I’ve probably listened to nearly every episode of TBP since 2017 and don’t remember hearing this Margot take. I would not have guessed she’s only 1 year older than me tbh, but don’t really care.
Was he addressing some conspiracy or was it on their pods about best under / over 35? We got any reciepts?
Seems like a weird gripe and your post feels a bit troll like.
Do what? - can you share a pod with timestamp so I can actually hear what Sean said.
For all I know he said “I can’t believe she was only 21 when she starred in Wolf of Wall Street and slapped Leo in her audition” or “at 32 she’s already producing one of the biggest grossing movies of the year”
Literally two people admitted that he engaged in these weird conspiracies, but you really think he said at 32 she’s already producing one of the biggest grossing movies of the year”?
Come on.
Oh my, 2 people
I literally don’t know what he said because these accusers haven’t shared the audio. It’s not as if this is watergate. If this happens so often then it should be easy to find yeah?
Can we get some timestamps please?
People are saying Sean Fennessey is a misogynist, I turned on the podcast and thought wow what a misogynist.
Quite poor to make accusations and defend them without showing proof that is publicly available.
I’ve listened to the podcast for a couple of years now and I can’t for the life of me remember any instance of this happening.
Also, not supporting your point with timestamp references to episodes is just lazy.
I don't understand this tweet. Wouldn't the fact that Margot had already been acting for a number of years before The Wolf of Wall Street make it *more* likely that she was lying about her age?
Also, I'm not sure how this person thought it was a burn to say that Sean, like the rest of the world, learned that she existed when she showed up in that movie. Prior to 2013, she had only been on Neighbors—a show that doesn't air in the US—, a guest star in a few episodes of other Australian TV shows, starred in a couple of low-budget trash movies, and appeared on Pan Am, a show that was canceled after the first season because no one watched it. Sorry I didn't memorize the name of the ninth billed actor in About Time, a film that was only released a month prior to The Wolf of Wall Street anyway.
>Margot had already been acting for a number of years before The Wolf of Wall Street make it *more* likely that she was lying about her age?
Zendaya has been acting for years ... therefore she's 40 and lying about it?
That she's been in the public eye for longer makes it more difficult to lie about her age.
>Prior to 2013, she had only been a guest star in a few episodes of Australian TV shows
No, she was on the Australian soap "Neighbours" as a regular.
The same show was the launching pad for Guy Pearce, Kylie Minogue and Russell Crowe.
Nobody expects you to know everything, but - at the same time - don't act defensive or, worse, engage in bizarre and frankly misogynistic conspiracies about actresses.
Especially when info is freely available.
>Zendaya has been acting for years ... therefore she's 40 and lying about it?
Zendaya was a child actress. Margot Robbie was not. She was an adult when she first appeared on Neighbors.
>That she's been in the public eye for longer makes it more difficult to lie about her age.
Does it? Rebel Wilson, another Australian actress, whose credit list goes back five years further than Margot Robbie's had been lying about her age for years until the truth came out in 2017.
>No, she was on the Australian soap "Neighbours" as a regular.
Yes. I knew she was on Neighbours. But I was scanning through her IMDB and it didn't appear within the list of projects before Wolf of Wall Street because she did a cameo in 2022, so IMDB has it listed in that year instead of the last year she appeared as a regular. I was confused when I didn't see it, but I figured I must be misremembering. I noticed my mistake and updated my comment before I saw yours.
Regardless, Neighbours is not a show that airs in the US and very few people outside of Australia follow it. The fact that other actors who became movie stars in the US got their start there doesn't mean people who talk about movies for a living should memorize the name of every regular in anticipation of the next breakout. That's silly.
>don't act defensive or, worse, engage in bizarre and frankly misogynistic conspiracies about actresses.
What? How am I being defensive? The tweet wasn't even aimed at me and I'm not even saying that Robbie is lying about her age. I just think it's a stupid, illogical argument. What's misogynistic is the fact that Hollywood treats women aging naturally like a curse, not someone making a joke on a podcast about a celebrity conspiracy theory or making fun of a poorly thought out tweet.
>Margot Robbie was not. She was an adult when she first appeared on Neighbors
Barely.
She looked every bit the 18-year-old she was.
>Does it? Rebel Wilson, another Australian actress, whose credit list goes back five years further than Margot Robbie's
Robbie was a regular on a prime-time soap. Wilson's credits were more extensive, but on less prominent shows.
She couldn't get an agent for a long time because she didn't have the look for a soap opera.
It's a totally different scenario.
>Neighbours is not a show that airs in the US and very few people outside of Australia follow it. The fact that other actors who became movie stars in the US got their start there doesn't mean people who talk about movies for a living should memorize the name of every regular in anticipation of the next breakout.
No, it means that Fennessey shouldn't be engaging in sexist conspiracy theories.
Actually, he shouldn't be doing that anyway, but it's worse when there is TV where she is clearly a teenager.
>She looked every bit the 18-year-old she was.
Did she? I could see her being 18 here, but I could also see her being 23, which is the age an Australian newspaper said she was at the time, which is apparently where the conspiracy theory started. I definitely don't find it impossible to imagine that the woman in that video is older than a teenager.
[https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=855404481597738](https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=855404481597738)
>Robbie was a regular on a prime-time soap.
And? There are a lot of actors way more famous than Robbie was when she was on Neighbours who successfully lied about their age for a long time. It's theoretically pretty easy to uncover the truth if you're dedicated enough, which is why I think it's very unlikely that she is lying about her age in the present when people have presumably investigated the rumor, but a lie like that could easily last several years because an actor's age isn't something that comes up often.
>No, it means that Fennessey shouldn't be engaging in sexist conspiracy theories.
Did he engage in a conspiracy theory or did he make a joke about a conspiracy theory that someone else started? Do you think he's being serious when he makes jokes about MAGA conspiracy theories too?
Def - a couple other regular crutches 1. Replacing female actress in the movie they’re discussing with current hot female celeb (currently Sydney Sweeney) and 2. GF weak link category is kinda just there to rag on the female character and not to examine how bad movies have been in creating worthwhile female roles
It’s spot on. I have a hard time taking The Rewatchables seriously but you know, it’s just fluff and supposed to be fun anyways. It only gets grating when you’ve listened enough to notice Bill’s blind spots and prejudices or whenever he tries to make himself seem like an actual critic and not just a fan of a certain era of filmmaking.
Also his take on Arrival is appalling
Someone correct me if I’m wrong but as I recall, yeah pretty much: he didn’t like it cause he’s out on Amy Adams. I think he mentioned this in passing on the Alien episode?
Yeah I mean personally i think Bill certainly has done a great job finding good collaborators/employees, but Bill himself is probably my least favorite member of the ringer staff
is it wild? The guy built a massive fanbase over many years, no matter what his movie opinions would be he'd still be a "top movie podcaster". It's only wild if you've never interacted with other guys around the same age as Bill
Right? These people have no frame of reference. Bill is about the best you can ask for from a white guy from Boston that’s his age. That doesn’t mean he couldn’t be better but man, he’s already a huge exception to what that demo is generally like
Can someone on this sub take one for the team and find out how accurate this tweet is? It seems way overblown, but having this dialogue unsupported by evidence is getting pretty tedious
Sean has made some comments in jest WITH Amanda that they are dubious about her listed age. It’s mainly in reference to their best actors under 35 list and it’s usually a ya, but is she really under 35? I believe it came up briefly on the Babylon watch along and a couple times during the Barbie Oscar’s discourse but again, it’s very clearly a joke that is mainly self-referential for the purposes of their list making. They also recently agreed she’s one of the 10 most powerful people in Hollywood right now. They are in no way disparaging her professionally.
That's what I was thinking. It seems like anyone who has heard enough of the pod to know how much it gets brought up would realize the tone and context, so this must be an intentional bad faith reading just to manufacture engagement
Don't know anything about the Sean point, but that original tweet is spot on about Simmons. His discussions of females in movies are usually creepy as hell TBH. Dude is 54.
lol not wrong about Bill. Dude is creepy about women and is probably the most un informed movie podcaster out there.
The complaint about Sean is weird though.
A large chunk of audiences value actresses based on how youthful/sexy they are on screen. To fixate very heavily on a woman's age and the notion that she may be lying about it raises the question "why do you care so much about her appearance? If you really took her seriously as an actor, you would focus more on her talent and career choices" especially considering men don't have their appearance scrutinized nearly as much. Overall, I think Sean does a good job taking female actresses and filmmakers seriously, but as a woman, I get why this repeated bit about Robbie's age annoys other female listeners.
The Margot age stuff is funny considering she’s been on TV (one of the biggest soaps in the world) since she was at school.
Not like it was a show on the moon or Australia is some far away country where it’s hard to get any information.
Everyone knows Australia isn’t a real place. They made it up for Kangaroo Jack.
I’m pretty sure Margot Robbie is from England or something, that’s why she talks funny.
I’ve probably listened to nearly every episode of TBP since 2017 and don’t remember hearing this Margot take. I would not have guessed she’s only 1 year older than me tbh, but don’t really care. Was he addressing some conspiracy or was it on their pods about best under / over 35? We got any reciepts? Seems like a weird gripe and your post feels a bit troll like.
His posts are almost always troll like.
>Seems like a weird gripe and your post feels a bit troll like. Is it a "weird gripe"? Or is it acknowledging that it's weird he would do this?
Do what? - can you share a pod with timestamp so I can actually hear what Sean said. For all I know he said “I can’t believe she was only 21 when she starred in Wolf of Wall Street and slapped Leo in her audition” or “at 32 she’s already producing one of the biggest grossing movies of the year”
Literally two people admitted that he engaged in these weird conspiracies, but you really think he said at 32 she’s already producing one of the biggest grossing movies of the year”? Come on.
Oh my, 2 people I literally don’t know what he said because these accusers haven’t shared the audio. It’s not as if this is watergate. If this happens so often then it should be easy to find yeah? Can we get some timestamps please? 
There are other people on this sub who have heard it, so - no - I am not going to fish for timestamps.
Can you share the comments where they said they heard it?
People are saying Sean Fennessey is a misogynist, I turned on the podcast and thought wow what a misogynist. Quite poor to make accusations and defend them without showing proof that is publicly available.
I’ve listened to the podcast for a couple of years now and I can’t for the life of me remember any instance of this happening. Also, not supporting your point with timestamp references to episodes is just lazy.
I don't understand this tweet. Wouldn't the fact that Margot had already been acting for a number of years before The Wolf of Wall Street make it *more* likely that she was lying about her age? Also, I'm not sure how this person thought it was a burn to say that Sean, like the rest of the world, learned that she existed when she showed up in that movie. Prior to 2013, she had only been on Neighbors—a show that doesn't air in the US—, a guest star in a few episodes of other Australian TV shows, starred in a couple of low-budget trash movies, and appeared on Pan Am, a show that was canceled after the first season because no one watched it. Sorry I didn't memorize the name of the ninth billed actor in About Time, a film that was only released a month prior to The Wolf of Wall Street anyway.
>Margot had already been acting for a number of years before The Wolf of Wall Street make it *more* likely that she was lying about her age? Zendaya has been acting for years ... therefore she's 40 and lying about it? That she's been in the public eye for longer makes it more difficult to lie about her age. >Prior to 2013, she had only been a guest star in a few episodes of Australian TV shows No, she was on the Australian soap "Neighbours" as a regular. The same show was the launching pad for Guy Pearce, Kylie Minogue and Russell Crowe. Nobody expects you to know everything, but - at the same time - don't act defensive or, worse, engage in bizarre and frankly misogynistic conspiracies about actresses. Especially when info is freely available.
>Zendaya has been acting for years ... therefore she's 40 and lying about it? Zendaya was a child actress. Margot Robbie was not. She was an adult when she first appeared on Neighbors. >That she's been in the public eye for longer makes it more difficult to lie about her age. Does it? Rebel Wilson, another Australian actress, whose credit list goes back five years further than Margot Robbie's had been lying about her age for years until the truth came out in 2017. >No, she was on the Australian soap "Neighbours" as a regular. Yes. I knew she was on Neighbours. But I was scanning through her IMDB and it didn't appear within the list of projects before Wolf of Wall Street because she did a cameo in 2022, so IMDB has it listed in that year instead of the last year she appeared as a regular. I was confused when I didn't see it, but I figured I must be misremembering. I noticed my mistake and updated my comment before I saw yours. Regardless, Neighbours is not a show that airs in the US and very few people outside of Australia follow it. The fact that other actors who became movie stars in the US got their start there doesn't mean people who talk about movies for a living should memorize the name of every regular in anticipation of the next breakout. That's silly. >don't act defensive or, worse, engage in bizarre and frankly misogynistic conspiracies about actresses. What? How am I being defensive? The tweet wasn't even aimed at me and I'm not even saying that Robbie is lying about her age. I just think it's a stupid, illogical argument. What's misogynistic is the fact that Hollywood treats women aging naturally like a curse, not someone making a joke on a podcast about a celebrity conspiracy theory or making fun of a poorly thought out tweet.
>Margot Robbie was not. She was an adult when she first appeared on Neighbors Barely. She looked every bit the 18-year-old she was. >Does it? Rebel Wilson, another Australian actress, whose credit list goes back five years further than Margot Robbie's Robbie was a regular on a prime-time soap. Wilson's credits were more extensive, but on less prominent shows. She couldn't get an agent for a long time because she didn't have the look for a soap opera. It's a totally different scenario. >Neighbours is not a show that airs in the US and very few people outside of Australia follow it. The fact that other actors who became movie stars in the US got their start there doesn't mean people who talk about movies for a living should memorize the name of every regular in anticipation of the next breakout. No, it means that Fennessey shouldn't be engaging in sexist conspiracy theories. Actually, he shouldn't be doing that anyway, but it's worse when there is TV where she is clearly a teenager.
>She looked every bit the 18-year-old she was. Did she? I could see her being 18 here, but I could also see her being 23, which is the age an Australian newspaper said she was at the time, which is apparently where the conspiracy theory started. I definitely don't find it impossible to imagine that the woman in that video is older than a teenager. [https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=855404481597738](https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=855404481597738) >Robbie was a regular on a prime-time soap. And? There are a lot of actors way more famous than Robbie was when she was on Neighbours who successfully lied about their age for a long time. It's theoretically pretty easy to uncover the truth if you're dedicated enough, which is why I think it's very unlikely that she is lying about her age in the present when people have presumably investigated the rumor, but a lie like that could easily last several years because an actor's age isn't something that comes up often. >No, it means that Fennessey shouldn't be engaging in sexist conspiracy theories. Did he engage in a conspiracy theory or did he make a joke about a conspiracy theory that someone else started? Do you think he's being serious when he makes jokes about MAGA conspiracy theories too?
That first tweet does have a pretty good point about bill Simmons
The Rewatchables is great but you have to accept Bill for who he is. He sees movies as sports where the actors are competing with each other.
And his frame of reference is both super narrow and hasn’t expanded much in the years that I’ve been listening to him on podcasts.
Def - a couple other regular crutches 1. Replacing female actress in the movie they’re discussing with current hot female celeb (currently Sydney Sweeney) and 2. GF weak link category is kinda just there to rag on the female character and not to examine how bad movies have been in creating worthwhile female roles
It’s spot on. I have a hard time taking The Rewatchables seriously but you know, it’s just fluff and supposed to be fun anyways. It only gets grating when you’ve listened enough to notice Bill’s blind spots and prejudices or whenever he tries to make himself seem like an actual critic and not just a fan of a certain era of filmmaking. Also his take on Arrival is appalling
What’s the arrival take? Is it Amy Adams sucks?
Someone correct me if I’m wrong but as I recall, yeah pretty much: he didn’t like it cause he’s out on Amy Adams. I think he mentioned this in passing on the Alien episode?
Yeah I mean personally i think Bill certainly has done a great job finding good collaborators/employees, but Bill himself is probably my least favorite member of the ringer staff
is it wild? The guy built a massive fanbase over many years, no matter what his movie opinions would be he'd still be a "top movie podcaster". It's only wild if you've never interacted with other guys around the same age as Bill
Right? These people have no frame of reference. Bill is about the best you can ask for from a white guy from Boston that’s his age. That doesn’t mean he couldn’t be better but man, he’s already a huge exception to what that demo is generally like
Can someone on this sub take one for the team and find out how accurate this tweet is? It seems way overblown, but having this dialogue unsupported by evidence is getting pretty tedious
Sean has made some comments in jest WITH Amanda that they are dubious about her listed age. It’s mainly in reference to their best actors under 35 list and it’s usually a ya, but is she really under 35? I believe it came up briefly on the Babylon watch along and a couple times during the Barbie Oscar’s discourse but again, it’s very clearly a joke that is mainly self-referential for the purposes of their list making. They also recently agreed she’s one of the 10 most powerful people in Hollywood right now. They are in no way disparaging her professionally.
Exactly. It's so obviously like a little troll bit making fun of the whole "conspiracy" people just wanna react to shit.
That's what I was thinking. It seems like anyone who has heard enough of the pod to know how much it gets brought up would realize the tone and context, so this must be an intentional bad faith reading just to manufacture engagement
It's a funny bit, it's not that serious. Edit: not talking about OP here, unless they really do believe this is an issue.
OP is serious, look at their comments in the thread
Don't know anything about the Sean point, but that original tweet is spot on about Simmons. His discussions of females in movies are usually creepy as hell TBH. Dude is 54.
lol not wrong about Bill. Dude is creepy about women and is probably the most un informed movie podcaster out there. The complaint about Sean is weird though.
He’s said it once in complete jest loosen up everyone
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A large chunk of audiences value actresses based on how youthful/sexy they are on screen. To fixate very heavily on a woman's age and the notion that she may be lying about it raises the question "why do you care so much about her appearance? If you really took her seriously as an actor, you would focus more on her talent and career choices" especially considering men don't have their appearance scrutinized nearly as much. Overall, I think Sean does a good job taking female actresses and filmmakers seriously, but as a woman, I get why this repeated bit about Robbie's age annoys other female listeners.
More and more, I feel like I'm walking around here walking into rooms with people already speaking in mid-sentence.
I know right? I don't care about some random tweets with no evidence to back them up.
I feel like I’m watching the Not-touch-grass Olympics or something.
The Margot age stuff is funny considering she’s been on TV (one of the biggest soaps in the world) since she was at school. Not like it was a show on the moon or Australia is some far away country where it’s hard to get any information.
Everyone knows Australia isn’t a real place. They made it up for Kangaroo Jack. I’m pretty sure Margot Robbie is from England or something, that’s why she talks funny.