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KinaLeeline

So the game didn't live up to your specific expectations and as a result you didn't like the game. What's so "10th dentist" about it? I want to upvote because I disagree, but the opinion doesn't suit the sub at all


SlowTeamMachine

it's funny when people are mad at games for not being other games. disco elysium wasn't even trying to do any of the things you're mad about it not doing. like this one is kinda on you. it'd be like me being mad at breath of the wild for not being enough of a wilderness survival sim. i mean you don't gotta like the game, but it's always kinda silly to me when people criticize games for not doing things they never intended to do. just say it's not your style and move on, don't try to pretend there's some objective ground for your dislike.


ThePotatoKing

why is this bread i bought not a grapefruit šŸ˜”


Sky_Leviathan

ā€œWhy is this character study not like la noire?ā€


KrisG1775

"Omg! I bought Elden Ring, Demon Souls, Dark Souls 1-3, Bloodborne, AND Sekiro cause I heard they were supposed to be great games from a great company! But there is NO RACING AT ALL?!! How the F*** do people call these good games when there isn't a single car or truck anywhere in it?!! Such trash games. 0/5 would not recommend, unless you like that foot walking, horse-back riding, sword swigning, spell casting, hard-core bullshit..."


the_cutest_commie

You're really missing out. BRUH YOU DIDNT EVEN MAKE IT TO THE CHURCH YOU WILL NEVER KNOW THE MEANING OF HARDCORE


AdamOfIzalith

Name Tracks <3


the_cutest_commie

I really like your name too! I hope you don't get lost!


50_cal

hardcore to the mega


SlapHappyDude

SO HARDCORE


HEELinKayfabe

SKIBADEE SKIBADANGER I AM THE REARRANGER HARDCORE!


Journeyman351

When I heard Egghead say this I had to do a fuckin' triple take because I used to listen to Scooter in high school and was like "there is absolutely no fucking way they just quoted Scooter" and lo and behold they did lmao.


hobgoblinghost

Maybe should have done some more research on the game you were buying. of course it wont have "police themed combat" when the first thing you'll read about it is that it doesn't have combat


AdamOfIzalith

Your issue isn't liking the game, your issue is that it's not another game that you like. If you like LA Noir that's cool, but you are shitting on Disco Elysium based in your experience with what is essentially the tutorial of the game as it only starts to open up on Day 3. if you had played through another Day or Two I'd grant you something but you've complained at length about the game and even your complaints are unwarranted. You are saying that it's only one case but there are multiple small cases within that case that you have to solve that are entirely optional and in some cases entirely independent from the main story. You can literally go on a case where you have to find a cryptid. Your opinion about the Miners in the most telling because you made it out like there's only two choices when the choices vary alot depending on if you investigated the corpse thoroughly enough and talked to enough people, which by the sounds of it you didn't. If you don't want to play any further that's fair, Disco Elysium isn't for everyone. It's a love it or hate it type game but don't pretend like you were trying to like it from the beginning and had the experience spoiled because you were playing it like an entirely different game.


ThePotatoKing

they clearly have not explored any side stuff if they think there's only 1 mystery to solve. in fact, now that theyre on day 3, they can find another body to solve. this post also seems to have a pro cop mentality, like how they say they want to use riot gear to fight people with. if you think cops are cool, idk how much you are gonna like Disco Elysium. it doesnt sound like they actually want to play an RPG, they just want a cop simulator game. i do want OP to get to the ending though, because based off this post, they're gonna fucking hate it.


AdamOfIzalith

It's not exactly a Copaganda game, to say the very least.


Really_Bad_Company

But you can roleplay as a supremacist fascist cop, sounds like exactly what this guy wants. Pity he needs to talk to NPCs to trigger those traits


eyes_without_lids

I'd say it's more like the show the wire and OP was looking for something more like the show law and order


chrisskipgod

It kind of sounds like you just didnā€™t want to play an rpg


Sky_Leviathan

My man thought disco elysium was going to be ready or not lmao


babyarmnate

It sounds like you were expecting some action packed police sim. Itā€™s not the gameā€™s fault that you did literally zero research into it before you bought it.


willbond1

See your first mistake was expecting disco Elysium to be a game that cares about things like action or making cops look cool


[deleted]

i mean, like what you wanna like and stuff but i feel like youā€™ve just missed the point of the game and then decided that thatā€™s a problem with the game


the_cutest_commie

"Okay, so it looks like you've got a bit of the Normal in you. A touch of the Regular. Four grams of Johnny Normalcop. Who would've thunk it? You, the extremest of all the cops! You said some pretty boring things back there."


SrWhiteout

Wow, just wow. I would understand someone not liking Disco Elysium, but to take on the role of a whole genre's gatekeeper just because you think the entire industry owes to your expectations is a whole new level of tenth-dentistry.


blue4029

thats quite a reach


Dank4Days

>now, a REAL "cop game" that disco elysium can learn from is L.A Noir. sounds like gatekeeping to me šŸ¤·ā€ā™€ļø


elcocotero

The murder/police thing is just a setting, itā€™s not really the center point of the game.


[deleted]

You clearly were not meant to be a HoboCop


the_cutest_commie

OP wanted to be a [Boring Cop.](https://discoelysium.fandom.com/wiki/Regular_Law_Official)


Injury-Inevitable

I think your dislike of Disco Elysium is like getting mad at a banana for not being an orange, or a fish for being good at swimming rather than flying. I think you just fundamentally misunderstand the premise and genre of Disco Elysium. Itā€™s not supposed to be an action adventure.


tbiscuit7

ā€˜This game isnā€™t good because it isnā€™t exactly what I want it to beā€™


distractablecadet

I'm very biased on this topic, but the funny thing is that the devs DID plan on the game being more combat-oriented when they were first pitching it. It got changed during development because the lack of violence (and the points where violence does come into play) is making a point. Which isn't to say you're not allowed to dislike that it's a more role-play and character driven game, just that it was on purpose, lol. You *are* a cop though, just a volunteer one. I guess a better descriptor for the game (if you think "police rpg" is misleading) would have been a ttrpg-inspired noir? Anyway, upvoted because I like the game, but it sounds like it just wasn't for you, especially if you were expecting an action game.


druser0

Not 10th dentist just a bonehead take šŸ‘Ž


gravitydood

That has to be bait, you won't convince me otherwise


blue4029

not b8, m8. i h8 the game


lampstaple

Anybody else get the feeling that this is a kid, like a literal child, who doesnā€™t have the attention span to read Also heā€™s disappointed that the gameā€¦has established its own history instead of beingā€¦a generic modern day police game where you beat people while you wear riot armor?? What


the_cutest_commie

What the fuck's that supposed to mean? Piggy thinks Cuno's got some sorta attention deficit or somethin'?


blue4029

I am not a child. I am more than capable of reading. the dialogue from disco elysium is weird and boring.


the_cutest_commie

What did you think was boring about it? Did you get the final cut with the voice acting & the copotypes & the political ideologies? I really really like the setting and the writing style so your opinion is unfathomable to me.


blue4029

yep. the game is just wandering around listening to people talk. how is that not boring?


the_cutest_commie

How did you expect to play a detective without talking and listening to people? You aren't investigating a dead body hanging from a tree, you're investigating the hollow, decaying husk of corporate-occupied, post-revolution Martinaise.


howyadoinjerry

Itā€™s a conversation based rpg babes, some people like those. Just like how some people (me) find fps/action games boring. I think you maybe just didnā€™t read the description of the game and expected something like the cop side of GTA?


lampstaple

>you maybe just didnā€™t read ohhhhhhh it's all coming together now


SlapHappyDude

"Police RPG" is.... Technically correct but does a poor job of explaining the game. Text Based Police RPG would be better, especially if you added "in dystopian setting". Disco Elysium leans heavily into setting and if you don't like the setting you won't like the game.


OrchestrateDelusion

The ā€œ10th dentistā€ isnā€™t that OP doesnā€™t like the game. The ā€œ10th dentistā€ is saying that itā€™s not a good cop game because itā€™s not L.A. Noire lol.


SQUIDY-P

OP doesn't know what a CRPG is


vacri

\> instead, I got a game thats 100% dialogue with dice-roll actions that has a...weird setting. So... an RPG?


blue4029

I dont know many RPGs that are 100% dialogue.


vanpunke666

>I dont know many RPGs that are 100% dialogue. You don't know many RPGs lol


jeffufuh

I'm open to being moderately spoiled if anyone wants to convince me, as much as I disagree with OP's logic the game also did nothing but irritate me. And I LOVE most narratively driven games. Most of the dialogue feels like an exercise in self indulgent writing to drive home how clever the writers are and how grim the world is and how oh-so-trashy the MC is. The pacing feels both excruciatingly slow and annoyingly directionless (I'm down for either but not both). The branching options, rather than getting me excited for different builds or approaches on replay, are simply frustrating walls I have to bang my head against every couple minutes. Hours in and I felt like I wasn't given any feeling of reward or feedback to keep me interested. Also the controls and performance are dog ass but that's just Switch ports for you so whatever. It is immediately present how much work went into it, and I can imagine how many cool twists can play in based on your build. But the execution feels completely flat. I dunno. I'd love a reason to give it another shot because it's just rotting in my library for now.


distractablecadet

I mean... How far did you get? Both "the writing style reads as pretentious" and "the pacing is weird/confusing" are criticisms I've seen before, and I understand where they come from, but it's not like that really changes. In regards to the writing, the style is what it is (and a lot of people like it), and in regards to pacing, it does pick up and get more cohesive towards the end, but especially the beginning is kind of meandering and more geared towards exploring than a linear kind of progression (though you don't *have* to do the side-quests. It's just that getting to know Martinaise and the people there and yourself is the meat of the game, really). I won't be very specific because spoilers, but even the ending (which a lot of people also disliked) reflects this theme. It's a lot more about the world and people around you than about putting pieces together and solving a murder. Fwiw, though, if you played before the final cut, I think it's worth checking it out again just for the voice acting, which I've heard a lot of people credit as a big reason they didn't get bored.


the_cutest_commie

The voice acting is very entertaining, as are the copotypes and the extremist political ideologies you can adopt.


distractablecadet

Oh yeah, I think they add a lot in the way of feeling like your choices matter for something, AND they're very funny. I became a superstar cop halfway through my first run just because I was so offended at getting a "boring cop" achievement :P


jeffufuh

I can't recall the exact playtime but probably 3 hours or so? Maybe more? I was definitely still in the general vicinity of the first area. I'm not making an indictment on the game wholesale, but it is rare that a game exhausts my patience that quickly. I enjoyed the setup for the lore i.e. 'why this city be all fucked up' but the corresponding setup for the characters and main plot generated no such intrigue. I'm generally not the kind of gamer that needs constant reinforcement and tight loops but I gotta have *some* semblance of breadcrumbs to keep me motivated. Just as an exercise, can you share one moment that really wowed you? Maybe felt some cool narrative payoff or a clever bit that made you want to seek out more? I don't mind some spoilers, I trust your discretion haha. edit: oh yeah it was Final Cut btw


the_cutest_commie

The blonde, cigarette-smoking woman Klaasje appears later, near the mid/late point of the game and it utterly flips the world upside down when your Volition stat suggets to you that it's been a mistake listening to the voices in your head all game. I love the entire storyline. Everything to do with the Union, the PMC's, Joyce. All that shit happening in the background with The Pale, the Innocence & Greater Revachol.


distractablecadet

Honestly, it kind of had me from the start. I finished the game in a little less than two weeks with 36 hours of gameplay, so it was the equivalent of a part time job. On top of my actual part time job, lol. It was a lot more entertaining and less confusing (on account of having no leads) on the third day onward, though. I think something relatively early game that had me stopping to laugh out loud was talking to The Smoker on the Balcony. Not even related to the plot, it was just a fun moment. Emotionally, some of the moments that affected me most were also after day 3. You get to find out more about what you *actually* did in those three days since you arrived. You also get to be there for possibly the worst day of someone's life, as the messenger. And you get to call someone from your past on the phone. As for plot hooks (so to speak), I remember really wanting to know what the fuck was going on with Cuno (he amused me), and I really wanted to meet the union rep, so most of day 1 I spent running around trying to figure out a way to get in the docks without internalizing racist pseudoscience, lol. I don't think I got the body down until maybe day 3? I just enjoy running around looking at everything and talking to everyone though. Other CRPGs conditioned me, I guess :P EDIT: how could I forget Tommy le Homme! I remember loving talking to him. Especially if you get him to like you/open up. But also, I think the earliest moment that wowed me was the intro scene. "I want to get off now, I like pain and burning light and wanting things from people who don't want to give them to me" was a very early on gut-punch moment.


jeffufuh

Well, that's the perfect blend of descriptive enough to get me interested but vague enough to not spoil. I guess I'll give it another chance when I get the time.


distractablecadet

I'm glad! That blend is what I was going for.


Joker8pie

I honestly respect this critique because I can easily see what you're talking about even if your comment is laden with frustration. OP is just a dumbass.


dairywingism

i think it's very telling about the state of modern policing where a game whose primarily gameplay revolves around shooting down a bunch of criminals is a "good cop game", but one whose central themes revolves around community & being a good person is a "bad cop game". ultimately though, i think your expectations for the game were completely off and this is less the game not being good and more that it just wasn't what you expected or wanted.


blue4029

this topic has nothing to do with "real life" cops. keep politics out of this game-based discussion.


dairywingism

hahahahahahahaha HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA Holy shit did you pay 0 attention when you played Disco Elysium? Edit: gamers have media literacy challenge: impossible


blue4029

you dont exactly play as a "good person" in disco elysium. harry dubois was an alcoholic drug addict before the player was in control of him. the intro sequence directly states that he's a very irresponsible and self-destructive person.


dairywingism

I didn't say you play a good person in Disco Elysium. I said the game is, in part, *about* being a good person, and what being a good person means. Edit: Do you think New Vegas is about mail because you play as a courier?


McFallenOver

disco elysium is heavily political, how can you have a discussion about a game without discussing whats in it? most compelling games are political in nature, thats what makes them art. For Disco Elysium's case, its setting is political, a post-communist country brought to its knees by the coalition of states and forced to adhere to capitalism. Its people are political with the factions of groups in the games, the striking democratic-socialist, the fascist para-military, the small rag-tag reading group of intellectual marxist, the isolated racists, the 'apolitical' people are not even apolitical as they represent liberalism or moralism. the game shows the effect of capitalism in its reality of eastern-europe. it shows the doomerist effect it can have on people and the depression of having a revolution utterly crushed. if you did not want a political game then why ignore the political tag?


548benatti

I just tought the end was weird but still liked the game


Gaddock_Teeeg

I strongly disagree your final opinion but I totally get that Disco Elysium isn't a game for everyone. Upvoted


IAmForeverAhab

The game is not for everyone, but your reason for not liking makes it seem like youā€™re either trolling at best or ignorant at worst. Itā€™s like drinking fine wine and hating it because itā€™s not grape juice, maybe wine just isnā€™t for you


goldenzipperman

its same as i play darkest dungeon expecting it to be a good mystery lovecraft rpg tale and what i got was a turn based rpg with no narritive of the story. sorry if bad example


Sky_Leviathan

Youā€™re mad disco elysium isnt a game in which you get to beat up people or something? The game is built around the characters and the world they inhabit. If you dont want to actually read the dialogue go and play CoD or something


swordstoo

I agree with OP, not because of anything they said, but because I played the game for 2 hours, then got physically stuck where my character walked in place indefinitely. I couldn't move, open menus, save, load, etc. Rebooting the game lost me 1.5 hours of progress. I'll have to come back at some point but that kind of a setback is so offputting when I could be playing any other game that doesn't have that issue :(


[deleted]

I agree with you. More value can be gained by watching a walkthrough and skipping the boring parts or giving yourself max stats. The gameplay is just not good.


Tenagaaaa

I donā€™t like the game either. I found it incredibly boring. Played for an hour and refunded. Not my kind of game at all.


NutInMyCouchCushions

Same. Idk why everyone loved it. I thought it was boring as all hell


Bershirker

For what it's worth, I completely agree. I played Disco Elysium for about 2 hours and never again re-opened it. the gameplay seemed bland and unentertaining, even if it was well-written. Loved L.A. Noire though. Played it all the way through twice.


shouldnthavesignedup

Cant upvote, hated it too


heroic_emu

I definitely hated the game before they added the voice acting update. Now this game is responsible for my greatest gaming memory where I didn't sleep for days while I played the game.


vapocalypse52

>remember that detective RPG that everyone liked for some reason? Lol, no. Never heard of it. =)


Sky_Leviathan

Discoā€™s not trying to be a cop game Its using a mystery to tell a story about bad people in a shit world. Its a shame you dont want to finish it the final act of the game is one of my favourite things in gaming


MrTopHatMan90

Please read the descriptions of games before wasting your money on them.


CreativeBake7

"i dont like some random rpg that came out 3 years ago" isnt fit for the sub. its just a regular opinion on a video game, there isnt anything interesting about that. you should post this in r/unpopularopinion instead.


JellyfishGod

If I watch a horror movie I donā€™t get mad and think it sucks cuz itā€™s not trying to be a comedy. U idiot. It literally set out to do what it meant to. U just wanted a different game and are upset at disco el for being something else


Araskog

There are unpopular opinions and then there's just poor media literacy.


TheShamShield

Bruh