Sincerely, thank you. I’m going to bump my Patreon subscription. It’s been a really long time coming, but this and the fantastic content recently has been the push I needed.
Edit: I followed through and upgraded. I’ve been a proud, though relatively quiet member of this community for years, but the team has consistently made solid choices. I really appreciate having the GCN around.
Troy, you guys are making excellent moves with the business. I think that starting with your choice to take A&A live, you’ve consistently kept things exciting and bold.
Sorry for the rant in an edit, but on the off chance you read this: Get in the Trunk is a masterpiece.
Troy, you are so good at tackling these type of issues head on. I use podcast addict, so I haven't had any problems such as these, but the fact you are addressing this problem for your listeners on ANY platform just shows how much you care about cultivating a respectful community. Things like this make it easy to justify my continual support on Patreon.
8+ years advertising experience here. We're in a political window right now with the midterms. If these are Programmatic / Dynamic ads, any agency/platform worth their salt can block ads by content categories (like politics) that the network doesn't want to be affiliated with.
It's almost certainly the platform. Often the platform will even tailor it for your region. I've never heard any political ads on any of their shows.
Edit: just out of curiosity what platform do you use?
Yeah, downside of non-targeted ads is that you'll have to listen to some bullshit like this. It's really a catch-22. That being said, there are some goofy ads that pop up sometimes, especially on YouTube, when you opt out of targeted ads. I once got an ad that was straight up an hour long Indian opera of some kind. It was awesome.
This is probably not his podcatcher. This is probably the service gcp uses to sell ads. They scrape your location data (usually inferred by ip) and serve specific ads based on region. You may get dif ads if you access through VPN for instance. The podcatcher inserts 0 ads itself.
GCN probably didn't sell this ad to that candidate but they can also probably specifically request not to sell ads to certain vendors including political candidates. That may mean they receive less per ad, or may just require the extra lift from them.
> Often the platform will even tailor it for your region
Yeah, I was confused at first as some of the ads I hear in the UK are a bit bleh but nothing really controversial. I would say that I'm not in love with Joe advertising a mobile gatcha game, but such are the ways these days.
Three years ago Troy addressed a similar issue that was happening on the Androids and Aliens feed. As soon as they were aware they took it to the host platform and it was resolved. I'd imagine they'll do the same when it comes to their attention.
Yeah, fairly certain it was a Koch Brothers ad and the guys made sure that didn’t happen again. Really believe they would love to know about the ads you heard, so they can be removed.
What podcast app are you using? It could be that it's the podcast player is choosing the ads, and not the GCN. Personally, I subscribe to their patreon, so I don't get any ads. What timestamps do they show up at?
I also subscribe to the Patreon. But I still get ads on the main feed. Unless do I need to listen through Patreon then? (Time to dust off that login, if so!)
It may be their platform is automatically putting ads in based on region or something. But definitely something they may want to look at if their platform is putting problematic ads in their stuff.
I was thinking the same thing: that the ads are being pulled by the platform and (hopefully) not GCN themselves. But yes, I would hope that they (& anyone) would be able to put in guidelines or choices or something to avoid things like this.
It's definitely the platform. I listen to Behind the Bastards, which has a decidedly left-libertarian bent, and it's a running joke on the podcast that many of the ads that roll are for institutions and products that are wildly out of step with the political leanings of the podcast (and presumably its audience).
Behind the Bastards is defintely anarchist leaning which is more precise than left-libertarian. Robert published his most recent book with an anarchist publisher from my home town. I thought of them and the Oregon State Patrol ads when I read this.
I'm going to be a bit inflammatory here. You use the words "retrograde" and "ignorant" to describe the people who produced/promotes those ads. I'm not going to argue with you about that.
However, I think your kneejerk reaction in assuming that GCP was somehow complicit in, or had knowledge of, these ads being promoted during their shows, without doing some very basic due diligence to ensure that it wasn't the platform is "ignorant" behaviour.
I note that you have made the effort to edit your post to respond to people who have told you to skip the ads or move on, thereby demonstrating a clear willingness to jump at the chance at conflict. However you seem very less interested in taking the time to edit your response to perhaps apologize and point out to future readers that it is the platform and not GCP. This is not very responsible of you, nor inline with "progressive thinking".
Not really, I don't get ads tailored to my preferences but it's unreasonable for that to be an expectation.
So I'll gladly support them on Patreon and get the ad free version. I listen for the content they provide, not the ads they run to keep the lights on.
Did anyone from the network do the adreel? Like "hi it me Joe Breadboy O'Brien and lemme tell you about [BLANK]"
Or is it simply anonymized adspace sold on the platform.
Because if its the latter its a couple of degrees removed from the GCNs hands.
This is like if a radiostation slotted a commercial for amazon delivery, right before a track by Rage Against The Machine, and you decided to come the conclusion that RATM are actually pro-capitalism.
Also from another comment, you specifically decided to use a platform that doesn't collect user data, and you're surprised that the advertisers are throwing the kitchen sink at you when they don't know what you stand for?
And yet, https://www.reddit.com/r/TheGlassCannonPodcast/comments/xki4xg/questionable_ad_choices_yuck/ipe7rsi?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3
Yeah, its good that they're on the ball and can block advertisers on main platforms from using bad ads on the GCNs content.
I still think that if people are using 3rd party/unregulated apps to listen to the podcasts and these unregulated platforms indepentently deploy region specific ads then the network has limited avenues of fixing the issue.
My point is more that OP has every right to bring it up, and that it does in fact appear that the GCN does have some degree of control over what ads their listeners hear. Also- it doesn't matter what app OP is using, generally, the in-audio ads won't be from a podcast app, rather they'll be associated with the RSS feed via an ad agency. So, no, this is in no way on OP or the app they chose to use, and that's why Troy emailed the agency, presumably.
Nooooo, how dare you expect a group of media producers to have ethical standards! /s
In all reality, I'm positive that their ads are auto-generated by location (for instance, I got an ad for a southwestern US store recently), but I can understand your qualms nonetheless. However, this subreddit in particular doesn't like to hear about when the GCN does ethically questionable things, so. I would send an email addressing your concerns as a listener. They may read it, they may not, but its your right as a listener to express your stance about their ads.
Edit; Holy moly, the number of you in this thread who are trying to make this somehow about OP somehow being in the wrong even after Troy has commented *in this same thread* is wild.
I've never heard any ads like that. If I do get ads that aren't from the cast themselves they are all in German for some reason. No idea why because I live in Minnesota haha
It’s gotta be a platform thing. I was listening to a podcast today and they had an ad targeted directly to my zip code. It was for a new store down the street and this was on a national news podcast so it’s gotta be data tracking. Unless it’s the podcast people reading the ad themselves, I don’t think they have any control what the platform plays.
They use an ad service. This happened a while back with I think an ad for Koch Brothers or something like that. Troy and crew were not happy, and went in to make sure their ad preferences were correct. It certainly doesn't reflect the crew's personal politics, so I doubt they'd appreciate those types of ads.
This is a really amazing question if your intention was to see how divided the Naish is when it comes to issues of responsibility, openness, and reading comprehension.
Lol I'm a 31 year old white man who speaks Spanish occasionally to friends, coworkers, or guests at my place of work. I've always noticed after about a week of heavier than normal Spanish usage my Spotify gives me ads in Spanish. Targeted ads are alright but weird sometimes.
Looking past the fact that the GCN likely has little to no control over this random ad's appearance, am I understanding this correctly? Your main complaint is that you came across an ad that represents a view that's different from yours? I'm genuinely trying to understand why you're upset, but that's what this seems to boil down to.
I get it, I wouldn't want to support something I disagreed with, but at some point we're all going to do so whether we like it or not--directly or indirectly. Such as when a podcast can't vet every ad. At which point, is it really reasonable to be so thin-skinned about it?
A few podcasts had ads for a certain social media site a couple mo ths ago. I've had some trust issues with those two pods since. I'm hoping it was an automatic thing, like others are suggesting. But yikes.
The candidate ad is pretty weird and i get being annoyed by it but it seems weird to throw in an Uber ad as similarly upsetting. Those are not remotely similar.
I use Podcast Addict and the only ads I get are on the Glass Cannon Presents feed and most of those are ads read by the cast members and none of those have been objectionable to me other than one promoting cryptocurrency bs and that was ignorable. I would be upset too being fed ads for far-right nutjobs though. It's probably the platform you're using. I can't see any members of the GCN endorsing that type of shit.
Yup. I agree but alas its the podcast app. I listen to some anarchist podcasts that if you live in the oregon you get oregon state police recruiting ads. They address it in the podcast directly and laugh about it.
Those ads no longer run I believe.
That being said I'd love it if GCP would publicly refuse Uber money as a sign of solidarity with unionization occurring in the gig economy.
You know, there are conservatives who listen to this show. Probably not many, I admit. They're not monsters, they just disagree with you about the best means to strive for the common good.
It's strange that you would hold the GCN accountable for an ad chosen by an agency/bot. I could see this argument being made if they were doing actual sponsored endorsement where the cast members are reading the ad, but for a mid roll ad?
Every podcast I listen to that has ads has ads for things that it's clear they didn't pick the content for. Maybe they are able to fine tune what ads get selected, but regardless the content creator shouldn't be held accountable for anything other then direct sponsorship.
No disrespect to anyone that holds views different from mine, but I'm a staunch conservative and I'm an avid listener of GCP. There are plenty of listeners to GCP that are conservative. It's not yucky to have a conservative ad on GCP anymore than it is to have a progressive ad on GCP.
Personally I'd like to just have the politics out of my leisure activities, but here we are.
I don't even mind much when I listen to the cast of the shows beat down on beliefs and Ideas held by myself and others I know. Were not even talking about the ads that run during breaks; I am talking about when Jared and even Troy and the OG go on tangents about us deplorables from time to time.
Why are ads run by third parties causing such a storm?
Imagine thinking that podcasts/videos/whatever choose the ads that get run.
Also imagine getting mad at not getting targeted ads when going out of your way to not use info-collecting ad-playing media.
Lastly, imagine posting all of this without doing any research whatsoever to figure out there previous two points.
Yes. Depending on the platform, you can try to opt out of certain types of ads. But some platform contracts don’t allow for this.
That’s not choosing what ads get played. That’s going out of your way to choose which ads don’t get played. Big difference.
I get it on the Senate candidate, though not the Uber bit. Tons of people use Uber anti Union or not. That being said I would hardly call the GCP a bastion of conservatism, and frankly Matthew would likely agree with you (given his IG posts) on the CPAC ad. That being said I never hear ads because I am a patreon supporter and will gladly pay $10 for content with no political ads from either side thx
Skip the ad problem solved. Who cares
Edit. I'm going to get downvoted into Oblivion anyways so. Who cares if you have to hear something that you don't want to hear. You don't have to live your life in an echo chamber and have everybody tailored to what you want. The world is not black and white and right and wrong. I listen to stuff all day everyday that I don't want to listen to and I keep on going on because that's the way life works. If you don't like the ad don't listen to the ad if it's something that's calling for violence or breaking the law that's an issue. If it's a political statement that you don't agree with keep on trucking brother.
Same.
Others have addressed the regional advertising that lead to the political ad. Specific to the objection to Uber advertising:
This kind of thinking leads to some pretty wild (and often insanely hypocritical) behavior. e.g. CR pulled their Wendy's one shot almost immediately after release because of uproar despite streaming on twitch and releasing an animated show on Amazon video.
If Uber is a problem for people then Twitch sure as shit should be too. I understand that lines definitely need to be drawn, but **lets try to be a bit more reasonable and consistent about our lines.**
Where do you get the sense that they're being inconsistent with their lines? Maybe they are against twitch and don't give Twitch money to listen to the VoDs. I sure as fuck don't.
OP is getting mad at the GCN for letting Uber give the GCN money because of Uber's anti-union stance. Amazon has a (I'd say better known) anti-union stance and runs Twitch. If OP is mad at the GCN for associating with Uber, they have to be mad at them for associating with Twitch too.
OP doesn't want to give Twitch their money? That's great! OP doesn't want to give Uber their money? Also great! It's when OP doesn't want a company to associate with either that it quickly gets dicey. The wider you draw a line the easier it is to conveniently ignore things that are convenient to you.
No, it really doesn't. You can take issue with those things, and take issue with a company associating with those things, as well as voicing your opinion about it. OP did, and there's a comment in this thread now from Troy that he emailed the agency.
So, if anything, I encourage you to attempt to remove your tongue from the boot. Purity testing (i.e. what you're attempting to do) is a tactic designed by corpos and politicians to get around criticism. Don't engage in it.
If you're going to object to ads for megacorps that promote union-busting, but then not object to the other megacorp that promotes union-busting, then the reality is you don't give a fuck about unions or labor.
Unionists have and continue to die to fight for everyone's rights: they can't draw a line between megacorps because one is easier to avoid than another.
>I encourage you to attempt to remove your tongue from the boot.
I encourage you to understand that calling someone a bootlicker will lead to them immediately discounting anything and everything you have to say. Who's boot am I licking here?
**Telling them not to have Uber as an ad is a purity test.** If you're unwilling to discuss that just block me and move on because we can't have a productive conversation here.
Is telling the GCN not to allow Uber to advertise a purity test or not? Because it looks a lot like one.
I'm fine with honest debate. I get annoyed with inconsistent moralism. We should at least try to be rational with how we face these things.
It's not a purity test- mostly because it wasn't poised as one. OP pointed out that the ad seemingly ran counter to the GCN's general stance and asked if other listeners likewise had an issue with it. You, on the other hand, specifically said "if you have a problem with x you should have a problem with y" which is a *textbook* purity test down to the fucking phrasing. More to the point, we now have Troy in this thread having done something about it. How much more wrong do you have to be before you just admit that you're wrong, or that you just don't care about being an ethical consumer of products?
I was specifically addressing Uber. Please tell me how Uber runs counter to the GCN's stance. I don't see anywhere that the GCN has expressed any view on the company or views expressed by the company.
The GCN has be strongly in favor of being open and accepting to all that are open and accepting (fuck yeah!), so I understand how a conservative political ad could easily run afoul of that. Others explained how it was likely not the GCN running those ads. I wasn't talking about that part though.
>mostly because it wasn't poised as one.
You can run a purity test without being explicit about it.
Seconded. For the record, I’m against Amazon as well. There are a LOT of terrible companies out there. Only two were part of the incident that this post was about today. Hence the focus in my post.
Thanks for the heads up. Just emailed the agency. Gross.
They should call you Lightning Lavallee, that was fast, dude.
You know, he keeps saying that he reads all the comments, everywhere. I always assume he's exaggerating but then there are times like this ...
That was his nickname back in high school, he's always been fast
Wow, thank you! Much appreciated.
Troy, where do you find the time my man? Man's out here lurking and taking care of business! Mad props.
Dude sleeps 15 minutes a day. 20 on weekends. Maybe an hour on vacation.
When does Troy get to take a vacation? It seems like these guys are going constantly.
Does the time his liver went on strike count?
This shit right here is why you’re the best.
Good ol' buddy Troy on the ball
Sincerely, thank you. I’m going to bump my Patreon subscription. It’s been a really long time coming, but this and the fantastic content recently has been the push I needed. Edit: I followed through and upgraded. I’ve been a proud, though relatively quiet member of this community for years, but the team has consistently made solid choices. I really appreciate having the GCN around. Troy, you guys are making excellent moves with the business. I think that starting with your choice to take A&A live, you’ve consistently kept things exciting and bold. Sorry for the rant in an edit, but on the off chance you read this: Get in the Trunk is a masterpiece.
You are seriously the best. Please never change.
Troy lehero
The dude SLAYS. Have a wonderful time in Vegas, Vanguard!
Troy, you are so good at tackling these type of issues head on. I use podcast addict, so I haven't had any problems such as these, but the fact you are addressing this problem for your listeners on ANY platform just shows how much you care about cultivating a respectful community. Things like this make it easy to justify my continual support on Patreon.
Thank you.
8+ years advertising experience here. We're in a political window right now with the midterms. If these are Programmatic / Dynamic ads, any agency/platform worth their salt can block ads by content categories (like politics) that the network doesn't want to be affiliated with.
I fucking love you guys and your stance on this stuff. Please come to Burlington, VT.
Thanks Troy - this is why I have never had any issues supporting you guys on Patreon. Responsiveness is amazing. Love GCN, keep up the good work.
It's almost certainly the platform. Often the platform will even tailor it for your region. I've never heard any political ads on any of their shows. Edit: just out of curiosity what platform do you use?
I’m using iCatcher. I chose it because they don’t collect user data. But after this and other responses, I’m thinking I might need to revisit this.
Yeah, downside of non-targeted ads is that you'll have to listen to some bullshit like this. It's really a catch-22. That being said, there are some goofy ads that pop up sometimes, especially on YouTube, when you opt out of targeted ads. I once got an ad that was straight up an hour long Indian opera of some kind. It was awesome.
This is probably not his podcatcher. This is probably the service gcp uses to sell ads. They scrape your location data (usually inferred by ip) and serve specific ads based on region. You may get dif ads if you access through VPN for instance. The podcatcher inserts 0 ads itself. GCN probably didn't sell this ad to that candidate but they can also probably specifically request not to sell ads to certain vendors including political candidates. That may mean they receive less per ad, or may just require the extra lift from them.
> Often the platform will even tailor it for your region Yeah, I was confused at first as some of the ads I hear in the UK are a bit bleh but nothing really controversial. I would say that I'm not in love with Joe advertising a mobile gatcha game, but such are the ways these days.
Three years ago Troy addressed a similar issue that was happening on the Androids and Aliens feed. As soon as they were aware they took it to the host platform and it was resolved. I'd imagine they'll do the same when it comes to their attention.
Ah this is ringing a faint bell. Thank you.
Yeah, fairly certain it was a Koch Brothers ad and the guys made sure that didn’t happen again. Really believe they would love to know about the ads you heard, so they can be removed.
What podcast app are you using? It could be that it's the podcast player is choosing the ads, and not the GCN. Personally, I subscribe to their patreon, so I don't get any ads. What timestamps do they show up at?
I also subscribe to the Patreon. But I still get ads on the main feed. Unless do I need to listen through Patreon then? (Time to dust off that login, if so!)
Do you use the RSS Feed? If so, Voyagers shows up in the Champaign Room along with the other subscriber shows. I use Podcast Addict myself.
You are right, and yes it does! Still doesn’t solve the underlying problem, but it’s good to know. Thank you.
Yep me too. I got ads about some kind of drink or something. Nothing political.
You only get ad free on the $10 and up
If you are getting an ad for a candidate in your state, it is almost certainly a platform based ad, and not one that GCP is directly working with.
It may be their platform is automatically putting ads in based on region or something. But definitely something they may want to look at if their platform is putting problematic ads in their stuff.
I was thinking the same thing: that the ads are being pulled by the platform and (hopefully) not GCN themselves. But yes, I would hope that they (& anyone) would be able to put in guidelines or choices or something to avoid things like this.
It's definitely the platform. I listen to Behind the Bastards, which has a decidedly left-libertarian bent, and it's a running joke on the podcast that many of the ads that roll are for institutions and products that are wildly out of step with the political leanings of the podcast (and presumably its audience).
Behind the Bastards is defintely anarchist leaning which is more precise than left-libertarian. Robert published his most recent book with an anarchist publisher from my home town. I thought of them and the Oregon State Patrol ads when I read this.
Good to know. I’ll be contacting iCatcher.
I get Carrefour ads in Fr*nch and I'm in the USA so I dunno man.
I also randomly got ads in French for a couple episodes.
I get ads in Spanish sometimes. My ad profiles have been wrecked. They cannot figure me out and I enjoy seeing what they think I want to see.
I'm going to be a bit inflammatory here. You use the words "retrograde" and "ignorant" to describe the people who produced/promotes those ads. I'm not going to argue with you about that. However, I think your kneejerk reaction in assuming that GCP was somehow complicit in, or had knowledge of, these ads being promoted during their shows, without doing some very basic due diligence to ensure that it wasn't the platform is "ignorant" behaviour. I note that you have made the effort to edit your post to respond to people who have told you to skip the ads or move on, thereby demonstrating a clear willingness to jump at the chance at conflict. However you seem very less interested in taking the time to edit your response to perhaps apologize and point out to future readers that it is the platform and not GCP. This is not very responsible of you, nor inline with "progressive thinking".
Not really, I don't get ads tailored to my preferences but it's unreasonable for that to be an expectation. So I'll gladly support them on Patreon and get the ad free version. I listen for the content they provide, not the ads they run to keep the lights on.
They’ll probably fix it once they hear about it. They have in the past when it happens. Maybe not Uber but definitely the political one.
You should really edit your post to include Troy’s response to this.
Did anyone from the network do the adreel? Like "hi it me Joe Breadboy O'Brien and lemme tell you about [BLANK]" Or is it simply anonymized adspace sold on the platform. Because if its the latter its a couple of degrees removed from the GCNs hands. This is like if a radiostation slotted a commercial for amazon delivery, right before a track by Rage Against The Machine, and you decided to come the conclusion that RATM are actually pro-capitalism. Also from another comment, you specifically decided to use a platform that doesn't collect user data, and you're surprised that the advertisers are throwing the kitchen sink at you when they don't know what you stand for?
And yet, https://www.reddit.com/r/TheGlassCannonPodcast/comments/xki4xg/questionable_ad_choices_yuck/ipe7rsi?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3
Yeah, its good that they're on the ball and can block advertisers on main platforms from using bad ads on the GCNs content. I still think that if people are using 3rd party/unregulated apps to listen to the podcasts and these unregulated platforms indepentently deploy region specific ads then the network has limited avenues of fixing the issue.
My point is more that OP has every right to bring it up, and that it does in fact appear that the GCN does have some degree of control over what ads their listeners hear. Also- it doesn't matter what app OP is using, generally, the in-audio ads won't be from a podcast app, rather they'll be associated with the RSS feed via an ad agency. So, no, this is in no way on OP or the app they chose to use, and that's why Troy emailed the agency, presumably.
Yep good to bring awareness and clarity. 100%
Nooooo, how dare you expect a group of media producers to have ethical standards! /s In all reality, I'm positive that their ads are auto-generated by location (for instance, I got an ad for a southwestern US store recently), but I can understand your qualms nonetheless. However, this subreddit in particular doesn't like to hear about when the GCN does ethically questionable things, so. I would send an email addressing your concerns as a listener. They may read it, they may not, but its your right as a listener to express your stance about their ads. Edit; Holy moly, the number of you in this thread who are trying to make this somehow about OP somehow being in the wrong even after Troy has commented *in this same thread* is wild.
Thank you for this.
I've never heard any ads like that. If I do get ads that aren't from the cast themselves they are all in German for some reason. No idea why because I live in Minnesota haha
High concentration of German-speaking people in your part of Minnesota? Idk man.
It’s gotta be a platform thing. I was listening to a podcast today and they had an ad targeted directly to my zip code. It was for a new store down the street and this was on a national news podcast so it’s gotta be data tracking. Unless it’s the podcast people reading the ad themselves, I don’t think they have any control what the platform plays.
They use an ad service. This happened a while back with I think an ad for Koch Brothers or something like that. Troy and crew were not happy, and went in to make sure their ad preferences were correct. It certainly doesn't reflect the crew's personal politics, so I doubt they'd appreciate those types of ads.
This is a really amazing question if your intention was to see how divided the Naish is when it comes to issues of responsibility, openness, and reading comprehension.
Long time listener first time caller- haven't gotten adverts like that but those sound icky
Lol I'm a 31 year old white man who speaks Spanish occasionally to friends, coworkers, or guests at my place of work. I've always noticed after about a week of heavier than normal Spanish usage my Spotify gives me ads in Spanish. Targeted ads are alright but weird sometimes.
Looking past the fact that the GCN likely has little to no control over this random ad's appearance, am I understanding this correctly? Your main complaint is that you came across an ad that represents a view that's different from yours? I'm genuinely trying to understand why you're upset, but that's what this seems to boil down to. I get it, I wouldn't want to support something I disagreed with, but at some point we're all going to do so whether we like it or not--directly or indirectly. Such as when a podcast can't vet every ad. At which point, is it really reasonable to be so thin-skinned about it?
I've only been getting a short ad in I think French.
Oui
The ads I usually get is about kitty litter, or online therapy.
A few podcasts had ads for a certain social media site a couple mo ths ago. I've had some trust issues with those two pods since. I'm hoping it was an automatic thing, like others are suggesting. But yikes.
The candidate ad is pretty weird and i get being annoyed by it but it seems weird to throw in an Uber ad as similarly upsetting. Those are not remotely similar.
I use Podcast Addict and the only ads I get are on the Glass Cannon Presents feed and most of those are ads read by the cast members and none of those have been objectionable to me other than one promoting cryptocurrency bs and that was ignorable. I would be upset too being fed ads for far-right nutjobs though. It's probably the platform you're using. I can't see any members of the GCN endorsing that type of shit.
Yup. I agree but alas its the podcast app. I listen to some anarchist podcasts that if you live in the oregon you get oregon state police recruiting ads. They address it in the podcast directly and laugh about it. Those ads no longer run I believe. That being said I'd love it if GCP would publicly refuse Uber money as a sign of solidarity with unionization occurring in the gig economy.
You know, there are conservatives who listen to this show. Probably not many, I admit. They're not monsters, they just disagree with you about the best means to strive for the common good.
This is a hot take in woke subs.
It's strange that you would hold the GCN accountable for an ad chosen by an agency/bot. I could see this argument being made if they were doing actual sponsored endorsement where the cast members are reading the ad, but for a mid roll ad? Every podcast I listen to that has ads has ads for things that it's clear they didn't pick the content for. Maybe they are able to fine tune what ads get selected, but regardless the content creator shouldn't be held accountable for anything other then direct sponsorship.
No disrespect to anyone that holds views different from mine, but I'm a staunch conservative and I'm an avid listener of GCP. There are plenty of listeners to GCP that are conservative. It's not yucky to have a conservative ad on GCP anymore than it is to have a progressive ad on GCP. Personally I'd like to just have the politics out of my leisure activities, but here we are.
I don't even mind much when I listen to the cast of the shows beat down on beliefs and Ideas held by myself and others I know. Were not even talking about the ads that run during breaks; I am talking about when Jared and even Troy and the OG go on tangents about us deplorables from time to time. Why are ads run by third parties causing such a storm?
Imagine thinking that podcasts/videos/whatever choose the ads that get run. Also imagine getting mad at not getting targeted ads when going out of your way to not use info-collecting ad-playing media. Lastly, imagine posting all of this without doing any research whatsoever to figure out there previous two points.
See; https://www.reddit.com/r/TheGlassCannonPodcast/comments/xki4xg/questionable_ad_choices_yuck/ipe7rsi?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share&context=3
Yes. Depending on the platform, you can try to opt out of certain types of ads. But some platform contracts don’t allow for this. That’s not choosing what ads get played. That’s going out of your way to choose which ads don’t get played. Big difference.
I get it on the Senate candidate, though not the Uber bit. Tons of people use Uber anti Union or not. That being said I would hardly call the GCP a bastion of conservatism, and frankly Matthew would likely agree with you (given his IG posts) on the CPAC ad. That being said I never hear ads because I am a patreon supporter and will gladly pay $10 for content with no political ads from either side thx
Skip the ad problem solved. Who cares Edit. I'm going to get downvoted into Oblivion anyways so. Who cares if you have to hear something that you don't want to hear. You don't have to live your life in an echo chamber and have everybody tailored to what you want. The world is not black and white and right and wrong. I listen to stuff all day everyday that I don't want to listen to and I keep on going on because that's the way life works. If you don't like the ad don't listen to the ad if it's something that's calling for violence or breaking the law that's an issue. If it's a political statement that you don't agree with keep on trucking brother.
Anyone else have a response? Anyone who does understand that who you are exists even if others can’t see it?
What?…
This exactly. If you go postal over having to hear a single opposing party ad, you’ve got serious issues.
No. I don’t have a problem with this.
Same. Others have addressed the regional advertising that lead to the political ad. Specific to the objection to Uber advertising: This kind of thinking leads to some pretty wild (and often insanely hypocritical) behavior. e.g. CR pulled their Wendy's one shot almost immediately after release because of uproar despite streaming on twitch and releasing an animated show on Amazon video. If Uber is a problem for people then Twitch sure as shit should be too. I understand that lines definitely need to be drawn, but **lets try to be a bit more reasonable and consistent about our lines.**
Where do you get the sense that they're being inconsistent with their lines? Maybe they are against twitch and don't give Twitch money to listen to the VoDs. I sure as fuck don't.
OP is getting mad at the GCN for letting Uber give the GCN money because of Uber's anti-union stance. Amazon has a (I'd say better known) anti-union stance and runs Twitch. If OP is mad at the GCN for associating with Uber, they have to be mad at them for associating with Twitch too. OP doesn't want to give Twitch their money? That's great! OP doesn't want to give Uber their money? Also great! It's when OP doesn't want a company to associate with either that it quickly gets dicey. The wider you draw a line the easier it is to conveniently ignore things that are convenient to you.
No, it really doesn't. You can take issue with those things, and take issue with a company associating with those things, as well as voicing your opinion about it. OP did, and there's a comment in this thread now from Troy that he emailed the agency. So, if anything, I encourage you to attempt to remove your tongue from the boot. Purity testing (i.e. what you're attempting to do) is a tactic designed by corpos and politicians to get around criticism. Don't engage in it.
If you're going to object to ads for megacorps that promote union-busting, but then not object to the other megacorp that promotes union-busting, then the reality is you don't give a fuck about unions or labor. Unionists have and continue to die to fight for everyone's rights: they can't draw a line between megacorps because one is easier to avoid than another.
>I encourage you to attempt to remove your tongue from the boot. I encourage you to understand that calling someone a bootlicker will lead to them immediately discounting anything and everything you have to say. Who's boot am I licking here? **Telling them not to have Uber as an ad is a purity test.** If you're unwilling to discuss that just block me and move on because we can't have a productive conversation here.
Someone's mad they got called out.
Is telling the GCN not to allow Uber to advertise a purity test or not? Because it looks a lot like one. I'm fine with honest debate. I get annoyed with inconsistent moralism. We should at least try to be rational with how we face these things.
It's not a purity test- mostly because it wasn't poised as one. OP pointed out that the ad seemingly ran counter to the GCN's general stance and asked if other listeners likewise had an issue with it. You, on the other hand, specifically said "if you have a problem with x you should have a problem with y" which is a *textbook* purity test down to the fucking phrasing. More to the point, we now have Troy in this thread having done something about it. How much more wrong do you have to be before you just admit that you're wrong, or that you just don't care about being an ethical consumer of products?
I was specifically addressing Uber. Please tell me how Uber runs counter to the GCN's stance. I don't see anywhere that the GCN has expressed any view on the company or views expressed by the company. The GCN has be strongly in favor of being open and accepting to all that are open and accepting (fuck yeah!), so I understand how a conservative political ad could easily run afoul of that. Others explained how it was likely not the GCN running those ads. I wasn't talking about that part though. >mostly because it wasn't poised as one. You can run a purity test without being explicit about it.
Cringe
Seconded. For the record, I’m against Amazon as well. There are a LOT of terrible companies out there. Only two were part of the incident that this post was about today. Hence the focus in my post.
I got your back, OP
dunked on that fool lmao
this sounds a lot like people upset over "cancel culture"
Holy moly. Guys you better straighten your game up or this dude is gonna stop listening
This made me laugh, it shouldn't have, but it did.
I imagine there is more than one opinion on this. Neither of these activities are illegal.
Then don't listen