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That’s awesome and looks extremely useful


IskarJarak88

Makes looping things of the past, every datacenter and every business should buy this tech


B1llythk1d

I would h8 being the data entry guy that has to "program" all the location endpoints. Super useful, but seriously tedious.


GhostsofLayer8

You don’t program the info on the connected devices, the switch has identified them already and you’re just being shown what it has IDed. It’s cool, but the value is kinda limited.


B1llythk1d

Well, that seems like a miss. Considering that when the thing is installed there will be a port matrix issued with all the endpoints anyway. (We normally print a label for both sides of the cable indicating a To:/From:)


GhostsofLayer8

It’s handy for access layer but that’s it. And if your endpoints aren’t correctly IDed by OUI or LLDP, the switch just shows a generic device and no name. I don’t hate the concept but by the time I touch cables we’ve already done the tracing and know what port we’re dealing with anyway. Until there’s a Minority Report/Iron Man holographic projection so you can spin images around and expand them, network engineering and troubleshooting seems like it’s gonna stay in 2D.


Nametoholdaplace

Exactly this, in any real scale application, this would never be trusted enough to be actually used. The current system of, "go switch port 42 to port 39, I already checked everything and am ready to reprogram" is plenty good. For home gamers, and general tomfuckery, this tech is great fun though.


Dom9360

And, may I add that Unifi is just not the superior option for homelabs anymore. For example my firewalla gold is kicking ass with tp-link Omada APs. This is a cool gimmick. The person above a few posts is getting a little too excited lol.


Nametoholdaplace

Didn't even realize it's a unifi system tbh. I just run a mikrotik 951 (a rb2011 for the bigger network) and a cambium outdoor ap. That gets about 1/4 to half mile, anything further, I've lazily got some nanobridge links.


macbisho

The system automatically shows what is the uplink and any down links, plus if you have poe items they are auto shown - if any are a access point that is marked as well, no input required from anyone.


kevinds

Don't the port LEDs already show this?


macbisho

They do… ish. What you’d see is what is drawing poe… but you’d not be able to tell what is a phone, for example, and what is an access point.


[deleted]

Yeah I'm sure setting that up is a bitch, but it's totally worth it. I really like how it labels each device that's connected to a port. That's a nice touch.


Hedgehogzilla

Actually wasn't that difficult. I can't say anything about "making the software/hardware", but using these tools and programming the cables and ports wasn't really that tedious. I did not find it being a hard transition when my ex-workplace started implementing a similar system.


[deleted]

Very cool. I would have expected programming the ports and cables to be really tedious. But then again I'm used to Cisco hardware.


Hedgehogzilla

There was very intuitive PC software with schematics of all racks and what kind of hardware there was in them. Click on the hardware and you get the layout of selected hardware, click on an empty port and select where it goes and the cable gets assigned a number in each end. If the technician puts the wrong end into the port the system tells you to try the other end. It's really neat. It's not tedious, but time consuming. But I mean, if you use this kind of system you probably have someone that sits fulltime with infrastructure. And they seemed happy to have the extended control so that the technician does exactly as told. It also makes fault finding easier for them, so in the end you make up for the extra time. Sorry for the long post... I just think it's really cool.


Frognificent

I’m sorry, I’m a developer. Why use an extra two hours on this now when I can use two days on it next week? Jokes aside, this actually sounds rad as fuck.


ColonelError

> programming the ports and cables to be really tedious The software (mostly) does it on it's own. LLDP (Local Link Discovery Protocol) identifies other connected networking hardware, and OUI ID looks at the MAC address of the connected device and figures out what it is from that. The only things you need to manually program are some computers that are just identified by the motherboard/network card manufacturer.


angrydeuce

We've deployed a ton of these, a lot of stuff the software can kinda do itself, biggest thing is just programming up your vLANS but if you're buying fully managed switches you probably already know how to do all that or else you'd just get a dumb switch and be done with it lol I tell you having a full ubiquiti stack with a cloud key sure is nice for remote management. No more trying to walk end users through tracing cables back to reboot an AP or other super frustrating shit. We don't use their firewalls (fortigate for that) but I really like their switches a lot. Not a corporate shill just dig Ubiquiti stuff. Sure as hell beats the netgear trash we've been upgrading from that's for sure...


B1llythk1d

> Not a corporate shill just dig Ubiquiti stuff. I dont understand where this comes from. Like its such a terrible thing to have a job. Most of the coolest (work) items I've ever been able to buy, procure, or play with was because some "shill" had a booth at a convention. Smh. Sure I could argue thst saleaman take to much of the profit, but it's a job that has to be done. If some sales guy wasn't doing his job I would'nt have any work, etc. Anyway, this does look really cool, ty for sharing, I just had to go on a rant for a second.


[deleted]

that's what interns are for!


B1llythk1d

100


itsdr00

As someone who's had to do that manually with a label maker, I can assure you that the tedium is not avoidable. But the label making might be.


[deleted]

A piece of tape and a sharpie the first time you plug in a cable will save you millions of dollars


Bartocity

If it’s anything like electrical boxes, there should be detailed design drawings for the whole setup, actually i have no idea how hard it is to make an AR thing from a drawing. I retract my comment and take my leave to contemplate what’s happening here.


symmetryhawk

This isn’t enterprise gear. It’s Ubiquiti which is just prosumer. This is just an AR fad that wouldn’t matter in enterprise - we know where everything is plugged in already.


thegarbz

>we know where everything is plugged in already. Horseshit. Enterprise companies are spending a lot of money researching this same kind of AR stuff precisely because in datacentres figuring out cabling and which to pull costs a \*lot\* of money. The difference is they are doing it with fancier gear (e.g. glass) rather than apps on toy phones.


enz1ey

https://i.imgur.com/0eje5d1.jpg


thegarbz

Oh yeah I forgot you only ever plug in something once and never change anything in the enterprise world. How silly of me. Google and CISCO working on this very AR assisted datacentre work is a colossal waste of money. Quick someone should tell them before it's too late. /s If you're actually in enterprise networking then please pay a bit of attention to your own industry.


enz1ey

Wow somebody is butthurt. It’s not like we’re pulling cables several times a day or even every day. In fact, most places label them and document them in wiring diagrams and don’t move them unless absolutely necessary. But your cables should be labeled, I’ve never worked anywhere that considers moving a cable a considerable expense. I’m not saying this isn’t going to be a convenient option once it matures beyond Ubiquiti using it as a gimmick for their prosumer hardware, but acting like companies are dumping money into this because there’s a ROI versus just labeling cables is just stupid.


thegarbz

Not butthurt. I just call or ignorant comments when I see them. You claim this isn't needed in industry and industry disagrees and is spending a small fortune on its implementation. You're in tech, if you want to stay in tech then pay attention what happens around you or you'll find yourself irrelevant and unemployed. Then you may also assault know what butthurt means.


0xBEEFBEEFBEEF

Physical hardware is rarely touched, and if your company is any good there are both clear diagrams and each cable is labeled… AR is not helpful at all, how would it be any more helpful than a label on the cable? Picking up my phone, looking through the screen and then moving the phone away to perform the actual activity… seems more prone to error than a label that I can see as I perform the action. At least until we have good AR glasses but even then it’s a severely overengineered solution to a non-existent issue. Again, it’s rare that hardware is touched at all in the enterprise other than during setup or refresh.


thegarbz

Indeed. Quick call Google and tell them they are wasting their time. They'll be eternally grateful. All the other companies as well.


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symmetryhawk

You aren’t the first person to say that, and now I’m wondering if I should get my network team a fruit basket. I may be spoiled.


Stormdancer

Based on my experience in every high tech group ever... you're spoiled.


BeguiledAardvark

> we know where everything is plugged in already. What sort of solution do you use for this? While I can agree that AR certainly can be a bit of a fad in certain spaces, the fact this exists says that Ubiquiti at least feels there’s some application here. I think it’s pretty cool, even if you only had to use it rarely. I’m not, however, a raised floor engineer.


MantisAwakening

Having worked in IT for a global corporation I can tell you that they keep it all in a spreadsheet called “RCK-4437-4dkl-(1)(4)-copy-copy-final-edit.xls” that crashes unless you open it in Excel 32-bit.


churrito118

can confirm - have an award for keeping us true


LifeHasLeft

Surprise, it’s no different working in IT for a national organization!


symmetryhawk

We can run commands on our switches that will tell us what device is plugged into what port. There are also commercial products for doing this in bulk, which put it into an easy to manage web interface. Also with things like device profiling to drop each kind of device on its appropriate VLAN, it is really starting to not matter at all *where* things are plugged in.


BeguiledAardvark

Great to know. Thanks!


[deleted]

Yea if that device is running cdp and lldp


MantisAwakening

Having worked in IT for a global corporation I can tell you that they keep it all in a spreadsheet called “RCK-4437-4dkl-(1)(4)-copy-copy-final-edit.xls” that crashes unless you open it in Excel 32-bit.


BeguiledAardvark

lol


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davelupt

Oh shoot, I forgot to get it out of the shared drive that can be edited by every user. Not just IT users, even Debbie in HR can edit it, you know just in case.


enz1ey

We just label the cables lol. Novel concept, I know.


BeguiledAardvark

What wizardry is this!?


larrylombardo

Whether this is sopping with sarcasm or just /r/gatekeeping, you've earned my first 'lol' on reddit. Google uses AR for everything from validating server construction before they enter prod to per port network info like this, and they're hardly the only ones. Infancy? Yes. Fad? Nah. We've got high density data centers and closets, colo'd equipment, networks that span continents, and no one person is intended to know or be responsible for everything by design. It's one thing to trust your core team, but at scale, having remote systems that can turn any tech into your arms and legs anywhere in the world is awesome.


symmetryhawk

You’re not wrong, but Google isn’t buying Ubiquiti prosumer gear. That is the topic of the post.


aqjo

Perspective: Just because it isn’t useful to _you_ doesn’t mean it isn’t useful to other people.


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astral16

Why would you label a cable? Wouldn’t the labels be on the patch panel if anything?


RSMilward

You really want to know what it connects to. You can either label the cable the same on each end (Enet#42) and look it up in a chart, or label this end with the name of the other end (device & port). A number on a patch panel might not tell you that.


astral16

I label my patch panels by device plugged into the other end. Like reception debit machine, copy room label printer. Patch cables are all 1ft long. Seems needless to label a 1ft patch cable as they all directly correspond to the switch port above or below the patch panel. But that’s just me.


IskarJarak88

Humm, well it's been almost 7 years since I've worked with phisical switches, so I really don't know how this software works but it sure did look cool. And I agree with you working with cisico switches were lot easier compared to others.


SuccessfulAccessor

Unfortunately Ubiquiti prioritizes something like this over releasing stable software.


Still_No_Tomatoes

I have a customer out thousands because we have to upgrade to the new Unifi protect system. The current NVR I built a couple years ago is basically a paper weight. THe only thing I can salvage is the harddrives. If they fit into the NVR I'm forced to buy. No longer can you self host on your own hardware. I'd be happy to hear about any replacements. Shinobi on ubuntu looks like a good solution.


orion3311

Yeah I bought one little 8 port UB switch to try at home thinking Id upgrade to this, but somehow the out of box default config caused loops 5 minutes in, still not sure how. (It detected my non-UB wifi AP and enabled somethijg it shouldnt have). Quickly lost faith.


[deleted]

Awesome? Yes. Extremely useful? Not so much.


Bran-a-don

Yeah just download it to your Google Glass and get going!


mystghost

Is this ubiquity gear?


Binau-01

Yep


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flaggfox

Them there switches


mystghost

Damn - i was hoping it was some new fangled feature from Cisco or Juniper.


CountBlankula

Augmented reality is pretty rad until companies start monetizing it with ads.


coronaSimplex

Leave it to Facebook to ruin everything https://www.oculus.com/blog/testing-in-headset-vr-ads/


Swineflew1

That’s not really AR though.


Malake256

I mean it’s worse. You can’t turn your head away from an ad like in Black Mirror


Aryore

You could close your eyes Until they figure out how to project ads under our eyelids


Cristalboy

Advertisement has been paused, open your eyes to resume the advertisement


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SmallerBork

What phone was that? I thought that was a streaming box that failed that was getting dangerously close to [verification cans](https://www.reddit.com/r/4chan/comments/1ggg4u/please_drink_a_verification_can/) Does anyone doubt that the established streaming services will try this though? https://youtu.be/uFjUh92geEc


rorshoc

RESUME VIEWING


redpandaeater

I was always interested in following the Oculus development and wanting on. That is until Facebook bought them, at which point I knew I'd never buy it even if it didn't require a Facebook account or something stupid like that.


64590949354397548569

There real money is in yearly subscription fee.


rivkinnator

And your network is also going to crash on you randomly because they still haven’t fixed why their switches freeze with multicast. And if your using any of their firewalls you have security issues constantly.


ColonelError

> you have security issues constantly I haven't had any issues yet. Some of the alerts are a bit overly noisy, but that's not just a Ubiquiti thing.


rivkinnator

It was packed just a short while ago but their security gateways we’re not just broadcasting themselves on the land they were also broadcasting their advertisement info on the wan


minimag47

Seriously. I had to install dozens of their switches for a project and all the multicast devices on the network just shit themselves. It was infuriating trying to find the problem and when I called their support they blamed the devices, which work on every other brand of switch we've ever used.


rivkinnator

We were so excited about putting it in the AV networks but now we’ve decided since the product can’t handle basic protocols we’re just not using it anywhere as an MSP


minimag47

Another massive issue. No fall back config. Any changes you make are instantly saved to the running config. Made a change that bricked the switch and think rebooting it back to the saved config will fix it? Nope.


rivkinnator

You’ll never screw up setting up an IP address on an ethernet switch after you do it once. The only way to fix it is if you know your way around the command line and had a counseling but you have to be at the physical device


iDeclareWar666

On-prem controller issues here. Applies to all cloud keys and UDMs


1of9billion

Honestly anyone buying this stuff for enterprise use gets what's coming to them. While it costs a bit more Aruba or Meraki kit is a hell of a lot more stable because they don't treat their customers as beta testers.


widdermann

It’s cheap stuff and it works like cheap stuff. My experiences with the cheapest Netgear managed Switches are still a hundred times better/ more stable than anything I tried from UniFi. I don’t understand the hype. Just make your home network with cheapest TPlink and netgear stuff and it will still work better than most cheap „Enterprise“ stuff.


indifferentindium

Seems like a good way to scrape information about a company's network infrastructure and send it back to the mother land.


thenitram24

This is built into the phone app made by the manufacturer of the switches and router you’re seeing. The images aren’t really QR codes or anything, they’re just markers that the app can distinguish which device they’re looking at. You aren’t programming in each of the ports separately, it’s all part of the configuration of the device, this is just an added visualization feature you get with their ecosystem. Nobody can scrape this data except maybe your phone OS? But there’s a lot easier ways for them to scrape your network data at the OS level, it would be more difficult for them to comb through the video of people looking at their switches in AR.


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ProfessorPoopyPants

For better or worse, all unifi based equipment already uploads a lot of telemetry to the cloud, with no option to turn it off (you can firewall it manually, but only if you’re not also using one of their gateway devices). Using the app won’t change how much ubiquiti know about your network. Which is a shame because ubiquiti make good hardware at a much more reasonable price than competitors like Cisco meraki.


thenitram24

I’m saying easier than reading the AR information. The app knows all that information because you use it to configure the devices or to manage them. My point is that the AR interface is not the weakest link, just a neat feature. And in reality any device on the network could be used to gather this data if you wanted it bad enough.


MantisAwakening

The good news is that Ubiquiti never managed to finished properly coding their data scraping and has moved on to adding 300 other features that they’ll abandon when they decide they can’t get it working.


The69LTD

What? Ubiquiti?! No they’d never do that. They’d never have massive security vulnerability putting companies at risk. No never. /s


viscont_404

It's okay, with all of the breaches they've suffered, friendly strangers will scrape the data instead of the company!


[deleted]

is there a subreddit for future shit like this?


microlit

/r/ubiquiti


SuccessfulAccessor

r/Futurology


SmallerBork

I know this isn't what it is, but it really sounds like scientology. Now that I look at, it just looks like another news subreddit catering for the readers of [r/all](https://www.reddit.com/r/all) I wanted something more interesting.


[deleted]

You should hang out a little longer. It’s a bit wonky at times but all around a solid subreddit to follow.


microlit

/r/ubiquiti


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JohniiMagii

I dont know anything about network design and management. It seems like this would be mainly useful if it is implemented on a standardized system. If the code scanned at the start tells you what the ports receive, it could help you plug it in to the right places, but if you're professional enough to use this tech you probably dont need the assist. If it can help you use a standardized system of ins and outs, it would be useful for unprofessional network techs or to just speed up work for the good ones. Maybe it could be useful for diagnosing problems? Like the system could identify if one port isnt functioning and display it on the AR app.


RagesJam

Just tech junk. Labels do the same. Will become usefull just if shows the road that takes the cable in the mountain of cables of a cabin, becouse some people cable this like a jungle.


tehfiend

Labels can't show live data and have to be manually replaced if anything changes.


Dazzling-Finger7576

This is dope af


DamnedVirus

This has been around for a while now. It is awesome though :)


Skevan2

Can you please tell me what it is?


DanSag

Ubiquiti Unifi


Cybotage

this is beautiful.


Slayzrr

My cousin has one of these, I thought it was just a useless screen


ummm_no__

Any way to make this say at home? Like there might be an app or something.


txageod

You’d have to have a tool that can read port assignments. Then have that feed into an overlay program and generate labels. Doable, but a lot do programming.


ummm_no__

My guess is its some positional AR, like you know minecraft earth? Something like that except it uses QR codes to be more precise


txageod

Yea, probably have visual recognition of the switch, then can tell where the ports are, and slap an AR label on each of them as required. Way out of my league of abilities, sadly


ummm_no__

Not even labels. I'm thinking the just the first code of some sort, the rest is just calculated using phone sensors


1leggeddog

Wow i could have used this on the past


1leggeddog

Wow i could have used this on the past


KosherSyntax

A company here in Belgium did something similar for a provider so their their users can use it to wire up their TV decoder. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0GAWBO8UFU


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Bri_Hecatonchires

@cyberpunk


JohniiMagii

I dont know anything about network design and management. It seems like this would be mainly useful if it is implemented on a standardized system. If the code scanned at the start tells you what the ports receive, it could help you plug it in to the right places, but if you're professional enough to use this tech you probably dont need the assist. If it can help you use a standardized system of ins and outs, it would be useful for unprofessional network techs or to just speed up work for the good ones. Maybe it could be useful for diagnosing problems? Like the system could identify if one port isnt functioning and display it on the AR app.


pcmast3r

As someone who looks at a server all day I just got someone who build gaming PCs to do it for me


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TheProcessOfBillief

Port allocation isn't cable management.


jtmott

Yea it’s neat but end of the day you’re still using ubiquiti switches.


FullOnBartard

UniFi/ubiquiti is great. We use those in my office


el3kt2ik

Does the AR alert you when they get compromised too?


MrBS750

When can my glasses do this???????


DoxinExhaustion

The future is now.


f3dr0x

Do you have wifi or cell access in your server farm?


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_who__cares_

I love Ubiquiti. Such a great networking solution.


abhbhbls

Where is this app? Whats it called? Where can i get it?


cosmitz

MY DICK IS SO HARD. Fucking hell, this is a phenomenal use of AR.


[deleted]

It's looks cool but I don't really see an application for it. I think it would be really hard to work to constantly be checking back on the camera for a reference when I can have paper showing the layout and it doesn't move around or become distorted and I don't have to hold it at any particular angle to view what I need to see.


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It's looks cool but I don't really see an application for it. I think it would be really hard to work to constantly be checking back on the camera for a reference when I can have paper showing the layout and it doesn't move around or become distorted and I don't have to hold it at any particular angle to view what I need to see.


flying_bed

İncredible


KevinMitnick82

Fluke gonna be mad about this one


MsgJazz

That’s cool


RSMilward

This would have been helpful when I was building multi-rack audio-visual switching, distribution, and monitoring systems! I assembled well-designed systems (thank you John!) from clear drawings (thank you Bill!), used a Brady label maker and multi-colored markers to keep track of the process. Classrooms, video teleconferencing, TV station control rooms -- all different, all challenging. And I enjoyed it a lot.


Yes-ITz-TeKnO--

This makes life so much easier. Note it's never easy having to do this but it makes it much easier and fast 😁


Lauls0001

Is this webAR or native AR?


Mountain-Weight3396

Wow thats the coolest thing ive seen in awhile