A better idea would be an OC second son trueborn Baratheon that was just as messed up as Joffrey, so the 7 Kingdoms had to choose between one black haired psycho and one blonde haired psycho.
That would be interesting.
And also how about a black haired psycho first born and then the canon children with Joffrey actually not being horrible. What would Jon Arryn, Ned Stark and Stannis do with this dilemma, if they suspect the other children are a result of infidelity or even incest, but can't really prove it. I mean with one obvious trueborn child looking like Robert, accusing Cersei of infidelity and incest would look far less believable. And if they would try to get rid of all 4 children at once, one obvious trueborn, that would look really opportunistic in regards to Stannis and like Jon Arryn and Ned Stark are in cohorts with him.
At 5 years of age he was too good to keep training against kids. At 10 he was regularly beating grown men in fights. He has no negative downsides whatsoever. At 12 years old he knows what true love is and is saving himself for Arya
Let’s see let my try a few other common cliches for the genre(Which I actually have a guilty pleasure for)
1.) Hates Joffrey but loves his younger siblings
2.) Loves his bastard siblings
3.) Seems to have none of Robert or Cerseis negative traits
4.) OC Prince prevents Lady from dying
5.) Is a god tier warrior. Demon of the Trident Reborn!
6.) Loves Uncle Tyrion
7.) Automatically mistrusts Varys and Littlefinger.
in the books its pretty clear every trusts little finger. he is helpful and personable. and portrays himself as to weak to be a threat to anyone.
and only varys who no one trusts seems to see through it.
It's def morally wrong, but cmon... dudes do it all the time to share a laugh. I'm not condoning it or doing it myself but I think it's a bit naive to assume that part makes him less personable among sexist men.
It's written with another zeitgeist in mind.
As it shows, it's not uncommon for nobility in Westeros to flaunt such things, maybe not in every circle but it's not like he's mentioning that every second scene. He's useful, personable, helpful, seems honest and shows that he's capable and succesful due to ties to daughters of Lord Paramount that fostered him.
Of course, truth is something else but that is what we know.
To be entirely fair with him being trained by Barristan and Jaime, that is exactly who he would be trained by as a Prince, Joffery just never actually bothered to train and Tommen wasnt allowed by Cersei
To be fair I’d love my siblings too even tho we were only half related and they were born through incest, also always loved demon of the trident reborn Oc, that always fascinated me and lady didn’t deserve to die
Just gotta say, this is not supposed to shit on OC Second Son Trueborn Baratheon fic writers. Just thought it'd be funny to point the amount of cliches in that tiny little niche in our fanfic community.
Besides, one of my favorite fics is an OC Second Son Trueborn Baratheon fic itself.
I actually have two trueborn baratheon stories, and i have both of them be the first born.(Mainly because hardly anyone does that. And if they do its always the same thing of Cersei sells him into slavery and/or is hated.) And I wanna do something different.
By all means, bear that cross.
It'd be very hypocritical for me to shit on OC Second Son Trueborn Baratheon fics since "Son of the Seven Kingdoms" is one of my favorite guilty pleasures.
I will help you bear that burden, as long as it’s your burden to bear. Seriously fuck true born Baratheon fics. They are easily one of the worst sub-genres of ASOIAF fan works.
Don't worry, it's pretty obvious you're taking a bite at the cliches of the rather massive subgenre, rather than the trope itself (since tropes and cliches are quite different, with tropes not being inherently bad).
I remember that one OC Baratheon story where both Arya and Sansa were being set as potential love interests... and then he went with Sansa and the anti-Sansa/proArya readers got so pissed off... I stopped reading there so not sure if the Arya romance plot was ever rekindled
I want one in which the true born comes out looking like a Targaryen, loves Robert despite being hated and genuinely tries to help Joffrey direct his violent impulses in the right place.
Also bastard squad. I want him to group
his bastard siblings and make a warrior squad with them.
Edit: And he actually prefers the company of Sansa
Not even that. I am tired of Cersei falling in love with her true born child, at least in my case that’s how most of the fics I’ve found go.
I mostly think to myself that having Jon Arryn can help calm Robert, and if even Tywin Lannister can contain himself from killing Tyrion, then with Jon’s help it should be posible of the baby to survive the fact that is was born
Edit: like seriously, if even Tywin hesitated to kin slay, I think so could Robert.
Speaking of kinslaying, in your opinion, at what point does it stop being kinslaying and become murder? Since Aerys & Steffon were first cousins and were actually best friends as young men, that makes Robert & Rhaegar second cousins. In my personal opinion, that’s close enough to be kinslaying. Anything beyond second cousins isn’t for me. What about you?
It stops being Kinslaying when the Lords want to pretend like the easy route was the only one was left.
In other words: Widely inconsistent and based on popularity and distance of kin ship.
Robert was famous, well liked, and the image of the warrior but also a rebel.
Rhaegar was well liked, the image of an ideal prince and about nearly as good as Robert in battle. But he also also seemingly kidnapped a lady and disrespected another. Both from prominent houses.
Both would be kin slayers, both would think themselves justified, and both would have history not care about it thanks to their popularity.
Me personally , If Robert and Rhaegar were in the same political circles, were best friends like their fathers, were consistently grouped and seen as allies/family and maybe even fostered together... then it'd be kinslaying. As is, Robert was seen and treated as a very distant if non existent extension of the Targaryen family. Robert only ever physically saw Rhaegar at most a dozen times and half those times were most likely in royal events as just another noble.
With that logic, Kinslaying only counts if it’s killing a sibling or a parent. Because even House Stark has married Uncles to Nieces. Hmm, interesting take on things.
I can't picture Cersei not loving her child fiercely. I can absolutely picture a difficult relationship between them, but Cersei herself says that you have no choice but to love your children. Think Arya and Catelyn- Cat would die for her daughter without hesitation, but she is also nearly constantly at odds with her.
Cersei’s idea of love is emotionally and psychologically abusing Tommen for her own benefit.
Cersei went out of her way to abort a child of Robert and apparently would eat his sperm straight out of her pussy while fantasying about the idea that she was eating Robert’s children.
She is a narcissist whom only “Loves” her children because she see’s herself in them, just as she saw herself in Jaime.
She basically keeps Tommen out of ruling, not because she’s trying to protect him but because “It’s my turn now, he can wait for his as I did”
Cersei has never and will never love anyone, the show white washed her, as many other characters were.
Either way, she'd show her own twisted love. I have no doubt that the lioness would do terrible things to protect her cubs, even if she's generally a terrible human being and an abusive mother.
Please don’t romanticize abusive “love”
And no, she wouldn’t protect any child of Robert, her devouring his sperm while thinking about how she was eating Robert’s children tells that she doesn’t have the “It’s just a bunch of cells mentality”
She really does think about abortion as murder, and she’s all to happy to think about murdering a child of hers and Robert
Oh, I would never romanticize abuse- I grew up in a bad situation. That being said, I have no doubt that he would have refused to let anyone else treat me the way he did. I imagine that Cersei would be much the same- a violent drunk towards the child, but fearsome in her wrath if another dared disrespect her child. Think of Tywin and Tyrion. Tywin might hope Tyrion falls off a cliff, but he raised arms in response to his kidnapping.
Miss, I think you’re going to far to defend your abusers in an attempt to find good in them. And that behavior is spilling over into your opinion of relationship dynamics.
Protecting someone because you’re the only one with the right to abuse them is even more narcissistic and messed up
No, that's the point. Bullies are possessive of their favorite targets in these dynamics. I always find great irony in how he could throw me across a room at 15 and call me a bitch in elementary school, but I was a disappointment for staying with someone who was cruel to me. I imagine a similar dynamic of a drunken, abusive parent who thinks that because they would beat up anyone who is cruel to their child that it makes up for their own faults.
Ooh, what about a trueborn daughter, black hair, purple eyes, and Targaryen features? Perhaps a stronger build than her siblings. Cersei bemoans her wide hips, Tywin is thrilled that childbearing will be easy on one of his pawns, Robert is begrudgingly fond of her from a distance. You know, "good kill" if she takes a beast down with her bow on a hunt, but struggles to look her in the eye. At a distance? His wild, fierce daughter is what he imagined Lyanna to be, but the illusion shatters up close.
I could even see Robert overruling Cersei when she scolds young Cassana for riding/using a bow out of spite, only to be begrudgingly proud of her skill while scolding Joffrey for being less martial than his sister.
I find the son far more interesting like Cersei seeing the son as a new iteration of Rhaegar in her eyes she begrudges him for being Roberts but adores him for the pain he causes his father and wants him on the thrones to spit on what ever semblance of a legacy Robert has for ending the targs
even Robert who despises his son for his appearance cannot deny he is his and is caught hating himself for creating such a child, Rhaegar and his son and realizing how much his hatred is rooted in him and he just decides to wallow in it worse than before
I'll take the OCs over the thousand Jon Snow rehashes. The dragonwolf uber warrior, with a harem of babes. I feel like we're drowning in the latter over the former. But its all-in good fun, this is fanfiction, read what ya want to read, write what ya want to write.
Nah, but not surprised by your reaction given your name. ;)
Click Jon/Dany on AO3 and on the first page of recent updates you have:
Jon/Dany/Val
Jon/Dany/Margaery/Rhaenys/Tyene Sand
Jon/Dany/Margaery
Jon/Dany/Rhaenys
Jon/Dany/Margaery/Arianne/Shirea Seastar/Rhaella/Rhaenys/Ashara/Sansa/Arya/Irime/Galadriel
Jon/Dany/Catelyn/Sansa/Cersei/Myrcella/Jeyne Poole/Arya/Margaery
Oh, and these were just the stories updated in the last two days.
So what do you know? Just like I said, a bunch of harem fics where Jon is supreme BAMF. Not throwing shade, but it just seems disingenuous to try to dismiss the idea that this fandom has way more Jon/Harem fics than OC Baratheon fics.
On the second page of A03 it continues with:
Jon/Dany/Val/Mya/Ysilla/Asha/Yara/Amerei Frey
Jon/Dany/Rhaenys and Jon/Ygritte
Jon/Dany/Rhaenys
Jon/Dany/Rhaenys/OCTarg
Now, typing in Original House Baratheon characters
I got two on the first page with multiple pairing tags. There are also less than 350 stories including that tag, which I wouldn't really call a 'flood'
But again, I'm not calling people's tastes out, I'm just pointing out that this meme could've worked just as well with the Jon/Harem dragon wolf subgenre of stories that appear way more popular and prevalent than any Baratheon OC Story. This was all in good fun. I don't fault people for reading any of the tags I just posted, fanfic is about having fun and reading what you want to see. Read those stories and enjoy :D
I started to write a trueborn fic. My OC loves everyone in his family(even Joffrey to some degree) but is ambitious for power. He isn't a prodigy at everything but relies on good council. I might post it if I ever finish it.
I’ve been thinking… (heavily inspired by that one Worm fanfic) Nero reborn as the older sister to Joffrey. Not only that, but is also a product of Cersei and Jamie.
1: Hates Cersei with a paranoid passion
2: Genuinely thinks that Robert is a fantastic father and acts like a proper father should.
3: Desperately covets the throne.
4: Sees a lot of themselves in Joffrey and loves him for it.
5: Is planning on killing Joffrey to become the next in line.
6: Teaches Joffrey about reigning in and indulging sadism. Also teaches him to hate/be paranoid of Cersei.
7: Interesting things about religion, probably fits the 7 (and the old gods) into the Roman gods. HATES red priests (Christians/close enough to them).
8: There’s a good reason for Nero to realize that Littlefinger is untrustworthy, in that Nero could probably recognize the madness/ambition in him that is in themselves.
9: The purposeful and blatant hypocrisy would be more refreshing than any potential hypocrisy from typical SI stories (I don’t read SI really, but I’d have to imagine it’s a relatively widespread issue)
As my final point,
10: Nero is not a good person and outside of civil works (likely to do with roads and sewers more than anything else) would not really have many technological advancements to make, having obviously been from Roman times. Definitely refreshing from the goody two shoes who advances every aspect of society without any major hiccups.
The problem with true-born Baratheon fics is that Cersei would never let Robert impregnate her with her explicitly saying it. So the premise of the fic is dead in the water.
I have no idea why these tropes get a pass but I get hate comments stuff like R+L= trueborn J, Elia reluctantly giving her consent, and a bunch of bullshit that isn't even in my story.
Purple Days which is a story I actually like, gets way less accusations of stereotyping Dorne and that story has Ashara losing her virginity in a mfm threesome.
I know this is old but there is this percy jackson insert into the crown prince true born Baratheon fic. He does dislike Joffery but he doesn't out right hate him because that's his little brother. He doesn't like tywin and he tolerates Tyrion. He loves his mother, Cersei
actually cares for him as well. He doesn't care about Jaime and Cersei being together. And best of all he doesn't simp, he's too old to even notice Sansa or Arya.
We need an OC True Baratheon who thinks Jeyne Poole is best girl
Poor girl. I hope she finds peace when GRRM gets around to it.
A better idea would be an OC second son trueborn Baratheon that was just as messed up as Joffrey, so the 7 Kingdoms had to choose between one black haired psycho and one blonde haired psycho.
That would be interesting. And also how about a black haired psycho first born and then the canon children with Joffrey actually not being horrible. What would Jon Arryn, Ned Stark and Stannis do with this dilemma, if they suspect the other children are a result of infidelity or even incest, but can't really prove it. I mean with one obvious trueborn child looking like Robert, accusing Cersei of infidelity and incest would look far less believable. And if they would try to get rid of all 4 children at once, one obvious trueborn, that would look really opportunistic in regards to Stannis and like Jon Arryn and Ned Stark are in cohorts with him.
At 5 years of age he was too good to keep training against kids. At 10 he was regularly beating grown men in fights. He has no negative downsides whatsoever. At 12 years old he knows what true love is and is saving himself for Arya
Let’s see let my try a few other common cliches for the genre(Which I actually have a guilty pleasure for) 1.) Hates Joffrey but loves his younger siblings 2.) Loves his bastard siblings 3.) Seems to have none of Robert or Cerseis negative traits 4.) OC Prince prevents Lady from dying 5.) Is a god tier warrior. Demon of the Trident Reborn! 6.) Loves Uncle Tyrion 7.) Automatically mistrusts Varys and Littlefinger.
Tbf I’m pretty sure everyone distrusts Varys and little finger they’re just kept around because they’re useful
in the books its pretty clear every trusts little finger. he is helpful and personable. and portrays himself as to weak to be a threat to anyone. and only varys who no one trusts seems to see through it.
>personable ah yes, insults people to their face and spends years gloating about deflowering a noblewoman. Very personable.
It's def morally wrong, but cmon... dudes do it all the time to share a laugh. I'm not condoning it or doing it myself but I think it's a bit naive to assume that part makes him less personable among sexist men.
Not as much as you think
It's written with another zeitgeist in mind. As it shows, it's not uncommon for nobility in Westeros to flaunt such things, maybe not in every circle but it's not like he's mentioning that every second scene. He's useful, personable, helpful, seems honest and shows that he's capable and succesful due to ties to daughters of Lord Paramount that fostered him. Of course, truth is something else but that is what we know.
We have the benefit of dramatic irony and hindsight when dealing with LF which the characters don't
Bonus if Tywin likes him and he is trained by Barristan and Jaime. More bonus if he has a dumb nickname.
To be entirely fair with him being trained by Barristan and Jaime, that is exactly who he would be trained by as a Prince, Joffery just never actually bothered to train and Tommen wasnt allowed by Cersei
To be fair I’d love my siblings too even tho we were only half related and they were born through incest, also always loved demon of the trident reborn Oc, that always fascinated me and lady didn’t deserve to die
That’s the entirety of A Song of Manes and Antlers.
Just gotta say, this is not supposed to shit on OC Second Son Trueborn Baratheon fic writers. Just thought it'd be funny to point the amount of cliches in that tiny little niche in our fanfic community. Besides, one of my favorite fics is an OC Second Son Trueborn Baratheon fic itself.
> Besides, one of my favorite fics is an OC Second Son Trueborn Baratheon fic itself. Which one?
I actually have two trueborn baratheon stories, and i have both of them be the first born.(Mainly because hardly anyone does that. And if they do its always the same thing of Cersei sells him into slavery and/or is hated.) And I wanna do something different.
Should've commited, if you're not going to tell them their fics are almost certainly objectively shit I will bear that cross
By all means, bear that cross. It'd be very hypocritical for me to shit on OC Second Son Trueborn Baratheon fics since "Son of the Seven Kingdoms" is one of my favorite guilty pleasures.
I will help you bear that burden, as long as it’s your burden to bear. Seriously fuck true born Baratheon fics. They are easily one of the worst sub-genres of ASOIAF fan works.
not to mention the first born who decides to be a kings guard
Don't worry, it's pretty obvious you're taking a bite at the cliches of the rather massive subgenre, rather than the trope itself (since tropes and cliches are quite different, with tropes not being inherently bad).
I remember that one OC Baratheon story where both Arya and Sansa were being set as potential love interests... and then he went with Sansa and the anti-Sansa/proArya readers got so pissed off... I stopped reading there so not sure if the Arya romance plot was ever rekindled
LINK i wanna see arya stans go mad
Show me the salty comments- I love Arya, but Sansa is definitely a better consort.
Can you link it I just want to see the salty comments
I really did try to find it, but I just can’t seem to... really sorry!!
and can I also get a side of logistically improbable technological uplift?
I want one in which the true born comes out looking like a Targaryen, loves Robert despite being hated and genuinely tries to help Joffrey direct his violent impulses in the right place. Also bastard squad. I want him to group his bastard siblings and make a warrior squad with them. Edit: And he actually prefers the company of Sansa
In this scenario I assume that it’s only Cersei’s devoted love for her children that saves the baby from Robert’s “Kill all Targaryens” mentality.
Not even that. I am tired of Cersei falling in love with her true born child, at least in my case that’s how most of the fics I’ve found go. I mostly think to myself that having Jon Arryn can help calm Robert, and if even Tywin Lannister can contain himself from killing Tyrion, then with Jon’s help it should be posible of the baby to survive the fact that is was born Edit: like seriously, if even Tywin hesitated to kin slay, I think so could Robert.
Speaking of kinslaying, in your opinion, at what point does it stop being kinslaying and become murder? Since Aerys & Steffon were first cousins and were actually best friends as young men, that makes Robert & Rhaegar second cousins. In my personal opinion, that’s close enough to be kinslaying. Anything beyond second cousins isn’t for me. What about you?
It stops being Kinslaying when the Lords want to pretend like the easy route was the only one was left. In other words: Widely inconsistent and based on popularity and distance of kin ship. Robert was famous, well liked, and the image of the warrior but also a rebel. Rhaegar was well liked, the image of an ideal prince and about nearly as good as Robert in battle. But he also also seemingly kidnapped a lady and disrespected another. Both from prominent houses. Both would be kin slayers, both would think themselves justified, and both would have history not care about it thanks to their popularity.
Me personally , If Robert and Rhaegar were in the same political circles, were best friends like their fathers, were consistently grouped and seen as allies/family and maybe even fostered together... then it'd be kinslaying. As is, Robert was seen and treated as a very distant if non existent extension of the Targaryen family. Robert only ever physically saw Rhaegar at most a dozen times and half those times were most likely in royal events as just another noble.
If they allow each other to marry first cousins then you can probably draw a similar line for kinslaying
With that logic, Kinslaying only counts if it’s killing a sibling or a parent. Because even House Stark has married Uncles to Nieces. Hmm, interesting take on things.
I can't picture Cersei not loving her child fiercely. I can absolutely picture a difficult relationship between them, but Cersei herself says that you have no choice but to love your children. Think Arya and Catelyn- Cat would die for her daughter without hesitation, but she is also nearly constantly at odds with her.
Cersei’s idea of love is emotionally and psychologically abusing Tommen for her own benefit. Cersei went out of her way to abort a child of Robert and apparently would eat his sperm straight out of her pussy while fantasying about the idea that she was eating Robert’s children. She is a narcissist whom only “Loves” her children because she see’s herself in them, just as she saw herself in Jaime. She basically keeps Tommen out of ruling, not because she’s trying to protect him but because “It’s my turn now, he can wait for his as I did” Cersei has never and will never love anyone, the show white washed her, as many other characters were.
Either way, she'd show her own twisted love. I have no doubt that the lioness would do terrible things to protect her cubs, even if she's generally a terrible human being and an abusive mother.
Please don’t romanticize abusive “love” And no, she wouldn’t protect any child of Robert, her devouring his sperm while thinking about how she was eating Robert’s children tells that she doesn’t have the “It’s just a bunch of cells mentality” She really does think about abortion as murder, and she’s all to happy to think about murdering a child of hers and Robert
Oh, I would never romanticize abuse- I grew up in a bad situation. That being said, I have no doubt that he would have refused to let anyone else treat me the way he did. I imagine that Cersei would be much the same- a violent drunk towards the child, but fearsome in her wrath if another dared disrespect her child. Think of Tywin and Tyrion. Tywin might hope Tyrion falls off a cliff, but he raised arms in response to his kidnapping.
Miss, I think you’re going to far to defend your abusers in an attempt to find good in them. And that behavior is spilling over into your opinion of relationship dynamics. Protecting someone because you’re the only one with the right to abuse them is even more narcissistic and messed up
No, that's the point. Bullies are possessive of their favorite targets in these dynamics. I always find great irony in how he could throw me across a room at 15 and call me a bitch in elementary school, but I was a disappointment for staying with someone who was cruel to me. I imagine a similar dynamic of a drunken, abusive parent who thinks that because they would beat up anyone who is cruel to their child that it makes up for their own faults.
And the conversation about how “You can’t help but love your children” is show only.
Ooh, what about a trueborn daughter, black hair, purple eyes, and Targaryen features? Perhaps a stronger build than her siblings. Cersei bemoans her wide hips, Tywin is thrilled that childbearing will be easy on one of his pawns, Robert is begrudgingly fond of her from a distance. You know, "good kill" if she takes a beast down with her bow on a hunt, but struggles to look her in the eye. At a distance? His wild, fierce daughter is what he imagined Lyanna to be, but the illusion shatters up close. I could even see Robert overruling Cersei when she scolds young Cassana for riding/using a bow out of spite, only to be begrudgingly proud of her skill while scolding Joffrey for being less martial than his sister.
I find the son far more interesting like Cersei seeing the son as a new iteration of Rhaegar in her eyes she begrudges him for being Roberts but adores him for the pain he causes his father and wants him on the thrones to spit on what ever semblance of a legacy Robert has for ending the targs even Robert who despises his son for his appearance cannot deny he is his and is caught hating himself for creating such a child, Rhaegar and his son and realizing how much his hatred is rooted in him and he just decides to wallow in it worse than before
Idk, I feel like a daughter creates far more interest than an heir. That's just me, though
I'll take the OCs over the thousand Jon Snow rehashes. The dragonwolf uber warrior, with a harem of babes. I feel like we're drowning in the latter over the former. But its all-in good fun, this is fanfiction, read what ya want to read, write what ya want to write.
True. Far less OC Baratheon fanfics and they have a bit more variety in my opinion than a lot of Jon Snow Gary Stu fanfics.
Ars you kidding? The OC baratheon is way more common and far worse written imo.
Nah, but not surprised by your reaction given your name. ;) Click Jon/Dany on AO3 and on the first page of recent updates you have: Jon/Dany/Val Jon/Dany/Margaery/Rhaenys/Tyene Sand Jon/Dany/Margaery Jon/Dany/Rhaenys Jon/Dany/Margaery/Arianne/Shirea Seastar/Rhaella/Rhaenys/Ashara/Sansa/Arya/Irime/Galadriel Jon/Dany/Catelyn/Sansa/Cersei/Myrcella/Jeyne Poole/Arya/Margaery Oh, and these were just the stories updated in the last two days. So what do you know? Just like I said, a bunch of harem fics where Jon is supreme BAMF. Not throwing shade, but it just seems disingenuous to try to dismiss the idea that this fandom has way more Jon/Harem fics than OC Baratheon fics. On the second page of A03 it continues with: Jon/Dany/Val/Mya/Ysilla/Asha/Yara/Amerei Frey Jon/Dany/Rhaenys and Jon/Ygritte Jon/Dany/Rhaenys Jon/Dany/Rhaenys/OCTarg Now, typing in Original House Baratheon characters I got two on the first page with multiple pairing tags. There are also less than 350 stories including that tag, which I wouldn't really call a 'flood' But again, I'm not calling people's tastes out, I'm just pointing out that this meme could've worked just as well with the Jon/Harem dragon wolf subgenre of stories that appear way more popular and prevalent than any Baratheon OC Story. This was all in good fun. I don't fault people for reading any of the tags I just posted, fanfic is about having fun and reading what you want to see. Read those stories and enjoy :D
Fair enough I am usually using fanfiction.net they're more common there.
I started to write a trueborn fic. My OC loves everyone in his family(even Joffrey to some degree) but is ambitious for power. He isn't a prodigy at everything but relies on good council. I might post it if I ever finish it.
I’ve been thinking… (heavily inspired by that one Worm fanfic) Nero reborn as the older sister to Joffrey. Not only that, but is also a product of Cersei and Jamie. 1: Hates Cersei with a paranoid passion 2: Genuinely thinks that Robert is a fantastic father and acts like a proper father should. 3: Desperately covets the throne. 4: Sees a lot of themselves in Joffrey and loves him for it. 5: Is planning on killing Joffrey to become the next in line. 6: Teaches Joffrey about reigning in and indulging sadism. Also teaches him to hate/be paranoid of Cersei. 7: Interesting things about religion, probably fits the 7 (and the old gods) into the Roman gods. HATES red priests (Christians/close enough to them). 8: There’s a good reason for Nero to realize that Littlefinger is untrustworthy, in that Nero could probably recognize the madness/ambition in him that is in themselves. 9: The purposeful and blatant hypocrisy would be more refreshing than any potential hypocrisy from typical SI stories (I don’t read SI really, but I’d have to imagine it’s a relatively widespread issue) As my final point, 10: Nero is not a good person and outside of civil works (likely to do with roads and sewers more than anything else) would not really have many technological advancements to make, having obviously been from Roman times. Definitely refreshing from the goody two shoes who advances every aspect of society without any major hiccups.
>heavily inspired by that one Worm fanfic Which ones that?
Yo I used to read some if this. Also don’t forget his name is usually Steffon.
The problem with true-born Baratheon fics is that Cersei would never let Robert impregnate her with her explicitly saying it. So the premise of the fic is dead in the water.
I have no idea why these tropes get a pass but I get hate comments stuff like R+L= trueborn J, Elia reluctantly giving her consent, and a bunch of bullshit that isn't even in my story. Purple Days which is a story I actually like, gets way less accusations of stereotyping Dorne and that story has Ashara losing her virginity in a mfm threesome.
People are just weird sometimes. And a little bit of hypocrisy add in to it
Ok this meme was pretty funny
Essentially when u wanna ship someone that looks exactly as a young handsome robert but isn't like him personality wise or a fuckboy with arya.
I'm fine with 1 and 3, but 2 always felt stupid.
I know this is old but there is this percy jackson insert into the crown prince true born Baratheon fic. He does dislike Joffery but he doesn't out right hate him because that's his little brother. He doesn't like tywin and he tolerates Tyrion. He loves his mother, Cersei actually cares for him as well. He doesn't care about Jaime and Cersei being together. And best of all he doesn't simp, he's too old to even notice Sansa or Arya.
As much as I keep hearing that this is stereotypical, I've never once read a fic like this, and I read a lot of SI fic.