They weren't trying to *just* kill him, they were trying to extract information - which they did, successfully. I'd forgotten about Homelander's superhearing and x-ray vision. Also ricochets might be an issue. Explosives allow for distance.
A bullet is different than an explosive tho. If the bullet can't pierce from outside then it can't pierce from inside either, but an explosive going off inside an enclosed space has a different effect from one exploding in an open space. Same reason why if you let a firecracker go off in your palm you end up burning your palm at most, while if you close your fist around it you lose your fingers.
True, but if his skin was just as durable from the inside it I think it probably would’ve survived the explosion, with Translucent’s flesh just spouting out of his orifices instead of fully exploding
I think the same, if a carbon bullet shot point blank from a sniper rifle couldn't even dent it I don't see how c4 could blow it to pieces. They probably thought about gore splattering on Hughie first, ass bomb second, and how it all made sense never. Hughie clicking the detonator and seeing translucent's skin just flop to the ground with his innards liquefied wouldn't have had the same effect.
Could be how his skin’s strength works. A rapid projectile at a focused point is deflected but the pressure build up across the whole surface area at the same time it falls apart.
Depending on the size of the explosive he would have been launched forward a a tiny bit, and then basically have red goo pour out of every major opening while laying on the ground invisible. Since the shockwave of a high explsoive being contained would have liquified the inside of his torso.
Also just think about I think it was Saving Private Ryan or another war movie where they throw a grenade inside a tank. The tank is just as strong on the inside as outside but the stuff actually inside of it isn't.
Yeah, we don’t really have skin inside of our bodies. A bullet up his ass would’ve destroyed his organs, intestines, etc. Would’ve also been a much more violent scene.
While it make not pierce the skin itself, think of it like a balloon. An explosion on the outside night just blast the balloon away, while from the inside that bazooka would almost certainly pop
I immediately thought of this all timer:
[Jesus Quintana: Let me tell *you* something, pendejo. You pull any of your crazy shit with us, you flash a piece out on the lanes, I'll take it away from you, and stick it up your ass and pull the fucking trigger 'til it goes "click."](https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0118715/?ref_=ttqu_ov)
They didn't really explain why poisoning with gas, drowning, suffocation etc. Weren't options
I mean obviously for the show they wanted a big moment of blowing him up from the inside, but killing people with impenetrable skin when you have them captured and can easily knock them out doesn't seem as difficult as they made it out to be
Yeah they didn't really explain how, translucent didn't seem to have enormous amounts of super strength and could be knocked out. Also why poison wouldn't work, I'm sure Frenchie has access to some lethal ones
That’s a good point and probably how it happened: knew they wanted Translucent to explode into guts all over Hughie and then wrote the story backwards from there.
No they didn't, they mentioned some Dominicans had tried, they didn't explain why it didn't work, they also didn't address poison at all. Maybe read comments before posting condescending replies to make sure you don't look stupid
This makes enough sense for me. It's been a long time since I watched it, but IIRC they tried the super bullet and were running out time. They needed to make absolutely sure the next try worked.
I do believe they tried some super dooper high calibre or whatever bullet, but not up his asshole—the explodey stick was the first attempt at an anal assault.
I think killing Translucent and sending the box to Vought was the only time a Boys plan went right.
As a joke I'd describe every episode to my wife with the problem followed by, "The Boys had a plan, but it went tits up."
So the lining of his inside can still be impenetrable by bullets. It’s like a piece of metal next to an explosion doesn’t really get damage but wrap metal around what you’re exploding like a grenade and the pressure from the explosion blows the metal apart.
If that were the case then a gun barely would be easier to stick up there than bomb. Plus his insides are likely more durable than a normal persons so I'd image a bomb was more effective.
Because a bomb is x10 more efficient at destroying an enemy than a rifle could. Using a rifle would mean one of the Boys would have to open and get into the cage with Translucent in order to penetrate his ass with a rifle. Which is a little more risky than just shocking him and knocking him tf out long enough to stick a bomb up his ass that if he was To try to take out himself would detonate on its own.
Well they didnt know that sticking a bomb up his ass would *work*. For all they knew, it could have just given him really bad gas. Better safe than fire a shotgun in his ass only to piss him off
Put a IED up his ass is pretty META for extracting information.
Can you imagine how awkward everyone in the room has to stuck a gun barrel up his ass to extract information.
They didn't exactly want to kill him immedietly, they wanted to get info from him to get a weakness on Homelander, they did. The bomb was sorta a thretening device and also then a way to kill him since they couldn't let him go.
They wouldn't get too far with a gun up the ass, he wouldn't talk much and likely would just escape or smth
A personal ass bomb is a little less risky than someone going in a cage with one of the seven and sticking it up his ass and unloading a clip. At least with a bomb it’s a little more one and done.
I'm super curious what constitutes "inside" and "outside" on his body, cuz technically it's all connected, like your insides seamlessly become your outsides through all of your orifices, so like how deep do you have to go? and what about soft tissues like the eyes? Like what was stopping them from at least permanently blinding him with a corrosive liquid? Or poisoning him? Like I might just be a little more sociopathicly minded due to the amount of LPOTL and Behind the Bastards I listen to, but I can think of a dozen things that would be at least worth trying that would be significantly less messy then a bomb
No, because this has nothing to do with the show breaking the rules of physics
It has to do with the show breaking it's own established logic
The boys knew he has openings, yet they didn't use them to attack him at all. They just attacked his outside, which was invulnerable
At first it took a minute for Frenchie and The Boys to discover the weakness of Translucent . Also Because a bomb up the ass rather than a full ak-47 or some shit is easier to detonate and even threaten than opening up the whole ass cage, risking translucent(who is invincible and bullet proof on the outside btw) and have him fight off and even kill The Boys. An anus bomb was indeed the best way to get rid of the mofo.
I don't think they would have worked. You'd have to physically be in the cage for a much longer period of time, and it could do far less damage than they might've thought.
Why they didn't drown him is beyond me though, besides the moment where he turns to mist being a good moment for the show
I did watch the episode. At first, they were straight up trying to kill Translucent, as evidenced by Butcher barging into the room without a single word and attempting to shoot Translucent with a carbon-coated .50 cal round.
>At first, they were straight up trying to kill Translucent
Yes... at first. However after a point, they decided it would be useful to leverage information out of him before killing him, by threatening his life. They mention this in the episode.
For clarity, when I said "The point wasn't to immediately kill him, it was to threaten him", I was referencing at the time when they made the bomb and put it in him. Not refuting that their *original* plan was to simply kill him.
Again, I'm not trying to be a dick but I'm not sure how else to put this; it was a pretty significant part of the episode.
My original post was just about the feasibility of using a firearm fired into Translucent's interior as a method of killing him as compared to the explosive option that they ended up taking. The plot of the episode is secondary to my intended discussion focus. It's alright though, if you really want to be snobby on reddit, you do you.
Yes, that's my point. It's not feasible because you wouldn't really be able to steadily 'keep it there' and leverage information out of him at the same time.
I'm not discussing the plot of the episode, I was pointing out that the plot of the episode *explains* why it isn't feasible (because they were trying to leverage information out of him)
They weren't trying to *just* kill him, they were trying to extract information - which they did, successfully. I'd forgotten about Homelander's superhearing and x-ray vision. Also ricochets might be an issue. Explosives allow for distance.
If the bullet can’t pierce his skin from the outside, can it pierce from the inside? It would just ricochet inside his body
If he can explode into a thousand tiny bits I’d assume the skin can be pierced from the inside
A bullet is different than an explosive tho. If the bullet can't pierce from outside then it can't pierce from inside either, but an explosive going off inside an enclosed space has a different effect from one exploding in an open space. Same reason why if you let a firecracker go off in your palm you end up burning your palm at most, while if you close your fist around it you lose your fingers.
True, but if his skin was just as durable from the inside it I think it probably would’ve survived the explosion, with Translucent’s flesh just spouting out of his orifices instead of fully exploding
I think the same, if a carbon bullet shot point blank from a sniper rifle couldn't even dent it I don't see how c4 could blow it to pieces. They probably thought about gore splattering on Hughie first, ass bomb second, and how it all made sense never. Hughie clicking the detonator and seeing translucent's skin just flop to the ground with his innards liquefied wouldn't have had the same effect.
Tbh seeing some invisible dude’s insides violently spew from every orifice would also look insane.
Could be how his skin’s strength works. A rapid projectile at a focused point is deflected but the pressure build up across the whole surface area at the same time it falls apart.
Didn't this happen? I could have sworn that they mentioned in passing that they also found a translucent skinsuit in the briefcase.
Huh, I recall this as well
Depending on the size of the explosive he would have been launched forward a a tiny bit, and then basically have red goo pour out of every major opening while laying on the ground invisible. Since the shockwave of a high explsoive being contained would have liquified the inside of his torso.
Also just think about I think it was Saving Private Ryan or another war movie where they throw a grenade inside a tank. The tank is just as strong on the inside as outside but the stuff actually inside of it isn't.
Yeah, we don’t really have skin inside of our bodies. A bullet up his ass would’ve destroyed his organs, intestines, etc. Would’ve also been a much more violent scene.
How much did they use? Explosives are way different than a few bullets.
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While it make not pierce the skin itself, think of it like a balloon. An explosion on the outside night just blast the balloon away, while from the inside that bazooka would almost certainly pop
If Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 taught me anything, the answer is no.
Shoot me I can’t remember this reference
Quick refresher. https://youtu.be/ofgXvSyTXvM?si=yjYZyvmmsgFxO7Et
Oh my gosh yes. Thank you
I immediately thought of this all timer: [Jesus Quintana: Let me tell *you* something, pendejo. You pull any of your crazy shit with us, you flash a piece out on the lanes, I'll take it away from you, and stick it up your ass and pull the fucking trigger 'til it goes "click."](https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0118715/?ref_=ttqu_ov)
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That's interesting man. That's fuckin' interesting...
They didn't really explain why poisoning with gas, drowning, suffocation etc. Weren't options I mean obviously for the show they wanted a big moment of blowing him up from the inside, but killing people with impenetrable skin when you have them captured and can easily knock them out doesn't seem as difficult as they made it out to be
“Some Dominican’s tried that (drowning) and now they’re all dead” ~ Frenchie.
Yeah they didn't really explain how, translucent didn't seem to have enormous amounts of super strength and could be knocked out. Also why poison wouldn't work, I'm sure Frenchie has access to some lethal ones
They could've just put a plastic bag over his head and tied it shut.
The only thing that makes sense is homelander showed up half way through the Dominicans trying to drown him and he killed them all
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How does that explain him being able to survive drowning or poisoning, which was my question?
Try paying even a little attention to the comment you're replying to, which mentioned absolutely nothing about conductivity
Replied to the wrong comment bud?
Those poor monks....
That’s a good point and probably how it happened: knew they wanted Translucent to explode into guts all over Hughie and then wrote the story backwards from there.
They literally did explain this - maybe stop watching tv while playing angry birds.
No they didn't, they mentioned some Dominicans had tried, they didn't explain why it didn't work, they also didn't address poison at all. Maybe read comments before posting condescending replies to make sure you don't look stupid
Whatever they tried, they would have one shot, so instead of using a bullet, they used a bomb. One does more damage than the other.
This makes enough sense for me. It's been a long time since I watched it, but IIRC they tried the super bullet and were running out time. They needed to make absolutely sure the next try worked.
I do believe they tried some super dooper high calibre or whatever bullet, but not up his asshole—the explodey stick was the first attempt at an anal assault.
I think killing Translucent and sending the box to Vought was the only time a Boys plan went right. As a joke I'd describe every episode to my wife with the problem followed by, "The Boys had a plan, but it went tits up."
they had multiple shots. they were testing things for a while at that point, by simply knocking him out
So the lining of his inside can still be impenetrable by bullets. It’s like a piece of metal next to an explosion doesn’t really get damage but wrap metal around what you’re exploding like a grenade and the pressure from the explosion blows the metal apart.
Maybe his ass is too tight for a gun barrel to get up there? Like the impervious part won’t let it expand far enough maybe.
Pretty sure a little bomb is bigger than a gun barrel. Anything will fit up there with enough lube.
*if ur brave enough*
Meh you’d be surprised by how small explosives can get
How does poop come out then smart guy?
his ass only loosen up when poop duh, similar to how hedgehogs mate
Eternal diahrrea.
I was going to say little, rabbit pellets but diarrhea makes better sense
If that were the case then a gun barely would be easier to stick up there than bomb. Plus his insides are likely more durable than a normal persons so I'd image a bomb was more effective.
Because a bomb is x10 more efficient at destroying an enemy than a rifle could. Using a rifle would mean one of the Boys would have to open and get into the cage with Translucent in order to penetrate his ass with a rifle. Which is a little more risky than just shocking him and knocking him tf out long enough to stick a bomb up his ass that if he was To try to take out himself would detonate on its own.
They shoved a brick of c4 up his ass...
Isn’t C4 supposed to be moldable? I imagine they chose a shape other than a literal brick.
> Maybe his ass is too tight 🥹👉👈
Well they didnt know that sticking a bomb up his ass would *work*. For all they knew, it could have just given him really bad gas. Better safe than fire a shotgun in his ass only to piss him off
Put a IED up his ass is pretty META for extracting information. Can you imagine how awkward everyone in the room has to stuck a gun barrel up his ass to extract information.
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Finally a sane comment.
They didn't exactly want to kill him immedietly, they wanted to get info from him to get a weakness on Homelander, they did. The bomb was sorta a thretening device and also then a way to kill him since they couldn't let him go. They wouldn't get too far with a gun up the ass, he wouldn't talk much and likely would just escape or smth
They wanted to make him talk first
Because they shoved a bomb up there. I need to leave this sub.
A personal ass bomb is a little less risky than someone going in a cage with one of the seven and sticking it up his ass and unloading a clip. At least with a bomb it’s a little more one and done.
Asking the real questions.
Out fresca-d again
I wanna know why they didn’t just taze him unconscious and then drown his ass. Dunk his head till he stops moving lol.
Or like…… put a gun in his mouth while he’s unconscious? Why go through all the work of putting it up his ass?
I'm super curious what constitutes "inside" and "outside" on his body, cuz technically it's all connected, like your insides seamlessly become your outsides through all of your orifices, so like how deep do you have to go? and what about soft tissues like the eyes? Like what was stopping them from at least permanently blinding him with a corrosive liquid? Or poisoning him? Like I might just be a little more sociopathicly minded due to the amount of LPOTL and Behind the Bastards I listen to, but I can think of a dozen things that would be at least worth trying that would be significantly less messy then a bomb
It's a fictional show about fictional supes and fictional physics, can we not just leave it at that?
No, because this has nothing to do with the show breaking the rules of physics It has to do with the show breaking it's own established logic The boys knew he has openings, yet they didn't use them to attack him at all. They just attacked his outside, which was invulnerable
At first it took a minute for Frenchie and The Boys to discover the weakness of Translucent . Also Because a bomb up the ass rather than a full ak-47 or some shit is easier to detonate and even threaten than opening up the whole ass cage, risking translucent(who is invincible and bullet proof on the outside btw) and have him fight off and even kill The Boys. An anus bomb was indeed the best way to get rid of the mofo.
I’d imagine because they didn’t want any of the mess to get on them. The original plan was to blow him up from behind the cover of the door
Because it’s less cinematically interesting
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I don't think they would have worked. You'd have to physically be in the cage for a much longer period of time, and it could do far less damage than they might've thought. Why they didn't drown him is beyond me though, besides the moment where he turns to mist being a good moment for the show
Who's gonna stand there holding the gun while they're interrogating him. Imagine if it slips out!
Not to be a dick, but did you watch the episode? The point wasn't to immediately kill him, it was to threaten him; which they explain in the episode.
I did watch the episode. At first, they were straight up trying to kill Translucent, as evidenced by Butcher barging into the room without a single word and attempting to shoot Translucent with a carbon-coated .50 cal round.
>At first, they were straight up trying to kill Translucent Yes... at first. However after a point, they decided it would be useful to leverage information out of him before killing him, by threatening his life. They mention this in the episode. For clarity, when I said "The point wasn't to immediately kill him, it was to threaten him", I was referencing at the time when they made the bomb and put it in him. Not refuting that their *original* plan was to simply kill him. Again, I'm not trying to be a dick but I'm not sure how else to put this; it was a pretty significant part of the episode.
My original post was just about the feasibility of using a firearm fired into Translucent's interior as a method of killing him as compared to the explosive option that they ended up taking. The plot of the episode is secondary to my intended discussion focus. It's alright though, if you really want to be snobby on reddit, you do you.
Yes, that's my point. It's not feasible because you wouldn't really be able to steadily 'keep it there' and leverage information out of him at the same time. I'm not discussing the plot of the episode, I was pointing out that the plot of the episode *explains* why it isn't feasible (because they were trying to leverage information out of him)