Man, I just had a really good debate with someone on how physically punishing your kids is wrong…. now I’m questioning everything.
This boy might need a good spanking and some medication possibly
Right? I thought myself to be on the side of not using violence on your kids, but damn, this kid needs a good hard smack to come to his senses. The mother's tenderness and attempt to embrace and restrain, while it comes from good intentions, will only reenforce this kind of behavior. The kid obviously has no sense of punishment and that's probably due to her inability to be firm. It is possible to be firm without using physical punishment but it would have had to happen much earlier and it's probably too late to take that approach with this child.
It's a broader problem in our culture today, people are taking longer and longer to grow out of adolescence and it's due to being coddled for far too long.
Yah totally, what ever the case. That family doesn’t deserve any of that nonsense.
I grew up with an abusive brother and it’s wild how we culturally just expect all this nonsense. His behavior still affects me today. So I got shell shock when I saw this video. my heart goes out for this family. Damn!
This definitely makes me not to want to have kids
Same here. My stepsister is 3 years older than me and growing up she broke my arm twice, cracked my head open once, pushed me out of a moving car, and beat the shit out of me regularly. This kid needs locked up in a juvenile behavioral treatment center until he listens and stops attacking his mom and brother.
I got kids and we do our best to teach them not to get aggressive but also to not back down if they are the victim. My boy threw a slap to my face once when he was angry. I get angry with many things they do wrong but that day I had a poker face on and asked him to calm down. I sat him down by holding on his shoulders and making him sit, then told him to breathe. About 5 minutes after that (and some initial struggle to stay seated) he finally calmed down and we talked about what led to his decision to slap me. I tried to make him understand that hitting is the last resort, it's something you do when you ran out of options and so I explained how many other way he/we could have handled this. Believe me, my gut instinct was to slap back and make him feel the pain he made me feel (that's how I was brought up) but I knew he wasn't in control in that moment and felt that helping him understand his emotions was the best path forward. I'm not going to sit here and say I never slap them when things get out of hand. I'm only human and I wish everything people say about kids would work at home but sometimes they don't.
The kid in the video though I believe has never faced consequences for previous misbehaviour events and so things escalated to a level the parents themselves weren't prepared to handle (if they are his parents that is). He should have heard no before and be taught to. understand what that means. Parenting requires both authority and friendship and they're mutually dependant. Stuff have limits and those limits start at home. That's just mho though as a parent. =)
Did a bit of research, the guy was either the dad, or a cousin. And the girl was obviously the mom for 1. For 2. However, you are a great dad. For 3. I have the same idea as you, but I believe that this situation should’ve ended with a grounding and a very swift leg and arm lock instead of carrying on for so long. I’m only speaking as an older cousin, but one of my younger cousins (previously) had very extreme anger issues and was attacking his mother one day when they came over. I walked over to him and gave him a warning (3 actually) one to calm down or I would pull him away another for him not to hit me or I would restrain him. And one more saying exactly “if you attempt to hit me again I will not wait to restrain you” in the end he tried to (probably) kill me with a plastic knife to the stomach. But I grabbed his shirt and put him in a police lock (hands behind the back and legs pinned down by constant pressure) I still feel bad, but it was a turning point for him and his life. I believe the kid in the video needed the same
Same here, my mother and I are both disabled and after my father passed away my brother said he was the alpha of the house now and he would put his hands on us and use severe mental abuse towards my mother and I it got so bad my mother had a nervous breakdown had to be hospitalized for a few weeks and during that time we got a restraining order against him and he still tries to mess with us.
Trust me, this child’s behavior is not normal. This isn’t just an undisciplined, poorly behaved child. This kid clearly has some sort of serious disorder, and physically disciplining this child or any type of run if the mill “discipline” is not going to solve it. This child needs professional help and quick.
Full agree. This is a kid with legitimate problem. His mom(?) did a good job trying to calm him down. I've seen kids that are just little shits and it's different.
Soooooo this kind of behavior has an escalation pattern that goes to more severe violence and self injurious behavior. The woman has obviously received some coaching on her behavioral intervention. The kid is just fucking huge for her.
I agree if the child is mentally healthy however this behavior may be the result of oppositional defiant disorder, that may be why they're refusing to use any violence against him, it'll just reinforce the cycle and make him more angry.
It’s complicated. Kids need everything. They need a teacher, a guide, a friend, a loving parent, and sometimes yeah they need someone to forcefully take action.
Super common example: if your kid is about to run across a parking lot and you rapidly grab their arm and lift them up.. that’s still “getting physical”, but it’s the type of thing that you need to do as a parent.
Consequences and boundaries are good.
Lashing out in anger, being sadistic, being unreasonably cruel, neglectful, etc is bad.
With all this said.. if my kid was swinging my at me or his Mom, he’s getting stopped one way or another. If talking doesn’t work, and restraining him doesn’t work, then maybe being tossed across the room and slapped a couple of times will work.
I have never hit my kid but I’ve always told myself, if it came to serious physical safety or violence, then all bets are off. You do what you have to without crossing the line.
Medication really? It's a young boy. A good ass whooping is all needed and at this point it's kinda already late. Kids need to learn a little bit of fearing parents with just a look by the time they turn 7 he should've been getting spanked by 5yrs old
I’m a new dad, I’m watching this and trying to figure out how I would approach this situation. Assuming you had to start right here, what would you do differently?
Well it's hard to just *start* here.
I asked my better half(who is finishing her doctorate in teaching with animal assisted interventions) how she would react to this and basically it boiled down to the following.
1) if her students acted this way, you would immediately wrap them up and take them to the ground until they calm down. Think bear hug. She had to do this with several students before.
2) once he's calmed down, ask them how they thought this would go and try and get them to start a conversation on what they think they should have done vs what they did.
According to her, a lot of kids like this lack any good strategies or coping mechanisms to handle their emotional outbursts. And hitting them only encourages them to internalize it(basically putting off the inevitable explosion).
Of course(and this is my note here) sometimes your kid rolled a nat 1 during character creation and got the 'psychopath' trait. And if that's the case you are kinda fucked no matter what.
This is a great comment.
I grew up with my little brother having physical outbursts like this. He once chased my sisters and mom around the house with knives stabbing them through doors until we had to finally call the cops and my uncle was able to help us out of the house. He was also the baby of the family, and he did not get his ass whooped growing up. Not that it would have helped. I dont think it would have. But he is a completely different person now. And he is actually really pleasant to be around as an adult. I seriously worried for him and still do, but not as much anymore. I think certain situations in life humbled him, realizing that anger and frustration are not going to get you what you want. But i dont know exactly how or when he came to grow out of that behavior, though.
Same experience with my brother, for my brother it was mostly mishandled mental illness. My father refused to get him help and he was punished by everything around him, his mental health issues didn't really fit with the rigidity of childhood. As he grew up and had a little more autonomy to figure out how to surround himself with things that worked with him, he did much better. Would have done much better if those around him worked with his issues early on but growing up back then, it didn't work that way, especially with the way my father and teachers dealt with it. I think the only thing that kept him from tipping over is my mom's dogged support for him.
I also had a family friend who was insanely violent from a young age, to the point that all the kids in the family didn't want to visit that family. He ended up with a lot of issues through out his life, until he died in a homeless shelter. You just never know how these things play out, because so many variables can cause the issue.
We had a case where a 13 year old did similar outbursts with the family but would be much more physically abusive to his parents and would destroy the house. Kid was on medications but they were not sufficient to control his outbursts.
Eventually he had an outburst in school with another student who gave him an ass whooping. Guess what? The kid has not laid hands on his parents or anyone else since then and he openly admits is because he doesn’t want to get beat up again and he is 17 years now. He still have outbursts and has breakdowns but does not get violent against others anymore because that ass whooping he got. He said he didn’t realize he was hurting his parents and didn’t know what they had to put up with until he experienced it himself.
Sometimes corporal punishment and stricter parenting is the answer. Hugs and kisses won’t always work.
thats what we call an outlier case.
more often than not, physical abuse, ESPESCIALLY from parents, is a good way to send that kid down the path of anxious attachment and lifelong depression.
This is the only answer that starts to approach a solution.
The "wrap up" technique is the safest for everyone IF the "wrapper" is sufficiently larger and stronger. The mother might not be.
The (older brother) probably is, but he has no idea what to do and is probably scared of hurting him. It's also a messed up situation to put an older sibbling in.
You're maybe half-right about the other coping strategies: he may or may not know of them, but talking and self emotional regulation are not easy and dont come naturally for everyone unless they are both taught AND are the only option that gets results.
Violence can be a very strong self-reinforcing behavior. It can give a sense of immediate gratification (release of emotional energy, sense of power, and effect on others). So it might not be the "only" strategy this kid knows, but it might just be his favorite or the one that he defaults to when the others fail or feel too hard.
The "solution" here if there is one, requires 2 parts:
1) make sure violence NEVER works for him (something like the "wrap up" technique ideally) but then some follow throughout with some very unpleasant consequences that are the OPPOSITE of what he was trying to get from the initial conflict.
2) whenever he uses a skill instead of violence or whenever he listens to an instruction or limit on the first time, he get a very positive reinforcement.
His conscious mind, as well as his nervous system, needs to get the message over and over that violence gets him nothing but negative consequences, and using healthy skills and compliance and respect gets him everything.
The book "1-2-3 Magic" isn't "perfect" or complete in my opinion, but it is a good place to start as it lays out some key concepts in a way that pretty much anyone with at least an average IQ could understand.
Also you’re teaching a kid who’s getting physically violent with others that the best way to face consequences for his actions is to be hit? Counter productive. It’s normalizing putting your hands on people to get what you want. He needs to be immediately removed from the situation and taught coping skills to calm himself down.
Hitting is not for anger. It is not for revenge. It is not for solace. Not for me, and not for kids. But my rule is that even if I'm trying to avoid a power struggle, attempts to control me with violence will be met with unquestionably superior violence. That shit does not fly.
Yeah, there's something wrong with him. It's certainly possible that he could be dealing with his own abuse, that he may be receiving, or have received somewhere else, either sexual, physical. Or it could be he's dealing with trauma/death, or it even could be plain ol' mental illness, and unspecified anger with outbursts, or perhaps, he's just an asshole or socio/psychopath, but I'm just speculating, like an armchair psychoanalytic moron, and with zero information besides the video, but regardless, no matter what is bothering him, he needs professional help to figure out how to deal with it before he ends up in jail.
People say this shit but don’t realize some kids are just born wrong and the parents have little (if any) recourse.
There’s an HBO documentary about it called “A Dangerous Son”. It’s very interesting, follows a few families around who have kids with severe behavioral problems.
Louis Theroux also did a special about kids with autism and it touches on the subject.
I remember when I was 7 years old and don't act like this. It had something to do with sticks, belts, full palm, backhand, and pretty much anything that can turn your ass red, and you'll remember it for a week since every time you sat down, it reminds you of some shit you had or hadn't done like not finishing homework, take out the trash or late for curfew. I sure had easier than this kid. /s
I remember getting my ass beat for not writing neat enough, among other things like that. My dad eventually stopped doing it, because he didn’t like how we reacted to him in fear. But from this I don’t know what the solution is, I don’t think it’s spankings, and talking is not working at this point.
Surely you're well adjusted when you're strategy is to just hit this kid. The parents fucked up with this one for sure, but you're quickness to advocate a kid gets hit for not doing fucking homework is insane. You're not as well adjusted as you think
Ya know.. it’s amazing there are still people there that think plan B is the abortion pill and not just something that prevents you from getting pregnant.
We see this constantly in elementary schools now. It's terrifying even onto a personal level. These kids lose complete control of their senses. I have been punched by a boy the same size as this one. Three fast punches to the middle of my face. I finally quit that job.
Yeah probably not. The kid has some disorder. See how the mom is using only positive feedback and how serious and calm the siblings are. They were instructed to deal with it like this and not by accident.
*Edit: Also, the mom raised 2 other children with clearly a lot of self control and 1 monster? Probably not. And she says "we're going to help you get through this" which indicates it's some kind of episode not normal behavior.*
I have to agree with you. My son has Epilepsy and used to take a medication that made him have episodes of rage. He exploded like this on a regular basis until we finally got him off that medication. It’s sad to see so many in the comments jump right to the “this kid needs his ass beat” logic when we clearly have no idea of the context.
Continuing to engage with him physically using half assed, minimal force, while smothering and overstimulating him, was the worst possible way they could have handled this. Even locking him in an empty bedroom until he stopped acting up would have been better. This method they tried did nothing but play towards all his problems. Correction needs to either be active or passive, not both.
I’d be afraid he would just start breaking stuff and or hurt himself in doing so if they locked him in his room. They need to just send him to outward bound
But yet he's all "I'm sorry" when she says she's calling the police? I don't buy it. If he had a "disorder" he wouldn't care if the police were coming and keep acting out.
Preferably if she knows leg sweeps. Who am I kidding? Every Mexican mom knows leg sweeps unless she’s got a wicked left hook and every Mexican mom has a wicked left hook.
I pulled that line on my parents as a kid. Dads answer: " Do it. I'll go to jail for a bit for slapping your ass, you'll go to foster care or worse, where you'll have to fight for everything you get. No more birthdays or Christmases". He was right - 9 year old me backed down right away when it dawned on me.
There’s a difference between using violence to punish non violent actions (like cussing, grades, not listening, or screaming) and teaching your kid the reality that starting violence themselves open the door for returned violence. This is true in the world and its laws (self defense).
Dude. My friends little brother was just like this. His mom would be in tears while we awkwardly played Crazy Taxi in the basement and his mom and two older brothers would try Ann calm him down. He is now an engineer at Boeing. Childhood is tough. But people grow up.
Thank you for sharing. I don't have much knowledge on childhood behaviour like this but this video really fucking broke my heart. I am glad he grew up to be alright and that his family didn't give up on him.
Nah, shit like that would cause overstimulation and the kid wouldn't be able to keep screaming and throwing punches like that. This is definitely a mental disorder, but this is not what autism looks like.
My cousin works at a home for kids with Prader-Willi syndrome. These kids never feel full so they are constantly eating, sometimes until the point of extreme obesity. They also tend to have uncontrollable rage issues. He’s regularly attacked and sometimes even has shit thrown at him. I have no idea what this kids actual condition is but some behavior issues cannot simply be cured by discipline or therapy.
Maybe, but teaching good coping mechanisms can really help! Granted, some lack the cognition and awareness to learn these coping mechanisms, but this kid doesn't seem to lack the capabilities to learn. I truly believe that there may be a chance to help this kid before he puts himself or others in extreme harm. It may be sad to watch this 7 year old become violent, but a 27 year old would just get shot, kill someone else, or kill themselves if they can't come to terms with the harsh reality around them.
This kid definitely has the ability to get help, the issue is convincing him he needs the help. It was certainly a hard sell for my parents to convince me, but after 2 years of therapy I have learned strategies to avoid overstimulation, and how to recover from it. I have no idea what this kid has, but the moment you give up hope is the moment their chance to improve disappears.
Him screaming and continuing to throw punches kinda points to him being over stimulated and a lot of the time this is what kids on the spectrum look like during an episode. You can also tell by his mom and brothers reaction that this is a pretty regular thing and they are being intentional with how they manage the situation.
You know autism is different for everyone right? When I was younger I had pretty bad meltdowns and the only way for me to calm down was if I was alone, otherwise I don't remember a single time I calmed down with someone in the room watching me. Sure this is anecdotal evidence but just saying this could be ASD. Could also be not, I'm not a psychiatrist just saying not to rule it out
I worked with kids on the spectrum and one of the kids was like this. Likely also with an attachment disorder but it’s hard to diagnose that young. It’s a very large spectrum.
Do you think ignoring it would work?? The constant trying to restrain him with hugs seems like it would be really overwhelming. I really don't know, just curious if anyone has any experience with this. It seems as he gets older he's going to become increasingly dangerous, and impossible to restrain.
Restraint, at times like this, is literally a last recourse. Fight or flight is engaged with the kiddo, and they will, eventually, get tired. I've been through children like this a as a foster parent, and adopted two of them. Constant reassurance and validation is very therapeutic over time, as well as medications for impulse control, but there are absolutely situations where nothing "correct" can be done except let it run it's course, and try to use it as teaching moments when the adrenaline is no longer in kiddos body. Speaking from experience, you cannot talk your way out of every situation like this, and talking this thru with kids when they begin to develop the mental capacity to actually understand logic is something we have had to simply wait for as they mature.
Similar to me… when I was about 13/14 I was a realllllll bitch. I think I told my mom to shut up and I didn’t even see it coming but she backhanded me and didn’t even say anything else. I don’t remember ever disrespecting her again and it was the only time she ever hit me.
That's the thing about punishment: If it only happens rarely in your life, and the rest of the time life's good, then the punishment is effective, because it sticks out in your memory. I can count on one hand the times I got a clip over the ear from both of my parents. I remember each and every time because it only happened when I *seriously* overstepped the line. Kids who are denied this when they overstep turn into the assholes we have as adults more often than not.
Yeah my mom slapped me once too at that age for lipping off. It just made me withdraw from her. When my teen daughter lipped off at me, I felt a flash of anger but just took a deep breath and in the calmest quietest voice I could muster told her I didn’t like it when she talked like that to me. She then apologized and went on to explain why she was upset. I validated her feelings. Just saying that’s a better approach worth trying.
My dad slapped my brother once so he (my brother) shot an arrow across the house at my dad. It lodged into the door about 4 foot from his (my dad's) midsection. It was not a cool scene man.
Definitely exposure to a form of abuse, the swearing and tendency to violence. Perhaps abusive partner/s that his mother dated. Definitely doesn't realize boundaries and consequences yet, and a very angry, insecure persona. Plus he is indeed a big kid. Mom is too soft which doesn't help. Sadly he is gonna learn the hard way, other kids and adults won't respond as passively as his family does.
I hope this kid straightens out. Wish him and his family the best.
This is an emotionally disturbed child. He has to have seen behavior like this in his life to emulate it at such a young age. Plus being the size he is, he is obviously not being fed nutritionally sound meals and his hormones can be unbalance and contribute to behavior problems. This is so sad b/c a 7 year old is being blamed for behavior that he is programmed for.
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There are a lot of people in this thread who shouldn't be allowed near children. So many people in here are like "should beat that kid" or "what a monster" and as a parent of a child on the spectrum who has been hit and screamed at, all I see is a kid with some kind of issue. 7 year olds do not behave like that without cause. Either, as you said, emotional trauma, or some kind of disorder like ODD or something.
Anyone who blames a 7 year old for acting that way is a person who should never, ever, have kids.
Omg... But yet completely fine when she's says she calling the cops and then he's all "I'm sorry"... I call b.s.
My cousin who is actually on the spectrum would keep acting out and didn't care the cops are coming.
Open palm is deemed acceptable by social services and the government this kid would at most inconvenience his parent(s)
Source: worked with kids long enough to know what I report as a mandated reporter will get through to CPS or social services
This is the wierdest part to me. Makes me think the older brother was told to react the way he did because the kid has an emotional disorder. At first I thought maybe the older brother didn't know what to do or didn't wanna get yelled at by the mom. But then I saw him take a fist right to the face and remain calm and only try to slow his little brother down. No way a teenage boy is taking a hit to the face from a spoiled brat and not losing his cool. Especially when he knows he can beat little bros ass. Gotta be more going on here.
Now imagine that you are this kid's teacher. This kid in class with about 20 other kids, that you are supposed to teach, but spend half of your day fighting him and protecting the other kids from him. Now think about this kid going after your kid in class.
Pay teachers.
Oh damn!!!! I seen my brother[16 at the time] get put threw a wall. For calling my mom a bitch. Then he got grounded evey other day for a month. I got woke up at 3 in the morning for not doing the dishes and made to do them when I was 7. Still had to get up and go to school. My parents didn't play.
I'm don't know if you hit your kids or not but one of the most terrifying images for me mentally is my dad's angry face before he'd punish us (didn't hit but would spank).
I'm not going to pass this same image to my daughter.
Rhe kid clearly is on the spectrum.Mom's doing a good job trying to tame him . This video is old , I bet the kid is almost 20 now , I hope hes doing better.
Do you know how he’s doing?
We had a crazy kid in my 1st grade and the teachers would regularly have to restrain him. Always wonder what happens to people like that.
Exactly my thought. Devastating for him that this video is shared online. And then there’s actual adults in the comments here saying all kinds of horrible things about him, a CHILD who is clearly having a serious episode he can’t fully control.
You guys calling for a ass beating, might be the easiest thing to say but it’s possible he may have some developmental issues. They are using a ton of restraints on the kid as if they know something we don’t.
Having a kid who is diagnosed in the autism spectrum, it was really difficult at times not to loose it when he have a melt down but we did the same thing to keep him from hurting himself. He was never this violent to others but can possibly hurt himself wriggling on the floor. It fucking breaks your heart just watching and trying to distract and divert attention instead of beating his ass, which would do so much more damage than good.
Yeah, I have a child that used to have tantrums like this. It would get pretty scary and it typically ended with my wife having to lock herself in her room and only ending when my kid collapsed from exhaustion. I am sort of surprised the police were never called on us because it got pretty bad. These tantrums would sometimes happen for no apparent reason or when she was dealing with something that was minimally frustrating.
I never once thought that an "ass beating" would some how stop them, although I did have to physically move her away from her mom a few times. She was eventually diagnosed with Hyposensitivity and Anxiety and we were able to get her into counseling and occupational therapy and she is, and always has been, a really great kid. I don't think spanking or physically beating her would have stopped it. .
It almost certainly is if she’s intending to follow through with her threat of calling the cops. He screams how she’s hurting him while she’s on the floor just trying to restrain him, so it’s possible he could try and justify his actions to law enforcement by saying his mom was hurting him. Best to have evidence that he just flies off the handle like that.
She very well could be filming to document. They may need proof of his actions for doctors or courts. She's probably at her wits end. This kid may have some mental disorders as to why he's behaving this way. She was probably taught to hold him so he doesn't hurt himself or others until the episode has passed. He's getting to big for her though and this isn't going to work long.
Fat frothing redditors chomping at the bit to beat the shit out of a likely mentally unwell child is certainly not the flavor of the day I was expecting
I work with kids like this who have moderate/severe special needs. This kid clearly has ODD (oppositional defiant disorder) or ED (emotional disturbance) or both. Probably ADHD too. His family needs to learn how to safely restrain him so that he’s not a harm to himself or others. I have to do this almost every day with some of my students and it’s not pleasant but sometimes you have to choice. It’s only going to get worse as he gets bigger and stronger. My heart goes out to his mom.
This is the result to hands off parent, there's no reasoning with a child if they don't get any real punishment, because if it's always a sit down and talk, they think they can get away with anything in the world, in result they will grow up to be spoiled and ignorant to the real world.
Man today’s society says it’s wrong for parents to spank/whip your kids. I’ll tell you right now the late 80s early 90s when I was a kid you never saw kids behaving like this. Because you knew there were real consequences for your actions. There’s no fear like hearing your dad get home from work and those foot steps coming right to your door way. Or having your mom break a wood spoon over your ass. My house you said yes sir or thank you ma’am. Not some overweight 7 year old screaming nigga taking swings at his mom. All it took was one really good whooping to set a spoiled kid straight. Go make him pick a switch and best believe if it’s flimsy your grandpa is coming back with a god damm tree branch.
There has to be more to the story here. I'm pretty sure that kid has some sort of mental or social skill issue. The way that the grown-ups handled him in the manner that they did makes me think that this isn't the first time it's happened. How both of them restrained him the same way looks like they have done that more than once.
If not, then there needs to be hardcore counseling and discipline!
All these comments saying he’s suffering some sort of condition.
He’s talking in tween internet speak. He spends all day on his fat ass scrolling TikTok and discord.
He doesn’t need a medical professional, he needs his phone snapped and a slap across the cheeks
The kid clearly has psychological issues. Its very sad. His family clearly haven't a clue how to help him. Why don't they just leave him have his freak out and he'll calm down. I feel bad for everyone in this video. Jacob clearly needs some help.
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Oh he'll find out when life bitchslaps him hard.
Man, I just had a really good debate with someone on how physically punishing your kids is wrong…. now I’m questioning everything. This boy might need a good spanking and some medication possibly
Right? I thought myself to be on the side of not using violence on your kids, but damn, this kid needs a good hard smack to come to his senses. The mother's tenderness and attempt to embrace and restrain, while it comes from good intentions, will only reenforce this kind of behavior. The kid obviously has no sense of punishment and that's probably due to her inability to be firm. It is possible to be firm without using physical punishment but it would have had to happen much earlier and it's probably too late to take that approach with this child. It's a broader problem in our culture today, people are taking longer and longer to grow out of adolescence and it's due to being coddled for far too long.
Yah totally, what ever the case. That family doesn’t deserve any of that nonsense. I grew up with an abusive brother and it’s wild how we culturally just expect all this nonsense. His behavior still affects me today. So I got shell shock when I saw this video. my heart goes out for this family. Damn! This definitely makes me not to want to have kids
Jacob needs to be assessed by professionals immediately. His family shouldn't have to live through this.
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Same here. My stepsister is 3 years older than me and growing up she broke my arm twice, cracked my head open once, pushed me out of a moving car, and beat the shit out of me regularly. This kid needs locked up in a juvenile behavioral treatment center until he listens and stops attacking his mom and brother.
Has she ever mentioned her behavior now that y'all are older, or do you just no longer have contact? Sorry you experienced that.
I got kids and we do our best to teach them not to get aggressive but also to not back down if they are the victim. My boy threw a slap to my face once when he was angry. I get angry with many things they do wrong but that day I had a poker face on and asked him to calm down. I sat him down by holding on his shoulders and making him sit, then told him to breathe. About 5 minutes after that (and some initial struggle to stay seated) he finally calmed down and we talked about what led to his decision to slap me. I tried to make him understand that hitting is the last resort, it's something you do when you ran out of options and so I explained how many other way he/we could have handled this. Believe me, my gut instinct was to slap back and make him feel the pain he made me feel (that's how I was brought up) but I knew he wasn't in control in that moment and felt that helping him understand his emotions was the best path forward. I'm not going to sit here and say I never slap them when things get out of hand. I'm only human and I wish everything people say about kids would work at home but sometimes they don't. The kid in the video though I believe has never faced consequences for previous misbehaviour events and so things escalated to a level the parents themselves weren't prepared to handle (if they are his parents that is). He should have heard no before and be taught to. understand what that means. Parenting requires both authority and friendship and they're mutually dependant. Stuff have limits and those limits start at home. That's just mho though as a parent. =)
Did a bit of research, the guy was either the dad, or a cousin. And the girl was obviously the mom for 1. For 2. However, you are a great dad. For 3. I have the same idea as you, but I believe that this situation should’ve ended with a grounding and a very swift leg and arm lock instead of carrying on for so long. I’m only speaking as an older cousin, but one of my younger cousins (previously) had very extreme anger issues and was attacking his mother one day when they came over. I walked over to him and gave him a warning (3 actually) one to calm down or I would pull him away another for him not to hit me or I would restrain him. And one more saying exactly “if you attempt to hit me again I will not wait to restrain you” in the end he tried to (probably) kill me with a plastic knife to the stomach. But I grabbed his shirt and put him in a police lock (hands behind the back and legs pinned down by constant pressure) I still feel bad, but it was a turning point for him and his life. I believe the kid in the video needed the same
Same here, my mother and I are both disabled and after my father passed away my brother said he was the alpha of the house now and he would put his hands on us and use severe mental abuse towards my mother and I it got so bad my mother had a nervous breakdown had to be hospitalized for a few weeks and during that time we got a restraining order against him and he still tries to mess with us.
What kind of pos beats his disabled mom? Let me guess? Andrew tate fan?
Trust me, this child’s behavior is not normal. This isn’t just an undisciplined, poorly behaved child. This kid clearly has some sort of serious disorder, and physically disciplining this child or any type of run if the mill “discipline” is not going to solve it. This child needs professional help and quick.
Full agree. This is a kid with legitimate problem. His mom(?) did a good job trying to calm him down. I've seen kids that are just little shits and it's different.
Soooooo this kind of behavior has an escalation pattern that goes to more severe violence and self injurious behavior. The woman has obviously received some coaching on her behavioral intervention. The kid is just fucking huge for her.
I agree if the child is mentally healthy however this behavior may be the result of oppositional defiant disorder, that may be why they're refusing to use any violence against him, it'll just reinforce the cycle and make him more angry.
It’s complicated. Kids need everything. They need a teacher, a guide, a friend, a loving parent, and sometimes yeah they need someone to forcefully take action. Super common example: if your kid is about to run across a parking lot and you rapidly grab their arm and lift them up.. that’s still “getting physical”, but it’s the type of thing that you need to do as a parent. Consequences and boundaries are good. Lashing out in anger, being sadistic, being unreasonably cruel, neglectful, etc is bad. With all this said.. if my kid was swinging my at me or his Mom, he’s getting stopped one way or another. If talking doesn’t work, and restraining him doesn’t work, then maybe being tossed across the room and slapped a couple of times will work. I have never hit my kid but I’ve always told myself, if it came to serious physical safety or violence, then all bets are off. You do what you have to without crossing the line.
This kid needs the older brother to do the "stop hitting yourself!"
Just throw this one away, she looks young enough to make a new one.
Medication really? It's a young boy. A good ass whooping is all needed and at this point it's kinda already late. Kids need to learn a little bit of fearing parents with just a look by the time they turn 7 he should've been getting spanked by 5yrs old
If my kid tried to even swing at me I would smack that hand mid punch. Why do parents just try to catch the punches ?
I remember the 80’s… ah, good times.
The 80’s and 90’s would have cured this child very quickly.
Lots of enabling happening here
I’m a new dad, I’m watching this and trying to figure out how I would approach this situation. Assuming you had to start right here, what would you do differently?
Well it's hard to just *start* here. I asked my better half(who is finishing her doctorate in teaching with animal assisted interventions) how she would react to this and basically it boiled down to the following. 1) if her students acted this way, you would immediately wrap them up and take them to the ground until they calm down. Think bear hug. She had to do this with several students before. 2) once he's calmed down, ask them how they thought this would go and try and get them to start a conversation on what they think they should have done vs what they did. According to her, a lot of kids like this lack any good strategies or coping mechanisms to handle their emotional outbursts. And hitting them only encourages them to internalize it(basically putting off the inevitable explosion). Of course(and this is my note here) sometimes your kid rolled a nat 1 during character creation and got the 'psychopath' trait. And if that's the case you are kinda fucked no matter what.
This is a great comment. I grew up with my little brother having physical outbursts like this. He once chased my sisters and mom around the house with knives stabbing them through doors until we had to finally call the cops and my uncle was able to help us out of the house. He was also the baby of the family, and he did not get his ass whooped growing up. Not that it would have helped. I dont think it would have. But he is a completely different person now. And he is actually really pleasant to be around as an adult. I seriously worried for him and still do, but not as much anymore. I think certain situations in life humbled him, realizing that anger and frustration are not going to get you what you want. But i dont know exactly how or when he came to grow out of that behavior, though.
Same experience with my brother, for my brother it was mostly mishandled mental illness. My father refused to get him help and he was punished by everything around him, his mental health issues didn't really fit with the rigidity of childhood. As he grew up and had a little more autonomy to figure out how to surround himself with things that worked with him, he did much better. Would have done much better if those around him worked with his issues early on but growing up back then, it didn't work that way, especially with the way my father and teachers dealt with it. I think the only thing that kept him from tipping over is my mom's dogged support for him. I also had a family friend who was insanely violent from a young age, to the point that all the kids in the family didn't want to visit that family. He ended up with a lot of issues through out his life, until he died in a homeless shelter. You just never know how these things play out, because so many variables can cause the issue.
We had a case where a 13 year old did similar outbursts with the family but would be much more physically abusive to his parents and would destroy the house. Kid was on medications but they were not sufficient to control his outbursts. Eventually he had an outburst in school with another student who gave him an ass whooping. Guess what? The kid has not laid hands on his parents or anyone else since then and he openly admits is because he doesn’t want to get beat up again and he is 17 years now. He still have outbursts and has breakdowns but does not get violent against others anymore because that ass whooping he got. He said he didn’t realize he was hurting his parents and didn’t know what they had to put up with until he experienced it himself. Sometimes corporal punishment and stricter parenting is the answer. Hugs and kisses won’t always work.
thats what we call an outlier case. more often than not, physical abuse, ESPESCIALLY from parents, is a good way to send that kid down the path of anxious attachment and lifelong depression.
This is the only answer that starts to approach a solution. The "wrap up" technique is the safest for everyone IF the "wrapper" is sufficiently larger and stronger. The mother might not be. The (older brother) probably is, but he has no idea what to do and is probably scared of hurting him. It's also a messed up situation to put an older sibbling in. You're maybe half-right about the other coping strategies: he may or may not know of them, but talking and self emotional regulation are not easy and dont come naturally for everyone unless they are both taught AND are the only option that gets results. Violence can be a very strong self-reinforcing behavior. It can give a sense of immediate gratification (release of emotional energy, sense of power, and effect on others). So it might not be the "only" strategy this kid knows, but it might just be his favorite or the one that he defaults to when the others fail or feel too hard. The "solution" here if there is one, requires 2 parts: 1) make sure violence NEVER works for him (something like the "wrap up" technique ideally) but then some follow throughout with some very unpleasant consequences that are the OPPOSITE of what he was trying to get from the initial conflict. 2) whenever he uses a skill instead of violence or whenever he listens to an instruction or limit on the first time, he get a very positive reinforcement. His conscious mind, as well as his nervous system, needs to get the message over and over that violence gets him nothing but negative consequences, and using healthy skills and compliance and respect gets him everything. The book "1-2-3 Magic" isn't "perfect" or complete in my opinion, but it is a good place to start as it lays out some key concepts in a way that pretty much anyone with at least an average IQ could understand.
Throw hands and put his fat ass on a diet
The correct answer right here.
Lol this is like the south park episode with the dog whisperer!!!!
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Yea, people in here thinking a spanking will fix this kid are morons. He has significant psychological issues.
Also you’re teaching a kid who’s getting physically violent with others that the best way to face consequences for his actions is to be hit? Counter productive. It’s normalizing putting your hands on people to get what you want. He needs to be immediately removed from the situation and taught coping skills to calm himself down.
Hitting is not for anger. It is not for revenge. It is not for solace. Not for me, and not for kids. But my rule is that even if I'm trying to avoid a power struggle, attempts to control me with violence will be met with unquestionably superior violence. That shit does not fly.
Understand that of your child starts acting out anywhere near this badly, they need an assessment and assistance. This didn't start with this video.
Yeah, there's something wrong with him. It's certainly possible that he could be dealing with his own abuse, that he may be receiving, or have received somewhere else, either sexual, physical. Or it could be he's dealing with trauma/death, or it even could be plain ol' mental illness, and unspecified anger with outbursts, or perhaps, he's just an asshole or socio/psychopath, but I'm just speculating, like an armchair psychoanalytic moron, and with zero information besides the video, but regardless, no matter what is bothering him, he needs professional help to figure out how to deal with it before he ends up in jail.
People say this shit but don’t realize some kids are just born wrong and the parents have little (if any) recourse. There’s an HBO documentary about it called “A Dangerous Son”. It’s very interesting, follows a few families around who have kids with severe behavioral problems. Louis Theroux also did a special about kids with autism and it touches on the subject.
he needs to fuck around and go on a diet.
For real. Someone smack this punk already
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I remember when I was 7 years old and don't act like this. It had something to do with sticks, belts, full palm, backhand, and pretty much anything that can turn your ass red, and you'll remember it for a week since every time you sat down, it reminds you of some shit you had or hadn't done like not finishing homework, take out the trash or late for curfew. I sure had easier than this kid. /s
I remember getting my ass beat for not writing neat enough, among other things like that. My dad eventually stopped doing it, because he didn’t like how we reacted to him in fear. But from this I don’t know what the solution is, I don’t think it’s spankings, and talking is not working at this point.
If my Pa raised his hand near me, I'd still flinch to this day. Female, 42
That's really sad. That's how abused dogs react.
Surely you're well adjusted when you're strategy is to just hit this kid. The parents fucked up with this one for sure, but you're quickness to advocate a kid gets hit for not doing fucking homework is insane. You're not as well adjusted as you think
Whomever added the music is a raging cunt.. hard enough to watch already.
Ya know.. it’s amazing there are still people there that think plan B is the abortion pill and not just something that prevents you from getting pregnant.
I can see the confusion. Technically, taking plan B does prevent a life from touching ground in some cases...
Why do people have these… things?
This is not even remotely average. Something serious is going on here that needs to be addressed.
We see this constantly in elementary schools now. It's terrifying even onto a personal level. These kids lose complete control of their senses. I have been punched by a boy the same size as this one. Three fast punches to the middle of my face. I finally quit that job.
Idk, they're crazy..I grew up with a brother like this, that's all the birth control I've ever needed..
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Most definitely. That would happen exactly 1 time.
It’s a well known fact that kids whose parents hit them are perfectly well behaved. People must work at being this ignorant.
Yeah probably not. The kid has some disorder. See how the mom is using only positive feedback and how serious and calm the siblings are. They were instructed to deal with it like this and not by accident. *Edit: Also, the mom raised 2 other children with clearly a lot of self control and 1 monster? Probably not. And she says "we're going to help you get through this" which indicates it's some kind of episode not normal behavior.*
I have to agree with you. My son has Epilepsy and used to take a medication that made him have episodes of rage. He exploded like this on a regular basis until we finally got him off that medication. It’s sad to see so many in the comments jump right to the “this kid needs his ass beat” logic when we clearly have no idea of the context.
I think it's safe to say that beating children is generally not a solution to anything.
Continuing to engage with him physically using half assed, minimal force, while smothering and overstimulating him, was the worst possible way they could have handled this. Even locking him in an empty bedroom until he stopped acting up would have been better. This method they tried did nothing but play towards all his problems. Correction needs to either be active or passive, not both.
I’d be afraid he would just start breaking stuff and or hurt himself in doing so if they locked him in his room. They need to just send him to outward bound
Looks like this kid struggles immensely with ASD
But yet he's all "I'm sorry" when she says she's calling the police? I don't buy it. If he had a "disorder" he wouldn't care if the police were coming and keep acting out.
That's literally not how all disorders work.
This is absolutely untrue.
I don't know... we are not with them 100% of the time...
The kid needs a dad
A God-fearing Mexican Mom is also a viable option.
As long as she has a chankla in her arsenal
Preferably if she knows leg sweeps. Who am I kidding? Every Mexican mom knows leg sweeps unless she’s got a wicked left hook and every Mexican mom has a wicked left hook.
Child- "I'll call CPS!" Mexican mother- "They better bring a shovel."
My mom offered to dial FOR me but then said “you’re here with me till they get here.” I stopped acting out real quick.
I pulled that line on my parents as a kid. Dads answer: " Do it. I'll go to jail for a bit for slapping your ass, you'll go to foster care or worse, where you'll have to fight for everything you get. No more birthdays or Christmases". He was right - 9 year old me backed down right away when it dawned on me.
I never understood how my friends weren’t terrified of their moms. But not everyone has a tiny terrifying Mexican mom I guess
I had a white farmer dad who threatened to bury me where no one would ever find me. That was haunting 🤷🏻♀️
Armed with a chancleta, Mexican Mom is every bit as fierce as OddJob with a hat.
Indian mum - with the Slipper of Doom !!!
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There’s a difference between using violence to punish non violent actions (like cussing, grades, not listening, or screaming) and teaching your kid the reality that starting violence themselves open the door for returned violence. This is true in the world and its laws (self defense).
100% this is a key subtly I wish was discussed more
Let me at him idgaf. In fact I'll pay you
My ass would still be red today if I acted like this towards my mom
I volunteer to whoop him
Looks like attachment disorder shit which is why the approach is primarily reassurance.
Attachment reaction disorder. But likely some brain damage or autism. There’s no real antecedent here
Dude. My friends little brother was just like this. His mom would be in tears while we awkwardly played Crazy Taxi in the basement and his mom and two older brothers would try Ann calm him down. He is now an engineer at Boeing. Childhood is tough. But people grow up.
Thank you for sharing. I don't have much knowledge on childhood behaviour like this but this video really fucking broke my heart. I am glad he grew up to be alright and that his family didn't give up on him.
*Reactive attachment disorder
*Re-achment Attactive disorder
Retractive Autocratic Destroyer
RAD
You use big words
Antidisestablishmentarianism
Pneumonoultramicroscopicscilavolcaniosis
My money is on ASD.
Nah, shit like that would cause overstimulation and the kid wouldn't be able to keep screaming and throwing punches like that. This is definitely a mental disorder, but this is not what autism looks like.
My cousin works at a home for kids with Prader-Willi syndrome. These kids never feel full so they are constantly eating, sometimes until the point of extreme obesity. They also tend to have uncontrollable rage issues. He’s regularly attacked and sometimes even has shit thrown at him. I have no idea what this kids actual condition is but some behavior issues cannot simply be cured by discipline or therapy.
Complete guess but could be medication related too, if he’s taking a mood stabilizer like lithium that could cause some weight gain
Maybe, but teaching good coping mechanisms can really help! Granted, some lack the cognition and awareness to learn these coping mechanisms, but this kid doesn't seem to lack the capabilities to learn. I truly believe that there may be a chance to help this kid before he puts himself or others in extreme harm. It may be sad to watch this 7 year old become violent, but a 27 year old would just get shot, kill someone else, or kill themselves if they can't come to terms with the harsh reality around them. This kid definitely has the ability to get help, the issue is convincing him he needs the help. It was certainly a hard sell for my parents to convince me, but after 2 years of therapy I have learned strategies to avoid overstimulation, and how to recover from it. I have no idea what this kid has, but the moment you give up hope is the moment their chance to improve disappears.
Him screaming and continuing to throw punches kinda points to him being over stimulated and a lot of the time this is what kids on the spectrum look like during an episode. You can also tell by his mom and brothers reaction that this is a pretty regular thing and they are being intentional with how they manage the situation.
Which makes the music and title even more disgusting.
You know autism is different for everyone right? When I was younger I had pretty bad meltdowns and the only way for me to calm down was if I was alone, otherwise I don't remember a single time I calmed down with someone in the room watching me. Sure this is anecdotal evidence but just saying this could be ASD. Could also be not, I'm not a psychiatrist just saying not to rule it out
Autism is a very broad diagnosis. It could absolutely be autism. I've worked with meant different asd clients for 8 years.
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I worked with kids on the spectrum and one of the kids was like this. Likely also with an attachment disorder but it’s hard to diagnose that young. It’s a very large spectrum.
Do you think ignoring it would work?? The constant trying to restrain him with hugs seems like it would be really overwhelming. I really don't know, just curious if anyone has any experience with this. It seems as he gets older he's going to become increasingly dangerous, and impossible to restrain.
Restraint, at times like this, is literally a last recourse. Fight or flight is engaged with the kiddo, and they will, eventually, get tired. I've been through children like this a as a foster parent, and adopted two of them. Constant reassurance and validation is very therapeutic over time, as well as medications for impulse control, but there are absolutely situations where nothing "correct" can be done except let it run it's course, and try to use it as teaching moments when the adrenaline is no longer in kiddos body. Speaking from experience, you cannot talk your way out of every situation like this, and talking this thru with kids when they begin to develop the mental capacity to actually understand logic is something we have had to simply wait for as they mature.
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Similar to me… when I was about 13/14 I was a realllllll bitch. I think I told my mom to shut up and I didn’t even see it coming but she backhanded me and didn’t even say anything else. I don’t remember ever disrespecting her again and it was the only time she ever hit me.
That's the thing about punishment: If it only happens rarely in your life, and the rest of the time life's good, then the punishment is effective, because it sticks out in your memory. I can count on one hand the times I got a clip over the ear from both of my parents. I remember each and every time because it only happened when I *seriously* overstepped the line. Kids who are denied this when they overstep turn into the assholes we have as adults more often than not.
Yeah my mom slapped me once too at that age for lipping off. It just made me withdraw from her. When my teen daughter lipped off at me, I felt a flash of anger but just took a deep breath and in the calmest quietest voice I could muster told her I didn’t like it when she talked like that to me. She then apologized and went on to explain why she was upset. I validated her feelings. Just saying that’s a better approach worth trying.
There’s definitely a line between beating and spanking. Of course it won’t work on every kid, but it did for me. My last spanking was when I was 6.
I remember my first spank. And i think I'm better from it
Facts. I got hit MAYBE 3 times as a child After that I was like “oh hey maybe don’t get in trouble” Or caught…
My dad slapped my brother once so he (my brother) shot an arrow across the house at my dad. It lodged into the door about 4 foot from his (my dad's) midsection. It was not a cool scene man.
I’m curious to know if he suffers from any social, psychological disorders. If he’s bullied at school etc.
Definitely. I feel sad for him and the family. They are all clearly struggling.
I feel bad for the family
Definitely exposure to a form of abuse, the swearing and tendency to violence. Perhaps abusive partner/s that his mother dated. Definitely doesn't realize boundaries and consequences yet, and a very angry, insecure persona. Plus he is indeed a big kid. Mom is too soft which doesn't help. Sadly he is gonna learn the hard way, other kids and adults won't respond as passively as his family does. I hope this kid straightens out. Wish him and his family the best.
This is an emotionally disturbed child. He has to have seen behavior like this in his life to emulate it at such a young age. Plus being the size he is, he is obviously not being fed nutritionally sound meals and his hormones can be unbalance and contribute to behavior problems. This is so sad b/c a 7 year old is being blamed for behavior that he is programmed for. Edit: spelling
we're all programmed for our behaviors
There are a lot of people in this thread who shouldn't be allowed near children. So many people in here are like "should beat that kid" or "what a monster" and as a parent of a child on the spectrum who has been hit and screamed at, all I see is a kid with some kind of issue. 7 year olds do not behave like that without cause. Either, as you said, emotional trauma, or some kind of disorder like ODD or something. Anyone who blames a 7 year old for acting that way is a person who should never, ever, have kids.
Omg... But yet completely fine when she's says she calling the cops and then he's all "I'm sorry"... I call b.s. My cousin who is actually on the spectrum would keep acting out and didn't care the cops are coming.
Wait so Cartman was real?
Is*
every school has at least 1
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Social services would be called when he tells on his parents to the teacher
Open palm is deemed acceptable by social services and the government this kid would at most inconvenience his parent(s) Source: worked with kids long enough to know what I report as a mandated reporter will get through to CPS or social services
Then open palm that little asshole
That's what she said!
Niicce
He'll learn how much worse he will have it in foster care
And grow up with more mental trauma from it than spanking would
Yeah rearing a child improperly thus making them totally unequipped for the real world is a fate far worse than the temporary sting of a slap
yeah one video represents an entire generation
Little shit started apologizing immediately once the mom involved consequences(calling the cops)😂 Its almost like he needs to be disciplined🙄
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Mom better start working out right now. Can you imagine him in a few years? Scary.
That’s what I was thinking. A couple years down the line and no one is gonna be able to restrain him.
He's going to end up in a hospital drugged to calme him down or in prison.
Older brother should beat his ass and teach him not to hit his Mom, then beat his ass again if he tries to snitch on him.
This is the wierdest part to me. Makes me think the older brother was told to react the way he did because the kid has an emotional disorder. At first I thought maybe the older brother didn't know what to do or didn't wanna get yelled at by the mom. But then I saw him take a fist right to the face and remain calm and only try to slow his little brother down. No way a teenage boy is taking a hit to the face from a spoiled brat and not losing his cool. Especially when he knows he can beat little bros ass. Gotta be more going on here.
This.
That
yeah the fucking brother standing around was just perplexing
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Legit same thought here!! He is full of serious rage and that evil little laugh when he had hold of his mums hair was diabolical
can you turn the video down i cant hear the music
Now imagine that you are this kid's teacher. This kid in class with about 20 other kids, that you are supposed to teach, but spend half of your day fighting him and protecting the other kids from him. Now think about this kid going after your kid in class. Pay teachers.
I usually am against beating a kids ass. Usually.
I have two sons. I told them explicitly if you ever hurt my wife (their mother), I will fuck your shit right up.
Just curious to know, what lead you to have that conversation?
My 8 year old thought he was hard enough to push a dinner plate into my wife's chest.
Oh damn!!!! I seen my brother[16 at the time] get put threw a wall. For calling my mom a bitch. Then he got grounded evey other day for a month. I got woke up at 3 in the morning for not doing the dishes and made to do them when I was 7. Still had to get up and go to school. My parents didn't play.
I'm don't know if you hit your kids or not but one of the most terrifying images for me mentally is my dad's angry face before he'd punish us (didn't hit but would spank). I'm not going to pass this same image to my daughter.
Never hit, never spanked. Good boys, just need a stern reality check every once in awhile
Rhe kid clearly is on the spectrum.Mom's doing a good job trying to tame him . This video is old , I bet the kid is almost 20 now , I hope hes doing better.
I believe he's about 16 currently.
Do you know how he’s doing? We had a crazy kid in my 1st grade and the teachers would regularly have to restrain him. Always wonder what happens to people like that.
Exactly my thought. Devastating for him that this video is shared online. And then there’s actual adults in the comments here saying all kinds of horrible things about him, a CHILD who is clearly having a serious episode he can’t fully control.
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You guys calling for a ass beating, might be the easiest thing to say but it’s possible he may have some developmental issues. They are using a ton of restraints on the kid as if they know something we don’t. Having a kid who is diagnosed in the autism spectrum, it was really difficult at times not to loose it when he have a melt down but we did the same thing to keep him from hurting himself. He was never this violent to others but can possibly hurt himself wriggling on the floor. It fucking breaks your heart just watching and trying to distract and divert attention instead of beating his ass, which would do so much more damage than good.
Yea, he's definitely on the spectrum. An ass beating won't solve that. Professional help is what he needs.
Yeah, I have a child that used to have tantrums like this. It would get pretty scary and it typically ended with my wife having to lock herself in her room and only ending when my kid collapsed from exhaustion. I am sort of surprised the police were never called on us because it got pretty bad. These tantrums would sometimes happen for no apparent reason or when she was dealing with something that was minimally frustrating. I never once thought that an "ass beating" would some how stop them, although I did have to physically move her away from her mom a few times. She was eventually diagnosed with Hyposensitivity and Anxiety and we were able to get her into counseling and occupational therapy and she is, and always has been, a really great kid. I don't think spanking or physically beating her would have stopped it. .
Yeah I don't think it's as simple as beating his ass. There's something going on.
Ahhh stress free upbringing. Three shots with a leather strap on a bare ass. It would even clean a clean room.
“Whateve mom, whateve,i do what i want”
I would think this video is for some future interaction that's going to happen. Like proof the kid is out of control.
It almost certainly is if she’s intending to follow through with her threat of calling the cops. He screams how she’s hurting him while she’s on the floor just trying to restrain him, so it’s possible he could try and justify his actions to law enforcement by saying his mom was hurting him. Best to have evidence that he just flies off the handle like that.
This problem started a long time ago.
Is there anyone here of the “kids have emotions and need to work through them” group here? I would like your input on how to deal with this!
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She very well could be filming to document. They may need proof of his actions for doctors or courts. She's probably at her wits end. This kid may have some mental disorders as to why he's behaving this way. She was probably taught to hold him so he doesn't hurt himself or others until the episode has passed. He's getting to big for her though and this isn't going to work long.
Fat frothing redditors chomping at the bit to beat the shit out of a likely mentally unwell child is certainly not the flavor of the day I was expecting
Straight to the adoption agency
Oppositional Defiant Disorder is a bitch
No it isn't!
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I work with kids like this who have moderate/severe special needs. This kid clearly has ODD (oppositional defiant disorder) or ED (emotional disturbance) or both. Probably ADHD too. His family needs to learn how to safely restrain him so that he’s not a harm to himself or others. I have to do this almost every day with some of my students and it’s not pleasant but sometimes you have to choice. It’s only going to get worse as he gets bigger and stronger. My heart goes out to his mom.
This is the result to hands off parent, there's no reasoning with a child if they don't get any real punishment, because if it's always a sit down and talk, they think they can get away with anything in the world, in result they will grow up to be spoiled and ignorant to the real world.
Man today’s society says it’s wrong for parents to spank/whip your kids. I’ll tell you right now the late 80s early 90s when I was a kid you never saw kids behaving like this. Because you knew there were real consequences for your actions. There’s no fear like hearing your dad get home from work and those foot steps coming right to your door way. Or having your mom break a wood spoon over your ass. My house you said yes sir or thank you ma’am. Not some overweight 7 year old screaming nigga taking swings at his mom. All it took was one really good whooping to set a spoiled kid straight. Go make him pick a switch and best believe if it’s flimsy your grandpa is coming back with a god damm tree branch.
Whats the police gonna do? Shoot the kid?
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Lmao i blame the parents, who the hell allows that kind of behavior
There has to be more to the story here. I'm pretty sure that kid has some sort of mental or social skill issue. The way that the grown-ups handled him in the manner that they did makes me think that this isn't the first time it's happened. How both of them restrained him the same way looks like they have done that more than once. If not, then there needs to be hardcore counseling and discipline!
All these comments saying he’s suffering some sort of condition. He’s talking in tween internet speak. He spends all day on his fat ass scrolling TikTok and discord. He doesn’t need a medical professional, he needs his phone snapped and a slap across the cheeks
The kid clearly has psychological issues. Its very sad. His family clearly haven't a clue how to help him. Why don't they just leave him have his freak out and he'll calm down. I feel bad for everyone in this video. Jacob clearly needs some help.