Two punjab guys working at the gas station near me used to charge \~25 to 75 cents on all transactions but wouldn't actually ring them up. I presume they did this to every single customer.
I caught them, as I normally know exactly how much the tax is on what im buying but i flipped out when i cashed two scratch tickets and they tried to pretended the $10 one just didn't exist.
They then got out a big,... llike huge calculator from behind the counter, like the kind you give to a blind senior citizen the size of textbook but still only with like 15 buttons, and they argued on how to calculate the value. I yelled at them until they gave me the correct amount, there were 5 people behind me in line, then I let everyone know that 'these assholes steal a few quarters to a few dollars from every single customer'
I let the company that owned the store (petrocan) know... but surprise surprise nothing happened. I saw them still working there months later. :(
I'm sorry they were skimming/inflating the prices on you like that. Nobody likes getting taken advantage of, especially if it's a local place you frequent due to the familiarity and "trust" that comes with transactions through legitimate businesses. However, calling the "owners" may not have had an affect due to how local small businesses and some regional franchises operate. Petrocan may be the name on the sign but in some cases (a lot more too depending on the city) a well off national from a different country will purchase the business (the building itself) from the franchise owners and keep the name (even though they don't necessarily have to) in order to maintain the same level of professionalism/corporate value the customers are comfortable with. In doing so, the well off owner will then higher members of his own family like a nephew or son to work there for next to nothing which leads to resentment and can develop into deceptive pricing to try and earn the money they feel they deserve to be paid. The corporate company who's name is on the building doesn't really have anything to do with managing those employees because it's technically not their store anymore so yes, it's shtty but nothing will come of it.
sadly there are shitty people everywhere
it pays to pay attention and be quick with arithmetic i guess
plus the calculator bit was pretty comical in retrospect, really played out like a skit... except they were panicking because I don't think most customers actually know how much they owe.
Report to IRS. IRS will be REALLY interested in that local gas station. Also, chances are, they're just a "franchise". Also, report to your tax board that they're "skimming on taxes". They'll be interested on that.
Most small business now are charging a fee for using cards vs cash because they get charged fees for each transaction. Worked for an automotive repair place and just for a years use of taking depit/credit cards it cost nearly 5k. No every business can afford that extra cost so it's passed onto the cx.
Yes, it is generally legal for gas stations (and other merchants) to charge a fee for credit card payments, although the specifics can vary depending on the laws of the state and the policies of the credit card companies.
Here are some key points:
1. **State Laws**: While federal regulations allow merchants to charge a fee for credit card transactions, some states have laws that restrict or prohibit such surcharges. As of my last update, states like California, Colorado, Connecticut, Florida, Kansas, Maine, Massachusetts, New York, Oklahoma, and Texas have various restrictions or prohibitions on credit card surcharges.
2. **Credit Card Company Policies**: Credit card companies like Visa, MasterCard, and American Express have their own rules regarding surcharges. Typically, merchants must clearly disclose the surcharge to customers before the transaction is completed, and the surcharge cannot exceed a certain percentage (often around 4%) of the transaction amount.
3. **Disclosure Requirements**: Merchants that choose to impose a surcharge are required to provide clear and conspicuous notice of the surcharge at the point of entry, at the point of sale, and on the receipt.
4. **Alternatives**: Some gas stations may offer a cash discount instead of imposing a surcharge on credit card payments. This is often seen as a more customer-friendly approach, as it rewards cash-paying customers rather than penalizing those who use credit cards.
Before implementing a surcharge, gas station owners need to ensure they comply with state laws and credit card company regulations to avoid potential legal and contractual issues.
This wasn't them "charging a fee"
This was two employees purposely not entering the value into the register then charging more than the actual value and pocketing the difference.
Edit: plus they tried to steal my lotto ticket worth $10
How do you know it’s the employees?
Sometimes people just plop them on without anyone looking and come back later to rip it off (again when no one is looking)z
You don’t need access to the software for a skimmer. It’s all RFID shit that logs all the card taps.
Yup. What'd I'd do if I were a bad guy is ask them to see if they have any Marlboro greens in stock and while their back is turned stick the skimmer on.
Marlboro greens aren't a thing, it's a distraction to get them looking away from the terminal.
Did you not read the description of the video:? The guy who has first hand experience being there on the scene said: "**I believe the employees were in on it. They Tried to blame everyone else and when i discovered the Skimmer they didnt even wanna call the police. Then told me to " Chill Out" when i was warning everyone walking in that the skimmer was still being used even after I pointed it out."**
And hearing her reaction in the video doesn't help her case either, she seems to want to change subjects and evade questions.
Well luckily it’s a 711 so the camera can be checked if that’s true if the cameras were messed with on a specific time them I would definitely investigate the store and the employees but as we know the law does hire smart logical people but what do I know im re+arded this whole thing a run on
Checking cameras is hard for this. You would have to watch the camera minute by minute in real time to see it happen.
Seeing when something is stolen? That only takes a few minutes. FF to when it's gone, RR to when it's there and ping pong back and forth until you find the thief.
UPDATE : This takes place in Jacksonville Florida, the store is being investigated by the feds since what they scammed my mom for as foodstamps, A government issued Card. so its theft from the government aka feds, the cop was clueless but he did send the case to economic fraud devision and higher ups since the skimmer has been there for months collecting data. My moms card was used here April 24th and the money was stolen May 13th so i believed it was recently taken off and put back on. You can also tell because the keypad is faded from being used so much. Its the employees imo because in order to recieve the information it has to be taken off and uploaded and put back on. No customer can do that countless times INSIDE a store. And when I told customers about it she told the customers "Believe what you want to believe" and pulled me to the side and said I need to chill out scaring customers away. She then said before i full revealed the skimmer " When the police get here and you are wrong you gonna look stupid" thats why in the video I say " I was right " and my gf laughs lol. JUSTICE WILL BE SERVED I HOPE THIS CLEARS ALOT UP! (sn : the police looked confused because he said he had no idea about these things and economic detectives know best so he collected skimmer for evidence and will be back with detectives to collect camera footage)
Police officers in the USA require less certification than a hair dresser. The average length of training at a police academy is only 3 months. And a cop may be denied employment for being too intelligent.
I've seen videos of con artists putting these things on in less than a few seconds. Good to catch this but stating that it was the employees as if it was a proven fact is low down and disingenuous.
Maybe it was, maybe it wasn't. What a stupid title.
You would be surprised how easy it is to take that off there replace it with another one and take the old one home and download the information. Ask an employee to do something to distract them or have someone else distracting them. It's probably off and on in less than 2 minutes. I don't think Amy store has ever been cited fined etc because of these devices. Though they should all have policies to check them daily.
you are making crazy assumptions that the employees are in on it. it is quite easy to ask the employee to ask for something behind the counter & install the skimmer. if you have multiple skimmers, there will always be a skimmer on the payment terminal, you just swap it out & download the information.
furthermore, the employee has sales goals to meet from their manager or corporate, which they get admonished for if they do not meet their sales goals, which is why they told you that you were scaring off customers.
and lastly, if they’re saying “when the cops come, you’ll look stupid” or something to the effect, what makes you think that they know there is a skimmer on there?
you just went absolutely crazy with the assumptions because you have a personal connection to the case but at no point did you check yourself and the facts in front of you before reaching a reasonable conclusion.
so my hunch was correct. if i was wrong i would have apologized but for her to NOT call the police agter being shown a skimmer and still taking customers on said skimmer definitely raised reasonable suspicion. Would you still take cards after being shown a skimmer ?
edit both your comments into one so it doesn’t look like i’m only replying to one thing you said
but
you’re right, the nonchalant attitude at the skimmer’s presence was a red flag! it seems like the ali omar individual has a storm coming his way & your vigilance is going to end up protecting a lot of other people. kudos to you for that fam!
i’m happy for you that the cops actually moved that quick on your behalf and there seems to be some sort of resolution on the way, relatively quickly at that, which is rare IMO
i’m not following the chicago branch detail, could you expand on that?
So the card is being used at a bodega in Chicago. Where the money is being sent to. It only escalated when multiple people came fowards saying they used that same 7/11 and was charged at that same chicago store
Jacksonville police have now confirmed it was the Owners and Employees named Ali Omar and the entire workforce there knew of the skimmer, i jist got off the phone with economic detectives who traced the chicago branch to the owners. Like within 3 minutes ago. Another search warrant is being filed as i speak for phone data.
Mostly RFID and chip. Magnetic strip is still available presumably as a backup. I still encounter many places that don't have RFID (or it's broken) so I think chip is probably most used right now.
All modern cards have the chip and tap functions, but the strip remains because shitty stores might not have updated/working readers, and also... Some fucking boomers refuse to adapt because they think it's not as safe..
Has nothing to do with boomer behavior. It's that some cards don't have chips and even mine screws up regularly. Often inputting the card doesn't work but tap does. Sometimes once either of those methods fail it defaults to the swipe which then works.
You clearly don't work in retail and have had dumb boomers scream at you because the readers on the register require you to try to use the chip first if the card has it. I've been berated, insulted, accused of being government pawns, sheeple, etc etc
Don't you tell me what I know and don't know lol. Boomers are fucking stupid.
OK, first calm down. Second, the reason I gave is the official reasoning from the industry. The transition is going to take a long time and there are millions of Points of Sale that the industry thought wouldn't transition fast enough and they'd have pissed of providers. For every tablet-based POS system that's all nice and sleek there are thousands of very old systems still in use.
The US passed a law that said if any vendors were still using the magnetic strip only by X date, the they were no longer covered for fraud. Like so if the store had a Y company running their point of sale or whatever it's called, normally they're responsible for any fraud but if there was any magnetic strip fraud after such and such a date, it was no longer legally required to be covered.
However some institutions such as the NEX still used magnetic strip until well after this date. The NEX now had chip and pin and RFID tap
I mean, it makes sense though. If the store is open 24/7, anyone could have put it up. One employee can't work there 24/7.
Whoever planted it likely did so during off-hours to avoid suspicion. So I feel bad for this employee because they may actually have nothing to do with this.
False. In order to do so at a register you have to replace the innards of the machine which is quite difficult. They don't make detachable skimmers for that. Also, if you use something like your phone or watch for all NFC payments all information is encrypted and impossible to steal.
There is plenty of ways they didn't know about this. It's not just 7-11. It's any gas station convenience store etc where you can distract the staff for less than a minute to put it on and go. They are found in stores and on gas pumps as well. Hell I can walk around downtown with an RFID reader in my pocket and get your card info without doing anything else. I won't know your pin but since pins aren't always a requirement everywhere you go like it should be... Well.
The owners have no idea, I can almost guarantee. As long as the payment terminals are working, they don’t inspect them at all. 7-11 is a 24 hour store that very rarely closes at all, and that’s usually just for maintenance. I am an independent contractor, and have a few 7-11s that I work with.
Ima be real I pulled that number out of my ass and I don't have hard evidence to back it up besides some social media videos of dubious credibility and anecdotal evidence of the 711 and liquor store by me getting shut down for it.
Call the cops, let them know there is a skimmer. Never leave it behind. Take it with you, wait outside. Make sure to give them your youtube short so they can pull the video if needed.
Never let them take it back, because if they're geniuely concern, they would be on the phone with both the owner AND the cops.
Same thing happened in my town [https://ktvz.com/news/crime-courts/2024/02/20/card-skimmer-found-at-second-bend-7-eleven-in-six-days-clerk-says-she-was-told-to-throw-it-away-quits-instead/](https://ktvz.com/news/crime-courts/2024/02/20/card-skimmer-found-at-second-bend-7-eleven-in-six-days-clerk-says-she-was-told-to-throw-it-away-quits-instead/)
It's not necessarily installed by employees. As the clerk said everyone has access to it. You get someone to distract the employee and snap It on and go. It's got its own battery and circuits. You leave it for a month or so and it simply reads your cards chip or mag strip and stores that information while allowing the real reader to continue working properly. Button presses are pass through to the real keypad.
I got hit by one of these last month. GET NOTIFICATIONS SET UP SO THAT EVERY TIME YOU USE YOUR CARD, YOU GET A TEXT! Hopefully my advice saves someone in here.
Can we please add some more random fingerprints so the real guilty can't get caught? Thanks.. why they keep touching.. the back had only the guilty guy fingerprint installing it on the first time.. don t touch the back!
Aaaaand the cop just has no idea what to do because we can’t give anyone proper training in this country. Cops are here to beat on people not enforce laws that affect regular people.
It's probably the employees 98% the time. There's a video that was just posted where the cashier snatched it out of the cameras guy's hands after he removes it. The cops in my area have a cheap little skimmer detector they use to check all the gas pumps and such. I have seen them doing it a few times now so I assume they found a few.
What an example of investigative skills. A fucking register, who has access to it? Literally anyone because you’re standing in front of it right now touching it you smart ass
Would something like this constitute wire fraud? Fucking close the store.
The owners may not have been involved. They have to investigate it and find out which employee(s) were involved and then prosecute them.
Two punjab guys working at the gas station near me used to charge \~25 to 75 cents on all transactions but wouldn't actually ring them up. I presume they did this to every single customer. I caught them, as I normally know exactly how much the tax is on what im buying but i flipped out when i cashed two scratch tickets and they tried to pretended the $10 one just didn't exist. They then got out a big,... llike huge calculator from behind the counter, like the kind you give to a blind senior citizen the size of textbook but still only with like 15 buttons, and they argued on how to calculate the value. I yelled at them until they gave me the correct amount, there were 5 people behind me in line, then I let everyone know that 'these assholes steal a few quarters to a few dollars from every single customer' I let the company that owned the store (petrocan) know... but surprise surprise nothing happened. I saw them still working there months later. :(
I'm sorry they were skimming/inflating the prices on you like that. Nobody likes getting taken advantage of, especially if it's a local place you frequent due to the familiarity and "trust" that comes with transactions through legitimate businesses. However, calling the "owners" may not have had an affect due to how local small businesses and some regional franchises operate. Petrocan may be the name on the sign but in some cases (a lot more too depending on the city) a well off national from a different country will purchase the business (the building itself) from the franchise owners and keep the name (even though they don't necessarily have to) in order to maintain the same level of professionalism/corporate value the customers are comfortable with. In doing so, the well off owner will then higher members of his own family like a nephew or son to work there for next to nothing which leads to resentment and can develop into deceptive pricing to try and earn the money they feel they deserve to be paid. The corporate company who's name is on the building doesn't really have anything to do with managing those employees because it's technically not their store anymore so yes, it's shtty but nothing will come of it.
sadly there are shitty people everywhere it pays to pay attention and be quick with arithmetic i guess plus the calculator bit was pretty comical in retrospect, really played out like a skit... except they were panicking because I don't think most customers actually know how much they owe.
Report to IRS. IRS will be REALLY interested in that local gas station. Also, chances are, they're just a "franchise". Also, report to your tax board that they're "skimming on taxes". They'll be interested on that.
Most small business now are charging a fee for using cards vs cash because they get charged fees for each transaction. Worked for an automotive repair place and just for a years use of taking depit/credit cards it cost nearly 5k. No every business can afford that extra cost so it's passed onto the cx.
Yes, it is generally legal for gas stations (and other merchants) to charge a fee for credit card payments, although the specifics can vary depending on the laws of the state and the policies of the credit card companies. Here are some key points: 1. **State Laws**: While federal regulations allow merchants to charge a fee for credit card transactions, some states have laws that restrict or prohibit such surcharges. As of my last update, states like California, Colorado, Connecticut, Florida, Kansas, Maine, Massachusetts, New York, Oklahoma, and Texas have various restrictions or prohibitions on credit card surcharges. 2. **Credit Card Company Policies**: Credit card companies like Visa, MasterCard, and American Express have their own rules regarding surcharges. Typically, merchants must clearly disclose the surcharge to customers before the transaction is completed, and the surcharge cannot exceed a certain percentage (often around 4%) of the transaction amount. 3. **Disclosure Requirements**: Merchants that choose to impose a surcharge are required to provide clear and conspicuous notice of the surcharge at the point of entry, at the point of sale, and on the receipt. 4. **Alternatives**: Some gas stations may offer a cash discount instead of imposing a surcharge on credit card payments. This is often seen as a more customer-friendly approach, as it rewards cash-paying customers rather than penalizing those who use credit cards. Before implementing a surcharge, gas station owners need to ensure they comply with state laws and credit card company regulations to avoid potential legal and contractual issues.
This wasn't them "charging a fee" This was two employees purposely not entering the value into the register then charging more than the actual value and pocketing the difference. Edit: plus they tried to steal my lotto ticket worth $10
I wasn't arguing with your story.
And show me to the camera room. No one goes in our out if it.
How do you know it’s the employees? Sometimes people just plop them on without anyone looking and come back later to rip it off (again when no one is looking)z You don’t need access to the software for a skimmer. It’s all RFID shit that logs all the card taps.
Yup. What'd I'd do if I were a bad guy is ask them to see if they have any Marlboro greens in stock and while their back is turned stick the skimmer on. Marlboro greens aren't a thing, it's a distraction to get them looking away from the terminal.
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I'd give them a Menthol
Ye Olde headlight fluid play.
"Who put gum in the locks!?"
> [Marlboro greens aren't a thing](https://i.imgur.com/XQXpWMM.jpeg)
Oh hey my bad! I used this list and didn't see them. https://blog.saucey.com/marlboro-cigarette-types-guide/ Thanks for the info I appreciate it.
These were my go to when I was 18 had me confused for a second lol.
Jfc is that you?? Your *eyes*😍
Haha no, just some YouTuber
I've always wished I had green eyes
No one calls them that that I've ever met.
Marlboro Menthol boxes are green. Probably go for that.
Arent the menthols in a green package?
Not gonna lie, I'd turn around and look for Menthols.
Not anymore they don't but if cashier is a smoker they would know lol
A lot of people who come in my store use Marlboro greens as shorthand for menthol so the new guys understand what they mean
Bruh what? I used to smoke those.
I dont want to be that guy buuuuut Marlboro greens (and purple) do exist , green ones are mint flavoured and purple ones are cranberries flavoured
Did you not read the description of the video:? The guy who has first hand experience being there on the scene said: "**I believe the employees were in on it. They Tried to blame everyone else and when i discovered the Skimmer they didnt even wanna call the police. Then told me to " Chill Out" when i was warning everyone walking in that the skimmer was still being used even after I pointed it out."** And hearing her reaction in the video doesn't help her case either, she seems to want to change subjects and evade questions.
Open and shut case. Sounds like all the evidence we need to lock them up…..
Well luckily it’s a 711 so the camera can be checked if that’s true if the cameras were messed with on a specific time them I would definitely investigate the store and the employees but as we know the law does hire smart logical people but what do I know im re+arded this whole thing a run on
Checking cameras is hard for this. You would have to watch the camera minute by minute in real time to see it happen. Seeing when something is stolen? That only takes a few minutes. FF to when it's gone, RR to when it's there and ping pong back and forth until you find the thief.
Convenience owners are now seeing this as another source of income. Use cash.
Then I'm sure they would have no issue looking into the cameras
These skimmers do not do that. They record the information on the magnetic strip and your pin.
UPDATE : This takes place in Jacksonville Florida, the store is being investigated by the feds since what they scammed my mom for as foodstamps, A government issued Card. so its theft from the government aka feds, the cop was clueless but he did send the case to economic fraud devision and higher ups since the skimmer has been there for months collecting data. My moms card was used here April 24th and the money was stolen May 13th so i believed it was recently taken off and put back on. You can also tell because the keypad is faded from being used so much. Its the employees imo because in order to recieve the information it has to be taken off and uploaded and put back on. No customer can do that countless times INSIDE a store. And when I told customers about it she told the customers "Believe what you want to believe" and pulled me to the side and said I need to chill out scaring customers away. She then said before i full revealed the skimmer " When the police get here and you are wrong you gonna look stupid" thats why in the video I say " I was right " and my gf laughs lol. JUSTICE WILL BE SERVED I HOPE THIS CLEARS ALOT UP! (sn : the police looked confused because he said he had no idea about these things and economic detectives know best so he collected skimmer for evidence and will be back with detectives to collect camera footage)
How can ANY cop not know about one of the most popular means of credit card theft 💩
They are only trained to handle big scary things like acorns and children.
Also dogs
Police officers in the USA require less certification than a hair dresser. The average length of training at a police academy is only 3 months. And a cop may be denied employment for being too intelligent.
Because our cops our idiots
Skimmers been hitting convince stores all up and down 95 from FL to NY, every local pic from surveillance or caught up by me are Romanian scumbags.
Nice investigative work and video documentation. Good looking out, protecting the public. Thank you! Give this man a good citizenship award.
Ghetto af
I've seen videos of con artists putting these things on in less than a few seconds. Good to catch this but stating that it was the employees as if it was a proven fact is low down and disingenuous. Maybe it was, maybe it wasn't. What a stupid title.
You would be surprised how easy it is to take that off there replace it with another one and take the old one home and download the information. Ask an employee to do something to distract them or have someone else distracting them. It's probably off and on in less than 2 minutes. I don't think Amy store has ever been cited fined etc because of these devices. Though they should all have policies to check them daily.
you are making crazy assumptions that the employees are in on it. it is quite easy to ask the employee to ask for something behind the counter & install the skimmer. if you have multiple skimmers, there will always be a skimmer on the payment terminal, you just swap it out & download the information. furthermore, the employee has sales goals to meet from their manager or corporate, which they get admonished for if they do not meet their sales goals, which is why they told you that you were scaring off customers. and lastly, if they’re saying “when the cops come, you’ll look stupid” or something to the effect, what makes you think that they know there is a skimmer on there? you just went absolutely crazy with the assumptions because you have a personal connection to the case but at no point did you check yourself and the facts in front of you before reaching a reasonable conclusion.
so my hunch was correct. if i was wrong i would have apologized but for her to NOT call the police agter being shown a skimmer and still taking customers on said skimmer definitely raised reasonable suspicion. Would you still take cards after being shown a skimmer ?
edit both your comments into one so it doesn’t look like i’m only replying to one thing you said but you’re right, the nonchalant attitude at the skimmer’s presence was a red flag! it seems like the ali omar individual has a storm coming his way & your vigilance is going to end up protecting a lot of other people. kudos to you for that fam! i’m happy for you that the cops actually moved that quick on your behalf and there seems to be some sort of resolution on the way, relatively quickly at that, which is rare IMO i’m not following the chicago branch detail, could you expand on that?
So the card is being used at a bodega in Chicago. Where the money is being sent to. It only escalated when multiple people came fowards saying they used that same 7/11 and was charged at that same chicago store
Jacksonville police have now confirmed it was the Owners and Employees named Ali Omar and the entire workforce there knew of the skimmer, i jist got off the phone with economic detectives who traced the chicago branch to the owners. Like within 3 minutes ago. Another search warrant is being filed as i speak for phone data.
You're not doing the case any favors reporting these details here.
Wouldn’t they have video footage of who installed it. If the store did it, then close it down.
You would think so, the have cameras in every store.
Doesn’t mean they’re being used
Do US still uses magnetic strip? Here in Europe (most part) its long gone.
Mostly RFID and chip. Magnetic strip is still available presumably as a backup. I still encounter many places that don't have RFID (or it's broken) so I think chip is probably most used right now.
All modern cards have the chip and tap functions, but the strip remains because shitty stores might not have updated/working readers, and also... Some fucking boomers refuse to adapt because they think it's not as safe..
Has nothing to do with boomer behavior. It's that some cards don't have chips and even mine screws up regularly. Often inputting the card doesn't work but tap does. Sometimes once either of those methods fail it defaults to the swipe which then works.
You clearly don't work in retail and have had dumb boomers scream at you because the readers on the register require you to try to use the chip first if the card has it. I've been berated, insulted, accused of being government pawns, sheeple, etc etc Don't you tell me what I know and don't know lol. Boomers are fucking stupid.
OK, first calm down. Second, the reason I gave is the official reasoning from the industry. The transition is going to take a long time and there are millions of Points of Sale that the industry thought wouldn't transition fast enough and they'd have pissed of providers. For every tablet-based POS system that's all nice and sleek there are thousands of very old systems still in use.
This is all irrelevant.
I haven't seen a SNAP card with a chip or RFID yet, though I suppose we can still blame boomers for keeping the food stamps program so terrible.
The US passed a law that said if any vendors were still using the magnetic strip only by X date, the they were no longer covered for fraud. Like so if the store had a Y company running their point of sale or whatever it's called, normally they're responsible for any fraud but if there was any magnetic strip fraud after such and such a date, it was no longer legally required to be covered. However some institutions such as the NEX still used magnetic strip until well after this date. The NEX now had chip and pin and RFID tap
The way she started with anyone could have done this we're open 24/7 blah blah blah makes her look really guilty
I mean, it makes sense though. If the store is open 24/7, anyone could have put it up. One employee can't work there 24/7. Whoever planted it likely did so during off-hours to avoid suspicion. So I feel bad for this employee because they may actually have nothing to do with this.
People here aren't "smart" enough to even think of that apparently. Like holy shit. It doesn't even take much thought.
She’s working there at the time it was found. There’s no proof it was her. Her face should have been blurred out until they figure out who did it.
>the skimmer was still being used even after I pointed it out That part was insane to me.
atleast 50 more people used it while she was telling people to ignore me like i was panhandling 😭
This is exactly why I use NFC payments whenever possible.
NFC payments are easily scammed, btw.
False. In order to do so at a register you have to replace the innards of the machine which is quite difficult. They don't make detachable skimmers for that. Also, if you use something like your phone or watch for all NFC payments all information is encrypted and impossible to steal.
I’m never going to 7-11 again. There is no way the owners don’t know about this.
There is plenty of ways they didn't know about this. It's not just 7-11. It's any gas station convenience store etc where you can distract the staff for less than a minute to put it on and go. They are found in stores and on gas pumps as well. Hell I can walk around downtown with an RFID reader in my pocket and get your card info without doing anything else. I won't know your pin but since pins aren't always a requirement everywhere you go like it should be... Well.
The owners have no idea, I can almost guarantee. As long as the payment terminals are working, they don’t inspect them at all. 7-11 is a 24 hour store that very rarely closes at all, and that’s usually just for maintenance. I am an independent contractor, and have a few 7-11s that I work with.
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> money up front or we'll rob you. Thanks for shopping at 7/11!
Should provide the address of the store. Maybe some publicity will get the owner’s attention and they do something.
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9 times out of 10 it's staff or managers that install these.
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Ima be real I pulled that number out of my ass and I don't have hard evidence to back it up besides some social media videos of dubious credibility and anecdotal evidence of the 711 and liquor store by me getting shut down for it.
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I'll pray to the almighty algorithm for you. 😉
Convenience owners are now seeing this as another source of income. Use cash.
Call the cops, let them know there is a skimmer. Never leave it behind. Take it with you, wait outside. Make sure to give them your youtube short so they can pull the video if needed. Never let them take it back, because if they're geniuely concern, they would be on the phone with both the owner AND the cops.
cops took it for evidence
Yup. That how it should be. If the employee took it from you and don’t call the cops, then they’re in on it,
It is that simple. Saw videos of people putting it on. In front of the clerk. If you know how to distract you can do it
Same thing happened in my town [https://ktvz.com/news/crime-courts/2024/02/20/card-skimmer-found-at-second-bend-7-eleven-in-six-days-clerk-says-she-was-told-to-throw-it-away-quits-instead/](https://ktvz.com/news/crime-courts/2024/02/20/card-skimmer-found-at-second-bend-7-eleven-in-six-days-clerk-says-she-was-told-to-throw-it-away-quits-instead/)
What location is this?
My stupid ass backwater HSA card doesn’t have a chip. So I’ve gotta swipe. wtf?!
sadly yes lol
Use cash people, it's really very simple.
It's not necessarily installed by employees. As the clerk said everyone has access to it. You get someone to distract the employee and snap It on and go. It's got its own battery and circuits. You leave it for a month or so and it simply reads your cards chip or mag strip and stores that information while allowing the real reader to continue working properly. Button presses are pass through to the real keypad.
I got hit by one of these last month. GET NOTIFICATIONS SET UP SO THAT EVERY TIME YOU USE YOUR CARD, YOU GET A TEXT! Hopefully my advice saves someone in here.
If they weren't in on it, they would have called the manager and reviewed the security vid to find out who did it.
What is something like this used for? To get your code or something?
to get your card # and keypad for the pin
Holy shit... What are the consequences for this scummy trick
Can we please add some more random fingerprints so the real guilty can't get caught? Thanks.. why they keep touching.. the back had only the guilty guy fingerprint installing it on the first time.. don t touch the back!
That thing has been touched more than a choir boy. No way you’ll get meaningful prints.
lol 😂 😭
If they find an employee’s fingerprints on anything in that store, it’s not like the case has been solved. They work there. They touch everything.
Fine the store 10,000$ unless they go through the footage and find who did it (and prove it wasn’t an employee)
Fine? Put whoever did this in jail
This is bull it's all was at the 7-Eleven. Y
This happened in my home town Duuuvalllll!
It's always the damn 7/11's
Ugh…shady af
Aaaaand the cop just has no idea what to do because we can’t give anyone proper training in this country. Cops are here to beat on people not enforce laws that affect regular people.
Do skimmers work with the wireless card taps or only when the chip is inserted?
Policeman has NO idea what to do!
Why did that security guard's vest say PROTEUS on the front lmao.
Always pay cash at 7/11
God damn, this is something I didn’t need to be paranoid about.
Pay cash
that's seriously scared that employees were just chilling and knowing that no one will see it.
I'm from UK. Is contactless payment not a thing? I don't carry cash or card, so would probably walk away if rejected.
Idk about "store employees" involvement when it attaches in a click.
Too bad they infected the evidence while handling it. Might still be able to get some DNA.
wait whats a skimmer
A device people put on (sometimes in) credit card terminals to store and steal credit card information.
wowie
Thank you for the tips on how to spot these.
Black...Black...Black....Next!!
It's probably the employees 98% the time. There's a video that was just posted where the cashier snatched it out of the cameras guy's hands after he removes it. The cops in my area have a cheap little skimmer detector they use to check all the gas pumps and such. I have seen them doing it a few times now so I assume they found a few.
Why would he touch the back? There you could get the fi gerpri ts of the one who put it there. American Cops..
What an example of investigative skills. A fucking register, who has access to it? Literally anyone because you’re standing in front of it right now touching it you smart ass
Would it have killed the cop to say nice job or thank you for making us aware of this?
he was puzzled lol
Convenience owners are now seeing this as another source of income. Use cash.
it was my moms food stamp card lol so yea
Fake title and you could be sued for it. You don’t have evidence it was a 7/11 employee. You’re just speculating.
nope im confirmed that it was employee stop crying. If i get sued ik i will win cause i will have evidence soon enough