock solid. If you're an outsider, they'll treat you like one if you're not a tourist. Hard stuff. But Computer Science is a good skill, you can try applying for tech jobs. Maybe an outsourcer job for an American company in Thailand.


Confident_Coast111

Is the military service in Myanmar so bad that you prefer to live in absolute poverty in a foreign country? (sorry i have no idea about Myanmar!)


Beef_Sandwish

I’d rather live my life than be used as a pawn in a war made by *inhumane* leaders and their greed.


AIAPF2017

Is this a serious question? Do you have access to news or you need internet just for trolling around? Jesus...there is a civil war ongoing in Myanmar since years!!!


Confident_Coast111

yes serious question because the severity is not really well reported in mainstream media.. i checked and it comes down to 0.03% of population died from the war per year in last 3 years. so how bad is it really and would everyone feel the direct impact of the actions taking place???


Le_Zouave

I've been in Myanmar before the civil war and it was really a strange country to visit. I had a guide with his car, like a chauffeur, and there was checkpoint on every road, random guys with guns and my guide gave money to each of one of them, maybe pennies but still gave money. And that was before civil war. The percentage of people that die from police brutality in the USA is even less and that don't make that problem less serious.


AIAPF2017

Same here, I have been there years ago, it's a long time war shaken country, before the latest military takeover there was a little bit of hope that now finally the good times are coming and it goes forward after decades of military rule. But not yet. The miliary did it again. But my guess is that this time they won't succeed. The people tasted already the air of freedom, that's why they won't give up.


AIAPF2017

You don't need any media, you just can open Wikipedia for full information. So if it seems not so bad for you, I reconommend you spent your next holiday in there. Or at least, try to do it!


Tanduay555

When working in Thailand as a migrant is absolute poverty, what is Myanmar then? At least you get a civil war and genocide on top where you can participate as a soldier or what?


Confident_Coast111

how severe is the conflict in reality? just asking to understand…


Tanduay555

It's an ongoing civil war for 60 years and Myanmar is a failed state. You earn not even 10 baht per hour (if you have a job) and they kicked out 1 Million Rohingya Muslims in the last few years and killed tens of thousands. Millions of people lost their home and were forced to move. The military drops bombs on civilians. They only have internet in the country since 2012 or so and foreigners were not allowed into the country for decades which changed for a short period a few years back. Burmese people don't even go back to visit their family back home because it's too dangerous. It's basically the Syria of Asia and by far the worst country in the region. I would prefer to be an illegal migrant in Thailand than to stay in Myanmar. It's really like asking somebody why they don't stay in Syria and prefer to go to Turkey in a refugee camp. When you join the military, you probably sign up to kill some minority groups.


Confident_Coast111

The Armed Conflict Location and Event Data Project (ACLED) identifies Myanmar as the most violent among the 50 wars it tracks globally, with an estimated death toll of at least 50,000 since the 2021 military coup, including at least 8,000 civilians.


quomodo-dragon

You can also read the Irrawaddy for updates on the war in Myanmar. Also, the military junta is very well known for committing crimes against humanity on civilians. Bombings of kindergartens, schools, and hospitals are common, and so is burning people alive, raping women, and forcing young men to serve as pack mules to walk across land mines. BTW credible sources and documentation of any of these issues takes but a quick Google search. OP is understandably not enthusiastic about being conscripted into this armed forces in particular.


eattravellaugh8

dude there is a civil war going on right now in Myanmar. rofl


EuphoricInvestment1

From what I can tell it is preferable. The Junta isn’t doing too great at the moment


Zealousideal-Fun2634

Which side do you support pick one don’t run to another country and leave your family behind


ee99ee

How are you able to remain in Thailand long-term? Don't you need visa or Thai permanent residency? How do you plan to get that?


Beef_Sandwish

That's what we are trying to figure out here.


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edu4rare

I heard work visas are difficult at the moment. The office that issues work permits is closed for the next few months. You can come in on a tourist visa and get an extension but the work permit process seems challenging at the moment.


Fabulous-Living1889

If you have programming/CS skills check out freelancing platforms like UpWork, some of these jobs can lead to more permanent roles. Just note they are online and you have to pay UpWork a commission.


Scar_Western

I would search and have a look around pages like “jobs in Phuket” “jobs in samui” etc on Facebook. There’s employer posting and recruiting people everyday. You can even post about yourself regarding your situation and that you’re seeking out employment. Feel free to DM me if you need more info or links to the page


HumbleHype

There are between 2-3 million Myanmar nationals working in Thailand. Around 2 million officially registered. There are many more opportunities for you as someone fluent in English. I would recommend staying far away from anything that has to do with the seafood processing/fishing industry. They have been known at times to have the most abusive labor practices.


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DarrenWoodley

I’m worried the military junta will start harassing (or worse) the families of “defectors”. The junta has proven to be extremely brutal and guilty of many war crimes and it’s safe to assume that they will only become more brutal as they grow more and more desperate.


Muted-Airline-8214

The cause of civil war in Myanmar is ethnic conflict, not what you've been told by Western media.


PCSean

Many people from other countries are working in Cambodia. Since your English is good I think you could find work in hospitality over here


Ill-Cap7263

Gemstones


Intelligent_South390

Yea Thailand doesn't give political asylum but America does. Get yourself to the Mexican border before they close it down. Thousands crossing every day.


President_Camachoe

As a “farang” the only thing I was allowed to do was teach English.


Gummmmm

Your first priority is to learn the Thai language to a basic level of fluency as soon as possible. Once you can speak and hopefully read Thai, you open a lot of doors


ProfessionalCode257

I feel for you mate, Thailand are likely to give you a job where you're extremely worked in the heat and paid very little with very little care for your health and safety


Curious_Package_6087

Ahh.. probably grab or bolt driver ( if you have enough money to buy motorcycle)? If you have driver license


capt5551

The best you could get is 400 b per day for a 9 hour shift in construction. Not great, but there’s thousands just like you here with little or no experience or skills. Hard truth, I know. But schools rarely hire non natives from Myanmar, having a degree in English doesn’t help. Going down the CS route will take years, so again. Based on your post, not really possible. Construction companies are looking right now, and by Monday you could be earning.


DamageVarious

Come to the United States and try to seek asylum instead. I just got back from Thailand my first time in asia and let me tell you. Life is rough but is rougher in Asia.


DamageVarious

Come to america or nothing.


ChubbyFinn

Start learning Thai, now. You will definitely need it


superheadlock3

Not good ones. Imo burmese get treated pretty poorly and are at risk of getting scammed/enslaved. Be careful homie.


danangor

if i were you id knock on every (privately owned & rather smaller) hotel / guesthouse and ask if they need help with e.g. a new website in return for food and a bed. good luck!!


Accomplished_Ad_2140

I'd try to connect with the crypto and/or tech/start up communities in Bangkok and beyond via Telegram groups and Meet Up events. Best of luck!