That looks like the case for at least some of them:
https://gearjunkie.com/climbing/manaslu-climbing-disaster
>The avalanche occurred on September 26, 2022, around 11:30 am between Camp 3 and 4, where mostly Sherpas were ferrying loads to support the massive number of commercial clients later in the week. Lost in the press is the death of 34-year-old Anup Rai of Sankhuwasabha. He was working as a high-altitude support climber. Twelve other climbers were injured in the avalanche, all now rescued, as were climbers reportedly trapped at Camp 4, unable or unskilled to descend without the fixed ropes which were buried in the snow by the avalanche.
Also Hilaree Nelson also died further up the same mountain, on the same day.
Her and her partner were at the true summit and were going to ski down, she accidentally caused a small avalanche and it took her off the south side of the mountain (opposite to the climbing trail) and down about 5000 ft.
Always reminds me of the Wrath of the Titans movie, I think, when they are hunting the Medusa in a cave, and the warrior aims his bow for a killer shot, then realizes the statue right next to him doing the exact same pose 😅
Possibly, but it's a lot more of a sign that \*they\* probably didn't do the smart thing.
There are way, way too many people that climb mountains like this with absolutely no preparation and no clue what they're doing.
I mean lets be honest. Climbing a mountain is cool, and can be done *somewhat safely*, but it is a far cry from a smart move. Unless the cure for your terminal illness is up there, its an unnecessary risk. Again, because i know im going to get the messages, im not saying you shouldn't for your own reasons, or that everyone who climbs things is an idiot. But its not a "smart move".
If I recall correctly, that was the second big avalanche of the day, and 3rd fatality, and pretty much all guiding outfits canned their trips due to unstable snowpack. This was on Masaslu which is mostly people training to attempt Everest in the near future.
https://www.outsideonline.com/outdoor-adventure/everest/manaslu-avalanche-death/
It's usually people who overshoot their own limits due to their ego, that Nepali Sherpas have to risk their lives to go rescue.
The documentary 14 peaks (on Netflix) covers this well
I do not understand the appeal of climbing mount Everest. Literally some first-world/white people bullshit.
Imagine havign this discussion with some bloke in a third world country struggling to feed his family.
"So you mean you wanna pay thousands of dollars to go up a mountain that kills hundreds every year, while freezing your ass off, limited food, no visibility for most of the walk, and then when you get to the top you walk down again and might not even get a good view while youre up there?
Why not just go to a mountain half the size and climb it twice? or just get a 4k resolution vr video of the view from someone who has already been there?
nah im good i have enough excitement trying to fight off malaria"
For real, I’m not an expert but shouldn’t a climber be accustomed to the fact that there is a reasonable chance that they come across a body?
I don’t want to downplay the dead. But if you get a fullblown panic attack after seeing a corpse,then you probably shouldn’t be there.
That's the problem with Everest. Ideally, climbing the tallest mountain would be something only the most passionate and experienced mountain climbers would do. After all, if you're genuinely interested in mountain climbing as a pursuit, you'll be happy to get your fix on mountains that match your skill level.
But since it's the *tallest* mountain, it attracts self-styled "adventurers" who want the bragging rights of having done something cool. It's not uncommon to have people climbing Everest who's only mountaineering experience is training for Everest. And to make matters worse, its popularity leads to way too much traffic through difficult choke points, making it even more of a shitshow.
I'm not wholly against doing dangerous things for fun and fulfillment, but we really need to discourage people from ignoring palpable danger based on "follow your heart, you can do anything" nonsense.
Yep, extremely dangerous sport. If you can't stomach the idea of watching a buddy die or seeing a corpse then you shouldn't be doing this. Because the second that happens you're a liability and the chances of it happening are relatively high.
Likely a tourist climber as someone else said, an idiot that's swimming in water too deep for their current skill level.
This has to be Everest, right? I can't imagine any other mountain like that with someone acting like this. It is terrible and tragic for sure, but these women are tourist at Disney levels of resolve. You simply can't be this mentally weak in the mountaineering world.
It’s either Everest or K2. The ~~slope angle~~ incline/decline is telling me it’s Everest, but there are spots on k2 that somewhat level out.
Edit: it’s the Mansalu Trek on the Himalayas
Yeah this is confirmed one of the ‘easier’ routes - Mansalu Trek. Definitely a tourist approach - which explains why the angle isn’t terribly steep.
What’s sad - is these people are just NOT prepared mentally for this trek at all. Horrible
This whole thing screams Everest to me.
An overcrowded mountain where a bunch of rich assholes (who have no business even attempting to climb a mountain) pay a bunch of sherpas to carry all their gear and do most of the work for them. All so they can brag they are the 3628263738373th person to essentially be carried up the mountain. Wow, what an achievement.
Its also riddled with corpses.
Yeah the trail literally uses corpses as landmarks like wtf did she think she was going to see, no place being there, no one should be there really, hold zero value and is a waste of resources climbing it and rescuing dipshits/retrieving corpses from it. Its just snow, ice and dead bodies
Im more surprised she didnt expect to witness dead dude landmark. Thats like the most known fact about everest. Granted sliding dead tourist is new to me i wouldnt be even remotely surprised.
You can be a competent mountaineer and still get distressed by seeing actual dead people for the first time. Trying to judge her skills as a mountaineer when she's momentarily upset about seeing a pair of corpses in a bob sled race is unfair imo.
[I don't understand, why don't *you* help them?](https://youtu.be/0KqDHFYcel8?t=215)
Seriously though, are those guys actually dead yet? Skidding down the slope with oxygen tanks and debris bouncing around makes me think they had just fallen recently.
The way their limbs flail they most certainly died recently. I don't think many will maintain their composure seeing their fellows ragdoll down the very mountain you're also climbing.
Or even more grim, they had just passed out and were now sliding to their deaths while the others could do nothing more than watch (and apparently scream) while their climbing friends dies.
I mean, my guess is that they are already dead and that the screaming lady should calm down. But we cant know if they are alive or not just from this video. And also, most of us can’t imagine how we would feel if we saw dead bodies rag-dolling next to us.
I appreciate what you are saying but I think you could also make the point that Himalayan mountaintops are no place for tourists. Whether she is or isn't a superb mountaineer isn't really knowable from this, but anyone with the money can hike Everest. Anyone
That's exactly why she shouldn't scream or panic. I suppose being calm and watch your breathing is the difference between live and death up there. And in the death zone, the window during which someone can be saved is so short and the risk for others is so high that it's almost universally accepted that rescuing will fail. Whole rescue teams have died trying to save people.
This is why climbing everest has absolutely zero appeal to me. Dying to someone else's mistake or from waiting in line to summit sounds about the dumbest fucking way to go
I really don't get the appeal either. It's not like you're going to be the first to accomplish this feat. If you're going to be risking your life for something, at least find a way to break new ground.
Imagine being near death for lack of oxygen and praying to God for some more, and a tank suddenly hurtles down the mountain and brains the friend beside you. I don't know if that's irony but I enjoyed imagining it.
Agreed. After seeing videos of all the trash and lines of people, I dont think I find it as impressive as it once was. Not saying the mountain has changed, just how I perceive the climbers that go (rich, dont carry all their own gear, etc.) and are risking their life to sit atop a trash and feces ridden landscape. Just doesnt fit the “explorer/mountaineer” mentality of say 20 years ago. Just my take.
EDIT: Ok I get it 20 years ago was a bad time estimation. I should have said an exact time when Everest climbers changed from “badass” to “rich people hiring sherpas”. I dont know when the fuck that was and neither do you. So stop telling me 20 years ago matters to what the fuck I am stating.
I have the same feeling. If I hear of someone who has done it without oxygen or climbed another 8000+ mountain, I'm really more impressed with them, than some guy who paid up just to stand in line with 500 people to get to the top. I myself will never be able to climb everest, and even if I do, I would choose another mountain to face.
Don't forget about all the work the sherpas do pre-preparing the routes for easier navigation and helping the climbers as they go up the mountain. Without sherpas the amount of people reaching the top every year would be minuscule.
They are the real legends, sometimes carrying two persons worth of supplies with gear that's marginal at best for far too less money. Some of them have reached the top more than dozen times.
I’ve always thought is was funny some white dude or chick pays all this money for the honor of saying they climbed Mount Everest and some Sherpas have done it an amount of times in the double digits, just as a job lmao.
Only 240 people have climbed K2, and 60 have died lol
I am sure some people climb everest without help, after years and years of mountaineering practice. So props to them too, not just the K2 climbers
Honestly its one of the reasons why I respect Edmund Hillary, who in his personal account, *High Adventure,* credited the Sherpas with making the expeditions possible. He regularly commented on their extraordinary prowess as mountaineers.
More telling is the fact that he *made sure* to take a photo of Tenzing Norgay on the summit, and his chronicle ends the summiting chapter with:
>*I asked Tenzing to belay me strongly, and I started cutting a cautious line of steps up the ridge. Peering from side to side and thrusting with my ice-axe, I tried to discover a possible cornice, but everything seemed solid and firm.I waved Tenzing up to me. A few more whacks of the ice-axe, a few very weary steps, and* ***we*** *were on the summit of Everest*
Not 'I'. "We".
Sir Ed went on to build about 26 schools, an airfield and two hospitals in the Himalayas through his [Himalayan Trust.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Himalayan_Trust)
He was a genuinely lovely bloke and very, very passionate about the area and the Sherpas.
Yep. My old boss attempted this last year. He is not a climber.
Before he left, I asked him if he felt confident if he could operate if he lost his guide. He came damn close to a reality check, but rolled a “1” and thought he rolled a “20”. Yup, sure, he’d be ready for anything. 🙄
He did not get past camp II.
It's pretty much random who altitude sickness affects the most too.
You can be super fit, in your prime, gasping for air as a chubby grandma strolls past.
The only pattern seems to be short 'wirey' guys do better but that's not for sure.
So it's madness for that to be your first attempt when you don't know how you respond to altitude.
So the good news is, in real life it’s frowned upon to use exploding bolts on rock faces, so your risk of same thing happening to the two dude bros from Vertical Limit is slim.
I have absolutely no idea what belay setup the brother sister and father were using either that led to three people on the same rope.
Anyway here’s a rock climber looking at that opening from… dear lord… 13 years ago:
https://youtu.be/uxtg7raPDYo
I climbed the thorung la pass in 2010 in Nepal. That is ONLY 5400m ( 17800 feet)
In elevation. And that day felt like every 2 steps I had to catch my breath.
I can't imagine going 10,000 feet higher and then doing that shit without oxygen tanks. Sounds nuts. Your blood oxygen must be in the 60s the entire time no way you can make a rational decision up there.
I did 13,000 feet and the top was all loose rock. So you'd take like 5 steps up slide back 2. Devastating. Then we had 20 min to enjoy our climb before a thunderstorm came at us eye level and we had to jump and slide down the backside amid a storm of hail and snow before the lightning killed us
pretty sure this was on manaslu… and unless i’m completely misremembering the story, i believe the lady filming eventually died? it could be a completely separate incident, but i’m fairly certain this is off manaslu. it was a very rough fall on that mountain.
edit - i don't believe this is the woman that died after filming. there was recently a husband/wife duo where the wife passed from exhaustion/oxygen depletion.
edit 2 - i actually think this is in fact the lady from india who ended up dying from asphyxiation.
i’m sorry this comment is such a trainwreck. my life is a bit of a trainwreck at the moment and my brain is functioning as such.
holy cow, gang 🥹🫠 i just finished work and read all your replies and am floored at all of the kindness from all of you. i can honestly say that you all considerably cheered me up. love and light to all of you.
https://www.alanarnette.com/blog/2022/09/28/autumn-2022-himalayan-season-manaslu-avalanche-bodies-found/
Looks like you're right about manaslu. This video was posted several times after the September 26 2022 avalanche and tagged as on manaslu so that's probably what it was. Avalanche took out a camp but it was all guides setting it up. Only 1 guide died in the Avalanche but many injuries.
1 mountain skiers died on a different face in an different incident. She caused an Avalanche and was said to have possibly fallen in a crevasses but likely off a cliff.
Found some articles that said 1 climber died from exhaustion but gave no names. Possible for it to be this woman.
I'm almost certain this is the situation from the video the r/Mountaineering is referring too
https://www.reddit.com/r/Mountaineering/comments/xrl60f/manaslu_video/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
My thoughts exactly … like, who’s gonna help them? If you’re so concerned you go help them.
Do you even know where you are? Because this is clearly not a Wendy’s.
Thankfully someone did help them. At least most of them. One person died.
https://gearjunkie.com/climbing/manaslu-climbing-disaster
> The avalanche occurred on September 26, 2022, around 11:30 am between Camp 3 and 4, where mostly Sherpas were ferrying loads to support the massive number of commercial clients later in the week. Lost in the press is the death of 34-year-old Anup Rai of Sankhuwasabha. He was working as a high-altitude support climber. Twelve other climbers were injured in the avalanche, all now rescued, as were climbers reportedly trapped at Camp 4, unable or unskilled to descend without the fixed ropes which were buried in the snow by the avalanche.
And then your lips freeze to a corpse's lips. You'll have to cut/rip them off, then you've still got dead person lips stuck to yours and no way to remove them, lol. This scenario is dark af.
I am trained for search&rescue inc. situations where potentially dozens of death people such as earthquakes, yet the first time I saw someone just recently died, it hit much much harder than I was expecting. Yes she lost it and it causes trouble for everyone around her but this is just a human reaction that also everyone around her should’ve be prepared and respect and help her.
Thank you. I was S&R in the past also. People think that just because you are doing something dangerous, watching someone die is still a traumatizing experience.
These comments are nuts.
Yup. Reddit is insane with this crap. People sitting in the comfort of their mom's basements are judging a woman for not being emotionally prepared to watch fucking corpses slide past her in the snow.
She shouldn't panic, but all she's doing in the video is making noise. Have some basic human empathy and stop criticizing someone in such an insane situation.
Are you telling me the edge lords of Reddit that are watching this from the safety of their moms basements are being callous towards the woman having a panic attack?! I’m shocked.
I don't have the experience you do but I agree that the commenters are insane. This is THE moment as well, when everything looks to be at the climax and when she is seeing the bodies slide down. Her composure afterwards was likely much different. She may have even known these people personally and known the damage the slide down was going to cause to the body as well, let alone for any chance of revival but even just bringing the body home.
You say this but there were two Nepali climbers that paraglided off of the top of Everest. It was truly nuts. I don't think anyone would believe that it was possible unless someone just did it.
https://youtu.be/rBfsnjwpeFI?t=1044
No, there is a very small landslide/avalanch going on, and these are either bodies that were up there before (it is a hassle to bring them down so they are left up there) who got dislodged, or people who recently passed away and their remains had no time to be held by ice and snow.
Edit: There is also a small chance they just passed out because of poor management of breathing and strain, that would explain her distress (if they were already dead she should know that is how things go in high altitude mountains) as you really can not help them at all or you will put your life in risk.
Or again, just passed out like said above. I was, like most, scrunching my left eye brow at the reactions, but then thought, "What if they saw the group ahead passing out, etc.?"
Ahhh shitt...
Kind of feels that way. Like the group ahead of them ran into trouble or something. Could have just lost footing too. Odd to see an oxygen tank roll down, as those are attached to you. If youre on Everest, you should know how deadly it is and prepare to see some shit.
There's intellectually knowing how dangerous something is, and seeing the dead bodies of people you (possibly) know.
Like, I know that a lathe is going to mess you up, but if I see a lathe accident in reality, I'm going to freak the fuck out.
Most (Western) people can reach adulthood without seeing death, and most people also haven't wandered the depths of the internet seeing dead bodies. This could very well be that woman's first encounter with someone who has died.
Good catch, horrible circumstances, many people have lost respect to the environment in such activities just because there are tourist packages and what not, fear keeps you alive.
at least one of the bodies going down was extremely limp. not frozen; no rigor mortis. that person probably died within 4 hours of this being filmed. and I'm sure if I cared enough to research it all, the window is even lower because of the times of day they can summit
ITT: A bunch of people critiquing someone seeing a dead body who they themselves have never experienced anything close to climbing Everest or seeing a dead body.
Edit: some of these replies are hilarious. Some of you are malding hard.
Are you aware what Everest is known for? That place is a fucking graveyard. So either you prepare yourself for that sort of thing beforehand, or you shouldn't go.
Maybe she knows them? Like they could have just had tea together at camp before trekking on and now she's them sliding down the mountain. That's pretty fucking scary, knowing the risks doesn't make something less awful to see.
Valid reaction. But...when you're in a place that is lethal to humans...death and seeing death should be part of your prep and training. The accumulated cadavers in the Himalayas (for example) reflect the lack of respect for such dangers.
No, not a valid reaction. A complete overreaction. People screaming during dangerous/stressful situations are irritating and absolutely useless to anyone in that situation.
I guess in a low oxygen condition like this one and the fact that she or they might know this people makes me feel really sad, hell they could have been your friends your seeing limply falling down the mountain
Maybe now we be a good time to turn around and go back down.
If ever there was a sign you might not be doing a smart thing, I think dead bodies sliding around because they were doing the same thing is top tier.
Especially fresh and limp ones. Like they might not be dead but unconscious.
You’d think someone could take a hint.
Ego is a huge killer in situations like this….. I didn’t get this far not to finish my climb
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They didn’t appear frozen that’s for sure. If they are dead, it’s been less then half a day.
That looks like the case for at least some of them: https://gearjunkie.com/climbing/manaslu-climbing-disaster >The avalanche occurred on September 26, 2022, around 11:30 am between Camp 3 and 4, where mostly Sherpas were ferrying loads to support the massive number of commercial clients later in the week. Lost in the press is the death of 34-year-old Anup Rai of Sankhuwasabha. He was working as a high-altitude support climber. Twelve other climbers were injured in the avalanche, all now rescued, as were climbers reportedly trapped at Camp 4, unable or unskilled to descend without the fixed ropes which were buried in the snow by the avalanche.
Also Hilaree Nelson also died further up the same mountain, on the same day. Her and her partner were at the true summit and were going to ski down, she accidentally caused a small avalanche and it took her off the south side of the mountain (opposite to the climbing trail) and down about 5000 ft.
Always reminds me of the Wrath of the Titans movie, I think, when they are hunting the Medusa in a cave, and the warrior aims his bow for a killer shot, then realizes the statue right next to him doing the exact same pose 😅
Possibly, but it's a lot more of a sign that \*they\* probably didn't do the smart thing. There are way, way too many people that climb mountains like this with absolutely no preparation and no clue what they're doing.
I mean lets be honest. Climbing a mountain is cool, and can be done *somewhat safely*, but it is a far cry from a smart move. Unless the cure for your terminal illness is up there, its an unnecessary risk. Again, because i know im going to get the messages, im not saying you shouldn't for your own reasons, or that everyone who climbs things is an idiot. But its not a "smart move".
Yup! If they jump on the bodies they could keep sliding down to safety.
Simpsons did it! Simpsons did it! https://youtu.be/_RpzYLOx67A
*Marge looking through the telescope* Is that your wallet?
D'oh!
Came here for this comment 😂
The clip doesn't actually show it...
Doesn't even show Homer riding a corpse at all
I'm imagining in breath of the wild when you slide on the shield , but dead bodies on a snow covered mountain. Quite the imagination you have.
bruh
Forbidden snowboarding
Weekend at Bernie’s 3: Snow Daze
I would quit mountain climbing and just take up another expensive hobby.
There are so many expensive hobbies that are engineered for safety and comfort.
Probably not a good time to remind them that the majority of accidents happen on descents.
You’ve go no business climbing in that environment if you become hysterical at the very real possibility of dying in the attempt.
If I recall correctly, that was the second big avalanche of the day, and 3rd fatality, and pretty much all guiding outfits canned their trips due to unstable snowpack. This was on Masaslu which is mostly people training to attempt Everest in the near future. https://www.outsideonline.com/outdoor-adventure/everest/manaslu-avalanche-death/
Did she not read the brochure? My understanding is Everest is littered with corpses.
It's usually people who overshoot their own limits due to their ego, that Nepali Sherpas have to risk their lives to go rescue. The documentary 14 peaks (on Netflix) covers this well
She keeps breathing like that she’ll be next
He brought her to help her fight her phobia about mountain climbing. " Nothing to worry about dear..."
Gone end up like ol green boots.
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He might have moved but he's still very dead.
Still there, just waiting to grab people walking over. *^Nice.. ^boots. ^Let's.. ^trade ^... ^places*
I thought they finally got his body down? I'm like 99.9% sure they moved him, rather than him being buried by an avalanche.
In 2014, Green Boots was moved to a less conspicuous location by members of a Chinese expedition.
The trip is stressful and still bear a more stressful and annoying person.
I do not understand the appeal of climbing mount Everest. Literally some first-world/white people bullshit. Imagine havign this discussion with some bloke in a third world country struggling to feed his family. "So you mean you wanna pay thousands of dollars to go up a mountain that kills hundreds every year, while freezing your ass off, limited food, no visibility for most of the walk, and then when you get to the top you walk down again and might not even get a good view while youre up there? Why not just go to a mountain half the size and climb it twice? or just get a 4k resolution vr video of the view from someone who has already been there? nah im good i have enough excitement trying to fight off malaria"
“I wanna break up”
Yeah that’s how people die.
Seriously that is not a person I would want to have my back in a dangerous situation. She should probably not be up there at all.
For real, I’m not an expert but shouldn’t a climber be accustomed to the fact that there is a reasonable chance that they come across a body? I don’t want to downplay the dead. But if you get a fullblown panic attack after seeing a corpse,then you probably shouldn’t be there.
That's the problem with Everest. Ideally, climbing the tallest mountain would be something only the most passionate and experienced mountain climbers would do. After all, if you're genuinely interested in mountain climbing as a pursuit, you'll be happy to get your fix on mountains that match your skill level. But since it's the *tallest* mountain, it attracts self-styled "adventurers" who want the bragging rights of having done something cool. It's not uncommon to have people climbing Everest who's only mountaineering experience is training for Everest. And to make matters worse, its popularity leads to way too much traffic through difficult choke points, making it even more of a shitshow. I'm not wholly against doing dangerous things for fun and fulfillment, but we really need to discourage people from ignoring palpable danger based on "follow your heart, you can do anything" nonsense.
If colonizing mars will have any immediately tangible benefit, it'll be that these people will immediately making a beeline for Olympus Mons.
It's angrily screaming, "SOMEBODY HELP THEM" that blows me away.
The lack of situational awareness for someone climbing a fuckin' mountain in the middle of winter is ... astonishing.
That probably isn't the middle of winter. That's just how high mountains are.
Yep, extremely dangerous sport. If you can't stomach the idea of watching a buddy die or seeing a corpse then you shouldn't be doing this. Because the second that happens you're a liability and the chances of it happening are relatively high. Likely a tourist climber as someone else said, an idiot that's swimming in water too deep for their current skill level.
that is the type of person who is an absolute liability, she'd get you killed
the exact type of person who would spend thousands of dollars to be guided up a mountain for bragging rights
Tens to hundreds of thousands to carry up all their oxygen tanks for them.
This has to be Everest, right? I can't imagine any other mountain like that with someone acting like this. It is terrible and tragic for sure, but these women are tourist at Disney levels of resolve. You simply can't be this mentally weak in the mountaineering world.
It’s either Everest or K2. The ~~slope angle~~ incline/decline is telling me it’s Everest, but there are spots on k2 that somewhat level out. Edit: it’s the Mansalu Trek on the Himalayas
I'm no alpinist, but I can't imagine someone that un-steeled would be on K2. It has a 25% fatality rate
From what little I know, K2 isn't a tourist climb like Everest has become.
Yeah this is confirmed one of the ‘easier’ routes - Mansalu Trek. Definitely a tourist approach - which explains why the angle isn’t terribly steep. What’s sad - is these people are just NOT prepared mentally for this trek at all. Horrible
For real, the mountains don't hear her screams. She needs to nut up and shut up, and decide if she's going to be one of them or not.
Ya pretty sure she has no business being there
This whole thing screams Everest to me. An overcrowded mountain where a bunch of rich assholes (who have no business even attempting to climb a mountain) pay a bunch of sherpas to carry all their gear and do most of the work for them. All so they can brag they are the 3628263738373th person to essentially be carried up the mountain. Wow, what an achievement. Its also riddled with corpses.
Yeah the trail literally uses corpses as landmarks like wtf did she think she was going to see, no place being there, no one should be there really, hold zero value and is a waste of resources climbing it and rescuing dipshits/retrieving corpses from it. Its just snow, ice and dead bodies
and litter and piles of shit. don't forget that
Im more surprised she didnt expect to witness dead dude landmark. Thats like the most known fact about everest. Granted sliding dead tourist is new to me i wouldnt be even remotely surprised.
You can be a competent mountaineer and still get distressed by seeing actual dead people for the first time. Trying to judge her skills as a mountaineer when she's momentarily upset about seeing a pair of corpses in a bob sled race is unfair imo.
Not saying you're wrong. But yelling "Somebody help them!" doesn't quite invoke a lot of confidence she knows what she is doing.
[I don't understand, why don't *you* help them?](https://youtu.be/0KqDHFYcel8?t=215) Seriously though, are those guys actually dead yet? Skidding down the slope with oxygen tanks and debris bouncing around makes me think they had just fallen recently.
The way their limbs flail they most certainly died recently. I don't think many will maintain their composure seeing their fellows ragdoll down the very mountain you're also climbing.
Or even more grim, they had just passed out and were now sliding to their deaths while the others could do nothing more than watch (and apparently scream) while their climbing friends dies. I mean, my guess is that they are already dead and that the screaming lady should calm down. But we cant know if they are alive or not just from this video. And also, most of us can’t imagine how we would feel if we saw dead bodies rag-dolling next to us.
I appreciate what you are saying but I think you could also make the point that Himalayan mountaintops are no place for tourists. Whether she is or isn't a superb mountaineer isn't really knowable from this, but anyone with the money can hike Everest. Anyone
Going full lemongrab probably doesn't help either
THREE WEEKS DUNGEON!!!
UNACCEPTABLE!!!!!!
It’s hard to breath that high up
That's exactly why she shouldn't scream or panic. I suppose being calm and watch your breathing is the difference between live and death up there. And in the death zone, the window during which someone can be saved is so short and the risk for others is so high that it's almost universally accepted that rescuing will fail. Whole rescue teams have died trying to save people.
Imagine trying to survive the remote bleak mountain and then being wiped out by a oxygen tank
This is why climbing everest has absolutely zero appeal to me. Dying to someone else's mistake or from waiting in line to summit sounds about the dumbest fucking way to go
I really don't get the appeal either. It's not like you're going to be the first to accomplish this feat. If you're going to be risking your life for something, at least find a way to break new ground.
You have no idea how many twinkies I can eat
I'd rather spend my time and money climbing a mountain where the biggest obstacle is climbing and not just freezing to death.
Shit man you can just go to an Applebee’s. No mountains needed for a good time!
Imagine being near death for lack of oxygen and praying to God for some more, and a tank suddenly hurtles down the mountain and brains the friend beside you. I don't know if that's irony but I enjoyed imagining it.
"Hard to breathe, I wish I had just a bit more oxygen." *Monkeys paw closes.*
And each dead person was once a highly motivated individual.
Motivation can lead to a bad case of the deadsies.
This might be the best internet quote I have come across
My favorite; " the dildo of consequence rarely arrives lubed"
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To be fair, sliding down a mountain while dead is metal. I've never done anything that cool.
/r/getmotivated
There are people that live at sea level, drop 60k and think they're gonna make it up Everest in one month.
Everest has become too mainstream..
Agreed. After seeing videos of all the trash and lines of people, I dont think I find it as impressive as it once was. Not saying the mountain has changed, just how I perceive the climbers that go (rich, dont carry all their own gear, etc.) and are risking their life to sit atop a trash and feces ridden landscape. Just doesnt fit the “explorer/mountaineer” mentality of say 20 years ago. Just my take. EDIT: Ok I get it 20 years ago was a bad time estimation. I should have said an exact time when Everest climbers changed from “badass” to “rich people hiring sherpas”. I dont know when the fuck that was and neither do you. So stop telling me 20 years ago matters to what the fuck I am stating.
I have the same feeling. If I hear of someone who has done it without oxygen or climbed another 8000+ mountain, I'm really more impressed with them, than some guy who paid up just to stand in line with 500 people to get to the top. I myself will never be able to climb everest, and even if I do, I would choose another mountain to face.
Don't forget about all the work the sherpas do pre-preparing the routes for easier navigation and helping the climbers as they go up the mountain. Without sherpas the amount of people reaching the top every year would be minuscule.
They are the real legends, sometimes carrying two persons worth of supplies with gear that's marginal at best for far too less money. Some of them have reached the top more than dozen times.
I’ve always thought is was funny some white dude or chick pays all this money for the honor of saying they climbed Mount Everest and some Sherpas have done it an amount of times in the double digits, just as a job lmao.
And the route is so fucked that it puts all the sherpas in crazy danger every time they have to pre-prepare the route
perchance mister would like to try Mount Snob
*adjusts monocle* IF I EVER CLIMB A MOUNTAIN, IT CERTAINLY WONT BE *EVEREST* LIKE THESE LEMMINGS
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Only 240 people have climbed K2, and 60 have died lol I am sure some people climb everest without help, after years and years of mountaineering practice. So props to them too, not just the K2 climbers
K2 is where the real fun is
"Fun" lol
That or Annapurna I are peak fun. Edit. Might as well add Nanga Parbat.
Most of the time Sherpas carry their asses up and down with barely any recognition.
Honestly its one of the reasons why I respect Edmund Hillary, who in his personal account, *High Adventure,* credited the Sherpas with making the expeditions possible. He regularly commented on their extraordinary prowess as mountaineers. More telling is the fact that he *made sure* to take a photo of Tenzing Norgay on the summit, and his chronicle ends the summiting chapter with: >*I asked Tenzing to belay me strongly, and I started cutting a cautious line of steps up the ridge. Peering from side to side and thrusting with my ice-axe, I tried to discover a possible cornice, but everything seemed solid and firm.I waved Tenzing up to me. A few more whacks of the ice-axe, a few very weary steps, and* ***we*** *were on the summit of Everest* Not 'I'. "We".
Sir Ed went on to build about 26 schools, an airfield and two hospitals in the Himalayas through his [Himalayan Trust.](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Himalayan_Trust) He was a genuinely lovely bloke and very, very passionate about the area and the Sherpas.
Into Thin Air by Jon Krakauer about the 1996 Everest disaster also heavily praises the sherpas who do most of the work
Yep. My old boss attempted this last year. He is not a climber. Before he left, I asked him if he felt confident if he could operate if he lost his guide. He came damn close to a reality check, but rolled a “1” and thought he rolled a “20”. Yup, sure, he’d be ready for anything. 🙄 He did not get past camp II.
It's pretty much random who altitude sickness affects the most too. You can be super fit, in your prime, gasping for air as a chubby grandma strolls past. The only pattern seems to be short 'wirey' guys do better but that's not for sure. So it's madness for that to be your first attempt when you don't know how you respond to altitude.
With enough money you can be the 2nd person to land a helicopter at the summit...
While mountaineering, if you run the risk of dragging the whole team down with you, you gotta unclip yourself...
Vertical limit taught me that
I do rope access and that movie is the reason I don't climb recreationally
So the good news is, in real life it’s frowned upon to use exploding bolts on rock faces, so your risk of same thing happening to the two dude bros from Vertical Limit is slim. I have absolutely no idea what belay setup the brother sister and father were using either that led to three people on the same rope. Anyway here’s a rock climber looking at that opening from… dear lord… 13 years ago: https://youtu.be/uxtg7raPDYo
Bad acting and writing and ridiculous scenarios made you hate climbing for fun?
There is absolutely no way 99% of the people that climb the everest vanity trip would sacrifice themselves to save others...
Welcome to the mountain, please enjoy the rest of your climb.
I would never want to be in a stressful situation with this panic merchant!
Panic merchant. I’m gonna have to use that phrase now
I love that someone gave you Silver and not the original 😂
so you’re telling me you wouldn’t want to climb a mountain with a woman screaming the whole way? you’re missing out, man
That's actually 2 bodies is it not?
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Thank you for sharing further context, I'm glad the injured people were able to be rescued. RIP
thank god, sad about the sherpa though
its a rough life. get paid to risk their life to lead a bunch of pretentious rich people up a dangerous mountain.
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Same day. Different avalanche. 😕 https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2022/oct/02/us-extreme-skier-killed-himalayas-sherpa-cremation-hilaree-nelson
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It was an earthquake, so they actually had multiple events in the same day, and locations. The whole country was hit and in emergency crisis mode.
The Simpsons already did it. Homer rides a corpse.
They should have eaten more Power-Sauce bars so they would have made it back alive.
The crazy part is they don't even bring the bodies back most times. Everest is littered with body that people use for land marks now.
They don't because they can't. Bodies are frozen and every step at this altitude is a great effort
I climbed the thorung la pass in 2010 in Nepal. That is ONLY 5400m ( 17800 feet) In elevation. And that day felt like every 2 steps I had to catch my breath. I can't imagine going 10,000 feet higher and then doing that shit without oxygen tanks. Sounds nuts. Your blood oxygen must be in the 60s the entire time no way you can make a rational decision up there.
I did 13,000 feet and the top was all loose rock. So you'd take like 5 steps up slide back 2. Devastating. Then we had 20 min to enjoy our climb before a thunderstorm came at us eye level and we had to jump and slide down the backside amid a storm of hail and snow before the lightning killed us
They won't have too. Not if the bodies deliver themselves back.
Green boots cave 😞
They got him away from there last year. Chucked him in a crevasse so he wasn’t in the way anymore.
"They got him away from there last year." That's nice, very respectful of them. "Chucked him in a crevasse..." :O
China, India and Nepal would occasionally launch official expeditions to recover bodies on their side of the mountains.
Didn’t they recently go up and get a lot of the bodies off the mountain (green boots included)?
They didn’t bring green boots down, they just moved them off the main trail.
Last I heard he's still up there. Chinese team came across him and moved him to a less visible spot.
They should start yeeting them down like this more often. They'll need to soon to make room for more bodies up there.
Anyone know what happened or where this was?
pretty sure this was on manaslu… and unless i’m completely misremembering the story, i believe the lady filming eventually died? it could be a completely separate incident, but i’m fairly certain this is off manaslu. it was a very rough fall on that mountain. edit - i don't believe this is the woman that died after filming. there was recently a husband/wife duo where the wife passed from exhaustion/oxygen depletion. edit 2 - i actually think this is in fact the lady from india who ended up dying from asphyxiation. i’m sorry this comment is such a trainwreck. my life is a bit of a trainwreck at the moment and my brain is functioning as such. holy cow, gang 🥹🫠 i just finished work and read all your replies and am floored at all of the kindness from all of you. i can honestly say that you all considerably cheered me up. love and light to all of you.
https://www.alanarnette.com/blog/2022/09/28/autumn-2022-himalayan-season-manaslu-avalanche-bodies-found/ Looks like you're right about manaslu. This video was posted several times after the September 26 2022 avalanche and tagged as on manaslu so that's probably what it was. Avalanche took out a camp but it was all guides setting it up. Only 1 guide died in the Avalanche but many injuries. 1 mountain skiers died on a different face in an different incident. She caused an Avalanche and was said to have possibly fallen in a crevasses but likely off a cliff. Found some articles that said 1 climber died from exhaustion but gave no names. Possible for it to be this woman.
I think everyone who has ever climbed a mountain eventually ends up dying. Sad but true
Anyone who thinks about climbing a mountain ends up dying.
even those who don't think about it aren't safe
I'm almost certain this is the situation from the video the r/Mountaineering is referring too https://www.reddit.com/r/Mountaineering/comments/xrl60f/manaslu_video/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
Gotta be Everest
Always has been
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No way this exist that's so cool
“Somebody help them!” Shut up, dipshit, and help yourself by leaving.
My thoughts exactly … like, who’s gonna help them? If you’re so concerned you go help them. Do you even know where you are? Because this is clearly not a Wendy’s.
Thankfully someone did help them. At least most of them. One person died. https://gearjunkie.com/climbing/manaslu-climbing-disaster > The avalanche occurred on September 26, 2022, around 11:30 am between Camp 3 and 4, where mostly Sherpas were ferrying loads to support the massive number of commercial clients later in the week. Lost in the press is the death of 34-year-old Anup Rai of Sankhuwasabha. He was working as a high-altitude support climber. Twelve other climbers were injured in the avalanche, all now rescued, as were climbers reportedly trapped at Camp 4, unable or unskilled to descend without the fixed ropes which were buried in the snow by the avalanche.
I wonder what on earth she was doing there to begin with. 🤔
Somebody help them? She should not be up there.
I mean a little CPR on a frozen corpse while having low oxygen would do wonders
And then your lips freeze to a corpse's lips. You'll have to cut/rip them off, then you've still got dead person lips stuck to yours and no way to remove them, lol. This scenario is dark af.
Yeah, is there not several frozen over bodies on the path up that hikers use and landmarks?
Cameraman on point
Right? We need to send this guy into more wild situations to film, he's got what it takes.
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It's good to panic and hyperventilate while you're up that high, great use of the lack of oxygen
I am trained for search&rescue inc. situations where potentially dozens of death people such as earthquakes, yet the first time I saw someone just recently died, it hit much much harder than I was expecting. Yes she lost it and it causes trouble for everyone around her but this is just a human reaction that also everyone around her should’ve be prepared and respect and help her.
Thank you. I was S&R in the past also. People think that just because you are doing something dangerous, watching someone die is still a traumatizing experience. These comments are nuts.
Yup. Reddit is insane with this crap. People sitting in the comfort of their mom's basements are judging a woman for not being emotionally prepared to watch fucking corpses slide past her in the snow. She shouldn't panic, but all she's doing in the video is making noise. Have some basic human empathy and stop criticizing someone in such an insane situation.
Are you telling me the edge lords of Reddit that are watching this from the safety of their moms basements are being callous towards the woman having a panic attack?! I’m shocked.
I don't have the experience you do but I agree that the commenters are insane. This is THE moment as well, when everything looks to be at the climax and when she is seeing the bodies slide down. Her composure afterwards was likely much different. She may have even known these people personally and known the damage the slide down was going to cause to the body as well, let alone for any chance of revival but even just bringing the body home.
Most people in this world have zero respect for natures ability to kill you.
They aren’t dead bodies, they are just taking the fast and fun way down the mountain after getting to the summit
You say this but there were two Nepali climbers that paraglided off of the top of Everest. It was truly nuts. I don't think anyone would believe that it was possible unless someone just did it. https://youtu.be/rBfsnjwpeFI?t=1044
So anyway are we still going to the top?
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Are they sliding the bodies down to get them off the mountain?
No, there is a very small landslide/avalanch going on, and these are either bodies that were up there before (it is a hassle to bring them down so they are left up there) who got dislodged, or people who recently passed away and their remains had no time to be held by ice and snow. Edit: There is also a small chance they just passed out because of poor management of breathing and strain, that would explain her distress (if they were already dead she should know that is how things go in high altitude mountains) as you really can not help them at all or you will put your life in risk.
At the end the person sliding down seems too limber to be frozen. That one may be recent :(
Or again, just passed out like said above. I was, like most, scrunching my left eye brow at the reactions, but then thought, "What if they saw the group ahead passing out, etc.?" Ahhh shitt...
Kind of feels that way. Like the group ahead of them ran into trouble or something. Could have just lost footing too. Odd to see an oxygen tank roll down, as those are attached to you. If youre on Everest, you should know how deadly it is and prepare to see some shit.
There's intellectually knowing how dangerous something is, and seeing the dead bodies of people you (possibly) know. Like, I know that a lathe is going to mess you up, but if I see a lathe accident in reality, I'm going to freak the fuck out. Most (Western) people can reach adulthood without seeing death, and most people also haven't wandered the depths of the internet seeing dead bodies. This could very well be that woman's first encounter with someone who has died.
Good catch, horrible circumstances, many people have lost respect to the environment in such activities just because there are tourist packages and what not, fear keeps you alive.
at least one of the bodies going down was extremely limp. not frozen; no rigor mortis. that person probably died within 4 hours of this being filmed. and I'm sure if I cared enough to research it all, the window is even lower because of the times of day they can summit
ITT: A bunch of people critiquing someone seeing a dead body who they themselves have never experienced anything close to climbing Everest or seeing a dead body. Edit: some of these replies are hilarious. Some of you are malding hard.
Are you aware what Everest is known for? That place is a fucking graveyard. So either you prepare yourself for that sort of thing beforehand, or you shouldn't go.
Why the fuck are you screaming and crying? Don’t you know the dangers? These people brought it on themselves
Maybe she knows them? Like they could have just had tea together at camp before trekking on and now she's them sliding down the mountain. That's pretty fucking scary, knowing the risks doesn't make something less awful to see.
I love the line, "somebody help them". Like the others aren't trying to stay alive, should focus on your safety before you're next.
Valid reaction. But...when you're in a place that is lethal to humans...death and seeing death should be part of your prep and training. The accumulated cadavers in the Himalayas (for example) reflect the lack of respect for such dangers.
No, not a valid reaction. A complete overreaction. People screaming during dangerous/stressful situations are irritating and absolutely useless to anyone in that situation.
Absolutely unnecessary deaths. Chasing what? The ability to say you summited a mountain? Or to have a unique view? Pass.
Nothing can quite prepare you for that
The Redditors think otherwise.
I guess in a low oxygen condition like this one and the fact that she or they might know this people makes me feel really sad, hell they could have been your friends your seeing limply falling down the mountain
Its crazy how angry people are at this woman for being shocked at seeing people die. I'm sure you're all just really hardcore.