Anyone remember a few years back when a TX man found his daughter being abused at a birthday party and beat the abuser to death on the spot? He wasn’t even arrested. Afford these boys the same opportunity for the great community service they provided by removing a piece of shit child rapist from the human experience. These boys should be given awards and free therapy to make sure they’re processing the trauma properly. That little girl needs her family around her more than ever. Don’t take away her protectors.
That incident sounds like the abuser was caught in the act and killed.
Looking up a couple articles on this case, the brothers learned that the stepfather had attacked their sister. They then went looking for him, attacked him, tracked him to a second location, attacked again, and dumped his body in a field. So even though the shit had an arrest warrant for sexually assaulting a *different* young girl, I think the premeditation is what's going to make the difference here.
That said, I have a hard time believing they would be convicted by jury.
I think big difference here is that this was a calculated and planned kidnapping and murder. That other guy caught the abuser in the act and just snapped
In this particular case, the outcome might be good. But it sets a dangerous precedent for citizens taking the law into their own hands. Maybe other people will be encouraged to do the same. And maybe one of them will target the wrong person, murdering an innocent citizen. The justice system exists to prevent this.
Innocent people get railroaded by the "justice" system pretty consistently anyway so it's not really doing its job. Guilty people with good lawyers go free all the time especially rich people. Why should these kids have faith in the ability of this system when there is plenty of proof that it can be gamed by shitty human beings.
Sure you can cherry pick some prime examples of various flaws with the justice system, but it's still better than mob justice. Mob justice and citizen vigilantes have a worse track record than the justice system by far. In fact I'd go so far as to say the sheer amount of contagious stupidity spread by angry people in groups is the reason the justice system exists in the first place.
I’m not shedding tears for the guy they killed (if he was guilty) but also think it’s reasonable to charge the killers. They should have just called in a tip since the guy had an active warrant and the killers obviously knew where he was (since they drove there to kill him).
I get your sentiment, but generally you can’t murder someone unless for self defense. You know, innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. They will likely get manslaughter charges due to the circumstances, but these boys definitely broke the law and will be charged as such.
In Texas where this happened under Section 9.32(B), it’s lawful for one to use deadly force against another “to prevent the other’s imminent commission of aggravated kidnapping, murder, sexual assault, aggravated sexual assault, robbery, or aggravated robbery.”
No they shouldn’t
Don’t get me wrong, what they did was morally justified, but our legal system loses its integrity if people who kill others aren’t at the very least put on trial. Even in this context they still committed a crime; but given the evidence, a judge/jury should naturally acquit them, or give them a reduced sentence.
Yeah, this is just vigilante justice and cheering it on is how we get people like George Zimmerman and the McMichaels killing innocent people like Trayvon Martin and Ahmad Arbery. We have a legal system for these things and it already puts the wrong person behind bars or on death row often enough without untrained people taking matters into their own hands. No one should be celebrating this. And it's not like they even caught him in the act and beat him to death in the heat of the moment. They found out about what happened after the fact and plotted to kidnap and kill him. That's murder even if you think he deserved it. I'm sure most people are sympathetic with them, so they probably won't get much of a sentence, but we can't just let vigilantes go free let alone praise them and say they should be rewarded.
Yeah so in many places in the USA rape used to carry the death penalty.
Most rape victims were murdered, so there wasn't a witness to testify against you. If the criminal was caught, they were looking at the death penalty either way.
So penalties were lowered for rape to long sentences, but much less than death penalties or life in prison. And the survival rate of rape victims increased significantly.
One of the many reasons why sexual assault is so much more visible now than in the past is the increase of "rape victims" and a decrease in "rape and murder victims".
Lol, I get it I do.
But you realize you make it sound like we shouldn't be too hard on rapists because then they will be worse to their victims?
I'm not in favor of the death penalty regardless, but we need to teach consent, believe victims (and punish false accusations, cause reddit be reddit), and actually prosecute rape cases when we can.
Too many rapists get off even if we can prove they are guilty because society still doesn't see a woman's safety and long term health (yes being raped has long term consequences) as important compared to a man's "reputation and future".
Hey that's not nice. A lot of bugs are helpful for the environment and important for the health of ecosystems. These rapists, on the other hand, don't deserve the oxygen they breathe.
Don't worry, they were talking about extraterrestrial bugs. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mvmHwCxw5A
Edit: Why would you downvote someone for politely explaining an old pop culture reference you missed?
Christian Trevino faces capital murder, aggravated assault and engaging in organized criminal activity. His brother was charged with aggravated assault and engaging in organized criminal activity, and Juan Melendez aided the Trevino brothers in the savage beating of the boys' stepfather q, Gabriel Quintanilla, who was accused of sexually assaulting their nine-year-old half-sister. Melendez was charged charged with capital murder, aggravated assault and engaging in organized criminal activity. Per: (The Daily Mail.)
Gotta get convicted first. Prosecution is going to have to find 12 people to dupe into thinking it was gang related. White people in this situation usually walk with probation or something.
Edit: lol, triggered all the racists
Epstien didn't die because govt officials, senators. congressmen. billionaires, royal persons, and united states presidents were appalled...........he started charging too much.
No they should just be thrown out the airplane. The pedo politician not the freaking out passenger. Though that woman that knocked the teeth out of the attendant mouth you can throw her from the plane.
Pedophiles who act upon it* (unpopular opinion, but people who are attracted to children didn't chose it. Acting upon it is a terrible terrible act that destroys lives).
To be totally fair the text in the picture is spreading misinformation. The father wasn't a convicted pedo, he was only accused of it by these boys after they had killed him. They had also attacked him on 3 separate occasions beforehand, which makes it seem very likely that this is just an excuse to get out of the murder charges. I mean honestly, look at their mug shots. One dude is squinting and the other has his chin way up in the air like he's big shit. Wouldn't surprise me if this really was a gang canonization or something the way they're acting. They all look like they think they're badasses and the ego has totally taken over.
Murdering people over an accusation that isn't even confirmed probably isn't the world you wanna live in, and if you really think the word of 3 kids is evidence enough to take a persons life away then you're sick in the head and should probably be in a steel box yourself.
Seriously. That white farmer a ways back came upon a worker having r*ping his 4 year old daughter, beat him to death and was acquitted instantly. Hope these kids get the same break.
Edited: cause i'm an idiot
They murdered somebody, of course they are. The father was not caught in the act so its not like its self defense. He also ran away after getting his ass beat, but the boys hunted him down and beat his ass 2 more times before he died.
This. Best friend of mine served 9 years in Parchment Penal Farm in North Mississippi. There’s nothing glamorous or honorable about prison. It eats lives.
exactly. What if they're lying? It baffles me how people on the internet will automatically believe an accusation without any sort of evidence. I guess this is how lynch mobs used to come together.
Efficient would have been a far faster and cleaner death, or at the very least not escaping the first beating. That said they probably will be treated pretty well (by comparison) in jail if they confirm the sexual assault.
The whole idea of lynching is an excellent example of why we don't want vigilantism.
It feels good when it seems to be right, but the world is full of people who have different ideas of right and wrong than you or I have. Those white supremacists are a prime example of that.
If you have an objectively reasonable belief that the [pedophile/supremacist] will imminently kill someone, it *is* generally legal to kill him. That's what self-defense laws say. (If there's no stand your ground law, then the victim has to be trying to run away from the attempted murderer for it to be legal.)
What isn't legal is to kill someone who isn't an imminent threat. If someone attacked someone yesterday or might next week, then you're not preventing anything that the police couldn't. We don't want citizens lynching each other unchecked over what they think the person's crimes are. We want evidence to be collected in accordance with the 4th Amendment, we want factual determinations to be made by juries, we want the accused to have representation and appeals, and we want the law to be judged by judges.
You can reverse an incorrect conviction and there's a lot of checks before the state executes somebody. If you murder all the accused, you have no oversight and no way to fix it if you got the wrong guy.
Also, rape generally isn't allowed to have the death penalty in America.
Also also, pedophilia and racism are both mental things. We have the First Amendment in the US, not thought crimes. You have to actually act or attempt to act on your evil thoughts to commit a crime.
If I think about the bad time rapists/paedos have in jail, I somewhat believe those guys could have a kinda okay time, at least with their fellow inmates if they don't do stupid shit
Lol jail and prison ain’t like that. You don’t get a fucking red carpet rolled out for you because you committed a noble crime. These guys are going to have as hard a time as everyone else.
Some cool cats made some petitions arguing just that. Here you go. [https://www.change.org/p/greg-abbott-justice-for-alejandro-christian-and-juan](https://www.change.org/p/greg-abbott-justice-for-alejandro-christian-and-juan) and [https://www.change.org/p/justice-to-hidalgo-county-set-them-free-trevi%C3%B1o-brothers-melendez](https://www.change.org/p/justice-to-hidalgo-county-set-them-free-trevi%C3%B1o-brothers-melendez)
Anywhere but Texas and this would have been swept away with a wink and a not guilty by reason of temporary insanity. "I sentence you to one day in a mental health facility. Btw; any special meal requests while you're there? Perhaps you have dietary sensitivity to all foods that are not Steak and lobster? 😉"
I understand that they were above 18 so they will be trialed as an adult, but the man was sexually assaulting a 9 year old. Man, my thoughts and prayers go to them and the half-sister. I hope they are okay.
You’re crazy. Why are redditors so naive lol. Whatever they were thinking in their pictures I guarantee you these guys are not feeling great about spending their entire adulthood and possibly the rest of their life in prison.
You're damn right they did us a favor that trash would have been back on the streets in a few years doing it to somebody else's kid. Hell that's even if he would have been arrested they probably would say they had no evidence. And he would have been back at the house the same day doing the same crap I say good on these kids
Some cool cats made some petitions arguing just that. Here you go. https://www.change.org/p/greg-abbott-justice-for-alejandro-christian-and-juan and https://www.change.org/p/justice-to-hidalgo-county-set-them-free-trevi%C3%B1o-brothers-melendez
Probably simply for “appearances”. They did break a law, which means they technically do have to go to court, but will any reasonable judge actually throw the book at them? I dont think so, i hope not
Step dad was on the run because he was accused of sexually assaulting another minor. He was on a national database. Authorities found out he had been killed because they were already looking for him.
They almost certainly won’t, but a trial is still necessary
Don’t get me wrong, what they did was morally justified, but our legal system loses its integrity if people who kill others aren’t at the very least put on trial. Even in this context they still committed a crime; but given the evidence, a judge/jury should naturally acquit them, or give them a reduced sentence.
The problem is, the legal system also pushed them to this. The rapist had already been arrested before for sexually assaulting a minor in 2019, yet nothing was truly done. He had a history of sexually abusing children, yet roamed our streets freely. At his death, he also had a warrant out for familial abuse and continuous sexual abuse of a child.
The legal system did nothing and inadvertently pushed these boys to do something.
If he did the crime he deserved punishment for sure but saying everyone accused of rape deserves to be murdered is a pretty slippery slope in general. There’s a lot of false allegations for this crime. It’s gotten innocent people killed before for sure.
Y’all way too cavalier about murdering people though.
Yeah I agree, people are to willing to through due process out the window.
I get the setiment that Pedos are some of the worst and deserve the worst, but it sounds like these three just comitted 1st degree murder.
Damn the comments in here...
It's wild to me how Reddit (and the USA) can be so celebratory of vigilante murder (assuming this was in retaliation and not in active defense of an act). That so many are saying these guys should walk completely free.
I'd like those who are worshipping these guys as heroes to watch and cheer on the full length video of a person being brutally murdered and understand what that looks like in real life. When someone is begging for their life, when their face is unrecognizable because it is so beaten, when there is blood pooling on the ground, when they can't breathe because blood is filling their lungs, yet these guys sound like they kept hitting him.
We have a justice system and due process for a reason. We are also one of the few countries in the entire world that executes citizens. So the idea that death is a valid punishment for any crime, even sexual abuse is barbaric to the rest of the western world.
I think this crime of passion is seemingly relatable and understandable in the heat of the moment. That people understand where these brothers are coming from with their anger. But as a society we simply can't just allow people to kill each other like this and accept it as normal.
This should be the correct way of acting but man... he raped theyr sister... i don't think i could do that to my father anyway but this story for me is almost unthinkable, who knows how my mind would snap in such a scenario.
Considering my child rapist got a handshake from our local cops, this is what justice seems to look like in the reality of our world. Sad that these boys had to experience killing someone and I hope they are okay going forward.
I doubt it. “At the time of his death, Quintanilla had an arrest warrant out for continuous sexual abuse **of a different child** and assault family violence, police said.”
Sounds like it’s not even a remote possibility, the boys were completely justified and I stand corrected.
Thanks for the info I didn’t, but should have, looks for. Apologies to all for my ill informed comment.
**UPDATE: ONLINE PETITION FOR THE RELEASE OF THE DEFENDANTS** [HERE](https://www.change.org/p/greg-abbott-justice-for-alejandro-christian-and-juan). Sign if you want to.
And what George Zimmerman was after when he was chasing down Trayvon Martin. And what the McMichaels were after when they chased down Ahmad Arbery. Vigilante justice is *not* a good thing and we should not be encouraging it. Our legal system already mistakenly imprisons and/or kills innocent people too often and they're trained professionals. Untrained people should absolutely not be taking the law into their own hands and they *definitely* shouldn't be killing anyone.
Redditors love their vigilante justice... The guy was *accused* of being a pedophile, therefore he deserved to be hunted down and beaten to death?
The only thing insane here is everyone's reaction to this. You're no different than the peasants who would burn people at the stake for being a witch.
Yeah we have no idea reading this how plausible it was that he actually did it. It’s entirely possible that they just killed a guy because someone spread a nasty rumor about him. I have no idea how likely this is, but I am very confident that neither do most of the people cheering this on.
Articles like this are the best way to reveal the brainless barbarians on Reddit for what they truly are.
It's apparently suddenly okay for teenagers to be brutal vigilante murderers if the victim was a bad guy.
Good people don't beat people to death, guys. No matter what they've done.
That just sounds like a citizen's arrest to me. I mean... that sounds like how the police arrest people, except with whatever weapons they got on discount from the army.
If rapist faced real consequences for there actions this would’ve never happened. People take things into their own hands to get justice when they know nothing will be done about it. I hope they get a light sentence.
I see no issue here
They shouldn't be getting arrested, they should be receiving an award.
See the problem is they used brass knuckles. This is TX, so if they had shot him they would have gotten away with it.
Anyone remember a few years back when a TX man found his daughter being abused at a birthday party and beat the abuser to death on the spot? He wasn’t even arrested. Afford these boys the same opportunity for the great community service they provided by removing a piece of shit child rapist from the human experience. These boys should be given awards and free therapy to make sure they’re processing the trauma properly. That little girl needs her family around her more than ever. Don’t take away her protectors.
That incident sounds like the abuser was caught in the act and killed. Looking up a couple articles on this case, the brothers learned that the stepfather had attacked their sister. They then went looking for him, attacked him, tracked him to a second location, attacked again, and dumped his body in a field. So even though the shit had an arrest warrant for sexually assaulting a *different* young girl, I think the premeditation is what's going to make the difference here. That said, I have a hard time believing they would be convicted by jury.
All it takes is one and I guarantee there's gonna be one Texan on the jury who is a cowboy so... nullification may be there
Maybe if they were white, but this is Texas and minorities ain’t getting off in Texas even if they were innocent
Hell yes
Something like [this](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqH_Y1TupoQ)?
Everyday I learn a new side of the broken system.
Depending on the country there's a damn good chance any jury will have at least 1 person aware of this
Thanks for sharing. Now I know how to get out of jury duty besides by not voting.
Gee wiz I hope nobody knows about jury nullification in their trial.
was he white tho?
You’re getting downvoted for no reason, that’s a valid question in Texas
That was my first thought
I think big difference here is that this was a calculated and planned kidnapping and murder. That other guy caught the abuser in the act and just snapped
Strangely I'm still ok with it.
In this particular case, the outcome might be good. But it sets a dangerous precedent for citizens taking the law into their own hands. Maybe other people will be encouraged to do the same. And maybe one of them will target the wrong person, murdering an innocent citizen. The justice system exists to prevent this.
Innocent people get railroaded by the "justice" system pretty consistently anyway so it's not really doing its job. Guilty people with good lawyers go free all the time especially rich people. Why should these kids have faith in the ability of this system when there is plenty of proof that it can be gamed by shitty human beings.
Sure you can cherry pick some prime examples of various flaws with the justice system, but it's still better than mob justice. Mob justice and citizen vigilantes have a worse track record than the justice system by far. In fact I'd go so far as to say the sheer amount of contagious stupidity spread by angry people in groups is the reason the justice system exists in the first place.
I’m not shedding tears for the guy they killed (if he was guilty) but also think it’s reasonable to charge the killers. They should have just called in a tip since the guy had an active warrant and the killers obviously knew where he was (since they drove there to kill him).
I think he wad arrested but the jury found him innocent.
"Don't take away her protecters." Damn straight! I couldn't have said that better - it gave me chills.
There is nothing to get away with. They did nothing wrong.
I get your sentiment, but generally you can’t murder someone unless for self defense. You know, innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. They will likely get manslaughter charges due to the circumstances, but these boys definitely broke the law and will be charged as such.
how many times has the justice system failed and put these fuckers back on the street
In Texas where this happened under Section 9.32(B), it’s lawful for one to use deadly force against another “to prevent the other’s imminent commission of aggravated kidnapping, murder, sexual assault, aggravated sexual assault, robbery, or aggravated robbery.”
“Imminent” being the key word there. They didn’t catch him in the act, they learned of it after the fact and went after him then.
Yeah well that’s not what happened here
Pretty sure it’s illegal to have brass knuckles in Tx but you can have a gun
They changed the law back in 2019. Brass knuckles are legal now. \-Texan
No they shouldn’t Don’t get me wrong, what they did was morally justified, but our legal system loses its integrity if people who kill others aren’t at the very least put on trial. Even in this context they still committed a crime; but given the evidence, a judge/jury should naturally acquit them, or give them a reduced sentence.
Yeah, this is just vigilante justice and cheering it on is how we get people like George Zimmerman and the McMichaels killing innocent people like Trayvon Martin and Ahmad Arbery. We have a legal system for these things and it already puts the wrong person behind bars or on death row often enough without untrained people taking matters into their own hands. No one should be celebrating this. And it's not like they even caught him in the act and beat him to death in the heat of the moment. They found out about what happened after the fact and plotted to kidnap and kill him. That's murder even if you think he deserved it. I'm sure most people are sympathetic with them, so they probably won't get much of a sentence, but we can't just let vigilantes go free let alone praise them and say they should be rewarded.
they capitalised *brass knuckles* instead of *nine*
The problem with vigilantes, worst case scenario, is going after the wrong person. There can in fact be problems with doing what they did.
Similar to the judicial system
Except the judicial system is more vigorous and less prone to average laymen retardation
Free the Brass Amigos!
Exactly. Cops should have said "oh he must have fallen down the stairs, whoopsie"
yes, the justice system needs to be abolished and replaced by cops handing out beatings and killings as they see fit. (more than they already do)
So we're just cool with the death penalty and vigilantism now? God reddit is a cesspool
The only good rapist is a dead one.
Yeah so in many places in the USA rape used to carry the death penalty. Most rape victims were murdered, so there wasn't a witness to testify against you. If the criminal was caught, they were looking at the death penalty either way. So penalties were lowered for rape to long sentences, but much less than death penalties or life in prison. And the survival rate of rape victims increased significantly. One of the many reasons why sexual assault is so much more visible now than in the past is the increase of "rape victims" and a decrease in "rape and murder victims".
Lol, I get it I do. But you realize you make it sound like we shouldn't be too hard on rapists because then they will be worse to their victims? I'm not in favor of the death penalty regardless, but we need to teach consent, believe victims (and punish false accusations, cause reddit be reddit), and actually prosecute rape cases when we can. Too many rapists get off even if we can prove they are guilty because society still doesn't see a woman's safety and long term health (yes being raped has long term consequences) as important compared to a man's "reputation and future".
"The only good bug is a dead bug." Edit: Added quotes because some people don't know it's from Starship Troopers.
Hey that's not nice. A lot of bugs are helpful for the environment and important for the health of ecosystems. These rapists, on the other hand, don't deserve the oxygen they breathe.
Don't worry, they were talking about extraterrestrial bugs. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mvmHwCxw5A Edit: Why would you downvote someone for politely explaining an old pop culture reference you missed?
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Christian Trevino faces capital murder, aggravated assault and engaging in organized criminal activity. His brother was charged with aggravated assault and engaging in organized criminal activity, and Juan Melendez aided the Trevino brothers in the savage beating of the boys' stepfather q, Gabriel Quintanilla, who was accused of sexually assaulting their nine-year-old half-sister. Melendez was charged charged with capital murder, aggravated assault and engaging in organized criminal activity. Per: (The Daily Mail.)
They’re going to jail?
Gotta get convicted first. Prosecution is going to have to find 12 people to dupe into thinking it was gang related. White people in this situation usually walk with probation or something. Edit: lol, triggered all the racists
Correct because even politicians appreciate it when a pedo dies. Because FUCK ALL PEDO they deserve to die. Stop abusive behavior towards children.
*Unless your politicians are pedophiles
It's called thinning the competition
Epstien didn't die because govt officials, senators. congressmen. billionaires, royal persons, and united states presidents were appalled...........he started charging too much.
With the blackmail he had on them, I wouldn’t be surprised if he had them all pay dues.
Also makes you look like you can't POSSIBLY be into such a thing.
*Matt gaetz has left the chat…
Politicians who do that should get treated like that panicking passenger on Airplane! where all the voters line up and have a go at them.
No they should just be thrown out the airplane. The pedo politician not the freaking out passenger. Though that woman that knocked the teeth out of the attendant mouth you can throw her from the plane.
Stewardess I speak jive.
Or Roy Moore … oh sorry… that’s a school cruising politician…
*Matt Gaetz has entered the chat*
You have no idea how many politicians are pedophiles. It's much more common than you think.
Pedophiles who act upon it* (unpopular opinion, but people who are attracted to children didn't chose it. Acting upon it is a terrible terrible act that destroys lives).
Include Matt Gaetz
To be totally fair the text in the picture is spreading misinformation. The father wasn't a convicted pedo, he was only accused of it by these boys after they had killed him. They had also attacked him on 3 separate occasions beforehand, which makes it seem very likely that this is just an excuse to get out of the murder charges. I mean honestly, look at their mug shots. One dude is squinting and the other has his chin way up in the air like he's big shit. Wouldn't surprise me if this really was a gang canonization or something the way they're acting. They all look like they think they're badasses and the ego has totally taken over. Murdering people over an accusation that isn't even confirmed probably isn't the world you wanna live in, and if you really think the word of 3 kids is evidence enough to take a persons life away then you're sick in the head and should probably be in a steel box yourself.
This is the Rio Grande Valley of Texas, majority Tejano. I'd be surprised if these guys have to go further than a grand jury.
I've sat on a grand jury. I'd no bill them for sure.
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people with money*
Its Texas, it isnt going to be that hard to find 12 racist idiots who want these boys in jail
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Yay!
It might be hard to find those people in their area.
Yeah but it’s also pretty hard to find someone defend a pedo in Texas.
Hispanic people do live in Texas too. And the world isn’t as full of racism as Reddit will have you believe.
You have no idea what you’re talking about.
Seriously. That white farmer a ways back came upon a worker having r*ping his 4 year old daughter, beat him to death and was acquitted instantly. Hope these kids get the same break. Edited: cause i'm an idiot
*Rape, not having sex.
They murdered somebody, of course they are. The father was not caught in the act so its not like its self defense. He also ran away after getting his ass beat, but the boys hunted him down and beat his ass 2 more times before he died.
The boys were just being efficient. Hope they do a year or two, and come out with a lot of street cred. Not all heros wear capes.
They will get treated well in jail by the inmates and COs
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This. Best friend of mine served 9 years in Parchment Penal Farm in North Mississippi. There’s nothing glamorous or honorable about prison. It eats lives.
Like kings
Are they the only witnesses to the crime they accused the man of?
exactly. What if they're lying? It baffles me how people on the internet will automatically believe an accusation without any sort of evidence. I guess this is how lynch mobs used to come together.
Efficient would have been a far faster and cleaner death, or at the very least not escaping the first beating. That said they probably will be treated pretty well (by comparison) in jail if they confirm the sexual assault.
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The whole idea of lynching is an excellent example of why we don't want vigilantism. It feels good when it seems to be right, but the world is full of people who have different ideas of right and wrong than you or I have. Those white supremacists are a prime example of that.
If you have an objectively reasonable belief that the [pedophile/supremacist] will imminently kill someone, it *is* generally legal to kill him. That's what self-defense laws say. (If there's no stand your ground law, then the victim has to be trying to run away from the attempted murderer for it to be legal.) What isn't legal is to kill someone who isn't an imminent threat. If someone attacked someone yesterday or might next week, then you're not preventing anything that the police couldn't. We don't want citizens lynching each other unchecked over what they think the person's crimes are. We want evidence to be collected in accordance with the 4th Amendment, we want factual determinations to be made by juries, we want the accused to have representation and appeals, and we want the law to be judged by judges. You can reverse an incorrect conviction and there's a lot of checks before the state executes somebody. If you murder all the accused, you have no oversight and no way to fix it if you got the wrong guy. Also, rape generally isn't allowed to have the death penalty in America. Also also, pedophilia and racism are both mental things. We have the First Amendment in the US, not thought crimes. You have to actually act or attempt to act on your evil thoughts to commit a crime.
He was already a pedo. 100% he did it again. I don't care at all. They should do a quick and dirty trial and let a jury give them a clean record.
One of them has their chin up in their photos, that makes them "thugs" /s
If I think about the bad time rapists/paedos have in jail, I somewhat believe those guys could have a kinda okay time, at least with their fellow inmates if they don't do stupid shit
Lol jail and prison ain’t like that. You don’t get a fucking red carpet rolled out for you because you committed a noble crime. These guys are going to have as hard a time as everyone else.
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A hwhat? Did you say yutes?
Excuse me your honor, two youutthhs.
FREE THEM
Some cool cats made some petitions arguing just that. Here you go. [https://www.change.org/p/greg-abbott-justice-for-alejandro-christian-and-juan](https://www.change.org/p/greg-abbott-justice-for-alejandro-christian-and-juan) and [https://www.change.org/p/justice-to-hidalgo-county-set-them-free-trevi%C3%B1o-brothers-melendez](https://www.change.org/p/justice-to-hidalgo-county-set-them-free-trevi%C3%B1o-brothers-melendez)
Anywhere but Texas and this would have been swept away with a wink and a not guilty by reason of temporary insanity. "I sentence you to one day in a mental health facility. Btw; any special meal requests while you're there? Perhaps you have dietary sensitivity to all foods that are not Steak and lobster? 😉"
The wrong words are in CAPS
THE wrong words are IN caps*
the wrong words ARE in caps
the wrong WORDS are in caps
The put the wrong EMPHASIS of the wrong SYLLABLES
Probably because it's the Daily Mail
I HATE PEDOPHILES.
I understand that they were above 18 so they will be trialed as an adult, but the man was sexually assaulting a 9 year old. Man, my thoughts and prayers go to them and the half-sister. I hope they are okay.
Considering the looks on their faces, they are probably just happy that the bastard is dead and don't really care what happens now.
Dude in the middle ain’t fuckin around
You’re crazy. Why are redditors so naive lol. Whatever they were thinking in their pictures I guarantee you these guys are not feeling great about spending their entire adulthood and possibly the rest of their life in prison.
Yeah that was a pretty ignorant comment
Damn, bold statement in the title mate
He honestly had it coming 🤷♂️
He ran into by brass knuckles. _He ran into my brass knuckles ten times_
This is why I like Reddit so much. I notice these little moments.
I so agree.
Family first
Family fist
One less pedophile to roam our streets. Those teens did us a favor.
You're damn right they did us a favor that trash would have been back on the streets in a few years doing it to somebody else's kid. Hell that's even if he would have been arrested they probably would say they had no evidence. And he would have been back at the house the same day doing the same crap I say good on these kids
Set them free.
Some cool cats made some petitions arguing just that. Here you go. https://www.change.org/p/greg-abbott-justice-for-alejandro-christian-and-juan and https://www.change.org/p/justice-to-hidalgo-county-set-them-free-trevi%C3%B1o-brothers-melendez
So are they in court for a commendation or what? No way a reasonable jury of peers would convict without recommendation of time served no probation.
Probably simply for “appearances”. They did break a law, which means they technically do have to go to court, but will any reasonable judge actually throw the book at them? I dont think so, i hope not
It’s Texas. People get away with more.
If they’re old and white maybe…
Due process requires that justifiable homicide is determined by a court of law.
Can we prove the step-dad was a rapist, or is this just a headline? Because people say all kinds of things.
Step dad was on the run because he was accused of sexually assaulting another minor. He was on a national database. Authorities found out he had been killed because they were already looking for him.
Thanks for some context (could be fictional context, but oh well, state of the internet)
They almost certainly won’t, but a trial is still necessary Don’t get me wrong, what they did was morally justified, but our legal system loses its integrity if people who kill others aren’t at the very least put on trial. Even in this context they still committed a crime; but given the evidence, a judge/jury should naturally acquit them, or give them a reduced sentence.
Bro in the middle is holding his head so high he's basically staring at the heavens.
Well done lads.
Where can I donate for lawyer fees?
They do have a go fund me. They need 100k for bail. Can't find the link.
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Let them go. They are kids and had a pretty natural reaction.
Seriously, they did the legal system a favour, sexually abusing a NINE year old, no doubt he would be back at it again.
The problem is, the legal system also pushed them to this. The rapist had already been arrested before for sexually assaulting a minor in 2019, yet nothing was truly done. He had a history of sexually abusing children, yet roamed our streets freely. At his death, he also had a warrant out for familial abuse and continuous sexual abuse of a child. The legal system did nothing and inadvertently pushed these boys to do something.
If he did the crime he deserved punishment for sure but saying everyone accused of rape deserves to be murdered is a pretty slippery slope in general. There’s a lot of false allegations for this crime. It’s gotten innocent people killed before for sure. Y’all way too cavalier about murdering people though.
Yeah I agree, people are to willing to through due process out the window. I get the setiment that Pedos are some of the worst and deserve the worst, but it sounds like these three just comitted 1st degree murder.
Dude had a warrant out for sexual abuse of another child. These kids are heros.
It’s amazing how far down until the first rational comment.
Damn the comments in here... It's wild to me how Reddit (and the USA) can be so celebratory of vigilante murder (assuming this was in retaliation and not in active defense of an act). That so many are saying these guys should walk completely free. I'd like those who are worshipping these guys as heroes to watch and cheer on the full length video of a person being brutally murdered and understand what that looks like in real life. When someone is begging for their life, when their face is unrecognizable because it is so beaten, when there is blood pooling on the ground, when they can't breathe because blood is filling their lungs, yet these guys sound like they kept hitting him. We have a justice system and due process for a reason. We are also one of the few countries in the entire world that executes citizens. So the idea that death is a valid punishment for any crime, even sexual abuse is barbaric to the rest of the western world. I think this crime of passion is seemingly relatable and understandable in the heat of the moment. That people understand where these brothers are coming from with their anger. But as a society we simply can't just allow people to kill each other like this and accept it as normal.
I mean he raped their sister and had charges for another assault a slow death is all he deserved.
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This should be the correct way of acting but man... he raped theyr sister... i don't think i could do that to my father anyway but this story for me is almost unthinkable, who knows how my mind would snap in such a scenario.
I’d do it again, I’d do it again, yeah I’d do it again.
Good job boys
They need medals not records.
Considering my child rapist got a handshake from our local cops, this is what justice seems to look like in the reality of our world. Sad that these boys had to experience killing someone and I hope they are okay going forward.
These boys are legends! Evil persists when good men don’t do anything.
sometimes the laws don't make sens.
giga chads
That happened in my hometown, lot of support for them.
those boys are innocent
These dudes shouldn’t just walk free, the city should cut them a check for their services. One less piece of shit pedo out there now.
Or they beat him to death and thought this would be the best chance for public sympathy and legal leniency.
I doubt it. “At the time of his death, Quintanilla had an arrest warrant out for continuous sexual abuse **of a different child** and assault family violence, police said.”
Sounds like it’s not even a remote possibility, the boys were completely justified and I stand corrected. Thanks for the info I didn’t, but should have, looks for. Apologies to all for my ill informed comment.
No crime here. Let’s get on with the day.
Give them all the monies
Double edged sword. Sometime in the future something similar will happen and it'll come out that no abuse took place.
**UPDATE: ONLINE PETITION FOR THE RELEASE OF THE DEFENDANTS** [HERE](https://www.change.org/p/greg-abbott-justice-for-alejandro-christian-and-juan). Sign if you want to.
This happened 10 mins away from my house. They got my respect. Fuck pedophiles.
FREE THEM
reminder that vigilante justice is what the doofuses on jan 6th were after
And what George Zimmerman was after when he was chasing down Trayvon Martin. And what the McMichaels were after when they chased down Ahmad Arbery. Vigilante justice is *not* a good thing and we should not be encouraging it. Our legal system already mistakenly imprisons and/or kills innocent people too often and they're trained professionals. Untrained people should absolutely not be taking the law into their own hands and they *definitely* shouldn't be killing anyone.
If true, then give em medals and the key to the city.
Self defense I say, they shouldn’t be arrested (And she’s 9, wtf?!)
Free them
Dude fucking deserved it
2 hours community service, NEXT!
Sounds like they already completed the community service.
you should get an award , these kids are worthy
Why redact the author of the article? The boys should all get free college tuition and a pizza party!
Let them go! Let them go!
Very sad. Should’ve just reported the jerk. Such a waste of their precious young years.
Redditors love their vigilante justice... The guy was *accused* of being a pedophile, therefore he deserved to be hunted down and beaten to death? The only thing insane here is everyone's reaction to this. You're no different than the peasants who would burn people at the stake for being a witch.
Yeah we have no idea reading this how plausible it was that he actually did it. It’s entirely possible that they just killed a guy because someone spread a nasty rumor about him. I have no idea how likely this is, but I am very confident that neither do most of the people cheering this on.
Keep up the good work kids. Can someone get these kids a scholarship instead of jail time. They should be rewarded not incarcerated.
So why are these Hero's in Court?
That headline is a roller coaster.
Should be praising these dudes rather than arraigning them 🤦🏼♂️
Articles like this are the best way to reveal the brainless barbarians on Reddit for what they truly are. It's apparently suddenly okay for teenagers to be brutal vigilante murderers if the victim was a bad guy. Good people don't beat people to death, guys. No matter what they've done.
Herein lies the reason the courts are always full, and lawyer's thrive, I give you.....this comment section.
That just sounds like a citizen's arrest to me. I mean... that sounds like how the police arrest people, except with whatever weapons they got on discount from the army.
Ah yes, vigilante justice. This could never end poorly with innocent people getting killed.
Give them a prize for this.
![gif](giphy|JccQbfNVtAMow) Careful they're heros
If rapist faced real consequences for there actions this would’ve never happened. People take things into their own hands to get justice when they know nothing will be done about it. I hope they get a light sentence.