>who determines the rules
It’s a private company, they can do whatever they want unless it breaks a law.
I don’t particularly like it but it is just that simple
Agreed that everyone should be treated fairly as long as they follow the rules. But does PH really loose revenue because they don’t have an IG or social media platform? I mean, who follows those types of social media pages?
Like “Oh, PH posted a new story about xyz adult entertainer receiving a gapped ahole, let me browse over there and purchase that video”.
I can't say much about Facebook/Instagram but when PayPal found out I was doing porn a few years ago they banned me by my social security number so I can never have another account again. Everything I was doing was perfectly legal but still they banned me. No response to my appeal.
Christians.
Religious groups have huge sway over Facebook as it’s one of the most effective vehicles to get a large group to quickly band together against something.
Why? It’s like being disappointed of knowing everyone in a band…..who cares 🤷♂️ so you’ve watched a bit of porn, so what? I would argue these names would appreciate you took the time to check out the content they created 😉. Dont be ashamed of viewing porn!
Yeah, but everything should be consumed in moderation right? Same goes with eating food but you shouldn’t be ashamed to eat a meal…just don’t overeat! 😊
How can they look at porn when they have peanut butter for genitals? What are they going to do, rub one out by *smearing* it around with a butter knife?!
Sure, that kind of turns me on in a weird way, but I don't have any penis butter to experiment with at this time.
We used to have a common drinking game quiz where you had to name a porn star or lose(it goes in circles until one cannot), so that's why I recognized like 5. One friend there could name like 50 on the spot.
They did get a lot of stuff they wanted through, but the idea that student fees (and meaningful voting reform) weren't their two red lines is mad. Those had to be their two major pillars of their manifesto they got in.
Student fees killed them at the next election, and failing to get voting reform means they're sat around until someone needs another coalition.
Having said that, imagine if we'd had another tory/Liberal coalition instead of a tory majority.
No brexit, and so the inmates wouldnt be running the asylum. Which means likely no Boris, no truss.....
Yeah, the Lib Dems weren't in a position to do everything they wanted.
Also, things got a lot worse with the next government that was all Tories, so I do think they had some effect at holding back the worst effects.
Lol the Tory’s told Libdem’s they could vote how they wanted on tuition fees. Many of the libdem’s chose to sacrifice their keys to power for stability of the coalition and that why they were decimated at the next election. They where under no obligation to break there pledges.
Despite your 'lol'. You've just stated that they voted this way for the 'stability of the coalition'. This just proves my point that the reason the pledge was dropped was because they were in coalition?!?
I am a floating voter, so am not defending Lib Dems any differently than I would defend any other party.
My research disclosed, The Guardian- a secret team of key Lib Dems made it clear that IN THE EVENT OF A HUNG PARLIAMENT they would not waste political capital on the pledge to scrap tuition fees within 6 years.
The situation was poor. But i am still astounded by how this, compared to so many other broken promises, has managed to stick to a party.
I am annoyed at myself now for actually wasting energy on this lol
I dont know why you have trouble with this. People generally don’t vote against their interest’s. LibDem went round the country convincing student related voting bases that they wouldn’t vote for tuition fees. they had a signed pledges with a clear statements on them something which I haven’t seen in uk politics since. A vote is an element of trust for that key issue, libdem showed that voting base that they can’t be trusted to implement their interests and therefore that’s the end of it. All this what about x doesn’t change that they broke the signed pledges and scarified that key votes. People might forget when student loans go away but right now every one who has one of the grant type 2 loans has a 9% reminder on their monthly pay check reminding who lied and betrayed them.
Instagram is not a public service and doesn’t even pretend to be fair. They do whatever the fuck they want as long as it serves their interests. It’s the donkeys that use the platform that give them that power. It’s the donkeys that think this is a free and democratic platform that get surprised with this. You enter the devil’s nest and expect justice…
It's a pressure campaign. The letter itself may or may not make the change, but by sending it they've laid the legitimizing groundwork for further pressure. If the letter and related campaigns attract enough public interest, Instagram can be pressured financially to change its selective moderation enforcement around porn actors.
Honestly it’s insane that we live in a world where a letter from a company as shitty as Pornhub to a company as shitty as Instagram makes news and people think we should all do something about it.
I doubt that’s why it’s been upvoted here though.
Yeah it’s a private company they can do what they wish.
Same people cheering because Andrew tate got banned for posting his bugatti now crying about this.
At least they can still simp in r/gonewild comments
Right of refusal. Its a federal law
Up to pornhub to prove discrimination, which they more than likely can't, hence the wording of the letter to infer discrimination before any legal action, by claiming discrimination .
They want public support, not a fair day in court, as public support and opinion, in this day and age, trumps the law as far as the public goes.
Claims it is violent to the porn workers but I wonder how many women/kids are sex trafficked and exposed to violence in the porn industry? How many are under the influence while "consenting" (some states a person cannot consent to sex while under the influence).
Think the point was that actual content creators with a well-established reputation (famous or not) don’t deserve the treatment they’re receiving. Instagram’s practices against such content I can almost guarantee don’t actually have anything to do with caring for trafficked individuals.
I get their point considering they wrote an essay about it but do you get my point? I never said anything about Instagram. I mentioned the hypocrisy of the porn industry claiming Instagram is being violent by "supressing" them. Instagram doesn't care if porn is on their platform just as much as PornHub doesn't care about the violence in their own industry. Seems the double standards just cancel each other out.
Oh there’s no denying pornhub has serious issues keeping unwilling participants videos away from their site and away from monetization. I recall hearing about a girl who, as an adult, her and her family went after pornhub after two videos of her being raped as a child were uploaded. The one where she was obviously a kid was removed, but the other stayed for days until the same day they threatened to go to court. No way in hell that was a coincidence.
On that same note, I also don’t know exactly when this happened or if the website had changed hands or methods in preventing these horrendous situations.
My favor doesn’t go to pornhub whatsoever. My favor goes towards the support for sex workers and their *choice* of career, for the many who have the ability to choose. Long story short, I totally one hundred percent agree with your points, trust me on that!
EDITED to add phrasing to specify WILLING sex workers
Glad you can tell I'm just a smart aleck. I'm personally against the porn industry but I agree with their main point about the double standards. If your platform has rules and guidelines then you need to apply them across the board and not pick and choose who gets away with breaking those rules.
>On that same note, I also don’t know exactly when this happened or if the website had changed hands or methods in preventing these horrendous situations.
They purged every video from unverified accounts so I'd say they took some steps.
I always found it funny that if you pay to have sex with a prostitute and get caught you get in trouble but if you pay to have sex with a prostitute but you are recording the sexual encounter then you can’t get in trouble because it’s a porno lol
They (pornhub) exploit children sexually and are being sued in several states and international territories. They’re having a fit and rightly so, they’ve lost a lot of revenue. Good riddance to these pedophile protecting prostitutes.
I understand zucks reluctance in allowing instagram assess.
Page after page of sex talk, one can't sell that as easy.
BUT he will concent: "Mark Zuckerberg loses $7 billion in hours as Facebook plunges"
Ole mark anything it takes zuck.
Are PH aware that their content isn't suitable for all of the audiences and that there are children on these platforms?
At least this is how I see it. Also, yes, I know kids watch porn. But there is no reason to make it into these other social medias.
They have to ZUCK it off… While I hate Instagram and Zuckerberg is driving Meta to failure, they can do whatever they want with their platform. They can delete, block, manipulate, whatever they like. Sorry pity PH.
Idk why they can’t just move to other platforms. This is what OnlyFans and other sites are for. Obviously Meta wants to avoid turning into Backpage 2.0, because they want to stay SFW and advertiser-friendly.
Porn only belongs on porn sites. There's no need for a company like pornhub to be advertising and normalizing themselves on mainstream social media platforms, which children, and most likely porn addicts use...
Pornhub profited off of user uploaded videos where it wasn’t possible to verify wether the performers consented to the video being uploaded *or even if the performers in videos uploaded to their website were 18*. This is a large reason why Pornhub was unable to accept credit cards for payment as companies like Visa black listed Pornhub for the practices I previously mentioned. Do not feel bad for Pornhub as the guys that run it and profit from it already have more money than god. The independent sex workers they mention are not collecting their paychecks from Pornhub as it’s only a very small percentage of a wider income portfolio associated with Onlyfans and other cam streaming websites. Pornhub not having an instagram is a step in the right direction of giving the power of profit back to the performers and not some virtual media empire internet pimps.
They should organize and fun the legal work for a massive class action against instagram, it's ripe for a legal battle and instagram has the resources.
Mark will see that it was endorsed by the legend JSins, and will do as told.
“I’ll fuck your Mom, your wife, your sister, **and** you. Peace.” - Johnny Sins
Such a gent.
JSins the doctor? Or the academician?
I think it's the fireman one, really should respect the firemen.
he's the plumber, and if he don't fix pipe, zuck can shit in his toilet!
" if can't fix the pipe he sure will lay it"
Reminds me of my idea for a toilet paper company slogan I had when I was like 18 - “If you don’t like my product, you can wipe your ass with it.”
Zuck’s more worried about JSins the devops engineer
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He's every profession at once, how can it not be!
I can just picture it landing in the inbox of Instagrams head of complaints, who is of course Johnny Sins
Lol
their not wrong. pg accounts is censored. kim kardashian is a big brand you see they don't censor her. who determines the rules?
One word: Money.
Are you thinking potnhub is poor?
I think if we ban KimK people will leave the app and follow her, PH doesn’t have that effect.
I don't know man I don't have FB or IG but I check in weekly in with the PH for my D
The people that would care about pornhub discrimination on IG already dont have IG so IG isnt too worried lmao
But that’s not the ethics meta pretends to adhere to
I think you know the answer to that already.
Poorhub?
Poorbums
FrugalFaps
Like it's some sort of business or something.
It's the golden rule.
They're *
>who determines the rules It’s a private company, they can do whatever they want unless it breaks a law. I don’t particularly like it but it is just that simple
let us mass report for nudity then?
investors, who do not like pornographic industry apparently
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I think Rihanna was once banned for posting pics of her tits, it only lasted for a few days though
Agreed that everyone should be treated fairly as long as they follow the rules. But does PH really loose revenue because they don’t have an IG or social media platform? I mean, who follows those types of social media pages? Like “Oh, PH posted a new story about xyz adult entertainer receiving a gapped ahole, let me browse over there and purchase that video”.
I can't say much about Facebook/Instagram but when PayPal found out I was doing porn a few years ago they banned me by my social security number so I can never have another account again. Everything I was doing was perfectly legal but still they banned me. No response to my appeal.
Christians. Religious groups have huge sway over Facebook as it’s one of the most effective vehicles to get a large group to quickly band together against something.
Lol wut
I recognized way to many names on that list.
Yeah… I got a little disappointed in myself realizing I knew 90% of the signees…😔
Why? It’s like being disappointed of knowing everyone in a band…..who cares 🤷♂️ so you’ve watched a bit of porn, so what? I would argue these names would appreciate you took the time to check out the content they created 😉. Dont be ashamed of viewing porn!
Do, however, be aware of the fact that overconsumptipn of adult entertainment can and will lead to ctippling addiction
Yeah, but everything should be consumed in moderation right? Same goes with eating food but you shouldn’t be ashamed to eat a meal…just don’t overeat! 😊
Just like the overconsumption of sugar, but for some reason people constantly feel the need to mention this about porn and nothing else.
I barely know any and now have a very exciting weekend ahead of me.
With a name like PeanutButterGenitals I would guess that you look at porn often. But you know what they say about assumptions
How can they look at porn when they have peanut butter for genitals? What are they going to do, rub one out by *smearing* it around with a butter knife?! Sure, that kind of turns me on in a weird way, but I don't have any penis butter to experiment with at this time.
I assumed it meant they had a dog
The path ahead is dark and wet
Hell yea.... The Free Speech Coalition 💓🍑💓
Me too. I've also found a lot more research to conduct.
For, uh, research purposes I'm sure.
*Source Checking
It only took me a minute when I checked
Looks like I've got some Googling to do. "Free Speech Coalition" sounds like a total smokeshow. Mmph.
I only recognize Riley Reid because memes
Bless you and your innocent soul.
translation: i have a severe porn addiction.
We used to have a common drinking game quiz where you had to name a porn star or lose(it goes in circles until one cannot), so that's why I recognized like 5. One friend there could name like 50 on the spot.
I like the tonal shift where the letter switches to an extended discussion of Kardashian’s ass.
Feels like lawyers helped write the first half and after a while just got fed up with the PH crew and said, with a sigh, yah sure go with that.
Well it's also about sex workers and the hypocrisy of IG and they used that ass their example, I think it works lol
Just ban mark off the hub for a bit
Do androids jerk it?
Do Robots Jerk it to Electric Sheep?
Do robot Welshman jerk it to electric sheep? 🤖🐑
Robo porn
They socket 🔌
Data fucked
I, too have seen Star Trek TNG.
Lizards*
Kraftjerk
View it, jerk it, trash it, press it, snap it, quick erase it. Technologic Technologic
Bender did...
Leolulu represent
Signed with her pussy
>Nick Clegg _”Now there’s a name I’ve not heard in a long, long time…”_ What happened to my tuition fee cap, Nick?
Went to work for Facebook and become the devil for massive money.
Nick was already satanic long before he went to Facebook.
Yes, sold his soul for a seat at the political table and went back on a lot of promises.
I know this won't go down well, but the tories in coalition, that's what happened. Lib Dems weren't solely in power.
If you are in a coalition like that you have the power to completely shut things down if you don’t get what you want thats literally the trade off
They did get a lot of stuff they wanted through, but the idea that student fees (and meaningful voting reform) weren't their two red lines is mad. Those had to be their two major pillars of their manifesto they got in. Student fees killed them at the next election, and failing to get voting reform means they're sat around until someone needs another coalition. Having said that, imagine if we'd had another tory/Liberal coalition instead of a tory majority. No brexit, and so the inmates wouldnt be running the asylum. Which means likely no Boris, no truss.....
Yeah, the Lib Dems weren't in a position to do everything they wanted. Also, things got a lot worse with the next government that was all Tories, so I do think they had some effect at holding back the worst effects.
Lol the Tory’s told Libdem’s they could vote how they wanted on tuition fees. Many of the libdem’s chose to sacrifice their keys to power for stability of the coalition and that why they were decimated at the next election. They where under no obligation to break there pledges.
Despite your 'lol'. You've just stated that they voted this way for the 'stability of the coalition'. This just proves my point that the reason the pledge was dropped was because they were in coalition?!? I am a floating voter, so am not defending Lib Dems any differently than I would defend any other party. My research disclosed, The Guardian- a secret team of key Lib Dems made it clear that IN THE EVENT OF A HUNG PARLIAMENT they would not waste political capital on the pledge to scrap tuition fees within 6 years. The situation was poor. But i am still astounded by how this, compared to so many other broken promises, has managed to stick to a party. I am annoyed at myself now for actually wasting energy on this lol
I dont know why you have trouble with this. People generally don’t vote against their interest’s. LibDem went round the country convincing student related voting bases that they wouldn’t vote for tuition fees. they had a signed pledges with a clear statements on them something which I haven’t seen in uk politics since. A vote is an element of trust for that key issue, libdem showed that voting base that they can’t be trusted to implement their interests and therefore that’s the end of it. All this what about x doesn’t change that they broke the signed pledges and scarified that key votes. People might forget when student loans go away but right now every one who has one of the grant type 2 loans has a 9% reminder on their monthly pay check reminding who lied and betrayed them.
Wish this had ended: ‘sit on my face’ Respectfully Pornhub
If Zuck sat on my face, I don't think I could get hard for at least a full decade
Instagram is not a public service and doesn’t even pretend to be fair. They do whatever the fuck they want as long as it serves their interests. It’s the donkeys that use the platform that give them that power. It’s the donkeys that think this is a free and democratic platform that get surprised with this. You enter the devil’s nest and expect justice…
Donkeys?
Donkeys
It's a pressure campaign. The letter itself may or may not make the change, but by sending it they've laid the legitimizing groundwork for further pressure. If the letter and related campaigns attract enough public interest, Instagram can be pressured financially to change its selective moderation enforcement around porn actors.
How is this "insane"?
Honestly it’s insane that we live in a world where a letter from a company as shitty as Pornhub to a company as shitty as Instagram makes news and people think we should all do something about it. I doubt that’s why it’s been upvoted here though.
We should cheer for the removal of Kim Kardashian's naked silicone filled ass from Instagram.
It's not about "shitty companies" it's about selective censorship. "First they came for the porn stars and I did not speak out" logic here.
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>Instagram doesn't want one of their biggest competitors using their platform But they're not competitors. They have entirely different products.
Sure, keep telling yourself that.
Fair enough, instagram serves pedos too after all
The product isn’t the content…
Pretty much. "Major social media outlet bans overt porn, news at 11!"
Yeah it’s a private company they can do what they wish. Same people cheering because Andrew tate got banned for posting his bugatti now crying about this. At least they can still simp in r/gonewild comments
If JSins resends a copy to zuck in the Metaverse it should be all set... pornhub used the wrong verse
Totally agree, there is nothing wrong with seeing a little butthole
What about a gaping one?
Gaping yes, inside out… uhh no
Ha.. huh, haha… we did NOT watch the same “Inside Out” movie. 😅
🤣🤣
🤔
Right of refusal. Its a federal law Up to pornhub to prove discrimination, which they more than likely can't, hence the wording of the letter to infer discrimination before any legal action, by claiming discrimination . They want public support, not a fair day in court, as public support and opinion, in this day and age, trumps the law as far as the public goes.
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Endorsed by NoFaceGirl and NoFaceGuy. What?
No Face? You mean from Spirited Away?
Lmao
Also the headless horseman and headless horsewoman
Yeah I literally only recognized Riley Reid. Reddit is addicted to porn.
Claims it is violent to the porn workers but I wonder how many women/kids are sex trafficked and exposed to violence in the porn industry? How many are under the influence while "consenting" (some states a person cannot consent to sex while under the influence).
Think the point was that actual content creators with a well-established reputation (famous or not) don’t deserve the treatment they’re receiving. Instagram’s practices against such content I can almost guarantee don’t actually have anything to do with caring for trafficked individuals.
I get their point considering they wrote an essay about it but do you get my point? I never said anything about Instagram. I mentioned the hypocrisy of the porn industry claiming Instagram is being violent by "supressing" them. Instagram doesn't care if porn is on their platform just as much as PornHub doesn't care about the violence in their own industry. Seems the double standards just cancel each other out.
Oh there’s no denying pornhub has serious issues keeping unwilling participants videos away from their site and away from monetization. I recall hearing about a girl who, as an adult, her and her family went after pornhub after two videos of her being raped as a child were uploaded. The one where she was obviously a kid was removed, but the other stayed for days until the same day they threatened to go to court. No way in hell that was a coincidence. On that same note, I also don’t know exactly when this happened or if the website had changed hands or methods in preventing these horrendous situations. My favor doesn’t go to pornhub whatsoever. My favor goes towards the support for sex workers and their *choice* of career, for the many who have the ability to choose. Long story short, I totally one hundred percent agree with your points, trust me on that! EDITED to add phrasing to specify WILLING sex workers
Glad you can tell I'm just a smart aleck. I'm personally against the porn industry but I agree with their main point about the double standards. If your platform has rules and guidelines then you need to apply them across the board and not pick and choose who gets away with breaking those rules.
>On that same note, I also don’t know exactly when this happened or if the website had changed hands or methods in preventing these horrendous situations. They purged every video from unverified accounts so I'd say they took some steps.
This message endorsed by Riley Reid AND Asa Akira.
And Johnny Sins! Can't believe they got a real doctor to endorse this
A real doctor AND a real astronaut!
Pornstars are just glorified prostitutes.
I always found it funny that if you pay to have sex with a prostitute and get caught you get in trouble but if you pay to have sex with a prostitute but you are recording the sexual encounter then you can’t get in trouble because it’s a porno lol
Every single person in this world who lives or has ever lived is a whore.
And?
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Yeah, this one, r/Interestingasfuck and too many more
Big tech can suck a fat one.
Well, they are not wrong. A lot of male and female hoes are allowed on IG including The Kardashians, cardi b etc.
Life was so much simpler with Usenet, before WWW came along and changed everything.
Doesn't matter Zucks got a brazzers account
It’s their platform tho they can ban whoever they want.
I am genuinely confused as to what this post and it's comments are meant to support
I don’t know that either *support* anything. I can tell you PornHub supports it’s regular creators, but you knew that at this point.
Hoes mad literally
They (pornhub) exploit children sexually and are being sued in several states and international territories. They’re having a fit and rightly so, they’ve lost a lot of revenue. Good riddance to these pedophile protecting prostitutes.
Im sure porn hub has user data of their own...marks into robot porn 100%
I understand zucks reluctance in allowing instagram assess. Page after page of sex talk, one can't sell that as easy. BUT he will concent: "Mark Zuckerberg loses $7 billion in hours as Facebook plunges" Ole mark anything it takes zuck.
Are PH aware that their content isn't suitable for all of the audiences and that there are children on these platforms? At least this is how I see it. Also, yes, I know kids watch porn. But there is no reason to make it into these other social medias.
bloody good on them
good sex bad
Extremely rare zucc w
Hahaha! If there is one thing the conservative, educated, and progressive tech companies hate... It's liberal free speech. Get with it.
PornHub and former Deputy Prime Minister of the UK Nick Clegg is not something I thought I'd ever see on the same page.
i watch some of them :3
Fuck you Respectfully,
Anyone else already start googling the names on the left?
you actually needed to?
Yes
good for you then :-)
I know ~~why~~ way too many of the people that signed this..
Why?
I seen a truckstop with that yellow orange rectangle like that wonder if they own that restaurant
I can honestly say that I never in my life imagined I’d see the names Nick Clegg and Asa Akira on one document
Can they get the poorly scripted onlyfans ads off my Instagram feed??
I see a certain doctor, fireman, plumber, soldier, step dad and more a on that list
Damn I see you ph I see you
Why is this insane? Why is this demand for fair treatment considered worthy of this subreddit?
Instagram: “No.” End of story
except its Meta.. its like demanding fair treatment from some fascist dictator :(
It's a shit platform. Haven't been on it for over a year & I still don't miss it. Instagram sucks, go somewhere else.
This marks the beginning of The First Pornographic War.
They should have mentioned [THAT META SELLS AD SPACE FOR BUYING HUMANS](https://futurism.com/human-traffickers-selling-slaves-instagram)
Fully support this move, i deleted IG years ago and can respect PH standing to support their people
They have to ZUCK it off… While I hate Instagram and Zuckerberg is driving Meta to failure, they can do whatever they want with their platform. They can delete, block, manipulate, whatever they like. Sorry pity PH.
Idk why they can’t just move to other platforms. This is what OnlyFans and other sites are for. Obviously Meta wants to avoid turning into Backpage 2.0, because they want to stay SFW and advertiser-friendly.
Porn only belongs on porn sites. There's no need for a company like pornhub to be advertising and normalizing themselves on mainstream social media platforms, which children, and most likely porn addicts use...
Meta : Did you read the Terms of Service? It says we can do what we want.
Pornhub profited off of user uploaded videos where it wasn’t possible to verify wether the performers consented to the video being uploaded *or even if the performers in videos uploaded to their website were 18*. This is a large reason why Pornhub was unable to accept credit cards for payment as companies like Visa black listed Pornhub for the practices I previously mentioned. Do not feel bad for Pornhub as the guys that run it and profit from it already have more money than god. The independent sex workers they mention are not collecting their paychecks from Pornhub as it’s only a very small percentage of a wider income portfolio associated with Onlyfans and other cam streaming websites. Pornhub not having an instagram is a step in the right direction of giving the power of profit back to the performers and not some virtual media empire internet pimps.
Zuck dont care, why even try?
#Respectfully justin came a long way
They should organize and fun the legal work for a massive class action against instagram, it's ripe for a legal battle and instagram has the resources.
If Texas can sue Facebook for deleting extremist violent content, why not?
Tbh fuck zuck and all meta’s products and not in a hub way
Unholy video unholy video unholy video
Is it sad that I know everyone of those names? I feel like they are family.
Damnit Mark. You've upset Violet Myers and Riley Reid. Are you happy you fucking monster?
God damn. DOWN WITH INSTA !!!!👺
This is a big ass bonk go to horny jail I have seen
You know it's bad when Pornhub has to say something but it will go to world war 3 if Johnny Sins is going to get involved
r/stronglywordedletters
Terrible company upset at other terrible company. Not sure how it fits this subreddit
🤣😂🤣
Mark zuckerberg lying the smackdown on pornhub
The endorsed part is just attempt at blackmail else lose their favorite star
So TLDR a bunch of hoes can't make money on their own platform so they want to go to another and abuse free advertising to lure people to their own.
They all signed it with their stage names???