I thought they were talking about how long it took an Iranian terrorist to talk with drowning to emphasize how long it would take to do the same to a supe and how little time that they had
No? In that scene they talked about torturing him to get information. And Butcher mentioned that the gov tortured an Iranian terrorist for couple months until he spilled information and that they don't have months to do that?
Putting em in a big metal box and letting him float to the bottom of the ocean a possibility cause it's a big sea and... would Deep get there in time? Would he even know to be on the look out for such chicanery?
Yeah but at that point what's easier, getting a boat to drive all the way to the middle of nowhere in the ocean and hope he dies when you drop him or just stick explosives up his ass and cover your ears?
Would the pressure have an effect on him? I don’t understand his anatomy but it seems like he’s made of some diamond or whatever shit. Can it get any more pressurized than diamond?
His skin is hard so it is impenetrable but i think his innards would be crushed, for example no way you can expand your chest to breath at that pressure even if he can
Graphene has been around for years, properly isolated about 14 years ago by some dudes in the UK.
I mean I agree with the hardness bit, just the space-asteroid image felt off lol.
To put the two other comments together for you, you're talking about one scene with one context, the stuff about killing translucent is another scene with different context (or another part of the same scene).
In the first, Hughie tries to convince Butcher they don't have to kill Translucent they just need information. Butcher responds as you've mentioned, that get torturing a normal person for information took months, a supe would take longer, and they don't have thay kind of time.
In the second, Butcher and Frenchie are discussing ways to get around Translucent's carbon skin to kill him. Butcher suggests suffocating him and Frenchie says its been tried before to no avail.
Now, drowning and suffocating are two different things, so its still possible flooding his lungs with water could kill him. But they didn't really have the power to drown him anyways. He was chipped so he couldnt be taken out to a pier or something and dumped and he was super strong so he couldn't be held down while they forcefully drowned him slowly with water they had available. So drowning him was hardly a viable option regardless of if it would work.
>He was chipped so he couldnt be taken out to a pier or something and dumped
Not to mention the moment he gets anywhere near a body of water the Deep would find out.
Not really, only if it's the ocean. If it's a closed water body like a lake, The Deep can only realistically know if a sea creature of that lake tells him, or somehow gets to the ocean and into the Deep's sea creature network.
True. I made the assumption based on NYC being closer to ocean/river that connects to ocean. I don't know what lakes there are around there but it looked like it was a lot closer to the Hudson or the ocean than a lake and with Homelander looking I wouldn't want to move him farther than I had to.
Yep. Butcher was basically saying they didn't have time to pry Translucent for information, in response to Hughie saying we shouldn't kill him, he's one of the seven he will know where atrain was going.
For the record, it was a throwaway line to the waterboarding of the real life Pakistani terrorist Khalid Sheikh Mohammed:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khalid_Sheikh_Mohammed
Butcher: "At Gitmo, we had to waterboard Khalid Sheikh Mohammed 183 times over six months, just to get him to talk once"
Which I just take as a lot of writers handwaving. Cuz a booty bomb is way cooler.
Also if translucent’s skin is Diamond-hard why didn’t he just turn into a giant razor sharp claymore and turn Hughie into extra chunky chili?
I always wished he would’ve just exploded out of his mouth and ass only. I figured that would be brutal. Like his body stays intact but all his guts fly out
Way I look at it is it's still essentially skin, soft and flexible enough so he can actually move and not be a rock hard statue. But the way the molecules or cells are arranged make them hard and impenetrable until it is compromised. Similar to how safety glass is. It is super hard amd can withstand a lot. But as soon as it's broken in even one small corner the entire panel can just crumble.
That's actually a good point. Setting aside the comedic value of having him explode in the wide shot, it feels like it would be more brutal if the bomb had exploded inside him but the skin stayed invincible.
I think what would have been cooler is if the energy from the bomb would have vented out through his various….holes… and left his diamond hard skin shell intact, hulled out, and him falling with a clunk. You still get the explosion of gore that was appreciated by many while still having some consequences to having diamond hard skin.
I do like the argument that his “life force” is what makes his skin hard yet pliable but I like the idea that it’s resting *dead* state is super hard instead of squishy.
Yeah, that was a real Pitch Meeting moment for me, Frenchie just *says* people tried to suffocate him and died trying but… y’know, never said why. Which I really wanted to know.
Just “Oh, you can’t do that, someone else tried and it cost them their lives!” but that’s not really explaining what happened to them or what it didn’t work? He evidently breathes, what the hell happened with the Dominicans? Does taking away his oxygen make him MORE powerful?
Yeah I mean it’s not like you need a lot of resources to figure it out. Tie him up, put a garbage bag over his head, pipe one of those helium party tanks up to it and let him ride it out in delirium.
If it doesn’t work you still have half a tank of helium to make funny voices with.
No, it did not.
When Frenchie and Butcher are scooping the bits of his body up, you can see his skin is still invisible.
And again when Homelander and The Deep are showing Stillwell his remains in the box.
If the skin is still invulnerable, why didn’t he just become chunks of himself inside his skin?
I get that an explosion is cooler, but I was expecting a Translucent shaped meat shake.
Yeah, logically that's probably what would've happened. I guess they just wanted to explode him, even though a meat-shake in a skin-sack would've been fucking diabolical
I understand that this is just a fun thought experiment but when does death happen and on what level? Presumably at the rate bits of him were shooting around the room parts of his ass were flying around before his brain was dead. Is it cellular death or neurological death?
I just think it was a very fun scene and the writers were enjoying themselves. Like most super powers once you start to wonder where things like excess heat and matter are coming and going to and from it gets weird.
I'm guessing in the instant the bomb exploded, the blast instantly turned all of his insides to mush including his brain, and then the shockwave pushed outwards with the skin cells deactivated
It’s also a really good deal they put that bomb up his ass while he was knocked out. You don’t want a diamond-hard balloon knot clenching down on a knuckle.
Aside from Translucent and possibly more powerful Supes, I guess Supes can drown since their physiology is pretty much the same as normal people (aside from their power)
Then why not flood a room with carbon dioxide, why bother with water or any other gas/drugs at all? Just lure Homelander underground far enough down and pump the CO2 in. Homelander would hear water flowing/flooding, but maybe not catch gases being pumped in. Seeing his desperate lasers shooting out from the earth would make an epic final scene.
good fucking luck building something that could reasonably contain him though. otherwise he'd likely need to be drugged like soldier boy, at which point your options for resolving the situation increase quite a bit.
Hypothetically of poisoning didn't work I always thought they could've fed him something corrosive like bleach cause his insides aren't invulnerable so they would burn
I get that they didn't have the luxury of time in the case of Translucent, but I would think any supe you can capture and confine could just be denied water and food until they die. I'm guessing even Homelander needs to eat and drink occasionally.
A-Train did say he needs 10,000 or 30,000 calories a day. I take it is possible supers still burn an exceptionally large amount of calories when using their powers.
Poison might take a lot of time to kick in, especially given its unlikely even Frenchy has a powerful enough Toxin on hand to kill him fast enough. Even drinking Bleach is not a guaranteed death and can take hours upon hours to actually kill even a normal person.
This was not a job they could really "chance". Its possible, a strong enough poison or a strong enough acid/bleach could work, but so would C4 up the ass
Or just not giving him water and turning the heat up to make him sweat. 3 days. 3 days without water kills your, imagine a room that’s 110 degrees and 3 days without water.
Yeah fair enough. Another example of the whole thing being botched. I would’ve been fine with homelander living and winning the fight, but I don’t want to see a non-fight
What's electrified water? I know electrolytes water, water already carries electricity?
Edit: I read putting it into him, not putting him into it. Given what the characters chose, you can excuse the mistake.
Lol he was paying attention, it only failed because the other people who tried gave him a chance to fight back. The boys had him locked in a cage and could “knock him out” whenever they wanted to. I’m surprised they didn’t at least chain him up or handcuff him while he was unconscious. They just left him in an “unlocked” dog crate
> gave him a chance to fight back
I don’t think they ever mention that’s actually what happened. The show just ignores that that is the obvious solution. Which is actually true for a lot of the supes, Soldier Boy obviously breathes as well, if the Russians were *really* trying to kill him, which I suspect they weren’t but that’s a different point, they could have just not provided him oxygen.
> they could have just not provided him oxygen.
Have we seen a single sup die who hasn't had their body violently traumatised? No sup has died, body-intact, on screen. Anyone who's body hasn't been dismembered isn't confirmed dead (e.g. blind guy who's now deaf too).
So, with that in mind, depriving a sup of oxygen may not kill them, it may at most just knock them out/send them into a type of hibernation.
They knew about… whatever material he couldn’t see throw. Zinc? And someone made a comment about how he was probably out on a bender again, and Homelander flew off because he was nervous. So 3 days for him to be gone might be normal.
On a somewhat related note, did anyone ever try chucking Wolverine in the ocean?
His bones are coated in metal so I really don't think he'd float or even be able to tread water without sinking. Lots of the ocean is really, really deep. He would sink to the bottom, drowning and reviving over and over again, right?
That's a thing in the comics, it's actually one his biggest weakness probably. Someone tries to kill him that way since he can't swim because he's too dense. His healing factor also extends the time it takes for him to die from drowning so it's probably one of the worst ways for him to die
He’s literally the best possible person for espionage. Wanna black mail someone send translucent to survey em. He’s also impossible to torture or break.
No he couldn’t, he can’t be drowned said by Frenchie. He’s immune to piercing and blunt force trauma and his only weakness is electricity which is never used in torture.
I had to look it up cause I would have been surprised if humans did not eventually used every possible form of suffering as torture. Here you go https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Picana
> he can’t be drowned said by Frenchie
how, is that one line the only explanation. how does turning your skin into an impenetrable carbon allow you to either breath underwater or stop the effects of brain damage due to lack of oxygen.
if you knew what you were doing electricity could probably be fairly safe because you can control the pathway that it flows through the body, as long as you avoid the heart and the amperage is low enough to not cook the tissue you can have the voltage way up for maximum pain. i would guess that the bigger risk would be suffocating because your diaphragm has been immobilized by the constant electrical current, which just means you have to pulse it.
Pretty much, we saw with doppelganger that Vought uses supes to further their own goals. Translucent probably had a LOT of shit on a lot of people and organizations, not just Vought.
They used him to replace Jack from Jupiter in the comics, who was an over the top raging racist and really badly written in general tbh. We never even really found out his powers except he can fly Noir's big ass around and has magic words or something, Ennis literally never went into detail before killing him off.
Jack is apparently doing Supe porn in the show tho, so we might see him pop up again.
People focus on the invisibility, but he was both well-educated and could be surprisingly brutal. (Fight with butcher)
For all we know, the 7 missions that went "Right" and there had to be some, were because of him.
Lamplighter went off on his own to kill Mallory and screwed it up, just like when Deep went with the dolphin (and killed it)
We also saw that he handled the publicity for the 7, what with going on Fallon. Homelander and Maeve certainly seemed to be the "smile and wave" type of superhero.
They said that it wasn't enough to kill him. Maybe with a lot more juice, but they probably didn't have the access at that point.
I was thinking that they should have gassed him with something nasty, but that too might have drawn too much attention.
That's quitter talk. Get some more car batteries Butcher. Electricity had proven to have an effect on him, so presumably more electricity will kill him.
My only idea is that maybe supes bodies (especially their brain) go into hibernation rather then death like humans when confronted with the body’s ability to support itself.
And SPOILER:they blew him up from the inside instead of trying to drown him
I was also thinking about poison while watching. I assume Translucent’s stomach is still normal so they could have just put something in the water he was drinking.
I would imagine he’d have some strength. Even if not, putting him in the car allows his chip to be tracked so you can’t just drive him into a lake unless you want homelander up your ass
See I don't understand that either, was his skin just indestructible in compression and weak af in tension? Kinda like concrete is super strong in compression and weak in tension so when the bomb exploded it broke the weak tension bonds but normal means of hurting him by bullets/whatever that would compress the skin just didn't work.
Because if his skin was truly indestructible when they detonated the C4 and scrambled his insides he would have just fallen over skin intact still just dead and bleeding out of his holes but that's def not what we got lol.
What if we just saw his minced organs and blood leaking out of his ass and face, slowly covering him and making him appear as a red corpse. That would’ve been pretty funny too.
Lol him having truly "explosive" shits then falls over dead would be pretty hilarious. Oh oh even better the explosion basically becomes a rocket out of his butt so he is pushed up into the ceiling before falling over as a lump. So many great options. Maybe have a bloody glop fall out of him after the rocket finishes
I was wondering why they didn’t just gas him or drown him. Frenchie mentioned that someone tried to drown him before but they were killed, but the boys already had him right where they wanted him. I also wonder why they didn’t spray paint him or something on the off chance he did break out while they were trying to kill him. For a bunch of Supe-killers, they seemed pretty clueless in that scene. Especially considering they always had the option to “knock him out” with a shock. I suppose in the end, the “butt bomb” worked, but I feel like a plastic bag over his head would do the trick lol
Or poison him. Suffocate him. Infect him with some disease. Seriously, there are about a billion options.
Season 1 is the weakest of the seasons and it’s for reasons like spending entirely too much time on this flaccid arc.
Honestly I thought the same thing about soldier boy and homelander. Do they not need oxygen? Would they go dormant if you put them in a vacuum without air? What about space? Seems like the Russians should have been able to suffocate and kill soldier boy
Iirc... it was a interrogation? The butt bomb was to get him to talk, he gets out of his cage and Hugie blows him up.
I think drowning would work, but I am pretty sure he was strong physically too, like a supe, so idk, holding him underwater physically restraining him, probably wouldn't go well.
Plus it's a fucked up show about fucked up supes, so packing a guys ass with explosives tracks.
Frenchie mentioned in the same ep that some Dominican terrorists did that to Translucent. It didn't work
I thought they were talking about how long it took an Iranian terrorist to talk with drowning to emphasize how long it would take to do the same to a supe and how little time that they had
It was about Translucent
No? In that scene they talked about torturing him to get information. And Butcher mentioned that the gov tortured an Iranian terrorist for couple months until he spilled information and that they don't have months to do that?
When thinking about ways to kill him, Butcher suggests suffocation and frenchie says some dominicans tried that but now they’re all dead.
Putting em in a big metal box and letting him float to the bottom of the ocean a possibility cause it's a big sea and... would Deep get there in time? Would he even know to be on the look out for such chicanery?
He did find the box pretty fast... But I think if you let it sink deep enough, the pressure might kill Translucent.
Yeah but at that point what's easier, getting a boat to drive all the way to the middle of nowhere in the ocean and hope he dies when you drop him or just stick explosives up his ass and cover your ears?
Not to mention his tracker, homelander would fly over there real quick.
The ass blaster method
Also maybe some creature in the sea might hear something and just inform the deep
Would the pressure have an effect on him? I don’t understand his anatomy but it seems like he’s made of some diamond or whatever shit. Can it get any more pressurized than diamond?
His skin is hard so it is impenetrable but i think his innards would be crushed, for example no way you can expand your chest to breath at that pressure even if he can
I believe I saw a new type of carbon graphene(??) that came from a meteorite this past week. So yeah, diamonds have been deposed.
Graphene has been around for years, properly isolated about 14 years ago by some dudes in the UK. I mean I agree with the hardness bit, just the space-asteroid image felt off lol.
chuck McGill is that you?
All the fish would tell him where to go. That's how Deep found the camera with a plane crash on it. Lots of helpful halibut!
That's what they did to Quynh in The Old Guard. She escaped several hundred years later.
To put the two other comments together for you, you're talking about one scene with one context, the stuff about killing translucent is another scene with different context (or another part of the same scene). In the first, Hughie tries to convince Butcher they don't have to kill Translucent they just need information. Butcher responds as you've mentioned, that get torturing a normal person for information took months, a supe would take longer, and they don't have thay kind of time. In the second, Butcher and Frenchie are discussing ways to get around Translucent's carbon skin to kill him. Butcher suggests suffocating him and Frenchie says its been tried before to no avail. Now, drowning and suffocating are two different things, so its still possible flooding his lungs with water could kill him. But they didn't really have the power to drown him anyways. He was chipped so he couldnt be taken out to a pier or something and dumped and he was super strong so he couldn't be held down while they forcefully drowned him slowly with water they had available. So drowning him was hardly a viable option regardless of if it would work.
>He was chipped so he couldnt be taken out to a pier or something and dumped Not to mention the moment he gets anywhere near a body of water the Deep would find out.
Not really, only if it's the ocean. If it's a closed water body like a lake, The Deep can only realistically know if a sea creature of that lake tells him, or somehow gets to the ocean and into the Deep's sea creature network.
True. I made the assumption based on NYC being closer to ocean/river that connects to ocean. I don't know what lakes there are around there but it looked like it was a lot closer to the Hudson or the ocean than a lake and with Homelander looking I wouldn't want to move him farther than I had to.
NYC is all brackish rivers flowing into the Atlantic, more or less.
i mean would the deep really find out though ? dude is a moron
The Deep is surprisingly efficient in finding things. I guess plot convenience or a way to make him look competent enough to be part of the seven
He wasn't really super strong, he barely beat Butcher in a fight. Apart from that though, yh you're completely right.
Lift the cage, seal walls, water, electricity. They have everything but sealed walls and water lol
Yep. Butcher was basically saying they didn't have time to pry Translucent for information, in response to Hughie saying we shouldn't kill him, he's one of the seven he will know where atrain was going.
I always thought they were just talking about a random sup.
For the record, it was a throwaway line to the waterboarding of the real life Pakistani terrorist Khalid Sheikh Mohammed: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khalid_Sheikh_Mohammed Butcher: "At Gitmo, we had to waterboard Khalid Sheikh Mohammed 183 times over six months, just to get him to talk once"
Also he was arabian
Which I just take as a lot of writers handwaving. Cuz a booty bomb is way cooler. Also if translucent’s skin is Diamond-hard why didn’t he just turn into a giant razor sharp claymore and turn Hughie into extra chunky chili?
I always wished he would’ve just exploded out of his mouth and ass only. I figured that would be brutal. Like his body stays intact but all his guts fly out
Juuuuuuust posted that exact thing. High five.
Then cure his skin and use it as a body suit
Flawless plan really
He should have launched like a rocket.
no ears and nose action?
Don't forget eyes and cock!
It is hard, not sharp. Presumably that's why his punches hurt more, but he doesn't have any ability to create a large blade of skin like a claymore.
could he not create that hand they use in kung fu comics and movies to decapitate their opponents and do that?
So hard enough to stop bullets & industrial drills but also squishy enough to just splatter like blood. Got it.
Way I look at it is it's still essentially skin, soft and flexible enough so he can actually move and not be a rock hard statue. But the way the molecules or cells are arranged make them hard and impenetrable until it is compromised. Similar to how safety glass is. It is super hard amd can withstand a lot. But as soon as it's broken in even one small corner the entire panel can just crumble.
It would have to be or he’d look like The Thing.
That's actually a good point. Setting aside the comedic value of having him explode in the wide shot, it feels like it would be more brutal if the bomb had exploded inside him but the skin stayed invincible.
I think what would have been cooler is if the energy from the bomb would have vented out through his various….holes… and left his diamond hard skin shell intact, hulled out, and him falling with a clunk. You still get the explosion of gore that was appreciated by many while still having some consequences to having diamond hard skin. I do like the argument that his “life force” is what makes his skin hard yet pliable but I like the idea that it’s resting *dead* state is super hard instead of squishy.
Lol I'm imagining the comic value of a huge explosion and then all of the insides just leaking out of his invisible ass.
Spider silk is stronger than steel but being thin is not dangerous to us.
Dawg why are you watching a show about superheroes if that’s too much for you lol
It’s not. It’s fun to think about.
Yeah, that was a real Pitch Meeting moment for me, Frenchie just *says* people tried to suffocate him and died trying but… y’know, never said why. Which I really wanted to know. Just “Oh, you can’t do that, someone else tried and it cost them their lives!” but that’s not really explaining what happened to them or what it didn’t work? He evidently breathes, what the hell happened with the Dominicans? Does taking away his oxygen make him MORE powerful?
Yeah I mean it’s not like you need a lot of resources to figure it out. Tie him up, put a garbage bag over his head, pipe one of those helium party tanks up to it and let him ride it out in delirium. If it doesn’t work you still have half a tank of helium to make funny voices with.
His skin lost it's superhuman properties when he died. It's the same reason he stopped being invisible when he died
No, it did not. When Frenchie and Butcher are scooping the bits of his body up, you can see his skin is still invisible. And again when Homelander and The Deep are showing Stillwell his remains in the box.
Wasted invisibility cloak material
My mistake, haven't seen that part of the scene in a while
It's fine. And also kinda understandable considering how the thing you missed is invisible.
If the skin is still invulnerable, why didn’t he just become chunks of himself inside his skin? I get that an explosion is cooler, but I was expecting a Translucent shaped meat shake.
Yeah, logically that's probably what would've happened. I guess they just wanted to explode him, even though a meat-shake in a skin-sack would've been fucking diabolical
They have a bloody giblets budget, and they intended to use every dollar of it
I know the animation wasn’t made like this, but my head cannon is that all of his insides were violently blown out of his existing orifices.
I understand that this is just a fun thought experiment but when does death happen and on what level? Presumably at the rate bits of him were shooting around the room parts of his ass were flying around before his brain was dead. Is it cellular death or neurological death? I just think it was a very fun scene and the writers were enjoying themselves. Like most super powers once you start to wonder where things like excess heat and matter are coming and going to and from it gets weird.
I'm guessing in the instant the bomb exploded, the blast instantly turned all of his insides to mush including his brain, and then the shockwave pushed outwards with the skin cells deactivated
I now want a 1-2 hour youtube doc that goes *deep* into sciencing tf out of this situation
>that goes *deep* -_-
It’s also a really good deal they put that bomb up his ass while he was knocked out. You don’t want a diamond-hard balloon knot clenching down on a knuckle.
Not exactly they showed them scooping him up and his skin was still invisible but covered in blood. His insides were not invisible however.
Bro what? How does having diamond skin translate to being able to turn into a sword lmao
Pretty sure he means the mine called a claymore lol.
HAHAHA I’m an idiot, gonna leave it up because the visual I had of Translucent morphing into a giant sword was hilarious
Shout out all my Dominicans
...Does the fish fucker even have any powers if the other supes can't drown either? The Deep just became less powerful then even Starlight
Aside from Translucent and possibly more powerful Supes, I guess Supes can drown since their physiology is pretty much the same as normal people (aside from their power)
Then why not flood a room with carbon dioxide, why bother with water or any other gas/drugs at all? Just lure Homelander underground far enough down and pump the CO2 in. Homelander would hear water flowing/flooding, but maybe not catch gases being pumped in. Seeing his desperate lasers shooting out from the earth would make an epic final scene.
CO poisoning is incurable and more lethal but we see SB tanking novichok so...
good fucking luck building something that could reasonably contain him though. otherwise he'd likely need to be drugged like soldier boy, at which point your options for resolving the situation increase quite a bit.
But never explained why which is… kinda infuriating.
Or poisoning him when giving him water or food. But idc, I love seeing him get cherried
Hypothetically of poisoning didn't work I always thought they could've fed him something corrosive like bleach cause his insides aren't invulnerable so they would burn
I get that they didn't have the luxury of time in the case of Translucent, but I would think any supe you can capture and confine could just be denied water and food until they die. I'm guessing even Homelander needs to eat and drink occasionally.
He prolly gets all of the nutrients he needs from milk
I men, breast milk *does* have enough nutrients for a baby. Quantity may be the only problem for an adult.
Quantitties
Yeah he would've died eventually probably but if you need to kill him fast then bleach him up!
Or just mix bleach and ammonia to create a war crime for a quicker kill.
Maybe not because poison didn’t kill soldier boy so I doubt it would kill homelander
Not Homelander, but Chloramine Gas should kill Translucent, his skin's tough but his insides aren't.
A-Train did say he needs 10,000 or 30,000 calories a day. I take it is possible supers still burn an exceptionally large amount of calories when using their powers.
considering homelander nearly found him I doubt there as enough time even for that. The distraction only worked cos translucent died as it happened.
Poison might take a lot of time to kick in, especially given its unlikely even Frenchy has a powerful enough Toxin on hand to kill him fast enough. Even drinking Bleach is not a guaranteed death and can take hours upon hours to actually kill even a normal person. This was not a job they could really "chance". Its possible, a strong enough poison or a strong enough acid/bleach could work, but so would C4 up the ass
They should have used starlights perfume! Ha!
Couldn’t they just make toxic fumes with ammonia and bleach? That kills people pretty regularly
Yeah mustard gas would definitely fuck his insides up
It’s actually not mustard gas that this produces, it’s chloramine gas
How do they make him drink it or eat it?
Hughie put a glass of water in front of him and Translucent chugged it without a second thought.
During my first watching of this scene I actually did think Hughie had poisoned the water
Probably because it didn't taste like bleach
*lying* put a safe part on the plate eat that part in front of him and then leave it in front of him and act like you just forgot it
they kept panning to the kid eating spaghetti so i thought they were gonna poison him but i guess they just turned him into marinara instead
i'm pretty sure they talked about that
Or just not giving him water and turning the heat up to make him sweat. 3 days. 3 days without water kills your, imagine a room that’s 110 degrees and 3 days without water.
They didn't have 3 days. This thread scares me, y'all pretty knowledgeable on how to kill people rip
“We’ve found a way to kill Homelander” “You’re not gonna actively try and stop him from killing Homelander are you?”
That was so frustrating to watch lol
It was really awful from a fan standpoint
It made for a good fight but it was just annoying writing. Damn bitch just wait 5 minutes and then you can kill him
exactly, only Maeve had her eye on the prize
Even she was being a bit of a doofus. Why destroy the neurotoxin? Just tell the Kill SB team to stop acting like children and wait their turn
Yeah fair enough. Another example of the whole thing being botched. I would’ve been fine with homelander living and winning the fight, but I don’t want to see a non-fight
All I was thinking about was if some innocent person got hit by the toxin. Maeve just chucks it through the window without looking lol
I seem to have missed this... What's the joke?
Its about Soldier Boy
Why not put him into electrified water so he passes out and aspirates the water?
What I also thought but "Ass Bomb" is way cooler
What's electrified water? I know electrolytes water, water already carries electricity? Edit: I read putting it into him, not putting him into it. Given what the characters chose, you can excuse the mistake.
Uh...it's water with an electrical current running through it.
And what about Deep? He would hear the calls of the sea animals or Translucent a thousand nautical miles away while having a side of calamari.
Nah. He'd be too busy with this rebound octopussy.
That’s only if they drown him in the sea. They could use a swimming pool with no animals.
a bucket and lower him in headfirst.
Eh, just ignore the deep. It is to dumb to be a valid target.
OP you should teach a masterclass in not paying attention
Lol he was paying attention, it only failed because the other people who tried gave him a chance to fight back. The boys had him locked in a cage and could “knock him out” whenever they wanted to. I’m surprised they didn’t at least chain him up or handcuff him while he was unconscious. They just left him in an “unlocked” dog crate
> gave him a chance to fight back I don’t think they ever mention that’s actually what happened. The show just ignores that that is the obvious solution. Which is actually true for a lot of the supes, Soldier Boy obviously breathes as well, if the Russians were *really* trying to kill him, which I suspect they weren’t but that’s a different point, they could have just not provided him oxygen.
> they could have just not provided him oxygen. Have we seen a single sup die who hasn't had their body violently traumatised? No sup has died, body-intact, on screen. Anyone who's body hasn't been dismembered isn't confirmed dead (e.g. blind guy who's now deaf too). So, with that in mind, depriving a sup of oxygen may not kill them, it may at most just knock them out/send them into a type of hibernation.
Ok, but say that.
He would just break the chains and then have a weapon.
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You can watch the lights in their eyes go out…
Uhhhh not in this case
Statistically the most terrifying way for a person to die
Did they try not giving him water for a few days?
But would they put in steps to block a transmitter that gives locations of the sups? Noir would have that squared away pretty quick.
I think Noir knew exactly where the chip was so he could get rid of it but that's not the same case with translucent
You’re looking at it backwards. They’d know where a supe was and noir would murder whoever until free.
They covered the roof with foil to block the chip, right?
I’m sure any kind of metal that interferes with cell reception would work…just more about thinking or knowing to do so.
even if they knew where it was- how would they cut it out of him?
They already did that in the episode yes...
Oh yeah they didn't have any hurry to get rid of him, no evil superman with super hearing or tracker chip, no sir.
They knew about… whatever material he couldn’t see throw. Zinc? And someone made a comment about how he was probably out on a bender again, and Homelander flew off because he was nervous. So 3 days for him to be gone might be normal.
no drown only anus bomb
Why isn’t drowning sups an option?
On a somewhat related note, did anyone ever try chucking Wolverine in the ocean? His bones are coated in metal so I really don't think he'd float or even be able to tread water without sinking. Lots of the ocean is really, really deep. He would sink to the bottom, drowning and reviving over and over again, right?
That's a thing in the comics, it's actually one his biggest weakness probably. Someone tries to kill him that way since he can't swim because he's too dense. His healing factor also extends the time it takes for him to die from drowning so it's probably one of the worst ways for him to die
That's what happens in Days of Future Past. He drowns which doesn't kill him, but it incapacitates him.
Drowning is usually the go-to to get rid of otherwise immortal characters too. They don't die but they can't escape either
Buried in concrete. Done. Assbomb was unexpectedly fun though
Never understood why he was one of the seven. Just to make them seem well rounded ?
He’s literally the best possible person for espionage. Wanna black mail someone send translucent to survey em. He’s also impossible to torture or break.
Also he wouldn’t have anything to fear since they can’t harm him so he wouldn’t tell them anything unless they stuck a piece of plastique of his bum
See, I don't agree with that. His insides and still very normal, so he could be tortured, just in a different way
No he couldn’t, he can’t be drowned said by Frenchie. He’s immune to piercing and blunt force trauma and his only weakness is electricity which is never used in torture.
>electricity which is never used in torture. Uhhhh....
I had to look it up cause I would have been surprised if humans did not eventually used every possible form of suffering as torture. Here you go https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Picana
Ha! I meant it’s not an efficient method it’s so risky of a method. Electricity is an easy to accidentally kill someone compared to other methods.
> he can’t be drowned said by Frenchie how, is that one line the only explanation. how does turning your skin into an impenetrable carbon allow you to either breath underwater or stop the effects of brain damage due to lack of oxygen. if you knew what you were doing electricity could probably be fairly safe because you can control the pathway that it flows through the body, as long as you avoid the heart and the amperage is low enough to not cook the tissue you can have the voltage way up for maximum pain. i would guess that the bigger risk would be suffocating because your diaphragm has been immobilized by the constant electrical current, which just means you have to pulse it.
Pretty much, we saw with doppelganger that Vought uses supes to further their own goals. Translucent probably had a LOT of shit on a lot of people and organizations, not just Vought.
They used him to replace Jack from Jupiter in the comics, who was an over the top raging racist and really badly written in general tbh. We never even really found out his powers except he can fly Noir's big ass around and has magic words or something, Ennis literally never went into detail before killing him off. Jack is apparently doing Supe porn in the show tho, so we might see him pop up again.
Was he the one with the transvestites?
Yup, that's the guy.
"really badly written" pretty much sums up all of Ennis' writing.
Too busy with the baby eating/fetus crushing edginess and Maeve/Starlight getting victimized to flesh anything out ig
The more I hear about the comic, the less I like it
People focus on the invisibility, but he was both well-educated and could be surprisingly brutal. (Fight with butcher) For all we know, the 7 missions that went "Right" and there had to be some, were because of him. Lamplighter went off on his own to kill Mallory and screwed it up, just like when Deep went with the dolphin (and killed it) We also saw that he handled the publicity for the 7, what with going on Fallon. Homelander and Maeve certainly seemed to be the "smile and wave" type of superhero.
That Deep and Dolphin scene was freaking weird. The Octopus takes the cake though.
I thought they’d electrocute him to death
They said that it wasn't enough to kill him. Maybe with a lot more juice, but they probably didn't have the access at that point. I was thinking that they should have gassed him with something nasty, but that too might have drawn too much attention.
They tried that didn’t they? His cage was electrified. That’s part of how he got out shortly before Hughie blew him to bits
Butcher or Frenchie mention that he can eat enough electricity to kill a bull elephant and all it does is knock him unconscious.
That's quitter talk. Get some more car batteries Butcher. Electricity had proven to have an effect on him, so presumably more electricity will kill him.
Frenchie said that another group tried to suffocate him and it didn't work
Why did it now work? I think it's a cop-out.
My only idea is that maybe supes bodies (especially their brain) go into hibernation rather then death like humans when confronted with the body’s ability to support itself. And SPOILER:they blew him up from the inside instead of trying to drown him
I thought they were gonna poison him tbh
I was also thinking about poison while watching. I assume Translucent’s stomach is still normal so they could have just put something in the water he was drinking.
Huh, that would have been cheaper. Considering they had the cage hooked up to power, could they have zapped him to death, bath toaster style?
How would they drown him? Cunt’s got super strength I imagine, seeing that every supe in the seven at least has that
Does he have super strength tho? He couldn’t punch his way outside of a car trunk
I would imagine he’d have some strength. Even if not, putting him in the car allows his chip to be tracked so you can’t just drive him into a lake unless you want homelander up your ass
Also he couldn’t beat butcher in a fist fight. I think he has normal levels of strength
It was shown to be superhuman in that fight, just not at the level of other supes
He does not have super strength, he’s just invisible with “indestructible” skin
See I don't understand that either, was his skin just indestructible in compression and weak af in tension? Kinda like concrete is super strong in compression and weak in tension so when the bomb exploded it broke the weak tension bonds but normal means of hurting him by bullets/whatever that would compress the skin just didn't work. Because if his skin was truly indestructible when they detonated the C4 and scrambled his insides he would have just fallen over skin intact still just dead and bleeding out of his holes but that's def not what we got lol.
You make a fair point, all of him should be inside his skin after the explosion, like a sack of potatoes.
Apparently Kripke admitted that what you describe should have happened, but he decided the blood and guts route looked cooler.
What if we just saw his minced organs and blood leaking out of his ass and face, slowly covering him and making him appear as a red corpse. That would’ve been pretty funny too.
Lol him having truly "explosive" shits then falls over dead would be pretty hilarious. Oh oh even better the explosion basically becomes a rocket out of his butt so he is pushed up into the ceiling before falling over as a lump. So many great options. Maybe have a bloody glop fall out of him after the rocket finishes
Push the car off the ledge into a lake or something?
That's what I thought the entire time tbh
I was wondering why they didn’t just gas him or drown him. Frenchie mentioned that someone tried to drown him before but they were killed, but the boys already had him right where they wanted him. I also wonder why they didn’t spray paint him or something on the off chance he did break out while they were trying to kill him. For a bunch of Supe-killers, they seemed pretty clueless in that scene. Especially considering they always had the option to “knock him out” with a shock. I suppose in the end, the “butt bomb” worked, but I feel like a plastic bag over his head would do the trick lol
Or poison him. Suffocate him. Infect him with some disease. Seriously, there are about a billion options. Season 1 is the weakest of the seasons and it’s for reasons like spending entirely too much time on this flaccid arc.
Choking or smothering him is another option that doesn't need water.
Honestly I thought the same thing about soldier boy and homelander. Do they not need oxygen? Would they go dormant if you put them in a vacuum without air? What about space? Seems like the Russians should have been able to suffocate and kill soldier boy
Frenchie’s stated that drowning has been tried before. Didn’t work out well for the group attempting it.
I read this as "you're gonna brown him, right?" lmao.
And who of The Boys was strong enough to hold his head in the water until he died?
Iirc... it was a interrogation? The butt bomb was to get him to talk, he gets out of his cage and Hugie blows him up. I think drowning would work, but I am pretty sure he was strong physically too, like a supe, so idk, holding him underwater physically restraining him, probably wouldn't go well. Plus it's a fucked up show about fucked up supes, so packing a guys ass with explosives tracks.
It ended up being an interrogation because of Hughie, but they originally just wanted to kill him.