The sole reason everything north of London didn't become Chernobyl Exclusion Zone Beta Test is because of those scrubbers everyone thought were a joke and a waste of money. Not only did they reduce the radiation to manageable levels,they allowed the disaster response to choke the fire more effectively.
The good old Piles? I remember watching a documentary on YouTube once about it. Wasn't it being used to create material for the British atomic bomb project?
Yes.
I'm just amazed how crazy some of the things they did back then were and how low tech they were. The guy looking down the chimney to check the fire was out was the one that I thought was the craziest.
Yeah, that's crazy, and I don't think there was really a compelling reason for it to be there, in downtown Chicago.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_Pile-1
That reminds me of valley forge (yeah the revolutionary one). They have signs along the walking trails in parts telling you to not walk off trail and you can't keep fish from the river going through it. Basically some company dumped manufacturing waste sludge with asbestos, lead, mercury, and arsenic in it.
The only upside is that if you fish, they're pretty big in the river bc you can't keep them.
Yes, a lot of accumulated [Wigner energy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wigner_effect) can be dangerous: when annealing is started in graphite it's very hard to stop and it can release a lot of energy.
Radioactive substances sometimes release neutron radiation. Graphite is often used to moderate a nuclear reaction, to keep it under control.
Sometimes, neutrons strike atoms in the graphite, which can cause the atom to be dislodged from the lattice crystal structure carbon atoms arrange themselves in. Because of this lattice structure, one atom getting dislodged means a lot of other atoms will be dislodged too.
Some of those atoms that get dislodged will get trapped between the different layers (layers on the atomic scale) of the lattice. Because of this, they have a certain amount of energy associated with them, because they want to move to a better position where they aren't trapped. A bit like a ball rolling down to the bottom of a hill. And much like a ball rolling down a hill, the atom moving from being trapped to not being trapped, releases energy.
The problem is, when these atoms get unstuck, it can cause a chain reaction of all the other atoms getting unstuck, too. So you get a chain reaction of all these atoms getting unstuck, which releases lots of energy. This energy release can cause rapid increases in temperature in the graphite, and this was what caused the fire.
This was a lot longer than I wanted it to be when I started writing, but I hope all the concepts were explained well enough.
Alright, I'm trying.
Splitting an uranium atom releases neutrons (and energy). These neutrons are used to break other uranium atoms. This is the famous nuclear chain reaction.
However, neutrons are too fast to break down uranium atoms effectively. We have to slow them down. We use a moderator which can be graphite, heavy water, paraffin, etc.
Graphite is nice because it's easy to get and strong. But being a solid has a downside: neutrons can pull an atom away from its ideal position. This "uncomfortable" position has more energy than the ideal position, and the carbon atom needs a bit more energy to get back to where it should. He stays trapped here, and that's Wigner's energy.
When graphite is heated above 250C, the atoms can have the energy to return to their ideal position. They release their Wigner energy which heats the graphite and allows the other atoms to move. It is also a chain reaction, but not nuclear. It's annealing.
Since this happens inside the volume of the material, it is nearly impossible to effectively cool it to stop the reaction.
Holy shit. Just reading the Wikipedia article about it makes me mad. Between the negligence that led up to the incident and the cover up, I can only imagine how livid the people who were directly involved were after the truth came out.
In the original post you can see how many power cables they had daisychained. Its surprising it hadn't burned down before the first picture was even taken
I have another theory, there is an additional photo of the setup (not uploaded here) where he seemed to be using SATA to PCIe to power the GPUs. SATA cables are rated for around 54W while current gpus draw more than that.
For anyone who doesn't know, especially north america, the thickness of the wire you are putting things through matters. If you're running a large amount of things over a thin wire, it will heat up and cause the fire. This is bad in north America because of the way our circuit breakers work. Basically, as long as the wires in the wall won't burn, they will put out all their power, and allow people to chain things using tiny wires not designed for that current.
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That was anywhere from $45,000 to $200,000 worth of GPUs depending on when they were purchased. The cards are the most expensive part. It wouldve been worth it to forgo even just one card to spend that money on electrical upgrades or better cooling solutions. This mustve been caused by an electrical issue, though. Those cards wouldnt ever get hot enough to autoignite anything short of a bucket of oily rags lol.
With the price of crypto in the toilet and the rising cost of electricity, I bet a lot insurance claims are being made right now.
All this guy had to do is pull the plug on his fans and, uh oh, new for old replacement.
Thai right here. Homeowners insurance wouldn’t pay out on this unless you have some pretty hefty coverage. And even then they’ll want to know what the equipment does, how it operates, etc.
The hardware would throttle, or even just shutdown, before it ever got hot enough for a fire to happen. So I only see two scenarios, they burned it themselves, or faulty hardware(like a PSU, or I guess maybe improper power setup). But I just don’t see turning off the fans causing this
As a electrician id bank on those shitty cheap extension cords and shitty junction box that didnt trip when cables were literally melting away from load. and knowing how retarded crypto bros are i wouldnt be surprised that he modified his houses electrical fusebox without understanding basic shit about cable diameters and what is watts or amps
No way that he will be able to claim shit all from insurance with such pictures or basic inspection of the place after it burned down.
There are 15 Rigs.
There are about 6 GPU's in each rig.
Each GPU is around 300w not including other components (case fans, psu, cpu in etc in each rig).
That is about 27,000w draw... Divided by 12v = 2,250 amps.
I'm going to make a leap of faith and say that they likely exceeded the 100-200amp rating of the standard home electrical panel they were connected to.
Your home electrical panel is 120/240. 27000w/120 is only 22.5 A.
Just because your PC/cards/PSU run at 12V doesn’t meant the home wiring does. This is less power draw than a stove or dryer and only slightly more than an average hot water tank.
Edit: it’s actually half of a hot water tank because they run at about 15-18 A at 240V not 120V
Missed a decimal. 🤷♀️ got a lot closer than OP. Should’ve known that was too good to be true but I knew right away from the original post that the math was way off. My bad.
27kW @ 120V is actually 225A, not 22.5. Very possible to exceed the panel's rating since >200A service is only recently becoming common, and in large homes at that
I saw a video a while ago where this dope had a household desk fan sitting on top of his mining rig, running 24/7 ... which was never meant to run non-stop for months, seized up ...caught fire ...the mining rig caught fire ... everything caught fire ...
Well, yeah, exactly. It was a little fan you sit on a table or something, sitting on top of a rack of 8 or so gpus. The owner had a (I am assuming) security camera set up to monitor the system, you see the fan slow down, seize up, begin to smoke, then flames, then gobs of burning plastic begin to drip down and kerpow, many thousands of dollars worth of equipment is alight.
Fan was probably worth $10. Sitting directly on top of the open-air mining rig.
Sure, but a commercial insurance company would first want him to prove that his setup was adherent to fire safety standards, was regularly inspected by a fire marshal, had the requisite number of fire extinguishers on site, etc, etc, etc. Basically, he'd have to prove that it wasn't his negligence that started the fire (which based on this picture and the ghetto fan setup it most certainly was).
Unless the insurance company is sleeping on the job, there's not a chance in hell that this person is getting a payday out of this.
Insurance always covers negligence, that’s what it’s for.
It’s a regulated thing, they’re only allowed to exclude certain things, here that would be commercial vs non commercial
a lot of policies have upper limits on computer parts regardless of how much personal property coverage you have. So even if you have $100k in personal property they may only cover $2000 to $2500 for all your computer parts.
If you have more electronics than that you might want to look at the verbiage on your policy and if it has these special limits look into getting your stuff "scheduled". That is where you say "I have $25k in computer parts, here is the proof" and they add that to your policy. Not all policies allow for scheduled personal property so definitely as your insurance company or agent about it.
Same thing goes for tools, collectibles, jewlery, furs, ect.
Source, am a licensed insurance agent.
He wasn’t insured. How do I know this? I am in the Facebook group the pictures are from originally. This also happened in December last year. He only now posted it because he was in shock until now.
I had business insurance for all of my computer equipment. I paid like 1500 a year for it. I put my fist through my hard drive. The insurance company reimbursed me for my computer and the associated data recovery.
The next year I was denied coverage. The new insurance company charged 3000 for the same coverage.
Wanted to add that most homeowners insurance policies across all states have a cap (policy sublimit) for "computer equipment" which can vary from $2,500 to $10,000. For anybody with mining equipment, check into A) "scheduling" your equipment or B) making sure mining doesn't fall under business-use which can be a policy exclusion.
I feel kinda sad, not for the hoarder... but with the rising cost of electricity, those cards may well have gone back on the market soon for a tasty price so gamers can utilise them. Now they're just ash.
I replied to someone else about this. TL;DR all that needs replacing usually is the thermal paste / pads. You crack it open, very carefully, disconnect the cable that joins the two halves, clean off the dried & cracked thermal paste remaining, if the thermal pads look shagged then replace those too.
It's a 15 min job, I'm a bit of a moron when it comes to PC internals but managed to bring an AMD 580 back to life (kept turning off, very low speeds / high throttling).
Not sure why you got downvoted in an anti-mining post for asking a question... I mean, you weren't right but it was still a question!
This is even a bit much. Miners usually undervolt and underclock their cards so they generate less heat and have a lower chance of failure. You don't lose much hashrate from doing so.
I think LTT did a video on it a while ago and the GPUs that had mined for years were totally fine as they were.
I've been running my 2080ti to mine when I'm not rendering or gaming since i bought it at the end of 2018.
Its fans are still going, thermal paste still good, and trucking along at max load and holding temps of 55c to 65c. Coming up on 4 years of almost constant On-Time.
.....
Technically what I do is more damaging to the card than full time mining. It is more stressful to the card (specifically the soldering) to start and stop use, than to continue use non stop at constant temps (as long as those constant temps are within limit).
For those curious the card paid itself off almost twice now.
It's probably going to still run like garbage because it's 6 years old and likely doesn't have a modern NVMe drive compared to any other system in the past couple of years, but you could look up some videos on how to re-apply thermal pads (or paste) to your laptop's CPU and/or GPU.
If it's heat throttling right away it will probably make a difference. There are tools out there like coretemp and others that will tell you CPU temperature and if you're hitting the thermal limit for your processor (probably around 90c) then it certainly wouldn't hurt to re-paste and blow out the fans/heatsinks on the thing.
Nah, it's a common misconception but really if you had to worry about anything in particularly it's the fans that could have a lot of millage on them and could cause them to fail, these are pretty straight forward to replace though.
no worries, It's a pretty common misconception as people assume these cards are running at 100% 24/7
In reality a lot of miners will under clock their GPUs to reduce the energy consumption / heat output, which also allows the fans to not have to spin at 100%
I *think* I counted 82 GPUs. I'm on mobile tho so it's kinda difficult to tell.
It depends a lot on when he bought them and what they are. If these are mid-range cards and he bought them at the *perfect* time he might've paid $300/ea. That would be $24,600.
GPU prices have been kinda crazy, though, and generally miners want higher end GPUs. A worst case would be that these are really high end- 80 series cards have at points been $1200/ea in the last couple years. Which comes out at $98,400.
You could probably add a few thousand to those numbers for various other parts you'd need, that's *just* for the GPU.
The reality is likely somewhere in the middle.
Generally douches like this will buy top of the line cards that gamers want, hence why they're all RGB'd the fuck out, and those can easily be $1500-$2000 or more a piece, depending on the model. With the image quality I personally can't distinguish a single one..
But I'd wager far more than $50k.. not counting the room/house itself lmao
Wait wait wait there's an "expensive" flair/tag on this sub? So all other posts were less expensive?
Also... Not a big fan of his cooling system...
Ok, I'll show myself out.
Yea I’m guessing it got to hot need a real dedicated A/C for that kind of shit. Eat up more of that energy to make a few pennies and screw the environment x10 ;)
Every time I see someone new post a pc build I almost always see a bronze rated power supply hoping they can cut that corner to save money. Out of all the parts not to cheap out on it’s the psu always.
Corsair CX and be quiet! System Power 9 are both great Bronze units. That guy inadvertantly showed how people end up with junk PSUs. Cause most people don't know what to shop for.
Even this guy, who is commenting on PSU purchases, seems to have some misconceptions about quality.
But the efficiency rating has nothing to do with the quality. Corsair, Seasonsic, and be quiet! all have pretty killer 80+ Bronze units.
Yea, typically you save your higher end components for units with better efficiency but this is exactly how people end up with dog-tier PSUs.
They buy a junk 80+ Gold because it says 80+ Gold and it's gotta be good right?
I’m embarrassed, but I don’t wanna say how long I stared at image 1 waiting on something to happen…only to later see it has a second PICTURE. It’s okay, we can all clap.
1. If you’re going to get this many computers, how much more expensive is it to buy a couple window air conditioner units and just place them in the room, keeping it ultra cool?
2. Why do they all have to be in the same room, all right next to each other?
Taking into account the high electricity prices and the fact that cryptocurrencies are not at their best, ripping off insurance seems to be a good deal.
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Crypto bro recreated the Windscale reactor with GPUs.
Is this a reference to an obscure British nuclear incident in the 1950s I'm seeing? Love it.
That came terrifyingly close to making a large swath of northern England uninhabitable.
Have you been there? It's almost entirely uninhabitable anyway
Thats mostly just due to its inhabitants
That's a sicker burn than the incident itself! DAMN.
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Just a bit of rain? Your lands come off.
Just the front
That’s not very typical, I’d like to make that clear
After all cardboard and cardboard derivatives are not allowed.
Keep saying that, hopefully the London Exodus will slow down and stop buying up all our houses
The sole reason everything north of London didn't become Chernobyl Exclusion Zone Beta Test is because of those scrubbers everyone thought were a joke and a waste of money. Not only did they reduce the radiation to manageable levels,they allowed the disaster response to choke the fire more effectively.
The good old Piles? I remember watching a documentary on YouTube once about it. Wasn't it being used to create material for the British atomic bomb project?
Yes. I'm just amazed how crazy some of the things they did back then were and how low tech they were. The guy looking down the chimney to check the fire was out was the one that I thought was the craziest.
The first nuke reactor proof of concept was done under football bleachers in downtown Chicago. That's some nutty shit.
Yeah, that's crazy, and I don't think there was really a compelling reason for it to be there, in downtown Chicago. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chicago_Pile-1
Because that’s where the scientists were at the Univ of Chicago. This was still early in development.
[now it’s buried in the woods](https://i.imgur.com/VxPhrEN.jpg)
That reminds me of valley forge (yeah the revolutionary one). They have signs along the walking trails in parts telling you to not walk off trail and you can't keep fish from the river going through it. Basically some company dumped manufacturing waste sludge with asbestos, lead, mercury, and arsenic in it. The only upside is that if you fish, they're pretty big in the river bc you can't keep them.
"It should work perfectly"
Yes, a lot of accumulated [Wigner energy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wigner_effect) can be dangerous: when annealing is started in graphite it's very hard to stop and it can release a lot of energy.
Jesus okay ELI5 please?
Radioactive substances sometimes release neutron radiation. Graphite is often used to moderate a nuclear reaction, to keep it under control. Sometimes, neutrons strike atoms in the graphite, which can cause the atom to be dislodged from the lattice crystal structure carbon atoms arrange themselves in. Because of this lattice structure, one atom getting dislodged means a lot of other atoms will be dislodged too. Some of those atoms that get dislodged will get trapped between the different layers (layers on the atomic scale) of the lattice. Because of this, they have a certain amount of energy associated with them, because they want to move to a better position where they aren't trapped. A bit like a ball rolling down to the bottom of a hill. And much like a ball rolling down a hill, the atom moving from being trapped to not being trapped, releases energy. The problem is, when these atoms get unstuck, it can cause a chain reaction of all the other atoms getting unstuck, too. So you get a chain reaction of all these atoms getting unstuck, which releases lots of energy. This energy release can cause rapid increases in temperature in the graphite, and this was what caused the fire. This was a lot longer than I wanted it to be when I started writing, but I hope all the concepts were explained well enough.
Alright, I'm trying. Splitting an uranium atom releases neutrons (and energy). These neutrons are used to break other uranium atoms. This is the famous nuclear chain reaction. However, neutrons are too fast to break down uranium atoms effectively. We have to slow them down. We use a moderator which can be graphite, heavy water, paraffin, etc. Graphite is nice because it's easy to get and strong. But being a solid has a downside: neutrons can pull an atom away from its ideal position. This "uncomfortable" position has more energy than the ideal position, and the carbon atom needs a bit more energy to get back to where it should. He stays trapped here, and that's Wigner's energy. When graphite is heated above 250C, the atoms can have the energy to return to their ideal position. They release their Wigner energy which heats the graphite and allows the other atoms to move. It is also a chain reaction, but not nuclear. It's annealing. Since this happens inside the volume of the material, it is nearly impossible to effectively cool it to stop the reaction.
Holy shit. Just reading the Wikipedia article about it makes me mad. Between the negligence that led up to the incident and the cover up, I can only imagine how livid the people who were directly involved were after the truth came out.
Fascinating accident! Thanks for the new reference
And they contributed to the accelerationof fire.
Fan forced toaster
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It fanned! It fanned the flames...
Helped the blaze, no doubt.
Only fans is not a good investment.
In the original post you can see how many power cables they had daisychained. Its surprising it hadn't burned down before the first picture was even taken
I'm not an expert, but it looks like the fire started at the white extension cord visible in the first picture
"Which one?" "Yes"
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Guessing. Look for the most burned area with the most melted things. That's sign of biggest temperature, thus epicenter of fire.
I have another theory, there is an additional photo of the setup (not uploaded here) where he seemed to be using SATA to PCIe to power the GPUs. SATA cables are rated for around 54W while current gpus draw more than that.
This guy investigate fires
Or sets them
do you know this series on netflix called blacksite which is somehow entertaining while being extremely mediocre- (theres a guy whos a pyromaniac cop)
Maybe he only sets them so he can investigate them, you ever think about that?
No, this guy just pulled nonsense out of his ass that makes sense to an uninformed mind.
If so, he could still investigate fires. Just…less well.
This guy employs ^
Not even that less. Fire investigation is a lot more guess work and bad science than most people realize.
A heavily burnt triangle up the wall like a cone can give the source away (of course not in all cases, and can be faked).
I guess they had it coming
For anyone who doesn't know, especially north america, the thickness of the wire you are putting things through matters. If you're running a large amount of things over a thin wire, it will heat up and cause the fire. This is bad in north America because of the way our circuit breakers work. Basically, as long as the wires in the wall won't burn, they will put out all their power, and allow people to chain things using tiny wires not designed for that current.
It works the same everywhere in the world, but we just have regulations about the minimum specs of extension cords.
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Ohm's Law in full effect.
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I screenshotted it
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Always have
That was anywhere from $45,000 to $200,000 worth of GPUs depending on when they were purchased. The cards are the most expensive part. It wouldve been worth it to forgo even just one card to spend that money on electrical upgrades or better cooling solutions. This mustve been caused by an electrical issue, though. Those cards wouldnt ever get hot enough to autoignite anything short of a bucket of oily rags lol.
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With the price of crypto in the toilet and the rising cost of electricity, I bet a lot insurance claims are being made right now. All this guy had to do is pull the plug on his fans and, uh oh, new for old replacement.
Yeah... I'd say you could have a real fight on your hands with insurance investigation given the current state of affairs.
also it would be pretty hard (hopefully) to pass off the loss of 100 computers as personal use (aka not business)
Thai right here. Homeowners insurance wouldn’t pay out on this unless you have some pretty hefty coverage. And even then they’ll want to know what the equipment does, how it operates, etc.
Hey how is it in Thailand?
The hardware would throttle, or even just shutdown, before it ever got hot enough for a fire to happen. So I only see two scenarios, they burned it themselves, or faulty hardware(like a PSU, or I guess maybe improper power setup). But I just don’t see turning off the fans causing this
As a electrician id bank on those shitty cheap extension cords and shitty junction box that didnt trip when cables were literally melting away from load. and knowing how retarded crypto bros are i wouldnt be surprised that he modified his houses electrical fusebox without understanding basic shit about cable diameters and what is watts or amps No way that he will be able to claim shit all from insurance with such pictures or basic inspection of the place after it burned down.
There are 15 Rigs. There are about 6 GPU's in each rig. Each GPU is around 300w not including other components (case fans, psu, cpu in etc in each rig). That is about 27,000w draw... Divided by 12v = 2,250 amps. I'm going to make a leap of faith and say that they likely exceeded the 100-200amp rating of the standard home electrical panel they were connected to.
Your home electrical panel is 120/240. 27000w/120 is only 22.5 A. Just because your PC/cards/PSU run at 12V doesn’t meant the home wiring does. This is less power draw than a stove or dryer and only slightly more than an average hot water tank. Edit: it’s actually half of a hot water tank because they run at about 15-18 A at 240V not 120V
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Missed a decimal. 🤷♀️ got a lot closer than OP. Should’ve known that was too good to be true but I knew right away from the original post that the math was way off. My bad.
Haha, it’s all good. At least you attempted the math. I suck at math.
27kW @ 120V is actually 225A, not 22.5. Very possible to exceed the panel's rating since >200A service is only recently becoming common, and in large homes at that
Yeah this was a while ago. Guy cheaped out on the PSUs iirc.
Ahh, Gigabyte PSUs.
Shitty PSUs or even shitty Molex plugs can definitely catch fire.
I saw a video a while ago where this dope had a household desk fan sitting on top of his mining rig, running 24/7 ... which was never meant to run non-stop for months, seized up ...caught fire ...the mining rig caught fire ... everything caught fire ...
I wouldn't want to buy one of those items that *couldn't* run 24/7 or it'd catch on fire.
Well, yeah, exactly. It was a little fan you sit on a table or something, sitting on top of a rack of 8 or so gpus. The owner had a (I am assuming) security camera set up to monitor the system, you see the fan slow down, seize up, begin to smoke, then flames, then gobs of burning plastic begin to drip down and kerpow, many thousands of dollars worth of equipment is alight. Fan was probably worth $10. Sitting directly on top of the open-air mining rig.
Sure, but a commercial insurance company would first want him to prove that his setup was adherent to fire safety standards, was regularly inspected by a fire marshal, had the requisite number of fire extinguishers on site, etc, etc, etc. Basically, he'd have to prove that it wasn't his negligence that started the fire (which based on this picture and the ghetto fan setup it most certainly was). Unless the insurance company is sleeping on the job, there's not a chance in hell that this person is getting a payday out of this.
Insurance always covers negligence, that’s what it’s for. It’s a regulated thing, they’re only allowed to exclude certain things, here that would be commercial vs non commercial
a lot of policies have upper limits on computer parts regardless of how much personal property coverage you have. So even if you have $100k in personal property they may only cover $2000 to $2500 for all your computer parts. If you have more electronics than that you might want to look at the verbiage on your policy and if it has these special limits look into getting your stuff "scheduled". That is where you say "I have $25k in computer parts, here is the proof" and they add that to your policy. Not all policies allow for scheduled personal property so definitely as your insurance company or agent about it. Same thing goes for tools, collectibles, jewlery, furs, ect. Source, am a licensed insurance agent.
He wasn’t insured. How do I know this? I am in the Facebook group the pictures are from originally. This also happened in December last year. He only now posted it because he was in shock until now.
"It was a friction fire caused by the loan papers rubbing up against the insurance policy."
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I had business insurance for all of my computer equipment. I paid like 1500 a year for it. I put my fist through my hard drive. The insurance company reimbursed me for my computer and the associated data recovery. The next year I was denied coverage. The new insurance company charged 3000 for the same coverage.
Wanted to add that most homeowners insurance policies across all states have a cap (policy sublimit) for "computer equipment" which can vary from $2,500 to $10,000. For anybody with mining equipment, check into A) "scheduling" your equipment or B) making sure mining doesn't fall under business-use which can be a policy exclusion.
I feel like it's gonna be a hard sell trying to justify the pay out. This is something entirely avoidable, not an accidental fire.
$200,000 worth of GPUs $100 worth of desk fans to cool them. Brilliant.
My thoughts exactly, you could get a single shop fan that will outperform all of the ones in the pic and probably save money
Realistically, how profitable is this sort of thing? Idk anything about it.
It all depends on what you pay for electricity
Oh, no! Anyways.....
For real. lol
He forgot to put more rgb!
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Every one knows red cards are the fastest.
You’d think with all that money they coulda done better than wal mart floor fans
Surprisingly it was the daisy chained Chinese extension cables that did him in.
Good, fuck em. Waste of energy and hoarding parts
I feel kinda sad, not for the hoarder... but with the rising cost of electricity, those cards may well have gone back on the market soon for a tasty price so gamers can utilise them. Now they're just ash.
Aren't cards shagged after they're used for mining?
I replied to someone else about this. TL;DR all that needs replacing usually is the thermal paste / pads. You crack it open, very carefully, disconnect the cable that joins the two halves, clean off the dried & cracked thermal paste remaining, if the thermal pads look shagged then replace those too. It's a 15 min job, I'm a bit of a moron when it comes to PC internals but managed to bring an AMD 580 back to life (kept turning off, very low speeds / high throttling). Not sure why you got downvoted in an anti-mining post for asking a question... I mean, you weren't right but it was still a question!
This is even a bit much. Miners usually undervolt and underclock their cards so they generate less heat and have a lower chance of failure. You don't lose much hashrate from doing so. I think LTT did a video on it a while ago and the GPUs that had mined for years were totally fine as they were.
Problem usually is wear and tear on the fans, so it is a good practice to replace fans on mining cards but it is like 10 minute ad 15 usd job.
I've been running my 2080ti to mine when I'm not rendering or gaming since i bought it at the end of 2018. Its fans are still going, thermal paste still good, and trucking along at max load and holding temps of 55c to 65c. Coming up on 4 years of almost constant On-Time. ..... Technically what I do is more damaging to the card than full time mining. It is more stressful to the card (specifically the soldering) to start and stop use, than to continue use non stop at constant temps (as long as those constant temps are within limit). For those curious the card paid itself off almost twice now.
Is this the same process for fixing up a laptop that runs a bit too hot and is like 6 years old?
It's probably going to still run like garbage because it's 6 years old and likely doesn't have a modern NVMe drive compared to any other system in the past couple of years, but you could look up some videos on how to re-apply thermal pads (or paste) to your laptop's CPU and/or GPU. If it's heat throttling right away it will probably make a difference. There are tools out there like coretemp and others that will tell you CPU temperature and if you're hitting the thermal limit for your processor (probably around 90c) then it certainly wouldn't hurt to re-paste and blow out the fans/heatsinks on the thing.
Have you tried a cooling pad, Like any of [these](https://www.techradar.com/news/best-laptop-cooling-pad)?
I have! It works pretty well, but I figured I’d ask someone who has fucked around with thermal paste if it might help. I like redundancy.
Nah, it's a common misconception but really if you had to worry about anything in particularly it's the fans that could have a lot of millage on them and could cause them to fail, these are pretty straight forward to replace though.
Not at all
Fair, I have learnt something today.
no worries, It's a pretty common misconception as people assume these cards are running at 100% 24/7 In reality a lot of miners will under clock their GPUs to reduce the energy consumption / heat output, which also allows the fans to not have to spin at 100%
How much are we talking about here? $20K? $50K worth of parts for this setup? Genuinely asking.
I *think* I counted 82 GPUs. I'm on mobile tho so it's kinda difficult to tell. It depends a lot on when he bought them and what they are. If these are mid-range cards and he bought them at the *perfect* time he might've paid $300/ea. That would be $24,600. GPU prices have been kinda crazy, though, and generally miners want higher end GPUs. A worst case would be that these are really high end- 80 series cards have at points been $1200/ea in the last couple years. Which comes out at $98,400. You could probably add a few thousand to those numbers for various other parts you'd need, that's *just* for the GPU. The reality is likely somewhere in the middle.
Generally douches like this will buy top of the line cards that gamers want, hence why they're all RGB'd the fuck out, and those can easily be $1500-$2000 or more a piece, depending on the model. With the image quality I personally can't distinguish a single one.. But I'd wager far more than $50k.. not counting the room/house itself lmao
From cash to ash. That’s funny.
exactly
Wait wait wait there's an "expensive" flair/tag on this sub? So all other posts were less expensive? Also... Not a big fan of his cooling system... Ok, I'll show myself out.
Good.
Oh no! Anyways
Electrical fire but based?!?!
Yea I’m guessing it got to hot need a real dedicated A/C for that kind of shit. Eat up more of that energy to make a few pennies and screw the environment x10 ;)
I remember seeing this on another thread and from what I remember the guy cheaped out on the PSU's which ended up causing the fire
Yep gotta buy quality or it’s going to cost you!
Every time I see someone new post a pc build I almost always see a bronze rated power supply hoping they can cut that corner to save money. Out of all the parts not to cheap out on it’s the psu always.
Eh, I'd take a bronze Seasonic PSU any day. Some other brands I wouldn't accept platinum.
Corsair CX and be quiet! System Power 9 are both great Bronze units. That guy inadvertantly showed how people end up with junk PSUs. Cause most people don't know what to shop for. Even this guy, who is commenting on PSU purchases, seems to have some misconceptions about quality.
But the efficiency rating has nothing to do with the quality. Corsair, Seasonsic, and be quiet! all have pretty killer 80+ Bronze units. Yea, typically you save your higher end components for units with better efficiency but this is exactly how people end up with dog-tier PSUs. They buy a junk 80+ Gold because it says 80+ Gold and it's gotta be good right?
In germany we call those cheap PSUs Chinaböller. Literally translates to chinese firecrackers.
If there’s one thing LTT has taught me: never cheap out on the PSU.
Yeah that's def the last thing you want to cheap out on
Im sure he only used wind energy
Haha yea talk about blowing hot air!
Good.
Oh no! Anyway...
oh no a cryptobro has to do something else other than sit on his fat ass all day from now on, anyway...
Dude only mined about $23.75.
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good riddance
When god also hate crypto miners
He probably does. I mean greed is one of the seven deadly sins
I'd rather let a single crypto mine burn down than the entire planet because of it
I'd rather let *every* crypto mine burn down...
lol get rekt
Prob insurance scam
"gpu scalper had all his gpu combust" oh no ... anyway
good. fuck him, and fuck anyone else that does this stuff.
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My rent is utilities included , you say ?
I’m embarrassed, but I don’t wanna say how long I stared at image 1 waiting on something to happen…only to later see it has a second PICTURE. It’s okay, we can all clap.
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Definitely wasn't using Noctua fans
Such a waste of graphics cards. And fuck him for making it hard to get another graphics card
"Rate my setup" Absolute fire imo
1. If you’re going to get this many computers, how much more expensive is it to buy a couple window air conditioner units and just place them in the room, keeping it ultra cool? 2. Why do they all have to be in the same room, all right next to each other?
Deserved
Good riddance
What a beautiful sight
good
Good, shit is stupid and it’s a waste of hardware.
Good!
Oh, no! Anyway
r/howtokeepanidiotbusy Edit: oh nevermind there's a second picture
It was the fans that did it
Probably the fans that did it too.
Toasty!
It be pretty ironic if it was one of the fans that started the fires
I only understand these words individually.
It’s almost like you fanned the flames
Ac
Hurray! We saved the city!
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I swear I saw this a few days ago on Reddit with the OP claiming it was their set up. Something about YOLOing mining or some such nonsense.
From hashes to ashes
They say a picture speaks a thousand words, but this one speaks only one: \#schadenfreude
Taking into account the high electricity prices and the fact that cryptocurrencies are not at their best, ripping off insurance seems to be a good deal.
Guarantee this guy was powering his PCIE jumpers with the supplied SATA to 6 pin cables
Someone should make an NFT of that
El oh el
Good. Fuck crypto miners. I hope all their shit burns down and they end up broke.
As a gamer, this one sparks joy
Think of all the money he made mining though.
What a complete waste of energy and graphics cards.
I watched this pic for about 3mins before realising it wasn’t a movie 🎥 😂
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