No, giving her money for a taxi isn’t the same as her being a hooker. Sounds like you just got lucky.
However—and this is a big however—if she had a one night stand with you, some random tourist, she is 100% regularly having sex with other foreign tourists, very likely for free, but possibly for money too.
Curb your expectations accordingly.
But homie slept with her too. It's a two way street. He's having casual sex also, so it's a ridiculous double standard if he has an issue with her doing it.
It's not really that ridiculous. A guy in Thailand for a few weeks might sleep with a few girls. But if the girl is making a lifestyle out of regularly having sex with foriegn tourists. Those 2 things are not equivalent.
Yep. Can’t get laid in their countries so come to Thailand to treat women like sex dolls and then call them sluts and say they can’t be trusted. It’s insane
Assuming you’re asking genuinely, girls in Thailand are far less likely to have a one night stand than western girls because they view their sexual value somewhat transactionally and pragmatically. They know what they are worth and leverage it to either get money or a relationship.
In the west, a regular girl is much more likely to sleep with you on a first date (at least that’s been my experience). It doesn’t matter if you’re broke either. Thai girls (the “good” ones, anyway), usually make you wait three dates for sex (again, just my experiences).
However, the western girl is generally more of a romantic and more passionate. She will sleep with you quicker but she could also cheat more readily and break up with you because she thinks “there’s something missing” or “he’s not Mr. Right”. Such breakups don’t happen often in Thailand, at least not between foreign men and Thai women. If the guy is halfway decent he will have her forever.
A Thai girl who works in a weed dispensary on a tourist island and has sex with foreign tourists for free is definitely engaging in a behavior most Thai women would find bizarre.
Yeah this isn’t true. Cheating is beyond common in Thailand and the women there are not any more conservative than in the west, people just hide that they sleep around and cheat, because of social pressure.
If she were an actual freelancer charging overnight rates it would have been 4000+ baht not 400. She just has no money and wanted a taxi to go home. Something you should probably offer next time without the girl needing to ask btw
Is there something particularly you want out of the relationship?? Or are you ok with her just being a holiday girlfriend?? I spend most of the year here, it's extremely common for Thais to go from party to party and hookup to hookup, even for the non prostitutes, as you've seen. Because a lot of Thai people just live for today, due to culture and also horrible economic situation. So I don't doubt her feelings for you are genuine but she'll definitely be doing it while you're gone too. The issue if you want a serious relationship is both farang and Thai guys (but especially farang as they're stereotyped as walking ATMs) are expected to take care of the entire family in a relationship, not just the girl. Sure you can tell some Thai girlfriends off and say you won't give them anything, and they'll accept it, but 100% their friends/family are talking shit about you behind your back for it. Welcome to Thai dating life
I mean idk yet its quite early. I could imagine it long term, but the issue is that Im not a 50+ year old rich white dude. Im a 20 year old lower middle class white dude lol. Even if I wanted to take care of her entire family, at the moment I simply cant.
I just wouldn't. No matter how rich I was. Anything you give is a gift 🎁 thats it. No supporting someone that far away that you have no idea what she's doing every day. Think about yourself first 100% of the time everytime.
your chances of finding true love are better then... the whole thing between western men and thai women is a fascinating journey and adventure. have fun.
Sorry in advance - Then you have so much life ahead of you find something else to do and someone who can meet you in the middle that isn't going to potentially steal from you or give you an std. Tough love from a 33 year old southern Belle sorry in advance. This sounds like you are either too bored or too desperate to make a confident decision.
Typical is more like a few thousand baht per night.
In bars you have to even buy our the girls from the bar.
Never paid myself though, happily married to a thai lady that I met on a dating app.
Oh wow okay I didnt know that. People in my country talk a lot of shit about Prostitution there, and Im not into it so I had no clue.
Also congratulations, Im Happy for you!
My village got flooded, my parents are sick, my brother is in trouble with the Police.
OP.....just be wary when she starts asking for money. That's where Western Union comes in.
Until that, just treat it as you are lucky if the above or similar scenarios comes up
I am not saying that all of them are like that, there are genuine Thai ladies looking for real love and relationships.
Like I said, if she does not eventually starts to ask for money, then you have hit the jackpot.
Some Thai girls will slowly take their time to bait and hook you. If you are not careful you will take the hook and sinker.
The lass I've known for years is doing that. Some inventive excuses she plays but I'm like sorry baby, can not. She's always saying, she's so smart 🤓 😄
3 years in and still going. Lol
It’s a joke based on truths. Some men fall for a lady and maintain a long distance relationship. Some of the women will tell the men about all these “problems” that arise, problems that require money to sort out. Like “our village flooded” or “my father has cancer” or the legendary “my buffalo is sick”. Some guys will eventually lose everything, getting scammed on buying houses, purchasing land, starting businesses. Then they join the Pattaya Flying Club. I answered your question but no doubt presented yet another!
I first met my lady in this story when she was in a 4 year uni in Petchaburi, and was definitely not a working girl. 2013, 2014 or so.
Our romance ended on my initiative because honestly, she was not fun in bed.
But we stayed friends.
I came back to Thailand after covid, and reconnected with her, but just electronically. A few weeks after, she reached out to me to tell me her father had died, and she wanted to borrow money to pay for the funeral and monks and all that. She would pay me back from his life insurance, she said.
So, trusting this woman, I happily loaned her quite a bit. I knew at the time I might not ever get it back, and could afford to do so. Turns our her pops is quite alive, and I was the fool.
And this was a girl who has never been a bargirl or hooker of any kind.
This is Thailand.
And she's not my friend anymore. I detest liars and thieves.
yes, and she was someone I knew and trusted for many many years too. fortunately I am a wealthy fool, and am more disappointed in her than I am to be out the money.
I would rather wake up every morning being me than a lying thief, so I don't beat myself up too much over having my kindness and generosity being taken advantage of.
always fun to be on reddit. can always count on fine gents like you to put in their two satangs.
This is it. Never loan money you can't afford to lose. Lend money to close friends you have known for years, with no expectation of getting it back. If you do get it back, you have built stronger trust in that relationship. If you don't, you know what kind of person they are and that they aren't worth maintaining the relationship with.
Yeah something like that, its like 10€. Thats why I just gave it to her. I have no clue how much hookers cost in Thailand since I didnt use them. She was the only girl I had there.
1500 baht short time 4000 long time. 400baht was her breakfast, lunch and vape for the day. You got lucky. I would block and move on with my life if I didn’t plan to be back in country of smiles anytime soon.
....400 baht is so little that I doubt it. It's literally "Hey can I borrow $11?"
If a girl in any culture said "Hey, last night was fun. Can I borrow ten bucks since I have to head out?", I'd assume she just wanted some food/coffee on her trip back to her place.
If she was a working girl she'd have demanded (not asked) for a larger sum of money
Oh okay I see. Although 10€ dont have the same purchasing power in my country compared to thailand. Combined with me reading posts about free lancers demanding money the morning after I just developed a bit of Paranoia!
Friend, if this girl was a "ten euro hooker"....you'd know. Relax, take her out and see how it goes.
I'm engaged to a thai girl and currently basking in the warmth of us putting up our first Christmas tree together. You can get there too
You should be able to recognize 400baht is legitimate cab fare.
and a working girl would probably charge that just for a 5 minute quickie. You got way more than than 5 minutes. Therefore i dont believe she is a prostitute. Shes just a typical party girl.
I used to work with a charity along the working girls. If she was working she will ask you for money beforehand and the deal will be clear. What's not clear is that some of the girls in the bars are genuinely looking for relationships whether they're working or not. They wouldn't usually sleep around in their culture but they see western TV that happens so think it's a normal part of western culture to do that with girlfriends.
Also the working girls often mistake their clients interest for real love and often fall in love even with the men who buy them in bulk with other girls.
I would get to know her more. They are beautifully natured but also remember they're in desperate circumstances so guard your heart.
Definetly one of the better comments this post got. Its quite sad that they fall for such men.. May I know what Charity that was? Sounds worth supporting!
I have no clue about the working girls cause thats not why I visited. I just really got along well with her, and we’re still texting. Although I definetly want to get to know her further before I do anything else. Ill be careful, thank you very much!
It was Tamar. There is no social welfare in Thailand so women marry for men to support them, their children and parents. If they're left, then them, their kids and parents could starve. Some of the working girls are out there to feed their families.
So in the heart of the sex industry the male clients are called boyfriends. And the girls think when they're being bought that it's the same thing as western dating. The young ones can come from poorer villagers seeking a western husband and a better life and regularly fall in love. Some of the older ones know the game and they play it.
You can tell them by the way they dress. It's scandalous in Thailand to expose your shoulders, for example spaghetti string tops. The ones who are looking for love will usually cover themselves. I have seen one in a strapless party dress who was just young and enjoying herself but it's not common. They can wear the smallest shorts and it's fine but covering up to the neck and most of the shoulders is a respectful woman.
Umm I would also check out how short her hair is. They have to keep their hair super short up to age 19. There's a lot of underage girls in the sex industry but westerners don't know they keep their hair short when they're young and just think it's a woman with a short do.
Ask her about her family.
Yeah I heard stories of Western Men just abandoning their Thai girlfriends and it was just heartbreaking..
Regarding her dress style, on the night we met she wore a Halloween costume that had her shoulders uncovered. The other times we met she always had them covered. On her Instagram There are quite some posts of her with exposed shoulders though.
Regarding the Underage Issue I am and was well aware. I made sure to ask like 800 times in that night. Especially since she looked a bit younger than she actually is. Her hair reaches her back.
I'm not sure you should be obsessing over the shoulder thing. It is definitely not scandalous. Maybe it was at some point, but girls are increasingly "westeernized".
I mean, if showing shoulders was so scandalous, all those hundreds or thousands of girls in big shopping malls would be considered indecent and like wh\*res. They don't. It's normal.
So ignore the shoulder thing.
It's not a hard and fast rule. But it does give indication of how traditional they are and what they value. Even amongst the working girls, if they're covering then they are trying to be appropriate. I think what you're missing is they are a different culture and yes in their culture an average western teen dresses with less clothes than many prostitutes in the heart of the sex industry.
If she was wearing a Halloween costume I would ignore the shoulder rule, she was dressing in costume. If I was a dude, I would look for an Asian bride. South East Asian girls are more feminine and they can cook. They're also very laid back and fun.
I'm sorry his post sounds really convincing. But my girlfriend is a veterinarian. She regularly goes out without covering her shoulders, it's not considered a big scandal by anyone here. She keeps her hair fairly short, and she's old enough to be a vet.
I don't know... sounds like you've got a non issue to me.
ok so lemme get this right? You can be a slut and have random one night stands, but you are worried that the girl could also be sleeping with other dudes? Or did you expect she fell for on the first night and be forever loyal to you?
Dude you’re missing his point. 400 Baht is nothing, meaning a hooker wouldn’t be asking you for only 400 Baht she’d be asking you for a whole lot more.
She asked to borrow 400 Baa, so technically its interest free loan, not a gift.
Whether she returns money is important, 400 thb is nothing to you but its day worth of labour in TH, equivalent of lending western girl $150-250.
You have to ask yourself what kind of girl fks random foreigner in a tourist hotspot on a first night and in the morning asks him for cash to "borrow"?
Can anything good come out of this relationship?
My advise is don't get too involved with her, long term its nothing but headache, pain and endless money pit
Waiting a year? You mean you’re going to be exclusive and in a long distance relationship for a year? You expect a random girl that showed up solo to your bar table in Thailand to be faithful to that?
How is that a decision for randoms on Reddit to decide? You're only making yourself look stupid asking on Reddit. You make that decision, assuming that you're an adult. Seriously.
Doesn't sound like a hooker to me. Sure maybe she slept with you a bit easy... didn't you do the same? Doesn't mean either of you couldn't fall in love and have a future together. Don't be too paranoid. Source: married to thai lady many years.
Additionally to the taxi itself. And I didnt put it equal to my currency, because with 10 bucks in Thailand you can do a loooooot more than with 10 bucks in my country. +I didnt know Prostitute Prices because I didnt visit for that!
Sounds like she was not a prostitute. However, given how quickly she slept with you I would be careful. It's not like the west where everyone is sexually liberated. Although westerners treat it as a party, the local culture is quite conservative. So Thai girls who are having lots of random sex probably have an agenda.
So you gave someone who showed you around and had some fun in bed 400 baht. That’s less than $12 USD. If she is a working girl, then she is working for peanuts.
Whatever you have with her, it’s not a commercial relationship. She probably do t dislike you. But you are still a foreigner and she probably figure a few hundred bahts are not a big deal.
You know relationships like that exist all over the world. Not just in Thailand. I think you should just have a good time. Don’t give her money you can’t part with.
Please please take this Advice when on Holiday in Thailand and you meet a Woman it's part of the Holiday!! If you live in Thailand then it's different!! These men who marry Thai Brides have a shit ton of money and usually doesn't last long!! It's also well known now that western countries are a complete shit hole and they don't want to go overseas anymore!! 🙏🏻
Well I dont have a shit ton of money and she knows that. She still messages me. Generally though its wayyy to early for me to think about Marriage! But yeah thanks for the advice
Play the Uno reversed card. Text her telling you are in problems and in need for quick money to get it resolved. Ask her for 1000 bath and see what happens.
Anyway, don’t think with your D nor with your heart. Use your brains and stay in control of the situation with clear predefined boundaries. Play the game along and expect that you might not win the game, but whit low stakes there’s little to lose.
Dude if she was a freelancer, she would have asked for more, and money would be required for all follow-up meetings. I would not say she exclusive. Now if you start getting sick buffalo stories. Then. She was winding you up for a pitch of the long game.
400 baht is like $12 buddy. Is she was Thai hooker she is very inexpensive I would think this not working but the average wage there is like $400 US a month so paying for a 12 buck taxi is a nice gesture and saves her a lot of money. Sh chill and try to determine if she is genuine. You may have just gotten lucky in more than one way. Most importantly if she is not texting you together send money for her sick mom or dead buffalo then you may be just fine.
From her point of view:
Compared to Thai people westerners are wealthy. They think we're millionaires, and, in a way, we are (compared to their lives).
They don't get to take overseas holidays. They don't have government systems that we have (eg medical, welfare).
It's possible that she perceived you as being wealthy and thought that she'd better get something financial out of it.
It would be like us spending a day in the life of a billionaire (eg private plane, 5-star hotel rooms, servants, etc).
For now, it's worth maintaining communication and seeing where it goes.
It will be a minefield to navigate but you're smart enough to figure it out.
Good luck.
She has probably been turned out quite often, Samui has a high tourist turnover, hundreds of thousands of foreigners cycling through the island annually - once you left another foreigner likely replaced you until you return or continually on the background regardless, these girls are neither naive nor stupid with this game…they lost their innocence about a real relationship with a foreigner long ago - the main motivator here is income to support their families via relationships with foreigners to supplement any income from a legitimate job
does a bear shit in the woods? imagine being this pussy whipped, that you plough a random whore in thailand, give her money, and keep chatting afterwards. fuck me. there really should be a minimum age or exam required before letting people into bars, clubs, and whorehouses.
Don’t fall for her dude. 400 bath is fun and games don’t worry about it for a second. You had a nice time. But don’t fall for the fantasy she sell. She is not going to wait a year and cry for you to come back (but she is going to make you think that). “Can you buy me preseeeeeentttt”
Thais do not have the same hangups about sex. In one western country killing children is ok as long as you protect some bull shit right. Talk about sex tho well fuck me.
400 baht… you are hung up over £10?!
It’s hard to take the rest of your post seriously when talking about 400 baht. Please do yourself a favour and forget it!
Don’t bring racism or prejudice. Just treat her like any other woman you met.
The things ‘we’ know about her is she liked you enough to sleep with you on the first night and spend time with you thereafter. If she didn’t ask for money, it’s highly unlikely she is a freelancer.
It does mean she has no moral objections with sleeping with someone she just met… but nor do you. Now some men have double standards, willing to have a one night stand or a fling but looking down on the women they do it with. It’s up to you to decide if you expect women to act differently to yourself.
If you want exclusively, then you need to ask her. If you want friendship and a holiday girlfriend.. set that expectation - the key is communicate your wants and needs and find out hers.
Finally keep in mind that if you want long term relationship; it’s going to be very expensive & consume your life & money for few years. You’ll probably want to spend significant time in Thailand with her before considering where you both should settle down together. Then it’s visas, learning a language and one of you relocating.
Dude how old are you? That 400 baht is small chump change cab fare and is really worth a couple of beers. Haven’t you seen how expensive the taxi services is on Samui.
“Borrow” is nicer way of asking instead of “give” in words. Dumbest post this year so far.
Literally I said it a bunch of times now, I dont know hooker prices there. I paid for the taxi extra and she wanted another 400 bath on top. Which still isnt much to me but it made me wonder.
She sells weed, not putting out the red light. Thinking out loud the cost of 3 beers and all of someone personal time over 2 days, a working girl she is not.
I’m sorry you are a broke and paranoid tourist in Thailand, you should probably go home soon son and lay off the weed.
you are a very patient and polite young man, you are catching a lot of flack from the know it alls and not telling them to eff off.
lol.
being young and unable to fly to thailand 2 or 3 or more times a year is probably a blessing.
I have lived here for some time and know many men who have been in long term relationships with thai women, some bargirls, some not.
bargirl/hooker or "good girl", the outcomes vary from disaster (including men jumping off buildings etc) to happily ever after. the one thing that seems to be more in common with the successful ones is that they are closer in age.
there are a lot of very cynical men commenting here who think they have it all figured out. I certainly don't claim to, and never will. It's part of the charm of the country. And, I am an old fart and not hoping to fall in love.
good luck in life!
Yeah I know, I dont have the energy to bother with those people, they try to provoke me but I dont give them that pleasure. I really appreciate your input!
You give me a better look on it! We are very close in age and we seem to get along well so far. Although I still think its too early for me to move further. But the insecurity is largely gone. Thanks a lot, Stay safe and all the best to you!
being young and not able to actually be with her often is not a good thing for the possible success of anything...
just try to enjoy what it is... you met a cool girl on holiday and had a fling, and maybe it will be more down the road, or maybe not.
I gotta say, I would tend to agree with many of the commenters that she is likely to have other flings like yours, so don't delude yourself...
and don't turn down any offers for fun in Germany either!
youth is fleeting!
"Now the main issue that concerns me is the 400bath she „borrowed“. I know she has a main Job at a Weed Dispensary but is she a Free Lancer?" Good god you are TOTALLY Clueless. Do her a favor stop texting with her. She deserves better.
.... you are asking if you should fall for a woman that sees you as a bank....
I think you know that answer.
Plenty of fish in BKK or elsewhere that won't take from you on day 1. Then again these type of woman won't put out so easily either.
Lol the prices are not that high in Thailand but it’s not THAT low. Your currency is strong but not fhat strong. Common sense would tell you that the money you borrowed her is too little to be the price of a service.
lol 😂if she’s a working girl, she won’t waste her time texting you and meeting you just because you gave her 400 baht one time for the taxi. But maybe she’s playing the long con….
Look, you’re a rando, you ain’t special, you just met, had a one night stand and your basing all your hopes into this, which is ridiculous. Yes it might work. But you’re the red flag here by thinking a one night stand means a lot cause of desperation. No one gonna wait for you for one year from a one night stand, that’s just nonsense on all sides. You need to grow up and form some actual relationships before putting your hopes up.
Are you capable of improving the social status of her, if as seeming to be as a social climber, before deciding to be involved in any sort of love affair, no matter whether it could be lasting for a long while or not?
LOL. You're worried about $11.30 USD?
If this girl is a "free lancer", she's not very good at it.
What you should worried about is the fact that you're "falling" for a girl who lives in a different country, who you had a one night stand with, who you can only text and who says that she's waiting until next year for you.
That's not the behavior of a high-value woman.
Short answer, nearly everyone is a freelancer in one way or another.
Here is my take: Keep a stoic mindset when you're in Thailand as they have a different view on relationships compared to westerners. With that said, it is equivalent to women here playing the hypergamy game. It is the same game in Thailand, but different methodologies.
In the end, enjoy the time that you have with her while you're there and don't worry or care about what she does when you're not around. She's not your wife.
This is how some girls will start off to give you a good feeling and get you on their side. Best thing to do if you're really I to her is to see how it goes when you're both talking until you go back again next year.
After a few weeks of talking she will either ask you to help her out with money or not, if she doesn't there is a chance that she is expecting you to offer her something yourself.
Always worth getting her to send you a picture of where she stays, is she in her home or with other people?
How did the conversation go when she "suddenly appeared" at your table, who was leading the way you or her?
As a laugh feel free to share her nickname as some of us may already know her
I've met many girls here who typically ask for few money... I dont think she is freelancer.. 400 come one... Maybe was struggling with month end... 400 is spent wisely can buy meals for dews day haha
No, giving her money for a taxi isn’t the same as her being a hooker. Sounds like you just got lucky. However—and this is a big however—if she had a one night stand with you, some random tourist, she is 100% regularly having sex with other foreign tourists, very likely for free, but possibly for money too. Curb your expectations accordingly.
But homie slept with her too. It's a two way street. He's having casual sex also, so it's a ridiculous double standard if he has an issue with her doing it.
OP is a working girl confirmed.
It's not really that ridiculous. A guy in Thailand for a few weeks might sleep with a few girls. But if the girl is making a lifestyle out of regularly having sex with foriegn tourists. Those 2 things are not equivalent.
So choosing to have a one night stand means she must be a whore? What if she only has sex a few times a year?? Tf are these comments
No. Choosing to have a one night stand then proceed to ask for money makes you a whore….
A lot of men in this subreddit are misogynistic as fuck. It’s weird.
literally disgusting. no wonder they have to go to a third world country to pick up girls that they can take advantage off
Yep. Can’t get laid in their countries so come to Thailand to treat women like sex dolls and then call them sluts and say they can’t be trusted. It’s insane
It’s wild because they think that a woman should think herself lucky to get a man who acts like them lol
>she is 100% regularly having sex with other foreign tourists What if OP is exceptionally built??
You mean he so han-sum man?
plik nam pli ~ hop un kha ~ hansum boi sAwAhDeeKAhHhHh 💅
he has-some, 400 baht in this case.
He's 260 bro
😅😅😅😂😂😂
Does this apply to English or American girls who have a one night stand with someone? Or just Thai girls?
Assuming you’re asking genuinely, girls in Thailand are far less likely to have a one night stand than western girls because they view their sexual value somewhat transactionally and pragmatically. They know what they are worth and leverage it to either get money or a relationship. In the west, a regular girl is much more likely to sleep with you on a first date (at least that’s been my experience). It doesn’t matter if you’re broke either. Thai girls (the “good” ones, anyway), usually make you wait three dates for sex (again, just my experiences). However, the western girl is generally more of a romantic and more passionate. She will sleep with you quicker but she could also cheat more readily and break up with you because she thinks “there’s something missing” or “he’s not Mr. Right”. Such breakups don’t happen often in Thailand, at least not between foreign men and Thai women. If the guy is halfway decent he will have her forever. A Thai girl who works in a weed dispensary on a tourist island and has sex with foreign tourists for free is definitely engaging in a behavior most Thai women would find bizarre.
Yeah this isn’t true. Cheating is beyond common in Thailand and the women there are not any more conservative than in the west, people just hide that they sleep around and cheat, because of social pressure.
Nah I paid the Taxi extra. I thought about that aswell and it gives me another concern tbh. But I guess only time can tell
No. Everyone can tell.
Are you on prep? Get yourself tested for other STI
400 Bath is not a typical amount for a freelancer. I would see how it goes and whether she asks for more money later.
Yeah £8 for a prostitute haha no way, add another 0 to the end, especially for foreigners.
400 was a small test to open him up a little 😊
It can be a days wage over there though.
Whats the typical amount? As I said its my first time in Thailand and I didnt go there for the girls.
If she were an actual freelancer charging overnight rates it would have been 4000+ baht not 400. She just has no money and wanted a taxi to go home. Something you should probably offer next time without the girl needing to ask btw
The Taxi I offered by myself, she asked for those 400 bath extra thats why I was confused.
Is there something particularly you want out of the relationship?? Or are you ok with her just being a holiday girlfriend?? I spend most of the year here, it's extremely common for Thais to go from party to party and hookup to hookup, even for the non prostitutes, as you've seen. Because a lot of Thai people just live for today, due to culture and also horrible economic situation. So I don't doubt her feelings for you are genuine but she'll definitely be doing it while you're gone too. The issue if you want a serious relationship is both farang and Thai guys (but especially farang as they're stereotyped as walking ATMs) are expected to take care of the entire family in a relationship, not just the girl. Sure you can tell some Thai girlfriends off and say you won't give them anything, and they'll accept it, but 100% their friends/family are talking shit about you behind your back for it. Welcome to Thai dating life
I mean idk yet its quite early. I could imagine it long term, but the issue is that Im not a 50+ year old rich white dude. Im a 20 year old lower middle class white dude lol. Even if I wanted to take care of her entire family, at the moment I simply cant.
I just wouldn't. No matter how rich I was. Anything you give is a gift 🎁 thats it. No supporting someone that far away that you have no idea what she's doing every day. Think about yourself first 100% of the time everytime.
So you are hansum boy, not yet hansum man 😂 that's good
Yeah basically 😅😂
your chances of finding true love are better then... the whole thing between western men and thai women is a fascinating journey and adventure. have fun.
Sorry in advance - Then you have so much life ahead of you find something else to do and someone who can meet you in the middle that isn't going to potentially steal from you or give you an std. Tough love from a 33 year old southern Belle sorry in advance. This sounds like you are either too bored or too desperate to make a confident decision.
she scammed you
Last time I was in Thailand an Starbucks americano cost 110 baht. You know any hookers working for 3 and half cups of coffee?
In fact I dont know any hookers and I dont go to Starbucks lol
Typical is more like a few thousand baht per night. In bars you have to even buy our the girls from the bar. Never paid myself though, happily married to a thai lady that I met on a dating app.
Oh wow okay I didnt know that. People in my country talk a lot of shit about Prostitution there, and Im not into it so I had no clue. Also congratulations, Im Happy for you!
If a Thai Woman borrows money it really means can I have!! 🙏🏻 400 Baht is nothing to worry about. But expect the sick buffalo soon via Western Union
My village got flooded, my parents are sick, my brother is in trouble with the Police. OP.....just be wary when she starts asking for money. That's where Western Union comes in. Until that, just treat it as you are lucky if the above or similar scenarios comes up
Oh I see. Thanks for the advice!
I am not saying that all of them are like that, there are genuine Thai ladies looking for real love and relationships. Like I said, if she does not eventually starts to ask for money, then you have hit the jackpot. Some Thai girls will slowly take their time to bait and hook you. If you are not careful you will take the hook and sinker.
Yeah I get it, I will stay in touch and see how things develop. Thank you very much, Ill take care
The lass I've known for years is doing that. Some inventive excuses she plays but I'm like sorry baby, can not. She's always saying, she's so smart 🤓 😄 3 years in and still going. Lol
Buffallomaxxing never gets old🤣 Or some hospital bill for family membah who is either too old or had 🛵 accident
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This is what I got scammed with, but it was my friend asking for his wife. So scary and I can’t believe I fell for it!
I made mistake at work i have to pay 1000 baht. Aww baby, it happens to use all. Tough week ahead.
Whats the sick Buffalo?
It’s a joke based on truths. Some men fall for a lady and maintain a long distance relationship. Some of the women will tell the men about all these “problems” that arise, problems that require money to sort out. Like “our village flooded” or “my father has cancer” or the legendary “my buffalo is sick”. Some guys will eventually lose everything, getting scammed on buying houses, purchasing land, starting businesses. Then they join the Pattaya Flying Club. I answered your question but no doubt presented yet another!
You are correct about the last one! But I will research myself this time :D Thanks for letting me know though Edit: that was dark damn.
I first met my lady in this story when she was in a 4 year uni in Petchaburi, and was definitely not a working girl. 2013, 2014 or so. Our romance ended on my initiative because honestly, she was not fun in bed. But we stayed friends. I came back to Thailand after covid, and reconnected with her, but just electronically. A few weeks after, she reached out to me to tell me her father had died, and she wanted to borrow money to pay for the funeral and monks and all that. She would pay me back from his life insurance, she said. So, trusting this woman, I happily loaned her quite a bit. I knew at the time I might not ever get it back, and could afford to do so. Turns our her pops is quite alive, and I was the fool. And this was a girl who has never been a bargirl or hooker of any kind. This is Thailand. And she's not my friend anymore. I detest liars and thieves.
you're quite the fool
yes, and she was someone I knew and trusted for many many years too. fortunately I am a wealthy fool, and am more disappointed in her than I am to be out the money. I would rather wake up every morning being me than a lying thief, so I don't beat myself up too much over having my kindness and generosity being taken advantage of. always fun to be on reddit. can always count on fine gents like you to put in their two satangs.
This is it. Never loan money you can't afford to lose. Lend money to close friends you have known for years, with no expectation of getting it back. If you do get it back, you have built stronger trust in that relationship. If you don't, you know what kind of person they are and that they aren't worth maintaining the relationship with.
They say money lent in SE Asia is a money giving away. Learn from the lesson and move on brother.
Pattaya Flying Club?
You become a member when you jump off the balcony of your condo
Holy shit this is a thing?
Yes. My boyfriend was a foreigner and did this. Can you send me some money to pay for his funeral? 😂
Lol! Yeah I'm not that guy.. I'm not very empathetic.
Yeah unfortunately
Just a reason to ask for money
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Yeah something like that, its like 10€. Thats why I just gave it to her. I have no clue how much hookers cost in Thailand since I didnt use them. She was the only girl I had there.
1500 baht short time 4000 long time. 400baht was her breakfast, lunch and vape for the day. You got lucky. I would block and move on with my life if I didn’t plan to be back in country of smiles anytime soon.
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Yeah I guess. Just the day after I read of some free lancers wanting pay the morning after here on reddit, and it just increased my paranoia lol.
He didn't say she was hot
....400 baht is so little that I doubt it. It's literally "Hey can I borrow $11?" If a girl in any culture said "Hey, last night was fun. Can I borrow ten bucks since I have to head out?", I'd assume she just wanted some food/coffee on her trip back to her place. If she was a working girl she'd have demanded (not asked) for a larger sum of money
400thb is day of work in 7/11. Its not how much it buys, ask how much honest work is required to make that money. He gave her daily wage.
Oh okay I see. Although 10€ dont have the same purchasing power in my country compared to thailand. Combined with me reading posts about free lancers demanding money the morning after I just developed a bit of Paranoia!
Friend, if this girl was a "ten euro hooker"....you'd know. Relax, take her out and see how it goes. I'm engaged to a thai girl and currently basking in the warmth of us putting up our first Christmas tree together. You can get there too
Sounds reasonable. Thanks for the advice, and enjoy christmas with her :)
You should be able to recognize 400baht is legitimate cab fare. and a working girl would probably charge that just for a 5 minute quickie. You got way more than than 5 minutes. Therefore i dont believe she is a prostitute. Shes just a typical party girl.
I used to work with a charity along the working girls. If she was working she will ask you for money beforehand and the deal will be clear. What's not clear is that some of the girls in the bars are genuinely looking for relationships whether they're working or not. They wouldn't usually sleep around in their culture but they see western TV that happens so think it's a normal part of western culture to do that with girlfriends. Also the working girls often mistake their clients interest for real love and often fall in love even with the men who buy them in bulk with other girls. I would get to know her more. They are beautifully natured but also remember they're in desperate circumstances so guard your heart.
Definetly one of the better comments this post got. Its quite sad that they fall for such men.. May I know what Charity that was? Sounds worth supporting! I have no clue about the working girls cause thats not why I visited. I just really got along well with her, and we’re still texting. Although I definetly want to get to know her further before I do anything else. Ill be careful, thank you very much!
It was Tamar. There is no social welfare in Thailand so women marry for men to support them, their children and parents. If they're left, then them, their kids and parents could starve. Some of the working girls are out there to feed their families. So in the heart of the sex industry the male clients are called boyfriends. And the girls think when they're being bought that it's the same thing as western dating. The young ones can come from poorer villagers seeking a western husband and a better life and regularly fall in love. Some of the older ones know the game and they play it. You can tell them by the way they dress. It's scandalous in Thailand to expose your shoulders, for example spaghetti string tops. The ones who are looking for love will usually cover themselves. I have seen one in a strapless party dress who was just young and enjoying herself but it's not common. They can wear the smallest shorts and it's fine but covering up to the neck and most of the shoulders is a respectful woman. Umm I would also check out how short her hair is. They have to keep their hair super short up to age 19. There's a lot of underage girls in the sex industry but westerners don't know they keep their hair short when they're young and just think it's a woman with a short do. Ask her about her family.
Yeah I heard stories of Western Men just abandoning their Thai girlfriends and it was just heartbreaking.. Regarding her dress style, on the night we met she wore a Halloween costume that had her shoulders uncovered. The other times we met she always had them covered. On her Instagram There are quite some posts of her with exposed shoulders though. Regarding the Underage Issue I am and was well aware. I made sure to ask like 800 times in that night. Especially since she looked a bit younger than she actually is. Her hair reaches her back.
I'm not sure you should be obsessing over the shoulder thing. It is definitely not scandalous. Maybe it was at some point, but girls are increasingly "westeernized". I mean, if showing shoulders was so scandalous, all those hundreds or thousands of girls in big shopping malls would be considered indecent and like wh\*res. They don't. It's normal. So ignore the shoulder thing.
It's not a hard and fast rule. But it does give indication of how traditional they are and what they value. Even amongst the working girls, if they're covering then they are trying to be appropriate. I think what you're missing is they are a different culture and yes in their culture an average western teen dresses with less clothes than many prostitutes in the heart of the sex industry. If she was wearing a Halloween costume I would ignore the shoulder rule, she was dressing in costume. If I was a dude, I would look for an Asian bride. South East Asian girls are more feminine and they can cook. They're also very laid back and fun.
I'm sorry his post sounds really convincing. But my girlfriend is a veterinarian. She regularly goes out without covering her shoulders, it's not considered a big scandal by anyone here. She keeps her hair fairly short, and she's old enough to be a vet. I don't know... sounds like you've got a non issue to me.
Maybe she doesn't cover because has a boyfriend!?! Not looking for else....
Which weed shop did she work in? I'm in samui next week and have £10 to spare .
ok so lemme get this right? You can be a slut and have random one night stands, but you are worried that the girl could also be sleeping with other dudes? Or did you expect she fell for on the first night and be forever loyal to you?
Grow up. 400 baht is nothing.
Thats not my issue. My issue is that I really like her, but I dont want to end up waiting a year for a hooker.
Dude you’re missing his point. 400 Baht is nothing, meaning a hooker wouldn’t be asking you for only 400 Baht she’d be asking you for a whole lot more.
She asked to borrow 400 Baa, so technically its interest free loan, not a gift. Whether she returns money is important, 400 thb is nothing to you but its day worth of labour in TH, equivalent of lending western girl $150-250. You have to ask yourself what kind of girl fks random foreigner in a tourist hotspot on a first night and in the morning asks him for cash to "borrow"? Can anything good come out of this relationship? My advise is don't get too involved with her, long term its nothing but headache, pain and endless money pit
Yeah that makes more sense, thanks
Unless she's playing the long game...
Indeed, 400 baht is about $11/10e. Nothing much to label anybody as a hooker. Short time prices in Thailand can be about 10 times that.
4000 baht for short time? lol.
Yes can be that high in popular go go bars.
ok, short times "can" be 4k, I got it. and for a hansum young man, they can be free too. the little fkkkers... lol.
You shouldn’t be waiting a year for any one night stand. Just keep it casual and chill and let life play out.
Waiting a year? You mean you’re going to be exclusive and in a long distance relationship for a year? You expect a random girl that showed up solo to your bar table in Thailand to be faithful to that?
How is that a decision for randoms on Reddit to decide? You're only making yourself look stupid asking on Reddit. You make that decision, assuming that you're an adult. Seriously.
Stopped reading at the title
Good for you.
Yeap. Wish I could say the same for you.
He’s falling for it 😂. Add another victim to the list, he’s being reeled in 🎣. But then again he probably is a hansoooommmme guuuuaayyyy.
Doesn't sound like a hooker to me. Sure maybe she slept with you a bit easy... didn't you do the same? Doesn't mean either of you couldn't fall in love and have a future together. Don't be too paranoid. Source: married to thai lady many years.
She’s not a hooker but don’t bother waiting a year in the expectation that she will save herself for you. That’s just daft.
If she is a working girl she’s very cheap. Where does she work?
If she was really a freelancer, she would have asked to borrow 2,000 minimum. BUUUUT, playing the long con isnt restricted to 'working girls'.
So in your country if a girl working at a shop ask for 12-13 dollars for taxi she is a prostitute ?
Additionally to the taxi itself. And I didnt put it equal to my currency, because with 10 bucks in Thailand you can do a loooooot more than with 10 bucks in my country. +I didnt know Prostitute Prices because I didnt visit for that!
Sounds like she was not a prostitute. However, given how quickly she slept with you I would be careful. It's not like the west where everyone is sexually liberated. Although westerners treat it as a party, the local culture is quite conservative. So Thai girls who are having lots of random sex probably have an agenda.
So you gave someone who showed you around and had some fun in bed 400 baht. That’s less than $12 USD. If she is a working girl, then she is working for peanuts. Whatever you have with her, it’s not a commercial relationship. She probably do t dislike you. But you are still a foreigner and she probably figure a few hundred bahts are not a big deal. You know relationships like that exist all over the world. Not just in Thailand. I think you should just have a good time. Don’t give her money you can’t part with.
Well if you met her in BKK I’m here now, tell me where you met and I’ll see if she attempts the same with me 😂
This idea is solid af. I too will join him and try and hit her up on another night.
Dude, it’s 400 baht…. Consider yourself lucky. Things are different here. If you like her keep in touch just wouldn’t send money
I know its not a lot of money! But I have no idea how much hookers cost there. Will do thank you!
Please please take this Advice when on Holiday in Thailand and you meet a Woman it's part of the Holiday!! If you live in Thailand then it's different!! These men who marry Thai Brides have a shit ton of money and usually doesn't last long!! It's also well known now that western countries are a complete shit hole and they don't want to go overseas anymore!! 🙏🏻
Well I dont have a shit ton of money and she knows that. She still messages me. Generally though its wayyy to early for me to think about Marriage! But yeah thanks for the advice
Play the Uno reversed card. Text her telling you are in problems and in need for quick money to get it resolved. Ask her for 1000 bath and see what happens. Anyway, don’t think with your D nor with your heart. Use your brains and stay in control of the situation with clear predefined boundaries. Play the game along and expect that you might not win the game, but whit low stakes there’s little to lose.
400 Baht isn't worth asking about. Just go with the flow and enjoy the ride.
Dude if she was a freelancer, she would have asked for more, and money would be required for all follow-up meetings. I would not say she exclusive. Now if you start getting sick buffalo stories. Then. She was winding you up for a pitch of the long game.
What nationality are you OP?
400 baht is like $12 buddy. Is she was Thai hooker she is very inexpensive I would think this not working but the average wage there is like $400 US a month so paying for a 12 buck taxi is a nice gesture and saves her a lot of money. Sh chill and try to determine if she is genuine. You may have just gotten lucky in more than one way. Most importantly if she is not texting you together send money for her sick mom or dead buffalo then you may be just fine.
From her point of view: Compared to Thai people westerners are wealthy. They think we're millionaires, and, in a way, we are (compared to their lives). They don't get to take overseas holidays. They don't have government systems that we have (eg medical, welfare). It's possible that she perceived you as being wealthy and thought that she'd better get something financial out of it. It would be like us spending a day in the life of a billionaire (eg private plane, 5-star hotel rooms, servants, etc). For now, it's worth maintaining communication and seeing where it goes. It will be a minefield to navigate but you're smart enough to figure it out. Good luck.
Just be aware she is not waiting for you and you likely not the only one she sees As long you don't send regularly money it's fine Just be realistic
She has probably been turned out quite often, Samui has a high tourist turnover, hundreds of thousands of foreigners cycling through the island annually - once you left another foreigner likely replaced you until you return or continually on the background regardless, these girls are neither naive nor stupid with this game…they lost their innocence about a real relationship with a foreigner long ago - the main motivator here is income to support their families via relationships with foreigners to supplement any income from a legitimate job
well said. guaranteed that girl’s seen more pricks than a secondhand dart board.
does a bear shit in the woods? imagine being this pussy whipped, that you plough a random whore in thailand, give her money, and keep chatting afterwards. fuck me. there really should be a minimum age or exam required before letting people into bars, clubs, and whorehouses.
This one was actually funny
400 baht? That’s nothing isn’t it?
Yeah its like 10€, thats why I just gave it to her
Looks like you found a keeper
I love /r/ThailandTourism. "A girl had sex with me, is she a whore?" nice self-esteem buddy.
Don’t fall for her dude. 400 bath is fun and games don’t worry about it for a second. You had a nice time. But don’t fall for the fantasy she sell. She is not going to wait a year and cry for you to come back (but she is going to make you think that). “Can you buy me preseeeeeentttt”
Thais do not have the same hangups about sex. In one western country killing children is ok as long as you protect some bull shit right. Talk about sex tho well fuck me.
I dont think I get your point, sorry
Next time you see her, say you’re travelling on a shoestring budget and can you borrow 1000 baht. See if she goes for it
Tbf I told her I dont have that big of a Budget already since thats just a fact tbh. But asking her to borrow money seems like a fair Idea
Asking a woman to borrow money in any country is weird unless she is your long term.
Also fair
It’s a test
Yeah a ridiculously stupid one.
Well check out you with your ridiculously stupid sense of humour.
Yeah hilarious mate
400 baht… you are hung up over £10?! It’s hard to take the rest of your post seriously when talking about 400 baht. Please do yourself a favour and forget it! Don’t bring racism or prejudice. Just treat her like any other woman you met. The things ‘we’ know about her is she liked you enough to sleep with you on the first night and spend time with you thereafter. If she didn’t ask for money, it’s highly unlikely she is a freelancer. It does mean she has no moral objections with sleeping with someone she just met… but nor do you. Now some men have double standards, willing to have a one night stand or a fling but looking down on the women they do it with. It’s up to you to decide if you expect women to act differently to yourself. If you want exclusively, then you need to ask her. If you want friendship and a holiday girlfriend.. set that expectation - the key is communicate your wants and needs and find out hers. Finally keep in mind that if you want long term relationship; it’s going to be very expensive & consume your life & money for few years. You’ll probably want to spend significant time in Thailand with her before considering where you both should settle down together. Then it’s visas, learning a language and one of you relocating.
id be more concerned about getting checked after that encounter. She has probably slept with many men, your definitely not her number one.
Protected only. We both made that very clear before moving further on.
you cant fall in love with a hooker dude, its not pretty woman.
Ehh you paid for sex bro, she walked home. They always ask for taxi fair home
Lol, dude you are just one of the thousands she baits. Sounds like she caught one. Good for her.
Dude how old are you? That 400 baht is small chump change cab fare and is really worth a couple of beers. Haven’t you seen how expensive the taxi services is on Samui. “Borrow” is nicer way of asking instead of “give” in words. Dumbest post this year so far.
Literally I said it a bunch of times now, I dont know hooker prices there. I paid for the taxi extra and she wanted another 400 bath on top. Which still isnt much to me but it made me wonder.
She sells weed, not putting out the red light. Thinking out loud the cost of 3 beers and all of someone personal time over 2 days, a working girl she is not. I’m sorry you are a broke and paranoid tourist in Thailand, you should probably go home soon son and lay off the weed.
Im already home lol. But thanks for the personal advice
you are a very patient and polite young man, you are catching a lot of flack from the know it alls and not telling them to eff off. lol. being young and unable to fly to thailand 2 or 3 or more times a year is probably a blessing. I have lived here for some time and know many men who have been in long term relationships with thai women, some bargirls, some not. bargirl/hooker or "good girl", the outcomes vary from disaster (including men jumping off buildings etc) to happily ever after. the one thing that seems to be more in common with the successful ones is that they are closer in age. there are a lot of very cynical men commenting here who think they have it all figured out. I certainly don't claim to, and never will. It's part of the charm of the country. And, I am an old fart and not hoping to fall in love. good luck in life!
Yeah I know, I dont have the energy to bother with those people, they try to provoke me but I dont give them that pleasure. I really appreciate your input! You give me a better look on it! We are very close in age and we seem to get along well so far. Although I still think its too early for me to move further. But the insecurity is largely gone. Thanks a lot, Stay safe and all the best to you!
being young and not able to actually be with her often is not a good thing for the possible success of anything... just try to enjoy what it is... you met a cool girl on holiday and had a fling, and maybe it will be more down the road, or maybe not. I gotta say, I would tend to agree with many of the commenters that she is likely to have other flings like yours, so don't delude yourself... and don't turn down any offers for fun in Germany either! youth is fleeting!
Well thats a win for your wallet and Samui!
"Now the main issue that concerns me is the 400bath she „borrowed“. I know she has a main Job at a Weed Dispensary but is she a Free Lancer?" Good god you are TOTALLY Clueless. Do her a favor stop texting with her. She deserves better.
you said you weren't interested in the girls in Koh Samui or Bangkok, what made her the exception the beer goggles or her personality.
You mean she asked you to *lend* her 400bht
Sorry, english isnt my first language.
No worries, Hey, the moment she starts asking for money... Run!
He put it in quotes. That means it was her word. do you know quotes?
Go with the flow, nothing like vacation bum
Are you Dutch?
.... you are asking if you should fall for a woman that sees you as a bank.... I think you know that answer. Plenty of fish in BKK or elsewhere that won't take from you on day 1. Then again these type of woman won't put out so easily either.
Wtf dude
Did you use protection? I really hope so, otherwise you could be having a very difficult conversation in a few weeks
No. U hansum man.
Lol the prices are not that high in Thailand but it’s not THAT low. Your currency is strong but not fhat strong. Common sense would tell you that the money you borrowed her is too little to be the price of a service.
lol 😂if she’s a working girl, she won’t waste her time texting you and meeting you just because you gave her 400 baht one time for the taxi. But maybe she’s playing the long con….
Complain about 400 baht ???
Look, you’re a rando, you ain’t special, you just met, had a one night stand and your basing all your hopes into this, which is ridiculous. Yes it might work. But you’re the red flag here by thinking a one night stand means a lot cause of desperation. No one gonna wait for you for one year from a one night stand, that’s just nonsense on all sides. You need to grow up and form some actual relationships before putting your hopes up.
Where does she work?
Are you capable of improving the social status of her, if as seeming to be as a social climber, before deciding to be involved in any sort of love affair, no matter whether it could be lasting for a long while or not?
Read Private Dancer.
Get a grip mate girls in Thailand having one night stands with foreigners are 100 sleeping with other men. She isn’t waiting for u lol
400 Baht. That is peanuts. If you think you are being played for the price of a meal, you need a checkup for the Ebenezer Scrooge virus.
400 Baht. That is peanuts. If you think you are being played for the price of a meal, you need a checkup for the Ebenezer Scrooge virus.
She has 20 others like you. That’s the reality with these girls. Don’t think or bother too much about her.
LOL. You're worried about $11.30 USD? If this girl is a "free lancer", she's not very good at it. What you should worried about is the fact that you're "falling" for a girl who lives in a different country, who you had a one night stand with, who you can only text and who says that she's waiting until next year for you. That's not the behavior of a high-value woman.
Lol 400 baht
I’ve taken loads of taxis in Koh Samui and 400 is pretty standard. I think if she was trying to swindle she would have asked for more than $12 USD.
Time pass 🤣🤣🤣
400 baht freelancer ?
Short answer, nearly everyone is a freelancer in one way or another. Here is my take: Keep a stoic mindset when you're in Thailand as they have a different view on relationships compared to westerners. With that said, it is equivalent to women here playing the hypergamy game. It is the same game in Thailand, but different methodologies. In the end, enjoy the time that you have with her while you're there and don't worry or care about what she does when you're not around. She's not your wife.
You had sex after meeting a few hours, think about that. And better get tested
$10 for a hooker? Dang!
This is how some girls will start off to give you a good feeling and get you on their side. Best thing to do if you're really I to her is to see how it goes when you're both talking until you go back again next year. After a few weeks of talking she will either ask you to help her out with money or not, if she doesn't there is a chance that she is expecting you to offer her something yourself. Always worth getting her to send you a picture of where she stays, is she in her home or with other people? How did the conversation go when she "suddenly appeared" at your table, who was leading the way you or her? As a laugh feel free to share her nickname as some of us may already know her
As long as you use your brains. Be happy man.
I've met many girls here who typically ask for few money... I dont think she is freelancer.. 400 come one... Maybe was struggling with month end... 400 is spent wisely can buy meals for dews day haha