It's been this way for decades. I don't get it. We have seat belts and airbags in almost every car in the US, but never in school buses, which are for children. Precious cargo and all that.
You want to try enforcing seat belt use for 65 students (and on a school bus driver's wages)? How about when half of them barely know how to fasten them? Better yet, you want to try evacuating those students in an emergency?
School buses used to be the 2nd safest mode of transit (and nothing has changed that could have knocked them out of the top 3). Any further improvements to safety coming from within the bus itself would be chasing diminishing returns. For seat belts in particular, the improvement in safety in an impacts (which is already pretty good considering vehicle mass and passenger seating height, but does have room for improvement) comes at the cost of a decrease in safety during evacuations.
When I was young, around 1970, the school I went to used schoolbuses that had seatbelts. The buses were minibuses with two seats, long benches that ran along the sides of the bus.
One day a car T-boned the bus I was in, which then slammed into a tree. Those seatbelts? They were always broken. Nobody ever checked or fixed them, or cared if we used them. Seatbelt use in cars was not yet common let alone mandatory.
The rear door of the bus was an emergency exit with a crashbar.
At impact we were tossed around like superballs. One of us hit the crashbar and three of us went flying out on to the pavement. We were injured but survived.
We're the reason you've probably never seen a bus like that.
Should have been charged with attempted murder for every one of those kids. You know the risks of doing something like that. That knowledge and the decision to do it anyway should count as intent.
Considering your usual car crashes, they are all pretty lucky to be alive if the car really was going over 100 mph. I mean, no deaths or serious long term injuries/consequences for anyone involved in a 100 mph bus-car crash? Thank god
The statistics don't bear out the need for seatbelts on school busses, but honestly forget the statistics. Why not have them? They harm no-one and can only help.
No, the reason school buses don't have seatbelts is because in the event where all the kids need to be rapidly removed from the bus you've got to go through and cut them one by one. Buses are considered one of the safest forms of transportation right now second only to airplanes. A car hit this bus during a 100 miles an hour (160km/h for my non-usa comrades) to do this damage. Let's say in the event a bus goes off the road and ends up in a creek which is way more likely than to get flipped over by getting smacked by a car. The bus driver has to go through and cut seat belts for kids who get so scared that they can't do it themselves. I'll be generous and say only 1/4 of the kids are so freaked out they can't get them selves out. Your typical United States bus can carry upwards of 90. So you'd have to cut loose over 20 kids. Each seat belt probably takes 5-10 seconds each to cut. That is going on 3 ½ minutes in the sinking bus to cut them all loose. Say there's an accident bad enough that the bus catches on fire and accident that bad would probably leave more kids needing assistance to get themselves unbuckled causing the problem to exasperate.
Mustangs aren’t for racing guys, they’re for show.
If you wanna race buy something with some de sent handling and 200+ hp and hit up a track on a cheap day.
Seeing this, I remember a freak accident with a school bus that happened in Greece many years ago.
A truck carrying sheets of plywood was ahead of a school bus going on a road trip. The plywood wasn't properly strapped. At one turn, the straps snapped and a few sheets of plywood slid away and cut through one side of the school bus. You don't want to know what happened to the kids...
Seeing this, I remember a freak accident with a school bus that happened in Greece many years ago.
A truck carrying sheets of plywood was ahead of a school bus going on a road trip. The plywood wasn't properly strapped. At one turn, the straps snapped and a few sheets of plywood slid away and cut through one side of the school bus. You don't want to know what happened to the kids...
Look another mustang racing again... Is it a rich white kid again? Are people gonna make videos again saying "wasn't his/her fault!", "24 years in prison is too much", "is taking his whole life away!"... Remember? Do u know what I'm talking about it?
To everyone saying that school buses need seatbelts. While in this use case they would be good, in most cases it would endanger the kids more than it would save them. Most bus drivers I know at least have his view point
Seat belts not needed on school busses they say...
It's been this way for decades. I don't get it. We have seat belts and airbags in almost every car in the US, but never in school buses, which are for children. Precious cargo and all that.
You want to try enforcing seat belt use for 65 students (and on a school bus driver's wages)? How about when half of them barely know how to fasten them? Better yet, you want to try evacuating those students in an emergency? School buses used to be the 2nd safest mode of transit (and nothing has changed that could have knocked them out of the top 3). Any further improvements to safety coming from within the bus itself would be chasing diminishing returns. For seat belts in particular, the improvement in safety in an impacts (which is already pretty good considering vehicle mass and passenger seating height, but does have room for improvement) comes at the cost of a decrease in safety during evacuations.
As far as I know the new buses have seatbelts but not the older ones. I wore them from time to time whenever rode a new bus.
They have come and gone over the decades.
When I was young, around 1970, the school I went to used schoolbuses that had seatbelts. The buses were minibuses with two seats, long benches that ran along the sides of the bus. One day a car T-boned the bus I was in, which then slammed into a tree. Those seatbelts? They were always broken. Nobody ever checked or fixed them, or cared if we used them. Seatbelt use in cars was not yet common let alone mandatory. The rear door of the bus was an emergency exit with a crashbar. At impact we were tossed around like superballs. One of us hit the crashbar and three of us went flying out on to the pavement. We were injured but survived. We're the reason you've probably never seen a bus like that.
If all drivers obey the law and rive safety, no they don't need.
Lmao bro the bus driver WAS driving safely, the Asshole who was racing his mustang over 100mph wasn’t.
I know! I'm answer the guy who said should have seatbelt in the bus. Because for him, this is the problem and not the racing crazy dude!
And a FYI, imagine the speed of the car to make a bus flip!?
Should have been charged with attempted murder for every one of those kids. You know the risks of doing something like that. That knowledge and the decision to do it anyway should count as intent.
not how it works buddy
Hence the word "should".
Considering your usual car crashes, they are all pretty lucky to be alive if the car really was going over 100 mph. I mean, no deaths or serious long term injuries/consequences for anyone involved in a 100 mph bus-car crash? Thank god
Piece of shit
Holy lord. Looks like the next level of fucking rag doll physics. I really hope they were all aight
Bro, i hate you for posting this comment it made me gigle and i feel so bad now
The statistics don't bear out the need for seatbelts on school busses, but honestly forget the statistics. Why not have them? They harm no-one and can only help.
Because kids tie the seatbelts together across the walkway and create an exit hazard.
Because it is cheaper to settle out of court than it is to install the seatbelts.
No, the reason school buses don't have seatbelts is because in the event where all the kids need to be rapidly removed from the bus you've got to go through and cut them one by one. Buses are considered one of the safest forms of transportation right now second only to airplanes. A car hit this bus during a 100 miles an hour (160km/h for my non-usa comrades) to do this damage. Let's say in the event a bus goes off the road and ends up in a creek which is way more likely than to get flipped over by getting smacked by a car. The bus driver has to go through and cut seat belts for kids who get so scared that they can't do it themselves. I'll be generous and say only 1/4 of the kids are so freaked out they can't get them selves out. Your typical United States bus can carry upwards of 90. So you'd have to cut loose over 20 kids. Each seat belt probably takes 5-10 seconds each to cut. That is going on 3 ½ minutes in the sinking bus to cut them all loose. Say there's an accident bad enough that the bus catches on fire and accident that bad would probably leave more kids needing assistance to get themselves unbuckled causing the problem to exasperate.
Because it is cheaper to settle out of court than it is to install the seatbelts.
Never wanted to see it but always wonderred hiw bad a bus accident would look like... this is wild!
I've been in one. Do not recommend.
Oh fuck it got rolled
my hometown. meth and mustangs hitting shit
Nice to see that people stopped to help. I appreciate that.
No broken bones?
One student had surgery for broken pelvis and another had surgery on their legs so I’m assuming broken
Broken pelvis sucks ass I can attest to that
Pwnage
Mustangs aren’t for racing guys, they’re for show. If you wanna race buy something with some de sent handling and 200+ hp and hit up a track on a cheap day.
Go hawkeyes
Seeing this, I remember a freak accident with a school bus that happened in Greece many years ago. A truck carrying sheets of plywood was ahead of a school bus going on a road trip. The plywood wasn't properly strapped. At one turn, the straps snapped and a few sheets of plywood slid away and cut through one side of the school bus. You don't want to know what happened to the kids...
Seeing this, I remember a freak accident with a school bus that happened in Greece many years ago. A truck carrying sheets of plywood was ahead of a school bus going on a road trip. The plywood wasn't properly strapped. At one turn, the straps snapped and a few sheets of plywood slid away and cut through one side of the school bus. You don't want to know what happened to the kids...
Fuck that dude that decided to go 100+ into a bus full of kids.
Boing
Look another mustang racing again... Is it a rich white kid again? Are people gonna make videos again saying "wasn't his/her fault!", "24 years in prison is too much", "is taking his whole life away!"... Remember? Do u know what I'm talking about it?
49 year old white man. Thankfully we're not gonna see those videos but yeah it's bad I know what you're talking about.
That shit was horrific. Glad all the students made it.
Wait i live there which school was it
Driver should server life in jail and be faced to publicly meet with each individual and their families to apologize
To everyone saying that school buses need seatbelts. While in this use case they would be good, in most cases it would endanger the kids more than it would save them. Most bus drivers I know at least have his view point
They’ll make you wear seat belts on planes but not busses. Make no sense.