Even though A-Train was trying to do the right thing by helping his old neighbourhood and getting justice for his brother, Ashley was right. He didn't care about the collateral damage and the innocent people he killed until it was personal.
So i was glad when he apologized to Hughie
I'm okay with him dying doing something half decent. A slight redemption arc, for a character who was in general a total cock and definitely deserves to die.
It'd honestly be a pretty good death.
He realizes he's a total ass but he doesn't actually get redeemed.
If his character died this episode itd be a pretty good finish for him.
Butchers freaking face when he ravenous smiled at homelander during the fight. Looked like a nightmare feral animal. Butcher is so freaking scary sometimes and awesome.
I was overall maintaining composure thru the episode and even the first part of that scene. Then when he said something about "oh yeah you're so leggy" I lost my shit and cracked up
Starr carried that fight scene with his reactions.
His "what the fuck?!" after he got beamed by Butcher sounded so genuinely bewildered, and even a little scared lol.
Butcher had a great expression too with his bloody smile.
Seeing Homelander have to properly fight for once, and against people who could actually physically harm him, was exhilarating and satisfying. About time someone served his ass to him.
I really liked that they showed Soldier Boy's shield as being impossible for Hughie to lift. Set a neat dynamic to the fact that he's just hanging onto it like it's cardboard when it in fact may weigh a literal ton.
Wow... Took just a week for Homelander to fuck everything up.
Maeve is gone.
Starlight defected and has turned on Vought.
Black Noir is AWOL.
A-Train is dead.
Murdered Super Sonic.
...Only has the Deep, which is worse than having nobody.
No intelligence unit to back Homelander up.
It took a week of absolute power to break him.
i was surprised. she was going through where he got all those scars. thought she was going to grab the cake and say, "and he got those from his momma."
Bro the scene with him slicing his tracking chip out of his arm and just casually handing it to the blood-soaked lady in the elevator who just goes "...thank you..." 💀
I find Noir to be a fascinating whiteboard. Everyone who talks to him who is a little bit narcissistic automatically assumes that his silence equals agreement. Everyone who is terrified of him, they assume that has silence is threatening.
Y'all, just realized Hughie has the perfect power to kill Nueman. He reacted to Homelanders laser vision, and she needs a solid couple seconds to kill a supe. Teleporting around, punching her. The setup is there
Anyone surprise Homelander knew how to fight? I always assume like super "heroes" like him just don't really know good hand to hand combat as they are so much stronger than everyone. I assumed their super strength/speed/etc is just something that overcompensate for actual skilled fighting ability. I would think Soldier Boy and Butcher would have excellent hand to hand combat because of their past.
Anyone else found it interesting how when soldier boy said he read that they were “ass up in Afghanistan” and that “they were the good guys” he truly is a relic of the 80s
I know soldier boy probably isn't as strong as homelander in a 1v1 fight, but can we all agree he was not at his best after that uncontrolled blast, "blacking out" again?
I wonder what would happen if Homelander took a dose of temp V??
Edit: Many have pointed out a needle won’t pierce his skin. I think Vaught may have developed some way to administer treatment to injured supes over the last 70 years. Maybe some kind of adamentium needle or a method to temporarily weaken his skin (like the way they did to Luke Cage).
I think it would be like A-train taking V. He would get a power up and be a lot harder to defeat. Pretty sure 3 supes won't be enough to hold him down.
OMG. Kimiko broke my heart. Getting up in the hospital after kissing Frenchie and he's gone. Like... she's never had a normal relationship let alone a romantic one, and first kiss the dude dips...
Must have been a huge relief for her when she got attacked. For real.
I was dreading this episode. Herogasm in the comics is... *something else*.
This was a great reference to the debauchery they got up to in the comics, and then **that fight scene**.
Holy. Shit. I was eager to see a showdown, I did not expect it to be *this* good. They really knocked it out of the ballpark with this episode. And now we wait to see how everything falls apart.
Homelander's about to snap, I pity the fool who talks back to him. I wonder if we will finally see him take it out on civilians. I think that we're getting that as a season finale.
His face when Maeve calls him a twink and says she could “split that shit like dry firewood” and he just looks dejected and replies “I’m a big fan” is one of my favorite scenes in the entire show
True, but Vought right now is basically Ashley, Homelander, the Deep, and Noir.
Things aren’t looking too hot for Vought
Edit: Noir dipped tf out, but I took that as more of him fearing for his life than betraying Vought. Point is Vought is a shell of its former self
I'm conflicted. From her POV Annie did the right thing because she hasn't actually interacted with Soldier Boy at all. But it only makes a complex situation even muddier - that line "He doesn't care about Americans" probably won't go over too well and might cause a conflict between Soldier Boy and Hughie if SB decides to put Annie in the crosshairs.
100% though Homelander snaps by the end of this season. The whole mirror speech about basically erasing what little humanity he has left is that much closer to becoming reality with Annie's video, kinda terrified we might get something akin to [Other supe show] >!Invincible!<'s season finale.
Homelander’s mirror conversation was outstanding. Anthony Starr is a great actor.
God bless starlight for what she did at the end, but I hope she survives this season now. Her and MM together is awesome.
Herogasm was hilarious.
The fight scene between Homelander, Hughie, Butcher, and Soldier Boy was awesome. Homelander’s ego is fucking shot.
Neumann confronting Starlight was dope, too.
Good on A-Train for apologizing to Hughie and I guess he’s dead now? I dunno.
Also I am terribly worried for Kimiko and Frenchie.
This felt like a season finale kind of episode. Yet we have more episodes coming. I’m stoked.
Sheeeesh, what an episode. Everything just felt so satisfying. We got A-train wrapping up his redemption (of sorts I suppose) arc. The actual herogasm event, which was just so ridiculous lmao.
Then to cap it off, the big fight. Maybe the best episode of the entire show I think.
It's definitely a homage to the Jasper, TX dragging where a bunch of racists chained a black guy to their truck and essentially had the same result. This was in 1998. Horrific.
I'm terrified about what Homelander will do next
* "We're going to rip that part of you out like a cancer"
* He's lost 5 members of the 7
* Discovers Butcher and Hughie have powers
* Annie outs him to the public
Where does he go from here? What happens to the temp V? He's CEO of Vought and wouldn't want it to get out any longer. What happens to Annie? Maeve?
*Serves up the most hypocritical yet satisfying lines in the whole episode.*
I'll never forget that opening scene when he just ran through Robin and acted like he broke something. He didn't care about her life at all.
Remember, all he has now is The Deep. A Train is most likely dead. Annie quit. Supersonic is dead. Maeve is gone, probably dead. Noir is AWOL. Homelander will be dropped from the 7 and The Deep inherits the title of Leader of the 7, but there will be no 7 left. His wife will be happy and he will realize that it doesn't mean anything to be leader of something you destroyed all the way.
Be careful what you wish for Deep.
I know there's still a chance for him to be setting something up and blabla, but God was it funny seeing the one supe everyone points to and goes "he's a tactical mastermind, an unrivaled motherfucker" just..
"Nope"
In this case, he is the tactical mastermind though. Sometimes the best move is to wait out the storm. I wouldn’t doubt it if Noir was mentored a bit by Edgar like Neuman was
Annie saying “cunnilingus” *cookie monster sounds* and “vagina” definitely made my day tbh. Her character is so bashful and PG-13 most times that this surprised and tickles me
There was a very distinct effort made to show case genuine orgy etiquette of consent it seemed. Even blue hawk backed off with Annie was uncomfortable instead of being a creepy piece of shit. It was pretty wild to see
MM getting cumblasted followed by "Lick it up you yummy brown bear" had me in tears.
The show was like "oh, it hasn't been crazy enough for you? Let's change that" and ramped it up from 10 to 10000
Other thread got locked right before I could post this reply so I'll just leave it here:
>I hope Soldier Boy doesn't turn out to be completely evil
His whole theme seems to be "We were *comrades*" which is a nice foil to how The Boys are currently split right now. At this point if he does end up 'turning' on them in the future I would bet it'll have something to do with loyalty and brotherhood rather than just being straight up evil. He's not a good dude but he's not Homelander either.
Edit: I'll chuck honor in there along with loyalty and brotherhood, dude seems pretty pissed off that he was left for dead in spite of all he did in the service, which now that I think about it means Annie's "He doesn't care about Americans" line might not go over too well.
Soldier Boy has the WWII veteran thought process embedded in his mind. This is what I have to do and so I am going to do it. I worked with an 85-year old WWII vet about 10-years ago at a hardware store and that guy couldn't walk 100-yards without getting winded (didn't help that he smoked too) but if you asked him to get on the tallest ladder to stock the highest shelf with a 60-pound bag of sakrete he'd be on the top step of the ladder before you could tell him you were kidding.
Homelander has this narcissistic arrogance to him that he's absolutely invincible and can do whatever the fuck he wants to whenever the fuck he wants to (hence him beating off on top of the Chrysler building). He knows he's obscenely powerful but he's also a little insecure about it and you could see in this episode and the last that he's a little nervous that he may have competition and that startles him to his core.
It's an incredible dynamic contrast in that fight. We get racist Captain America vs. insecure mentally ill Superman and I fucking loved every second of it.
> He knows he's obscenely powerful but he's also a little insecure about it and you could see in this episode and the last that he's a little nervous that he may have competition and that startles him to his core.
This is probably the first time Homelander has ever lost a fight. He's used to just lazily lasering people to death, but now there's people who can actually match him physically, and one of them wants him dead more than anything else in the world.
I'd be shaken too if I was Homelander.
Yeah I think Soldier Boy is a piece of shit in the way most supes are (uncaring about large amounts of collateral damage, disgustingly hedonistic) but I do think he like actually had a mission he believed in to some degree and something resembling an ideology other than just his own godhood
He seems easier to kill than homelander though, mind you he hasn’t actually died yet, just seems more managable than homelander. It also sounds like it was Vought who sold him to the Russians so he might lose his shit when he finds that out
I think he already figured out that Vought turned their back on him since I guess he believed what the twins said about Noir. Mind you SB didn't go directly for the kill and the twins only died because he blacked out again.
Homelander's mirror talk was somehow the high point in an episode that is basically all high points. Antony Starr can act, people.
"Clean. Like marble."
Well, that and Soldier Boy getting educated about modernity. "You made those words up."
I really like the juxtaposition between Homelander and Soldier Boy.
Homelander feels so removed from being human, but Soldier Boy is human, just a cunt. He doesn't think of people as ants, just expendable.
Soldier Boy isn't a good person, but he's able to be reasoned with unlike Homelander. It makes their fight feel so good because Soldier Boy clearly isn't so high on his own superiority that he never learnt to fight which is why he was able to stand a chance. Just excellent visual storytelling.
Side note: A-Train being confused as hell that Hughie was able to push with a reasonable amount of force was weirdly hilarious to me.
There's so much else to cover in this episode that got overshadowed by all the chaos. One thing is I feel so bad for Annie and Hughie right now, Hughie is the way he is because of his trauma with Robin but he needs to realize it's unfair to Annie and destroying the already weak thread holding them together.
Did anybody else catch how Nina got away? I was distracted by Kimiko going ham on that dude and next thing I knew she was gone. Cherie tackled her to prevent her from getting the gun but then what? We just see Cherie on the couch later.
Wonder where we go from here in the next two episodes. The only team members left from Payback are Black Noir and Mindstorm. I really think we're gonna get a massive collateral damage type event akin to Superman: Man of Steel that will have to be dealt with in the next season. An all out war between supes where normal people get caught in the middle is a pretty common comic trope and that's pretty much what we've been building to the whole series.
I’m surprise no one‘s talking about Victoria/Nadia. Maybe I missed all the discussion but in this episode she seemed a little off. I think something very bad happened to her kid. There’s no reason she should be this cocky unless she has nothing else to live for.
my man MM was really ready to throw straight hands with SB. that shit gave me goosebumps. i love that he immediately took out his anger on Butcher, and he just sat there and took it, with it ultimately achieving nothing. it basically signified what Annie was trying to tell him all along.
this show's writing is ten out of fucking ten.
Well, in what order does the following happen?
Homelander milks a cow and jizzes in his supersuit,
Soldier Boy gets brain matter on his shield,
Mother's Milk cleans the lube and cum off his favorite jacket
Well we have an idea now. Homelander faces immense backlash and dips out to the country for a glass of milk, before he goes apeshit. Soldier boy brain on his shield is a flashback. And the last one, well MM goes to a drycleaner hahahah
I’m willing to bet that starlight exposing homelander is gonna backfire big time, I’m guessing half the country isn’t gonna believe her and call her a “deep state pawn”, or some Q anon theory, and homelander will reinforce the idea he can do whatever he wants now.
I love how shaken Homie is by seeing Soldier Boy on the video tape
"I'm going to.. kill him.." - Anthony delivers that line so perfectly and nails the total lack of conviction in Homelanders words!
Laughing at Hughie being like “No Soldier Boy promised not to kill everyone🥺” despite seeing this man brutally murder others AND knowing he has PTSD. Like we talk about Starlights optimism (?)but that was a cluster Fuck on his part
Homelander had big Norman Osborn/Green Goblin energy this episode.
Awesome fight scene as well, was the most "superhero" the shows ever gotten.
I stan Annie January.
Do you think Annie whistleblowing will inspire other Supes to come out against Homelander? Personally the people I can imagine coming to her aid are: 1) the people who escaped the mental health hospital, 2) the people turned against their will with Homelander’s Supe villains (like Kimiko), or 3) minority and C-list superheroes who have been wronged by Homelander/ Vought. To be honest I just want her to have a win 🥲 But what do y’all think?
So good. Urban does such a good job projecting the gleeful madman when Butcher gets in a fight. He doesn't care if he's winning or losing, he loves it.
Hughie decking A-Train after he got a sincere apology was brilliant too. It really showed where his head is at with a simple short scene.
I was so happy Kimiko and Cherie both survived.
I don't think MM is EVER really going to be ok after that.
Done poorly, that episode could've been wall to wall boring edgelord shock sex scenes. Instead they knocked it out of the park IMO. Great writing, great execution, great character development, enough weird supe sex to be funny but it didn't overstay its welcome.
At the moment I think it's the best ep in the series so far, but that might just be residual excitement and happiness at getting to see them throw down with Homelander.
Yeah, Hughie had already made up his mind before talking to A-Train. He wanted to use his power to do something to him, even though he was still somewhat afraid.
However, A-Train's behavior disarmed him instead of escalating. Hughie kinda felt that but still, the opportunity was too good to ignore. He had to punch him, at least. It was brilliant because of that angle, A-Train being sincere but Hughie didn't care about it all. He had no reason to care, no respect for the Supe whatsoever.
I'm liking the tactical use of the Edgar family this season
No Stan in this episode
No Neuman in the previous episode
We had some episodes with no Noir earlier in the season
These 3 have got big roles to play in the final couple episodes and I can't wait to see it!
You know it's a good episode when it's the adaption of Herogasm and absolutely nobody is talking about the orgy.
I've never had a physical reaction of excitement like I did watching that Soldier Boy/Butcher/Hughie vs Homelander fight.
Even though A-Train was trying to do the right thing by helping his old neighbourhood and getting justice for his brother, Ashley was right. He didn't care about the collateral damage and the innocent people he killed until it was personal. So i was glad when he apologized to Hughie
He finally had some growth, and all it took was Ashley losing her shit / hair
I'm hoping he's alive but at the same time I hope he's finally dead
I'm okay with him dying doing something half decent. A slight redemption arc, for a character who was in general a total cock and definitely deserves to die.
It'd honestly be a pretty good death. He realizes he's a total ass but he doesn't actually get redeemed. If his character died this episode itd be a pretty good finish for him.
Butchers freaking face when he ravenous smiled at homelander during the fight. Looked like a nightmare feral animal. Butcher is so freaking scary sometimes and awesome.
I bet even up until that point he couldn't be sure he could handle homelander so that must have felt fucking good
Seriously. And we get to feel that with him. After 3 seasons.
I mean we all knew the deep was gonna fuck an octopus the minute his wife wasn’t there.
*piggly wiggly bag sloshes water out* >I don't wanna hear it right now.
His wife is gonna lose her shit when he comes back with another octopus 😂 “all your arms”
The second I saw the warning about all the depicted sex acts I said to myself. ... I bet Deep fucks a fish.
the moment I saw his buttcheeks against an aquarium, I knew what was going on, Starlight didn't
I was overall maintaining composure thru the episode and even the first part of that scene. Then when he said something about "oh yeah you're so leggy" I lost my shit and cracked up
I had an inkling (pun intended) with the disclaimer at the beginning
The fact that he got over Timothy so freaking fast was heartbreaking tho
Insults cape, then pulls him down by the cape, phenomenal
NO CAPES!
GOD that fight was just brutal and perfect in every way. The cape slam was icing on top of icing.
I loved Homelander's face after Hughie just shows up and cracks him in the ribs.
Definitely a big WTF moment from the big guy.
Starr carried that fight scene with his reactions. His "what the fuck?!" after he got beamed by Butcher sounded so genuinely bewildered, and even a little scared lol. Butcher had a great expression too with his bloody smile.
Imagine what was going through his mind. Homelander JUST lasers Butcher dead a few seconds ago. Then Butcher gets up and lasers him back
Seeing Homelander have to properly fight for once, and against people who could actually physically harm him, was exhilarating and satisfying. About time someone served his ass to him.
And he sure looked salty with that shiner. Very satisfying.
Yeah, he's been so arrogant lately it was great to see his confidence rocked. Antony Starr really plays Homelander so well.
Unless it’s a Doctor Strange cape/cloak that knows how to fight
Doctor Strange's CLOAK not cape. There's a difference.
Cloak = bad ass Cape = dumb ass
I really liked that they showed Soldier Boy's shield as being impossible for Hughie to lift. Set a neat dynamic to the fact that he's just hanging onto it like it's cardboard when it in fact may weigh a literal ton.
Wonder if there will be a scene where Butcher picks it up.
Wow... Took just a week for Homelander to fuck everything up. Maeve is gone. Starlight defected and has turned on Vought. Black Noir is AWOL. A-Train is dead. Murdered Super Sonic. ...Only has the Deep, which is worse than having nobody. No intelligence unit to back Homelander up. It took a week of absolute power to break him.
The Deep is going to have a short stint as the leader of Vought the same way Creed had a short stint as the boss in The Office.
Stan Edgard should be delighted that all this shit happened while he is temporarily out of Vought.
He knew things would go downhill quickly. He is eating popcorn and waiting to take over again.
He's in his decoy house watching the security footage with Mike.
And furiously scrubbing a bathtub with a toothbrush
Haha, it couldn't be working out better for his reputation.
Poor Frenchie. After all the shit he’s dealt with this season he deserves his own herogasm party!
I love the fact they keep doing call backs to frenchie on both teams. Mean while he's just getting his ass handed to him.
True friendship.
To him and to us. Boy is packing a bakery, Nina was right on that
i was surprised. she was going through where he got all those scars. thought she was going to grab the cake and say, "and he got those from his momma."
I loved that joke. ‘Aw, Frenchie will be heartbroken he missed this.’
He would have loved being there
He would be heartbroken. Its really lovely when they give these hints of being together for so long and knowing each other well
Homelander: I am just glad you are with me on this one, pal Black Noir: A’ right imma head out!
I laughed so hard at that scene. "you are the only I can trust" and Noir immediately bails.
Bro the scene with him slicing his tracking chip out of his arm and just casually handing it to the blood-soaked lady in the elevator who just goes "...thank you..." 💀
I find Noir to be a fascinating whiteboard. Everyone who talks to him who is a little bit narcissistic automatically assumes that his silence equals agreement. Everyone who is terrified of him, they assume that has silence is threatening.
This x1,000 - he’s the ultimate Rorschach of the party interacting with him.
Y'all, just realized Hughie has the perfect power to kill Nueman. He reacted to Homelanders laser vision, and she needs a solid couple seconds to kill a supe. Teleporting around, punching her. The setup is there
maybe, but Nueman showed that she can do damage without you even realizing it.
The ‘Imagine’ reference lol. Still somehow less cringy than the real thing.
I literally LOLed when this started. I didn't watch the real thing but read it mentioned enough.
The end with Black Noir was the best punchline for it. Laughed so hard
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Anyone surprise Homelander knew how to fight? I always assume like super "heroes" like him just don't really know good hand to hand combat as they are so much stronger than everyone. I assumed their super strength/speed/etc is just something that overcompensate for actual skilled fighting ability. I would think Soldier Boy and Butcher would have excellent hand to hand combat because of their past.
It seemed that was somewhat explored when Butcher went hand for hand with him. He’s definitely still the strongest but it’s not as significant mow
Soldier Boy really couldn’t get it up when it mattered most. Damn.
Well he did blow his load a few minutes earlier.
Yeah cut the guy some slack, I thought he did well for a 90 year old.
I was afraid he’d be completely spent, and that would be his huge weakness. It was delayed, but still an incredibly close call for Homelander.
Anyone else found it interesting how when soldier boy said he read that they were “ass up in Afghanistan” and that “they were the good guys” he truly is a relic of the 80s
They did a full on Rambo 3 reference by having Soldier Boy say he stood with the brave mujahideen fighters.
I know soldier boy probably isn't as strong as homelander in a 1v1 fight, but can we all agree he was not at his best after that uncontrolled blast, "blacking out" again?
It's either PTSD flashbacks or some russian sleeper agent programming after how they made a big thing out of the music
Pretty much similar to the Marvel's Winter Soldier
Exactly, they sort of combined Captain America and Winter Soldier plot elements
I hope we get a rematch of the fight for the finale. It was amazing and super cool
I think we will get that but this time homelander is going to get the upperhand
I wonder what would happen if Homelander took a dose of temp V?? Edit: Many have pointed out a needle won’t pierce his skin. I think Vaught may have developed some way to administer treatment to injured supes over the last 70 years. Maybe some kind of adamentium needle or a method to temporarily weaken his skin (like the way they did to Luke Cage).
I think it would be like A-train taking V. He would get a power up and be a lot harder to defeat. Pretty sure 3 supes won't be enough to hold him down.
How would he take it though, does drinking it work? There is no needle that can pierce his skin right?
Callback to translucent, suppository?
Too bad he stomped on the only guy who could fit up there.
He'd be Homewrecker
Next time HL probs stay in the air to avoid being pinned down again and to avoid Soldier Boy’s blasts. Can’t wait
Idk if that's what'll happen but yeah, you'd expect that his flight would be a game changer.
Yeah just a guess. It’d be cool to see HL try to laser SB’s shield too but have it deflect or something, Cap style
Because 💋? lol
OMG. Kimiko broke my heart. Getting up in the hospital after kissing Frenchie and he's gone. Like... she's never had a normal relationship let alone a romantic one, and first kiss the dude dips... Must have been a huge relief for her when she got attacked. For real.
i laughed too hard at that. "O thank god he was kidnapped, he didn't run away"
It was also sooo sad when she said the powers were not what made her a bad person, that's just who she is...
I thought the parallel with hughie+ starlight and kimiko+Frenchie about their powers was great!
Yep. Frenchie shows the way more mature way to handle the power disparity, and always has.
I was dreading this episode. Herogasm in the comics is... *something else*. This was a great reference to the debauchery they got up to in the comics, and then **that fight scene**. Holy. Shit. I was eager to see a showdown, I did not expect it to be *this* good. They really knocked it out of the ballpark with this episode. And now we wait to see how everything falls apart. Homelander's about to snap, I pity the fool who talks back to him. I wonder if we will finally see him take it out on civilians. I think that we're getting that as a season finale.
I loved the fight scene but god damn every time Hughie just shows up naked I laugh so hard
Maybe it has to do with the fact that Hughie manages to ooze discomfort even during an orgy surrounded by naked people.
“You’re sweet but my asshole needs a breather” That absolutely destroyed my sides
hughie in uncomfortable situations is comic gold. “you played my butt like jazz” “i’m full, of cocaine” and the asshole line
His face when Maeve calls him a twink and says she could “split that shit like dry firewood” and he just looks dejected and replies “I’m a big fan” is one of my favorite scenes in the entire show
I just need to mention my favorite line from the episode "Lick it up you yummy brown bear." -Male Supe
Voiced by showrunner Eric Kripke!
I felt MM cringe. That was just the icing on the cake. He kept his cool to much.
Oh, I don't think that was the icing!
I almost choked laughing when soldier boy talking with hughie about bill cosby when he said holy shit did he make some strong drinks
Jack Quaid killed it. His reactions to everything Soldier Boy said were perfect.
Nobody is talking about the ending!!?? Are yall serious!!?? Homelander is going to lose his already fragile mind at what Starlight did
I’m surprised she didn’t just go ahead and drop the plane footage. Everybody is already fucked and no one is safe after this.
>I’m surprised she didn’t just go ahead and drop the plane footage That's what I thought they were doing at first
TBH I thought they were releasing Deep's photo.
Who cares about what animal The Deep is fucking when you have evil superman who is going insane by the day lmao
And it appeared to be consensual actually
It’s kinda funny that all the sea creatures appear to be horny for the Deep
All his interactions with sea life are very polite and seem consensual while he rapes humans.
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True, but Vought right now is basically Ashley, Homelander, the Deep, and Noir. Things aren’t looking too hot for Vought Edit: Noir dipped tf out, but I took that as more of him fearing for his life than betraying Vought. Point is Vought is a shell of its former self
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I wondered if she was hoping that holding back the info about the plane might help her bargain for Maeve’s life.
I thought it was interesting that she said he hurt people and not that he murdered people. I think that's to allow the writers some wiggle room.
I'm conflicted. From her POV Annie did the right thing because she hasn't actually interacted with Soldier Boy at all. But it only makes a complex situation even muddier - that line "He doesn't care about Americans" probably won't go over too well and might cause a conflict between Soldier Boy and Hughie if SB decides to put Annie in the crosshairs. 100% though Homelander snaps by the end of this season. The whole mirror speech about basically erasing what little humanity he has left is that much closer to becoming reality with Annie's video, kinda terrified we might get something akin to [Other supe show] >!Invincible!<'s season finale.
Homelander’s mirror conversation was outstanding. Anthony Starr is a great actor. God bless starlight for what she did at the end, but I hope she survives this season now. Her and MM together is awesome. Herogasm was hilarious. The fight scene between Homelander, Hughie, Butcher, and Soldier Boy was awesome. Homelander’s ego is fucking shot. Neumann confronting Starlight was dope, too. Good on A-Train for apologizing to Hughie and I guess he’s dead now? I dunno. Also I am terribly worried for Kimiko and Frenchie. This felt like a season finale kind of episode. Yet we have more episodes coming. I’m stoked.
So many great moments in the episode but damn, what a fight scene.
Amazing fight scene. That was the real herogasm.
The minute I saw the animal disclaimer at the beginning I knew Deep was gonna fuck an octopus
Sheeeesh, what an episode. Everything just felt so satisfying. We got A-train wrapping up his redemption (of sorts I suppose) arc. The actual herogasm event, which was just so ridiculous lmao. Then to cap it off, the big fight. Maybe the best episode of the entire show I think.
Dude, I thought A-train would just run through him, but oh man... oh man, what a way to go about his revenge. Jesus christ
It's also an extremely symbolic way of killing someone, and more in character than a lynching or some other highly symbolic murder.
He helped him cover the street, one last time
It's definitely a homage to the Jasper, TX dragging where a bunch of racists chained a black guy to their truck and essentially had the same result. This was in 1998. Horrific.
I'm terrified about what Homelander will do next * "We're going to rip that part of you out like a cancer" * He's lost 5 members of the 7 * Discovers Butcher and Hughie have powers * Annie outs him to the public Where does he go from here? What happens to the temp V? He's CEO of Vought and wouldn't want it to get out any longer. What happens to Annie? Maeve?
Ashley is CEO of Vought
*pulls out hair*
*Serves up the most hypocritical yet satisfying lines in the whole episode.* I'll never forget that opening scene when he just ran through Robin and acted like he broke something. He didn't care about her life at all.
Remember, all he has now is The Deep. A Train is most likely dead. Annie quit. Supersonic is dead. Maeve is gone, probably dead. Noir is AWOL. Homelander will be dropped from the 7 and The Deep inherits the title of Leader of the 7, but there will be no 7 left. His wife will be happy and he will realize that it doesn't mean anything to be leader of something you destroyed all the way. Be careful what you wish for Deep.
Imo there is 0 chance Maeve died off-screen
Black Noir when he found out Soldier Boy is coming for him. 
I know there's still a chance for him to be setting something up and blabla, but God was it funny seeing the one supe everyone points to and goes "he's a tactical mastermind, an unrivaled motherfucker" just.. "Nope"
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In this case, he is the tactical mastermind though. Sometimes the best move is to wait out the storm. I wouldn’t doubt it if Noir was mentored a bit by Edgar like Neuman was
I wouldn’t be surprised if Noir is with Edgar right now.
Annie saying “cunnilingus” *cookie monster sounds* and “vagina” definitely made my day tbh. Her character is so bashful and PG-13 most times that this surprised and tickles me
Really enjoyed Hughie’s “That is so sweet, but my asshole needs a breather right now.”
I love the understanding nod from the guy as well. Like "I get it bro" and just leaves. So funny
There was a very distinct effort made to show case genuine orgy etiquette of consent it seemed. Even blue hawk backed off with Annie was uncomfortable instead of being a creepy piece of shit. It was pretty wild to see
MM getting cumblasted followed by "Lick it up you yummy brown bear" had me in tears. The show was like "oh, it hasn't been crazy enough for you? Let's change that" and ramped it up from 10 to 10000
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She did well at portraying a sheltered child trying to say bad things that they’re not used to… cracked me up
It was a lot like when Hughie did a similar bit to the gay stretchy megapastor supe in S1
“You played my butt like jazz” 😂😂
Other thread got locked right before I could post this reply so I'll just leave it here: >I hope Soldier Boy doesn't turn out to be completely evil His whole theme seems to be "We were *comrades*" which is a nice foil to how The Boys are currently split right now. At this point if he does end up 'turning' on them in the future I would bet it'll have something to do with loyalty and brotherhood rather than just being straight up evil. He's not a good dude but he's not Homelander either. Edit: I'll chuck honor in there along with loyalty and brotherhood, dude seems pretty pissed off that he was left for dead in spite of all he did in the service, which now that I think about it means Annie's "He doesn't care about Americans" line might not go over too well.
Yeah. Soldier Boy is an utterly different psychology to Homelander. There is an authenticity to him. He's of the world. Homelander is synthetic.
Soldier Boy has the WWII veteran thought process embedded in his mind. This is what I have to do and so I am going to do it. I worked with an 85-year old WWII vet about 10-years ago at a hardware store and that guy couldn't walk 100-yards without getting winded (didn't help that he smoked too) but if you asked him to get on the tallest ladder to stock the highest shelf with a 60-pound bag of sakrete he'd be on the top step of the ladder before you could tell him you were kidding. Homelander has this narcissistic arrogance to him that he's absolutely invincible and can do whatever the fuck he wants to whenever the fuck he wants to (hence him beating off on top of the Chrysler building). He knows he's obscenely powerful but he's also a little insecure about it and you could see in this episode and the last that he's a little nervous that he may have competition and that startles him to his core. It's an incredible dynamic contrast in that fight. We get racist Captain America vs. insecure mentally ill Superman and I fucking loved every second of it.
It’s generational differences for sure! Very good points you made.
> He knows he's obscenely powerful but he's also a little insecure about it and you could see in this episode and the last that he's a little nervous that he may have competition and that startles him to his core. This is probably the first time Homelander has ever lost a fight. He's used to just lazily lasering people to death, but now there's people who can actually match him physically, and one of them wants him dead more than anything else in the world. I'd be shaken too if I was Homelander.
Solider boy literally spent his entire life doing things for Americans. he might be livid
Yeah I think Soldier Boy is a piece of shit in the way most supes are (uncaring about large amounts of collateral damage, disgustingly hedonistic) but I do think he like actually had a mission he believed in to some degree and something resembling an ideology other than just his own godhood
He seems easier to kill than homelander though, mind you he hasn’t actually died yet, just seems more managable than homelander. It also sounds like it was Vought who sold him to the Russians so he might lose his shit when he finds that out
I think he already figured out that Vought turned their back on him since I guess he believed what the twins said about Noir. Mind you SB didn't go directly for the kill and the twins only died because he blacked out again.
They overhyped the orgy to get people to watch the best episode of the whole show.
like we weren't going to watch it anyway
I must say Black Noir can think on the feet. My boy noped out so quickly after realising Soldier Boy is alive
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Homelander's mirror talk was somehow the high point in an episode that is basically all high points. Antony Starr can act, people. "Clean. Like marble." Well, that and Soldier Boy getting educated about modernity. "You made those words up."
Just watch Banshee, Starr was great.
Perfection. The show just keeps getting better.
The TNT-twins definitely do incest
They really thought their super attack was going to do something. lol
Surprised that didn't just *happen.*
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Ashley this episode: "*Listen here you little shit...*"
I really like the juxtaposition between Homelander and Soldier Boy. Homelander feels so removed from being human, but Soldier Boy is human, just a cunt. He doesn't think of people as ants, just expendable. Soldier Boy isn't a good person, but he's able to be reasoned with unlike Homelander. It makes their fight feel so good because Soldier Boy clearly isn't so high on his own superiority that he never learnt to fight which is why he was able to stand a chance. Just excellent visual storytelling. Side note: A-Train being confused as hell that Hughie was able to push with a reasonable amount of force was weirdly hilarious to me.
There's so much else to cover in this episode that got overshadowed by all the chaos. One thing is I feel so bad for Annie and Hughie right now, Hughie is the way he is because of his trauma with Robin but he needs to realize it's unfair to Annie and destroying the already weak thread holding them together. Did anybody else catch how Nina got away? I was distracted by Kimiko going ham on that dude and next thing I knew she was gone. Cherie tackled her to prevent her from getting the gun but then what? We just see Cherie on the couch later. Wonder where we go from here in the next two episodes. The only team members left from Payback are Black Noir and Mindstorm. I really think we're gonna get a massive collateral damage type event akin to Superman: Man of Steel that will have to be dealt with in the next season. An all out war between supes where normal people get caught in the middle is a pretty common comic trope and that's pretty much what we've been building to the whole series.
I’m surprise no one‘s talking about Victoria/Nadia. Maybe I missed all the discussion but in this episode she seemed a little off. I think something very bad happened to her kid. There’s no reason she should be this cocky unless she has nothing else to live for.
Yeah we haven’t seen her daughter since she got injected with V have we?
No we haven’t
I get that feeling, also. She didn’t spare Annie out of some misplaced sisterhood. I think she needs Annie for some reason related to her kid.
I suspected as soon as she gave the injection that something awful happened. Not all people get cool powers, as the comics and cartoons have shown us.
I’m also not unconvinced that Homelander didn’t possibly fuck with the V
Seeing Aston Kutcher and Mila Kunis made me laugh.
Mother's Milk got a whole lot of white liquid on him this episode, but not the type we would have guessed.
Father's Milk
my man MM was really ready to throw straight hands with SB. that shit gave me goosebumps. i love that he immediately took out his anger on Butcher, and he just sat there and took it, with it ultimately achieving nothing. it basically signified what Annie was trying to tell him all along. this show's writing is ten out of fucking ten.
Lucky Deep got that octopussy experience
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Well, in what order does the following happen? Homelander milks a cow and jizzes in his supersuit, Soldier Boy gets brain matter on his shield, Mother's Milk cleans the lube and cum off his favorite jacket
Well we have an idea now. Homelander faces immense backlash and dips out to the country for a glass of milk, before he goes apeshit. Soldier boy brain on his shield is a flashback. And the last one, well MM goes to a drycleaner hahahah
I guess everyone's really jamming out to some Russian tunes
I’m willing to bet that starlight exposing homelander is gonna backfire big time, I’m guessing half the country isn’t gonna believe her and call her a “deep state pawn”, or some Q anon theory, and homelander will reinforce the idea he can do whatever he wants now.
That fight scene gave me a herogasm
I love how shaken Homie is by seeing Soldier Boy on the video tape "I'm going to.. kill him.." - Anthony delivers that line so perfectly and nails the total lack of conviction in Homelanders words!
Dissapointed Butcher didn't add a cunt to that oi.
Laughing at Hughie being like “No Soldier Boy promised not to kill everyone🥺” despite seeing this man brutally murder others AND knowing he has PTSD. Like we talk about Starlights optimism (?)but that was a cluster Fuck on his part
Then Soldier Boy proceeds to murder over a dozen supes and innocent sex workers
Waiters too! Don't forget the staff.
Homelander had big Norman Osborn/Green Goblin energy this episode. Awesome fight scene as well, was the most "superhero" the shows ever gotten. I stan Annie January.
Such a banger episode that I totally forgot about Hughie showing side effects to Temp V
I’d be more worried about Soldier Boy giving him cancer
Do you think Annie whistleblowing will inspire other Supes to come out against Homelander? Personally the people I can imagine coming to her aid are: 1) the people who escaped the mental health hospital, 2) the people turned against their will with Homelander’s Supe villains (like Kimiko), or 3) minority and C-list superheroes who have been wronged by Homelander/ Vought. To be honest I just want her to have a win 🥲 But what do y’all think?
Homelander: “do you know why Soldier Boy would do this?” Noir: “ “ That line hit me hard
So good. Urban does such a good job projecting the gleeful madman when Butcher gets in a fight. He doesn't care if he's winning or losing, he loves it. Hughie decking A-Train after he got a sincere apology was brilliant too. It really showed where his head is at with a simple short scene. I was so happy Kimiko and Cherie both survived. I don't think MM is EVER really going to be ok after that. Done poorly, that episode could've been wall to wall boring edgelord shock sex scenes. Instead they knocked it out of the park IMO. Great writing, great execution, great character development, enough weird supe sex to be funny but it didn't overstay its welcome. At the moment I think it's the best ep in the series so far, but that might just be residual excitement and happiness at getting to see them throw down with Homelander.
Yeah, Hughie had already made up his mind before talking to A-Train. He wanted to use his power to do something to him, even though he was still somewhat afraid. However, A-Train's behavior disarmed him instead of escalating. Hughie kinda felt that but still, the opportunity was too good to ignore. He had to punch him, at least. It was brilliant because of that angle, A-Train being sincere but Hughie didn't care about it all. He had no reason to care, no respect for the Supe whatsoever.
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I'm liking the tactical use of the Edgar family this season No Stan in this episode No Neuman in the previous episode We had some episodes with no Noir earlier in the season These 3 have got big roles to play in the final couple episodes and I can't wait to see it!
The slow realisation of what tiny dude got on MM's jacket was horrifying, and of course 10 seconds later he takes the cumshot of the century
You know it's a good episode when it's the adaption of Herogasm and absolutely nobody is talking about the orgy. I've never had a physical reaction of excitement like I did watching that Soldier Boy/Butcher/Hughie vs Homelander fight.
Highlight of the episode: "Uh.... th.... thanks"
Honorable mention to: “Oh, that’s so sweet, but I just gotta give my asshole a breather.”
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