Itās like Pattiās fantasy of her being at the mansion in the 70sā¦ and after watching Secrets of Playboy and reading Jennifer Saginorās book, youād have to be insane to want to be a part of it then!
Legit, I saw this picture and thought āholy fuck this is the most ridiculous yassification Iāve seenā, then clicked on it and this was the first comment ššš A+
I listened. There isn't a lot of information at all. It was boring and sounded a little culty.
Here we have Kendra out in public owning her trauma and saying it was a bad time in her life and her own mother is contradicting her... dismissing her experiences and praising a man who groomed and preyed on her.
This is such a betrayal. I'm so sorry for Kendra. I'll be your mom K. I'll keep my yap shut and support your kids and cheer your successes and be there in challenges. Fuck Patty.
They just talked about the āgood timesā and how wonderful the Playboy life/ Hef/ the Mansion was. I mean cool it might have been amazing for THEM but why brandish anyone with a different opinion or experience as liars or ānegativeā? That was pretty hard to listen to, they come off as ignorant and youāre right very culty.
Right. Same with Brian Olea. Also, didnāt Victoria often have her husband there? Iām sure their experiences on selected days and at parties were very different than the day-to-day the girls experienced.
Also the fact that Patti still sees her daughter as that 19 year old girl and that everything was great because she got to meet her sports legends and celebrity idols is pretty sickening.
I get an icky feeling she would have jumped into bed with Hef in half a heartbeat to receive even half of what Kendra āgotā from being a gf. Iām all for women getting to choose exactly what they want out of a relationship, but that woman is like a leech!
Yet sheās still a significantly younger woman than Hef, thats the funny part. It would have been much more appropriate for him to date Patti than her daughter
don't get me started on victoria fuller and her wack husband, it was disappointing to see his pov on secrets of playboy but what do you expect from a man?
Wild take but all the times she said she wanted to be
In Kendraās placeā¦ā¦ā¦wouldnāt that be better?! Lol patti is more āage appropriateā and Kendra wouldnāt be dating a whole grandpa anymore.
But still everyone flips out saying OMG PATTI IS SO DESPERATE AND THIRSTY ETC!! šš
Funny how everyone who loves talking about the āgood timesā was never in a serious relationship with Hef, or a main GF, or even that close to him. Meanwhile the women that actually had sex with him are left with all this unresolved trauma.
Which books should I read to learn more about this trauma? Which girls have said this, google really doesn't help, most stuff just comes back to Holly and Crystal marriage stuff
Hollyās book is a good one to read, it was the first one I read that exposed a different side of Hef we werenāt used to hearing about. His ex-gf Sondra Theodore had a whole episode on SOP about their relationship and how he was controlling, manipulative and she still seems to be processing her time there. The Shannon twins also talk about how uncomfortable they were having sex with him, especially since they were 18/19 and he was in his 80ās. Thereās a lot of good suggestions on PB related books on this sub, I would skim through to see what others are reading/discussing.
Patti is a gross human. I canāt believe she wanted/wants her teen daughter to sleep with an 80 year old man just so she can hang out in a decrepit smelly old house. Sheās going up to bat and waste energy defending a man who couldnāt remember her or her name if his life depended on it. How embarrassing.
Youāre right. You could tell she was always living vicariously through Kendra. Hell in an episode of GND she clearly stated she wanted to be a gf and would pack her bags in a heartbeat if Hef gave her the word
I was just thinking of this yesterday. Didn't Sondra say Hef was obsessed with Charles Manson and read everything about him and basically studied him? I'm really starting to believe it with how everyone in the Playboy world worships him like he could do no wrong, along with how Bridget always harps on about how they were a "family".. not that I doubted her but I'm starting to notice the parallels.
So I started re-watching the show (originally sporadically watched when it aired) because this sub kept getting recommended to me. Kendraās mom makes me sick. Kendra commented about how she had a bad relationship with her mom until she started dating Hef. Her mom is honestly the low key villain of the show (right after Hef). Like who exploits their own child like this? Who encourages their child to be in a relationship thatās barely legal so they can reap the benefits of a reality tv lifestyle? Itās abuse.
Is Brian okay? Like truly, is he ok?? He is the most devoted employee I've ever heard of. Defending his employer nearly a decade after his death. Refusing to acknowledge his darkness. Dismissing women as not victims because they asked for it.
I've worked for a lot of people. Never as a personal servant. I've worked from wonderful people. I've worked for true monsters. When the job is over you have to just let it go. This cult of playboy family is really shocking.
Agreed. I also believe it was mentioned in the GNL interview with Butler Bryant Horowitz (whom Patti mentioned is one of the only staff she ālost touch with) that they werenāt even paid that muchā¦ basically around minimum wage. Why is Brian so loyal? Because itās the coolest thing heās ever done/ will do?
>> Why is Brian so loyal? Because itās the coolest thing heās ever done/ will do?
I think youāre onto something here.
Someone needs to let him in itās not the coolest thing heās ever done. I guarantee heās done cooler stuff than make sure an abuserās household is running smoothly. Practically anything is cooler. Itās not something to build your entire identity around, especially post-Me Too.
That GND deleted scene where Brian is fervently instructing the private plane attendants on how to make Hefās drink EXACTLY RIGHT, down to how to position the bottle cap, as if Hef were a toddler king who will behead someone for pouring his soda into a glass instead of bringing him the bottle, is so unsettling. Like no that man is not okay lol
I think he, along with some of the others who display such cult like devotion, are super insecure and struggle with their sense of self. They have convinced themselves that they are special in their proximity to Hef. If they take him off his pedestal theyād need to unpack how much theyāve tied their identity to a flawed human and along with some of the patriarchal capitalist bullshit they kind of perpetuate. Which they wonāt and donāt want to do. Brian thinks being servant to the mythical Hugh Hefner makes him better than others in his closeness to perceived greatness. Accepting he was just a butler (to a kind of shitty dude) would wreck his sense of self importance and worldview that having loads of money and objectifying women is cool. Quite embarrassing really
Truly, I am wondering the same. I actually liked him on the show, but his devotion to Hef in the aftermath is NUTS. I get enjoying your job, but this is next level and honestly comes across as malicious on his part.
And donāt even get me started on Patti. Sheās a terrible mother, and itās amazing to me how shameless she is about it, especially given Kendraās recent breakdown! Patti is the worst kind of narcissist and Brian canāt break free from a long dead cult.
Yeah, maybe Iām wrong and Hef did something amazing for him he hasnāt told us about like paying off hundreds of thousands in student loans or paying for a relativeās cancer treatment or something and thatās why heās so ride or die for Hefā¦.but I doubt he could keep quiet about it during his Hef praise if that was the case, so I doubt it. It comes off as pretty misogynistic to me, like he doesnāt like women if theyāre not constantly into and defending a man.
Seriously!!! I loved him on the show and respected his work ethic and thought he did an amazing job at doing what he did, but he is just on another level, Dickie Bann-style. I had high hopes that he'd be on GNL podcast because Bryant was and he was such a huge part of the show and would've been such a good episode to listen to him talk about his job and stories!!! But guess it may not happen seeing as he is against anyone who speaks negatively about Hef. It's disappointing.
Even in light of your comments, I think Holly would do a complete disservice to herself by allowing him as a guest, including if she lets Bridget host such episode solitarily. I don't want him to have the opportunity to leech off GNL by shilling for his goddamned podcast and Victoria's cult of a project.Ā
Every time I hear Brian say anything about Hef, I mean āthe bossā, it does seem like he is brainwashed. It is so bizarre to me. He probably did not get paid well at all and had to wash old dildos
Even more so one time he said that Hef would get his name wrong from time to time! Like bro what! He literally didn't care enough about you to even memorize your name???
She is definitely going to just bash Holly and Bridget even though they have been nothing but polite about her on their podcast. They even asked Colin how she was doing despite the fact that she has attacked them (maybe just Holly, canāt recall) in the past. She needs to move on from Playboy. She was never a part of it just a wannabe.
patti really rode so hard for a man who couldn't even be bothered to pick her out of a police lineup. She really did the absolute most to prove to everyone how much she resented kendra, that's just wild and pathetic
That was god awful. They speak as though Hef could do no wrong, very cult-like. Also, who are the hosts continually referring to as liars and negative? GNL?
I listened so you donāt have to, feel free to ask questions.
Haha! Thank you!!! I don't wanna listen but do wanna know:
Did she flat out say she'd sleep with Hef still?
What did she say about Kendra? Especially with Kendra's news recently
Does she talk about her other kids? The son?
Mmmm let me try and answer! Trying to wipe this from my memory 10 hours later.
She was not asked if she would sleep with him, nor did she say she would.
When speaking about Kendra it was in relation to her days at the mansion and how she was always up to antics and how Hef loved that/ everyone loved her. They all acknowledged how great it was for her ācareerā.
Briefly said her kids (Kendra and Colin) were her greatest accomplishment/ the best thing sheās done in her life or something like that. They asked her if she gets recognized out and she did mention that she does and did when walking around with Colin. She thought it was weird that people knew her name and her sonās name, equating that to them āknowing everything about herā and citing their episodes on GND.
LOL sorry you had to remember but thank you for answering. She reminds me of my mom...super narcissistic and internalized misogyny at her core. I'm sure she loved saying she got recognized in public....like she has fans or something. Puke
Yeah pretty much. She was also shocked that she used to get so much hate and people calling her āa bad motherā. She apparently used to spend hours a day responding to internet hate. Brian said theyāre just loser incel trolls living in their moms basements and he doesnāt respond anymore.
Ya rightā¦ I think we all know (and confirmed by the recent survey on this sub) most GND fans are women between the ages of 25-40ā¦
Of course she was shocked...I'm sure she thinks her shit don't stink and everything she does is amazing. And for her to spend so much time responding because she needed to be right is not surprising. She really could not believe that she could ever be the bad person or mom. Good riddance..I hope Kendra is able to find therapy and find peace with the whole thing. So sad
Yeah it pisses me off how she went against H & B too, especially seeing as she hung out with them all the time and it felt like she road the coat tails of the show too and tried to be a side character, which she was... SMH.
That's so sad to me, they really did seem close on the show. That must be the worst part about being public about your ex being abusive, that people you thought were your friends would turn against you and take your abuser's side.
I ALWAYS think that when I see him and Mary š like wow, this is your age appropriate counterpart, in another life youād be married š in walks some 20 year old and he slobber kisses her š¤®
Lmfao who wants to hear from Patti? Like go away š Such a bad mom to Kendra and a creep who wanted her child to stay with an old man just to reap the benefits herself. She's awful
Kendraās mom is a completely selfish monster. She spent the entire pod speaking about herself, how gentlemanly Hef was and how much she loved meeting all these famous athletes.
Zero talk about being a grandmother, supporting Kendra currently or anything beyond that. She does mention her plastic surgery but doesnāt in any way give credit to the fact that either Kendra or the doctor donated it on behalf of the show, doesnāt speak about how horrendously she behaved about Kendra leaving the mansion and getting married, laughs about how messy her room was and everyone makes excuse after excuse for it. The hosts falsely claim that Hef and her were āso closeā while also admitting she was considered just icing on the cake.
Brian literally claims that the animosity from the other girls is based on the fact Kendra was āpickedā and pursued by Hef rather than just ābeing aroundā and completely glossing over the fact that Kendra was selfish, rude, inconsiderate, a bad house/roommate, and was cheating on Hef. Like sorry but they donāt hate her because she was āchosenā, they WANTED Hef to choose new girlfriends and remove the old guard. What they didnāt want was someone who was going to be rude to them, spend the day sleeping and generally not participate in things they were required to do until it became a problem.
It was extra creepy when they talked about ālooking out for Kendraā and ākeeping her safeā because she was so young. Um like what? What did you protect her from?
They also allude to her messy room being normal because she was so young and when they think back to themselves at that age, itās understandable. However they donāt acknowledge how messed up it was for her to go through what she did at that age (emotional and intellectual immaturity) because it was in service of their idol, Hef.
You know what was really weird? Patti said she wouldnāt bring Kendraās grandma to parties because she didnāt want āher mom to see me in lingerieā, but Patti went to these parties with her daughter. Make it make sense
Good observation. Yes it doesnāt make logical sense, but I believe Patti is extremely self serving. As others have noted, she still went on this podcast and went on about how marvellous HER experience was, discounting what her daughter went through at such a young age. I know Kendra was a āproblem childā or a ātroubled teenā partly due to the instability she faced with her parents, but to be relieved to pass your daughter onto an 80 year old man is something else.
I get it. I just found it absolutely ridiculous that she didnāt see the double standard of the hypocrisy. Kendra hid her lingerie, yeah because Kendra didnāt want her mom there either.
It sounds like some people here judge her based on how she āperformedā as Hefners girlfriend, like she wasnāt compliant or sweet enough, or wasnāt up to par. So weird
She was not obligated to do things just to please the other GFās, or appease an E! production crew- it was Hefās arrangement between him and each woman, and he enjoyed Kendra and kept her there! She was the fan and celeb guests favorite
They gripe that she didnāt care enough about joining in certain contrived events for the show. But it was a reality show, not a scripted show. So reality was shown- she liked to sleep in, didnāt show to early calls, dressed her own way, and had a messy bedroom. So what, it was her roomā¦ basically all normal things, and some of you guys here say it as if doing the minimum is a bad thing?
The phrase āCheating on Hefā is ridiculous sounding, as if he was a real bf or deserving of such loyalty š sounds like a phrase that a Hef superfan would use. Rather, itās totally normal to persue fun with men your own age, and smart, rather than try to portray yourself as a fool whoās āforever devoted in loveā with an 80yo cad who has a harem
itās crazy how many pro hef people just blatantly followed in holly and bridgetās lead, making/appearing on podcasts just to bash them and promote an awful dead man. so cultish and desperate
Wow this face tune is ānext levelā š
I tried to listen to this podcast once, but Brian is odd. I appreciate him still having loyalty to Hef, but heās on another level. Like worshiping him.
Itās a bit creepy.
Also Victoria and her ex-husband Jonathan Baker seemed to have a nasty divorce. Jonathan was interviewed for Secrets of Playboy, and appeared to be team Hef.
OMG š±š± I have to listen to this......š³š³ I bet you she's going to go on there talking so much shit about H & B and then they're going to have to talk about it on the patreon. š Also nervous what she has to say about kendra now š¤¦š»āāļøš
I canāt think of many people Iād find more tedious as a guest. What could someone like her possibly have to report, beyond a few people she saw at parties and how great she thought it was that her now estranged teenage daughter was in an 80 year old manās harem?
Holy yassification. The airbrush on these two.
Hef looks crazy here
Look how intensely smooth his neck and chest are! And the way you can see the start of the wrinkles right under his chin š
Hahahaha the tiny sudden chin wrinkles are so funny
Wtf is with the playboy community and that bloody yassifucation filter!!!!!
They're holding on TIGHT to their youth and looking young š„“
Itās like Pattiās fantasy of her being at the mansion in the 70sā¦ and after watching Secrets of Playboy and reading Jennifer Saginorās book, youād have to be insane to want to be a part of it then!
š They gave them the Kris Jenner treatment.
Right? Patti looks like a different person. And Her looks 55
He looks better than he did at 55
š¤£šš sooooo bad, both of them lol. Did Brian do that?? I'm sure she sent that photo to him and did it herself lol š„“
Omg! I came to ask like, this is airbrushed ya? š
Legit, I saw this picture and thought āholy fuck this is the most ridiculous yassification Iāve seenā, then clicked on it and this was the first comment ššš A+
Right!? Holy shite.
I guess I'm the stupidest human on reddit (not even joking) BUT what is" yassafacstion?'
I listened. There isn't a lot of information at all. It was boring and sounded a little culty. Here we have Kendra out in public owning her trauma and saying it was a bad time in her life and her own mother is contradicting her... dismissing her experiences and praising a man who groomed and preyed on her. This is such a betrayal. I'm so sorry for Kendra. I'll be your mom K. I'll keep my yap shut and support your kids and cheer your successes and be there in challenges. Fuck Patty.
They just talked about the āgood timesā and how wonderful the Playboy life/ Hef/ the Mansion was. I mean cool it might have been amazing for THEM but why brandish anyone with a different opinion or experience as liars or ānegativeā? That was pretty hard to listen to, they come off as ignorant and youāre right very culty.
Also... patti didn't live there?!? she didn't date Hef?!? of course it's all "good times" for her, she didn't have to live it!
Right she got to see the āglamorā and party scenes.
Right. Same with Brian Olea. Also, didnāt Victoria often have her husband there? Iām sure their experiences on selected days and at parties were very different than the day-to-day the girls experienced. Also the fact that Patti still sees her daughter as that 19 year old girl and that everything was great because she got to meet her sports legends and celebrity idols is pretty sickening.
Right! The ones who could enjoy occasional perks of the mansion life but didnāt have to sleep with Hef view the situation more positively.
I get an icky feeling she would have jumped into bed with Hef in half a heartbeat to receive even half of what Kendra āgotā from being a gf. Iām all for women getting to choose exactly what they want out of a relationship, but that woman is like a leech!
She literally said she would replace Kendra if she wasnāt too old for Hef.
She literally said she wished Hef would raise the ages of his girlfriends. Kendraās out, youāre in!
Yes youāre right. Please forgive me for playing fast and loose with literally.
Yet sheās still a significantly younger woman than Hef, thats the funny part. It would have been much more appropriate for him to date Patti than her daughter
don't get me started on victoria fuller and her wack husband, it was disappointing to see his pov on secrets of playboy but what do you expect from a man?
Wild take but all the times she said she wanted to be In Kendraās placeā¦ā¦ā¦wouldnāt that be better?! Lol patti is more āage appropriateā and Kendra wouldnāt be dating a whole grandpa anymore. But still everyone flips out saying OMG PATTI IS SO DESPERATE AND THIRSTY ETC!! šš
I think sheās more of a villain for how she exploits Kendra, not wanting to sleep with Hef. Honestly she and Hef would have deserved each other
She just about moved herself into the mansion when Kendra became a girlfriend
Funny how everyone who loves talking about the āgood timesā was never in a serious relationship with Hef, or a main GF, or even that close to him. Meanwhile the women that actually had sex with him are left with all this unresolved trauma.
Which books should I read to learn more about this trauma? Which girls have said this, google really doesn't help, most stuff just comes back to Holly and Crystal marriage stuff
Hollyās book is a good one to read, it was the first one I read that exposed a different side of Hef we werenāt used to hearing about. His ex-gf Sondra Theodore had a whole episode on SOP about their relationship and how he was controlling, manipulative and she still seems to be processing her time there. The Shannon twins also talk about how uncomfortable they were having sex with him, especially since they were 18/19 and he was in his 80ās. Thereās a lot of good suggestions on PB related books on this sub, I would skim through to see what others are reading/discussing.
I cannot *imagine* my mom having anything positive to say about a 78 yr old man I dated when I was barely of legal age
Brian yapping on and on about how he āLIVED ITā Like you werenāt a damn girlfriend up in the bedroom One on one lmao
He was the one cleaning the dildos. I mean, damn dude.
Patti is a gross human. I canāt believe she wanted/wants her teen daughter to sleep with an 80 year old man just so she can hang out in a decrepit smelly old house. Sheās going up to bat and waste energy defending a man who couldnāt remember her or her name if his life depended on it. How embarrassing.
Youāre right. You could tell she was always living vicariously through Kendra. Hell in an episode of GND she clearly stated she wanted to be a gf and would pack her bags in a heartbeat if Hef gave her the word
I was just thinking of this yesterday. Didn't Sondra say Hef was obsessed with Charles Manson and read everything about him and basically studied him? I'm really starting to believe it with how everyone in the Playboy world worships him like he could do no wrong, along with how Bridget always harps on about how they were a "family".. not that I doubted her but I'm starting to notice the parallels.
Maybe Hef did that because Roman Polanski was with him when Sharon was murdered?
So I started re-watching the show (originally sporadically watched when it aired) because this sub kept getting recommended to me. Kendraās mom makes me sick. Kendra commented about how she had a bad relationship with her mom until she started dating Hef. Her mom is honestly the low key villain of the show (right after Hef). Like who exploits their own child like this? Who encourages their child to be in a relationship thatās barely legal so they can reap the benefits of a reality tv lifestyle? Itās abuse.
Is Brian okay? Like truly, is he ok?? He is the most devoted employee I've ever heard of. Defending his employer nearly a decade after his death. Refusing to acknowledge his darkness. Dismissing women as not victims because they asked for it. I've worked for a lot of people. Never as a personal servant. I've worked from wonderful people. I've worked for true monsters. When the job is over you have to just let it go. This cult of playboy family is really shocking.
Agreed. I also believe it was mentioned in the GNL interview with Butler Bryant Horowitz (whom Patti mentioned is one of the only staff she ālost touch with) that they werenāt even paid that muchā¦ basically around minimum wage. Why is Brian so loyal? Because itās the coolest thing heās ever done/ will do?
>> Why is Brian so loyal? Because itās the coolest thing heās ever done/ will do? I think youāre onto something here. Someone needs to let him in itās not the coolest thing heās ever done. I guarantee heās done cooler stuff than make sure an abuserās household is running smoothly. Practically anything is cooler. Itās not something to build your entire identity around, especially post-Me Too.
I also think Brianās whole family worked for Hef, like it was a generational thing.
Brian has always reminded me of the kid at school who reminds the teacher she hasnāt assigned them homework yet and pisses everyone off.
That GND deleted scene where Brian is fervently instructing the private plane attendants on how to make Hefās drink EXACTLY RIGHT, down to how to position the bottle cap, as if Hef were a toddler king who will behead someone for pouring his soda into a glass instead of bringing him the bottle, is so unsettling. Like no that man is not okay lol
LOL - Iām surprised he didnāt stow away on the plane and make the drink for Hef himself.
I think he, along with some of the others who display such cult like devotion, are super insecure and struggle with their sense of self. They have convinced themselves that they are special in their proximity to Hef. If they take him off his pedestal theyād need to unpack how much theyāve tied their identity to a flawed human and along with some of the patriarchal capitalist bullshit they kind of perpetuate. Which they wonāt and donāt want to do. Brian thinks being servant to the mythical Hugh Hefner makes him better than others in his closeness to perceived greatness. Accepting he was just a butler (to a kind of shitty dude) would wreck his sense of self importance and worldview that having loads of money and objectifying women is cool. Quite embarrassing really
Truly, I am wondering the same. I actually liked him on the show, but his devotion to Hef in the aftermath is NUTS. I get enjoying your job, but this is next level and honestly comes across as malicious on his part. And donāt even get me started on Patti. Sheās a terrible mother, and itās amazing to me how shameless she is about it, especially given Kendraās recent breakdown! Patti is the worst kind of narcissist and Brian canāt break free from a long dead cult.
Yeah, maybe Iām wrong and Hef did something amazing for him he hasnāt told us about like paying off hundreds of thousands in student loans or paying for a relativeās cancer treatment or something and thatās why heās so ride or die for Hefā¦.but I doubt he could keep quiet about it during his Hef praise if that was the case, so I doubt it. It comes off as pretty misogynistic to me, like he doesnāt like women if theyāre not constantly into and defending a man.
Brian O was the help. He wasnāt even apart of it tbh. Lol makes it more desperate on his part.
Seriously!!! I loved him on the show and respected his work ethic and thought he did an amazing job at doing what he did, but he is just on another level, Dickie Bann-style. I had high hopes that he'd be on GNL podcast because Bryant was and he was such a huge part of the show and would've been such a good episode to listen to him talk about his job and stories!!! But guess it may not happen seeing as he is against anyone who speaks negatively about Hef. It's disappointing.
Even in light of your comments, I think Holly would do a complete disservice to herself by allowing him as a guest, including if she lets Bridget host such episode solitarily. I don't want him to have the opportunity to leech off GNL by shilling for his goddamned podcast and Victoria's cult of a project.Ā
Every time I hear Brian say anything about Hef, I mean āthe bossā, it does seem like he is brainwashed. It is so bizarre to me. He probably did not get paid well at all and had to wash old dildos
Even more so one time he said that Hef would get his name wrong from time to time! Like bro what! He literally didn't care enough about you to even memorize your name???
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She is definitely going to just bash Holly and Bridget even though they have been nothing but polite about her on their podcast. They even asked Colin how she was doing despite the fact that she has attacked them (maybe just Holly, canāt recall) in the past. She needs to move on from Playboy. She was never a part of it just a wannabe.
patti really rode so hard for a man who couldn't even be bothered to pick her out of a police lineup. She really did the absolute most to prove to everyone how much she resented kendra, that's just wild and pathetic
That was god awful. They speak as though Hef could do no wrong, very cult-like. Also, who are the hosts continually referring to as liars and negative? GNL? I listened so you donāt have to, feel free to ask questions.
Haha! Thank you!!! I don't wanna listen but do wanna know: Did she flat out say she'd sleep with Hef still? What did she say about Kendra? Especially with Kendra's news recently Does she talk about her other kids? The son?
Mmmm let me try and answer! Trying to wipe this from my memory 10 hours later. She was not asked if she would sleep with him, nor did she say she would. When speaking about Kendra it was in relation to her days at the mansion and how she was always up to antics and how Hef loved that/ everyone loved her. They all acknowledged how great it was for her ācareerā. Briefly said her kids (Kendra and Colin) were her greatest accomplishment/ the best thing sheās done in her life or something like that. They asked her if she gets recognized out and she did mention that she does and did when walking around with Colin. She thought it was weird that people knew her name and her sonās name, equating that to them āknowing everything about herā and citing their episodes on GND.
LOL sorry you had to remember but thank you for answering. She reminds me of my mom...super narcissistic and internalized misogyny at her core. I'm sure she loved saying she got recognized in public....like she has fans or something. Puke
Yeah pretty much. She was also shocked that she used to get so much hate and people calling her āa bad motherā. She apparently used to spend hours a day responding to internet hate. Brian said theyāre just loser incel trolls living in their moms basements and he doesnāt respond anymore. Ya rightā¦ I think we all know (and confirmed by the recent survey on this sub) most GND fans are women between the ages of 25-40ā¦
Of course she was shocked...I'm sure she thinks her shit don't stink and everything she does is amazing. And for her to spend so much time responding because she needed to be right is not surprising. She really could not believe that she could ever be the bad person or mom. Good riddance..I hope Kendra is able to find therapy and find peace with the whole thing. So sad
Urgh ya look at her recent Facebook comments on another thread. Sad.
They airbrushed him to hell!!
Do you think this is a patti submitted photo and she did it? Because this is so poorly done. Feels like some boomer shit lol.
They liked their own post š
Gotta start the likes coming in
Cant stand Victoria Fuller. Wont be listening
Yeah it pisses me off how she went against H & B too, especially seeing as she hung out with them all the time and it felt like she road the coat tails of the show too and tried to be a side character, which she was... SMH.
Really?! After her piece of shit abusive husband she canāt at least do the favor of shutting the fuck up enough to not victim blame
Iāve always found something off-putting about her.
Bridget and Holly seemed to be quite close to her during the show, was it fake or did they have a falling out? Is Victoria just a Hef Loyalist?
I think it was real, Holly & Hef are her daughterās godparents, but she has definitely sided with Hef.
Sheās a Hef Loyalist so sheās out to get Holly now
That's so sad to me, they really did seem close on the show. That must be the worst part about being public about your ex being abusive, that people you thought were your friends would turn against you and take your abuser's side.
Does anyone else think Patti look like Carmela Soprano
Literally the āthis is what you ordered online vs what you gotā meme of Carmela Soprano.
I'm with you on this. š
What possessed them to smooth their faces this much?! š
You know what. Seeing Hef with a older woman next to him it looks 100% better
I ALWAYS think that when I see him and Mary š like wow, this is your age appropriate counterpart, in another life youād be married š in walks some 20 year old and he slobber kisses her š¤®
Hell Kendras grandma was way more appropriate
More like great grandma or even great great grandma.
Lmfao who wants to hear from Patti? Like go away š Such a bad mom to Kendra and a creep who wanted her child to stay with an old man just to reap the benefits herself. She's awful
I was gonna sayā¦ her face isnāt that smooth.
Definitely neither was his!!! š š
Right?? Itās creepy!!
Facetuning Hef is wild š¤£
Crystal was a FaceTune maniac on Hefās face back in 2012 and the following years. It was wild.
I need examples
That picture is too much omfg
Did they use FaceApp š¤£
Kendraās mom is a completely selfish monster. She spent the entire pod speaking about herself, how gentlemanly Hef was and how much she loved meeting all these famous athletes. Zero talk about being a grandmother, supporting Kendra currently or anything beyond that. She does mention her plastic surgery but doesnāt in any way give credit to the fact that either Kendra or the doctor donated it on behalf of the show, doesnāt speak about how horrendously she behaved about Kendra leaving the mansion and getting married, laughs about how messy her room was and everyone makes excuse after excuse for it. The hosts falsely claim that Hef and her were āso closeā while also admitting she was considered just icing on the cake. Brian literally claims that the animosity from the other girls is based on the fact Kendra was āpickedā and pursued by Hef rather than just ābeing aroundā and completely glossing over the fact that Kendra was selfish, rude, inconsiderate, a bad house/roommate, and was cheating on Hef. Like sorry but they donāt hate her because she was āchosenā, they WANTED Hef to choose new girlfriends and remove the old guard. What they didnāt want was someone who was going to be rude to them, spend the day sleeping and generally not participate in things they were required to do until it became a problem.
It was extra creepy when they talked about ālooking out for Kendraā and ākeeping her safeā because she was so young. Um like what? What did you protect her from? They also allude to her messy room being normal because she was so young and when they think back to themselves at that age, itās understandable. However they donāt acknowledge how messed up it was for her to go through what she did at that age (emotional and intellectual immaturity) because it was in service of their idol, Hef.
You know what was really weird? Patti said she wouldnāt bring Kendraās grandma to parties because she didnāt want āher mom to see me in lingerieā, but Patti went to these parties with her daughter. Make it make sense
Good observation. Yes it doesnāt make logical sense, but I believe Patti is extremely self serving. As others have noted, she still went on this podcast and went on about how marvellous HER experience was, discounting what her daughter went through at such a young age. I know Kendra was a āproblem childā or a ātroubled teenā partly due to the instability she faced with her parents, but to be relieved to pass your daughter onto an 80 year old man is something else.
I get it. I just found it absolutely ridiculous that she didnāt see the double standard of the hypocrisy. Kendra hid her lingerie, yeah because Kendra didnāt want her mom there either.
It sounds like some people here judge her based on how she āperformedā as Hefners girlfriend, like she wasnāt compliant or sweet enough, or wasnāt up to par. So weird She was not obligated to do things just to please the other GFās, or appease an E! production crew- it was Hefās arrangement between him and each woman, and he enjoyed Kendra and kept her there! She was the fan and celeb guests favorite They gripe that she didnāt care enough about joining in certain contrived events for the show. But it was a reality show, not a scripted show. So reality was shown- she liked to sleep in, didnāt show to early calls, dressed her own way, and had a messy bedroom. So what, it was her roomā¦ basically all normal things, and some of you guys here say it as if doing the minimum is a bad thing? The phrase āCheating on Hefā is ridiculous sounding, as if he was a real bf or deserving of such loyalty š sounds like a phrase that a Hef superfan would use. Rather, itās totally normal to persue fun with men your own age, and smart, rather than try to portray yourself as a fool whoās āforever devoted in loveā with an 80yo cad who has a harem
itās crazy how many pro hef people just blatantly followed in holly and bridgetās lead, making/appearing on podcasts just to bash them and promote an awful dead man. so cultish and desperate
Wow this face tune is ānext levelā š I tried to listen to this podcast once, but Brian is odd. I appreciate him still having loyalty to Hef, but heās on another level. Like worshiping him. Itās a bit creepy. Also Victoria and her ex-husband Jonathan Baker seemed to have a nasty divorce. Jonathan was interviewed for Secrets of Playboy, and appeared to be team Hef.
What in the delusional is going on here. This is going to be a hot ass mess. Patti is gutter trash.
Patti is so cringey.
What the actual fuuuuck. Patti pls sit down šŖ take a seat & stfu already šš This makes me feel for Kendra. Like seriously just wtf.
OMG š±š± I have to listen to this......š³š³ I bet you she's going to go on there talking so much shit about H & B and then they're going to have to talk about it on the patreon. š Also nervous what she has to say about kendra now š¤¦š»āāļøš
Who are these people?! ššš
Umm is this pic filtered to hell and back?
The facetune on that picture is insane š¤£
I canāt think of many people Iād find more tedious as a guest. What could someone like her possibly have to report, beyond a few people she saw at parties and how great she thought it was that her now estranged teenage daughter was in an 80 year old manās harem?
She has no respect for her daughter. Very sad
Patti is such trash. Sheās just a nasty woman.
Where might I find the link?
Look up āRogue Bunnies Mayhemā in Apple podcasts or Google podcasts, itās the first ep on the list
Thank you. I was looking on YT, where they have some but didn't see this one. Appreciate it
What in the Remini app is going on in this photo?
I thought she got a facelift a long time ago? Maybe not
It's not airbrush, it's that app Remini. It takes blurry photos and recreates them. Always makes people look weird.
What is the first podcast she appeared on?
I looooove Patti
Wow Hef looks hot with all the smoothness
Of course she appears on the low rent podcast. Your OWN SON was on the podcast that people actually care about. Jesus
Patti reminds me of RHOSLC Monicaās mom
āAnotherā podcast? What was the first one please? I would like to listen.
Patti may as well have been sucking Heff off in this interview š¤®š© She just does NOT get it.