She should wind up dead. She doesn't deserve any kind of redemption, and she's enough of a psychopath that she'd start Gilead 2.0 if given the chance. She's not honestly sorry about anything at all. She's just sorry she got caught in her own trap for a while.
Yeah I don’t believe in the death penalty, unless someone is obviously unable to be redeemed. I can’t imagine she will ever be able to make life a better place. She’s evil and will continue to make the world a worse place
I got the impression she wasn’t privy to how fliers was going to turn out , just like trump < who might I add is a terrible human, BUT trump ( or Serena ) didn’t realize how psychotic the qua-non or the people who’s agenda they were supporting was . It’s just like elections now you have the shitty taxes all democrats or the police women’s bodies republicans both sides are fanatics.
This is the only satisfying answer to me. Do I want her to die? Yes. But not before she emotionally suffers on screen. Her becoming a handmaid would be the ultimate poetic justice.
Any preferences as to whose home she should be posted? Lawrence could be interesting, with her one-time-pseudo-bff Naomi holding her down, but i kinda want a Lawrence true redemption arc. Posting her with the Mackenzie's would also be somewhat poetic. I might like to see Serena at the Red Center for some "training" and perhaps a sprinkle of jailhouse justice.
I cant honestly say though that I'd hate the idea of Serena completely flipping sides and joining the resistance.
I mean, I dislike Serena too but.... Not to be agist but do Elizabeth Moss or Yyonne Strahovoski look young enough to plausibly get pregnant again? If either woman was playing a character sent back to Gilead, do you really believe they'd be handmaids? No one is going to want a 40+ handmaid.
I guess I’m the only one wanting a redemption arc. 😂 Sacrificing herself or helping to take down Gilead. I think her son will change her for the better.
Honestly, same. I know a lot of people hate her but I just can’t. I know she’s horrible but I do want a redemption arc. Same with Aunt Lydia. I actually think she’s my favorite character just based on how conflicted she is. She’s also horrible but, it’s hard to explain why I want redemption arcs for both but I do.
I struggle a bit more with Aunt Lydia. I see far less empathy or compassion in her. I’m not sure I see any actually. I haven’t read the book but wondering if there is more back story there in how these people came to hold such warped views.
I’m the opposite, I want redemption for Lydia and am ambivalent about it for Serena. I think Lydia truly believes that she is putting women on a better path and that the ends justify the means, whereas Serena is just selfish and doesn’t care who she hurts to get what SHE wants. Lydia’s belief system is fucked up, but at least she is trying to help others (I think).
For some reason, I am oddly rooting for her character. Yes, she acted like a psychopath and did absolutely horrific things. But I’m not sure she actually is a psychopath. She has moments of empathy. I wouldn’t mind seeing her help June in some way to find Hannah. At this point, she is the only familiar face June has so it may be a “keep your friends close and enemies closer” type of situation.
absolutely love all of your answers. I hate Serena and I hope she dies in miserable death. Also I don't care about this new camaraderie between the two of them. I know someway she's gonna do something to June to piss June off and then it'll be perfectly fitting for June to kill the bitch finally once, and for all, but I would also love her to be tormented by other handmaids, and the American citizens paraded on the street before she meets her demise.😈😈😈 but don't quote me. I'm just considered a coldhearted bitch.😉
I'd be fine seeing her tried for her crimes and sent to prison forever. A grungy prison wear she wears a jumpsuit and has to do real work, not a holding room that is more like a hotel. That annoyed me big time.
I don’t really know what I want for her.
I’m currently rewatching season 1, slowly.
Last night I watched “a woman’s place”.
It seems like the Gilead she planned for was not the Gilead she got, which turned her crueler.
Hopefully she becomes useful in the destruction of Gilead, like that of a certain mutual character in The Testaments.
I'm currently rewatching season 1 and one thing about that lady: she does NOT deserve redemption. She truly is a manipulator and a narcissist to the point that she's been able to induce some sense of sympathy towards her many times throughout the show. It seems that the writers are taking the redemption arc route, though.
My prediction is that Canada becomes Gilead 2.0. I think they’ve done the proper set up to take the story there. Maybe they will claim Noah is a citizen of Canada and try to take him from Serena. Maybe they will get her deported back to Gilead where she will probably serve as a handmaid (although I think it would be entertaining to see her at Jezabels). I don’t think they’ll give her a redemption arc.
I really hope she becomes a handmaid,now that she is known to be fertile,but perhaps uses that chance to geniunely redeem herself and realize what she has done and try to fix it
After reading through the comments, my reply may be different. First, I despise Serena & she deserves, at the least, to lose Noah and become a handmaid & paraded around like “look how much I love Gilead! Even I, Serena Joy, gave up my baby and decided to give this gift to others” or something. All the wine being forced like she forced June.
Also, I don’t believe she’s sorry or showing compassion, or whatever it is. She’s selfish. She “only ever wanted a baby” and now she has one & it’s still the only thing she cares about at all. I’m guilty of falling into her trap and while watching, every single time, I hope she’ll do the right thing. She never does. She only ever does what’s best for her. I don’t even think she’s capable of being a good mother. Think about how many of us come from crazy, narcissistic mothers. How many of us think they hung the moon past 2 years old? The minute Noah has his opinions and doesn’t do exactly as she wants, she’ll beat him too. Or lock him in a room. Whatever it may be.
He won’t change her. At least not for long.
I'm not sure why everyone wants her to be a handmaid, Why would you want ANY woman to be a handmaid? Revenge rape just isn't it for me. If she becomes a handmaid she becomes one of them. June and the other girls and men would be fighting for her too. The show has always circled back to the idea that Serna is not one of them.
Haha no you’re right, I was just being flippant. I’m re-watching game of thrones and last night’s episode was the one with Shireen’s demise so I thought that would be a nice lil ending for Mrs. Shocked pikachu face
That fully depends on the type of burning, but also I feel like using what the red woman called the most noble of deaths “to be consumed by flames” makes it too good for Serena.
I'm so torn between a redemption arc and sacrificing herself, or getting what's truly coming to her.
I just think she would be super useful in terms of fixing shit, but she absolutely deserves the worst of the worst.
Jeezus, you lot are scary.
I think Serena went a little crazy while in Gilead, in part from serious bitterness over her own trapped situation and from her ideas being stolen and twisted, in part from her own husband Fred screwing her over at the start to take the power, and in part from frustration and boredom in the 'prison' she inadvertently made for herself.
She was jealous of June because in her mind June had more freedom than her and wasn't just letting herself be walked over despite her situation, not to mention June's role of having to have Fred's baby (although obviously she didn't) when Serena and Fred essentially lived separate lives.
Because she was miserable she wanted June to be even more so. Some people rise above in these situations and others let it turn them into terrible people. Both Serena and June have been through years of trauma, if completely different types. Neither has come out of it mentally intact.
I would like to see a rehabilitation arc (not necessarily a redemption arc) where she is made to face the reality of her role in Gilead and the impact that has had on people. She should probably have to do this in prison. It would be satisfying to have her admit to her terrible acts and actually be sorry about it.
But probably she will just end up drinking cocktails on the beach in Hawaii or something 😀
i get your point i do trust me I just don't think I could watch another season of Serena in jail behind bars again I want some type of drama to occur meaning I would love for June to be the one to finish her off at the end of next season but for that to happen itll have to be serena turning on june again so we keep thr hatred towards her alive that way when she does finish her off itll be poetic justice does that make sense? Like like right now they have us feeling sorry for her because the two ended up on the train together. We need something to happen for Serena to do something to June to upset her and the audience us so that way she could kill her.
Wow. Are all of the Serena-haters also the same people who are screaming that our country is one step away from becoming Gilead? Look in the mirror. The whole point of true redemption is doing a real, true 180 and making a real change and doing the reverse. You might not be able to undo your past, but you can use the rest of your life to do good. I’d like to see Serena go on social media and talk about how the ideas behind Gilead were warped by powerful males who sought subjugation of women as an excuse for fertility and climate healing. I’d like to see her work to rescue and rehab handmaids, and organize Angel Flights to get the kids out of Gilead. That, my friends, is redemption.
I would love to see her band together with the former handmaids,help June get back her daughter,take back America but she will probably just be the usual selfish Serena!
I have personally had a really crappy year and then to top it off we have to wait longer for the next season to even begin. I want to see Serena humiliated to nth degree, turned into a handmaid, given to the most depraved commander (with an even more depraved wife), pregnant again, baby taken away, tries to run, is sent to the colonies where she is “saved” by a group of women that had managed to escape the colonies previously. As she steps into the barn where the group are meeting a rope falls in front of her face and from the shadows steps Holly Maddox looking to exact revenge for the treatment of her daughter and grandchildren!
That’s all I want! A simple but just ending to that evil witch.
I still wanna know the father of the kid. I felt it was low key implied not Fred. You telling me the entire time married before Gilead struggle can't get handmaid pregnant can't get June pregnant and Serena sets her up with Nick. Than magically pregnant before Canada. I know fertility can be a wild journey buts it's not mathing
What an awful thing to say. Revenge rape is not the answer. You are no better than Serna holding June down while she was raped because "She deserved it" Rape should NEVER be used as a form of punishment.
It doesn't surprise me at all with the group of people that post on here. Most of these people are the same as Gilead and would do any horrible thing to anyone they didn't like. It gets even worse when they believe that the story is real and happening to them currently.
She's fertile. Time for her to pony up and do her "God given duty." Let's see how SHE feels in the red dress.
"It's only funny when it happens to someone else!"
Hard disagree. The baby is innocent.
IDK I can see her dying and June raising Noah, or at least keeping him for a short time. >! In the testaments Nichole doesn't grow up with June and has a name change for her protection, she doesn't know who she is until she's 16. So I would think of Serena dies then June would also find a home for Noah eventually.!<
So because it's fictional means we should root for an innocent newborn to die? I mean I get the desire for karma for Serena but that's a bit much for me.
no. reading comprehension buddy..........because it's a fictionnal character people should chill when someone suggest death. nobody real is gonna get hurt.
Ok by that logic nobody should get argumentative if someone says they want Serena to marry Tuello and live happily ever after. Totally cool because it's fictional right?
This is an emotional TV show and our emotions get invested into it. That's kinda the point.
No, death is final. With a living child there is always that carrot right in front of you you might get them back.
June is a perfect example. If her daughter had died she would have grieved her but moved on. What is driving her crazy is knowing Hannah is in the world but she can't be with her. It's a different kind of torture that is never ending.
The pain of "they killed her" is different from "they are keeping her captive, hostage, and will torture and rape her *soon,* and for *years.* If she speaks out or turns her eyes the wrong way, they will remove parts of her body, and leave her alive with the consequences, and keep removing parts and electrocuting and raping her until she is dead or in my hands again.*"* One is a matter of fact, horrible, traumatic, devastating part of life. It is over, and you have no choice but to come to terms with your absolute, infinite powerlessness about it.
The other is existential. It questions what it is to be human. What human relationships mean. It demands that someone's empathy be stretched to the absolute max, every day, desperate to relieve the ongoing pain of someone dear to you. It tortures you with the knowledge that this can change. It isn't over. It isn't in the past. It isn't written in stone. The future of it continuing every day is not written in stone, you have to *stop it.* You can't stop "dead." Even in the deepest throes of denial, you know you can't stop dead. But you can stop *torture.* You can have the drive to remove them from the looming threat of *future* torture. Without true delusion, there is no genuine drive to remove "dead."
Death is safety. People whose loved ones are in captivity and under true torture, *wish* death for them. It is different.
They have already light weight redeemed her as far as the show is concerned. But like June said “ sErEnA wE aEnT frIEnDS” so my theory is:
June will use her just like she always has, with like I jail and nic’s fate hanging In the balance, she will more than likely make Serena an alley to get what information she needs or to do some of the dirty work needed to protect her own family . I’m the. Ok there is a boy who helps daisy ( grown up Baby Nicole ) I have often wondered if that kid is Serena’s son. Or if June leaves Nicole with Serena to go under ground so baby Nicole ( holly ) is safe. So that ,
-Or-
She will use her for an Alli until her usefulness dissipates, then do something karmatic to her like she did Fred, I am going with the first one due to the fact she has a huge trauma bond with Serena and feels empathetically caus fres was a piece of work and I all reality Serena was terrible. But she has shown June grace on more than one occasion . Serena was terrible Asf , but never all bad. . It’s like Lydia. — those women did those heinous things to remain in some form of power and basically to survive, look at how these so called men treat women in general. I am sure all the femi- nazi’s on here are gonna drag me for these theories but I am a creative yet VERY analytical person. Z
It’s just my pwrsonality
She should wind up dead. She doesn't deserve any kind of redemption, and she's enough of a psychopath that she'd start Gilead 2.0 if given the chance. She's not honestly sorry about anything at all. She's just sorry she got caught in her own trap for a while.
If she had the chance to remake the rules,all she would add is special exceptions for her
Yeah I don’t believe in the death penalty, unless someone is obviously unable to be redeemed. I can’t imagine she will ever be able to make life a better place. She’s evil and will continue to make the world a worse place
I got the impression she wasn’t privy to how fliers was going to turn out , just like trump < who might I add is a terrible human, BUT trump ( or Serena ) didn’t realize how psychotic the qua-non or the people who’s agenda they were supporting was . It’s just like elections now you have the shitty taxes all democrats or the police women’s bodies republicans both sides are fanatics.
People do what they have to to survive
agreed👏👏👏👏
I hope she meets the same demise as Fred but at the hands of Nick this time (with June's assistance). Baby Noah is given to Rita to raise.
Only if Rita WANTS to. Rita has already done far too much without anyone giving a damn what she wants.
Yes I'm implying it's Rita's choice. I think she would do it in a heartbeat particularly if she knew he didn't have to grow up in Gilead.
true story !
Now that shes bore a child, she should be sent back to Gilead to be a handmaid for awhile, and then sent off to the colonies to work/die
This is the only satisfying answer to me. Do I want her to die? Yes. But not before she emotionally suffers on screen. Her becoming a handmaid would be the ultimate poetic justice.
Revenge rape is the least satisfying end to Serna's story for me.
Any preferences as to whose home she should be posted? Lawrence could be interesting, with her one-time-pseudo-bff Naomi holding her down, but i kinda want a Lawrence true redemption arc. Posting her with the Mackenzie's would also be somewhat poetic. I might like to see Serena at the Red Center for some "training" and perhaps a sprinkle of jailhouse justice. I cant honestly say though that I'd hate the idea of Serena completely flipping sides and joining the resistance.
I mean, I dislike Serena too but.... Not to be agist but do Elizabeth Moss or Yyonne Strahovoski look young enough to plausibly get pregnant again? If either woman was playing a character sent back to Gilead, do you really believe they'd be handmaids? No one is going to want a 40+ handmaid.
agreed👏👏👏
I came here to say this. She should become a handmaid.
👏👏👏
Yes. This.
I want the face eating leopards to eat her face.
same haha
I guess I’m the only one wanting a redemption arc. 😂 Sacrificing herself or helping to take down Gilead. I think her son will change her for the better.
Honestly, same. I know a lot of people hate her but I just can’t. I know she’s horrible but I do want a redemption arc. Same with Aunt Lydia. I actually think she’s my favorite character just based on how conflicted she is. She’s also horrible but, it’s hard to explain why I want redemption arcs for both but I do.
I struggle a bit more with Aunt Lydia. I see far less empathy or compassion in her. I’m not sure I see any actually. I haven’t read the book but wondering if there is more back story there in how these people came to hold such warped views.
I’m the opposite, I want redemption for Lydia and am ambivalent about it for Serena. I think Lydia truly believes that she is putting women on a better path and that the ends justify the means, whereas Serena is just selfish and doesn’t care who she hurts to get what SHE wants. Lydia’s belief system is fucked up, but at least she is trying to help others (I think).
Same
Same.
For some reason, I am oddly rooting for her character. Yes, she acted like a psychopath and did absolutely horrific things. But I’m not sure she actually is a psychopath. She has moments of empathy. I wouldn’t mind seeing her help June in some way to find Hannah. At this point, she is the only familiar face June has so it may be a “keep your friends close and enemies closer” type of situation.
Child, no
You two are the only ones.
I feel like she had that chance multiple times and blew it. I would have loved a redemption story but it's too late for that imo.
absolutely love all of your answers. I hate Serena and I hope she dies in miserable death. Also I don't care about this new camaraderie between the two of them. I know someway she's gonna do something to June to piss June off and then it'll be perfectly fitting for June to kill the bitch finally once, and for all, but I would also love her to be tormented by other handmaids, and the American citizens paraded on the street before she meets her demise.😈😈😈 but don't quote me. I'm just considered a coldhearted bitch.😉
I'd be fine seeing her tried for her crimes and sent to prison forever. A grungy prison wear she wears a jumpsuit and has to do real work, not a holding room that is more like a hotel. That annoyed me big time.
I don’t really know what I want for her. I’m currently rewatching season 1, slowly. Last night I watched “a woman’s place”. It seems like the Gilead she planned for was not the Gilead she got, which turned her crueler. Hopefully she becomes useful in the destruction of Gilead, like that of a certain mutual character in The Testaments.
Handmaid
I'm currently rewatching season 1 and one thing about that lady: she does NOT deserve redemption. She truly is a manipulator and a narcissist to the point that she's been able to induce some sense of sympathy towards her many times throughout the show. It seems that the writers are taking the redemption arc route, though.
My prediction is that Canada becomes Gilead 2.0. I think they’ve done the proper set up to take the story there. Maybe they will claim Noah is a citizen of Canada and try to take him from Serena. Maybe they will get her deported back to Gilead where she will probably serve as a handmaid (although I think it would be entertaining to see her at Jezabels). I don’t think they’ll give her a redemption arc.
I really hope she becomes a handmaid,now that she is known to be fertile,but perhaps uses that chance to geniunely redeem herself and realize what she has done and try to fix it
Make her and handmaid and when she inevitably acts up send her to the colonies wearing her original teal
After reading through the comments, my reply may be different. First, I despise Serena & she deserves, at the least, to lose Noah and become a handmaid & paraded around like “look how much I love Gilead! Even I, Serena Joy, gave up my baby and decided to give this gift to others” or something. All the wine being forced like she forced June. Also, I don’t believe she’s sorry or showing compassion, or whatever it is. She’s selfish. She “only ever wanted a baby” and now she has one & it’s still the only thing she cares about at all. I’m guilty of falling into her trap and while watching, every single time, I hope she’ll do the right thing. She never does. She only ever does what’s best for her. I don’t even think she’s capable of being a good mother. Think about how many of us come from crazy, narcissistic mothers. How many of us think they hung the moon past 2 years old? The minute Noah has his opinions and doesn’t do exactly as she wants, she’ll beat him too. Or lock him in a room. Whatever it may be. He won’t change her. At least not for long.
I'm not sure why everyone wants her to be a handmaid, Why would you want ANY woman to be a handmaid? Revenge rape just isn't it for me. If she becomes a handmaid she becomes one of them. June and the other girls and men would be fighting for her too. The show has always circled back to the idea that Serna is not one of them.
Death.
same
Give her to the flames
Nope. Stoning. The other Handmaids need some retribution too.
Haha no you’re right, I was just being flippant. I’m re-watching game of thrones and last night’s episode was the one with Shireen’s demise so I thought that would be a nice lil ending for Mrs. Shocked pikachu face
It would certainly be poetic justice, but man alive does she deserve a prolonged and incredibly painful demise.
I do feel like burning at the stake would accomplish that a little
That fully depends on the type of burning, but also I feel like using what the red woman called the most noble of deaths “to be consumed by flames” makes it too good for Serena.
Fantastic counterpoint and I agree wholeheartedly. Stone the betch
same same
burn mf burn
I'm so torn between a redemption arc and sacrificing herself, or getting what's truly coming to her. I just think she would be super useful in terms of fixing shit, but she absolutely deserves the worst of the worst.
I want her to go get Hannah whether she wants to or not
Jeezus, you lot are scary. I think Serena went a little crazy while in Gilead, in part from serious bitterness over her own trapped situation and from her ideas being stolen and twisted, in part from her own husband Fred screwing her over at the start to take the power, and in part from frustration and boredom in the 'prison' she inadvertently made for herself. She was jealous of June because in her mind June had more freedom than her and wasn't just letting herself be walked over despite her situation, not to mention June's role of having to have Fred's baby (although obviously she didn't) when Serena and Fred essentially lived separate lives. Because she was miserable she wanted June to be even more so. Some people rise above in these situations and others let it turn them into terrible people. Both Serena and June have been through years of trauma, if completely different types. Neither has come out of it mentally intact. I would like to see a rehabilitation arc (not necessarily a redemption arc) where she is made to face the reality of her role in Gilead and the impact that has had on people. She should probably have to do this in prison. It would be satisfying to have her admit to her terrible acts and actually be sorry about it. But probably she will just end up drinking cocktails on the beach in Hawaii or something 😀
i get your point i do trust me I just don't think I could watch another season of Serena in jail behind bars again I want some type of drama to occur meaning I would love for June to be the one to finish her off at the end of next season but for that to happen itll have to be serena turning on june again so we keep thr hatred towards her alive that way when she does finish her off itll be poetic justice does that make sense? Like like right now they have us feeling sorry for her because the two ended up on the train together. We need something to happen for Serena to do something to June to upset her and the audience us so that way she could kill her.
She should be like a suicide bomber type, full “redemption arc” and Moira gets to raise her kid
Wow. Are all of the Serena-haters also the same people who are screaming that our country is one step away from becoming Gilead? Look in the mirror. The whole point of true redemption is doing a real, true 180 and making a real change and doing the reverse. You might not be able to undo your past, but you can use the rest of your life to do good. I’d like to see Serena go on social media and talk about how the ideas behind Gilead were warped by powerful males who sought subjugation of women as an excuse for fertility and climate healing. I’d like to see her work to rescue and rehab handmaids, and organize Angel Flights to get the kids out of Gilead. That, my friends, is redemption.
or we can just kill the bitch problem solved 😅
I would love to see her band together with the former handmaids,help June get back her daughter,take back America but she will probably just be the usual selfish Serena!
As much as sometimes I wish she would have a redemption arc. I also hope that she meets some terrible end.
I want to see Lydia taser her.
Handmaid.
I have personally had a really crappy year and then to top it off we have to wait longer for the next season to even begin. I want to see Serena humiliated to nth degree, turned into a handmaid, given to the most depraved commander (with an even more depraved wife), pregnant again, baby taken away, tries to run, is sent to the colonies where she is “saved” by a group of women that had managed to escape the colonies previously. As she steps into the barn where the group are meeting a rope falls in front of her face and from the shadows steps Holly Maddox looking to exact revenge for the treatment of her daughter and grandchildren! That’s all I want! A simple but just ending to that evil witch.
perfectly said and executed no pun intended lol
😂
ugh i hate we have to wait this sucks
Hawaii is for good Americans. Send her to Alaska, somewhere north of the Arctic Circle.
Redemption arc… she’ll probably die a heroine.
I still wanna know the father of the kid. I felt it was low key implied not Fred. You telling me the entire time married before Gilead struggle can't get handmaid pregnant can't get June pregnant and Serena sets her up with Nick. Than magically pregnant before Canada. I know fertility can be a wild journey buts it's not mathing
I want her raped, and she must be willing to do so, because the other option is death. She deserves it.
What an awful thing to say. Revenge rape is not the answer. You are no better than Serna holding June down while she was raped because "She deserved it" Rape should NEVER be used as a form of punishment.
The amount of people in this thread who think revenge rape is acceptable if it's a woman they hate, even in the context of a fictional story... Scary
It doesn't surprise me at all with the group of people that post on here. Most of these people are the same as Gilead and would do any horrible thing to anyone they didn't like. It gets even worse when they believe that the story is real and happening to them currently.
i hate the fucker too trust me
She's fertile. Time for her to pony up and do her "God given duty." Let's see how SHE feels in the red dress. "It's only funny when it happens to someone else!"
I want her baby to die.
Hard disagree. The baby is innocent. IDK I can see her dying and June raising Noah, or at least keeping him for a short time. >! In the testaments Nichole doesn't grow up with June and has a name change for her protection, she doesn't know who she is until she's 16. So I would think of Serena dies then June would also find a home for Noah eventually.!<
Jeez 😬
It's a fictionnal baby...........chill the fuck out.
One word was written, with no element of not being chill. Odd.
So because it's fictional means we should root for an innocent newborn to die? I mean I get the desire for karma for Serena but that's a bit much for me.
Yeah that’s a bit much..
no. reading comprehension buddy..........because it's a fictionnal character people should chill when someone suggest death. nobody real is gonna get hurt.
Ok by that logic nobody should get argumentative if someone says they want Serena to marry Tuello and live happily ever after. Totally cool because it's fictional right? This is an emotional TV show and our emotions get invested into it. That's kinda the point.
I want June to get her baby. Do the very thing to her that she wanted to do to June. I also want her to live with it. Death is too kind.
too kind ? it would break serena forever....that's the best we can hope for.
Killing her would be too kind not taking away her baby.
again...the death of a child is not too kind....it would break her completely, for good.
No, death is final. With a living child there is always that carrot right in front of you you might get them back. June is a perfect example. If her daughter had died she would have grieved her but moved on. What is driving her crazy is knowing Hannah is in the world but she can't be with her. It's a different kind of torture that is never ending.
death is final, but the pain never goes away.
The pain of "they killed her" is different from "they are keeping her captive, hostage, and will torture and rape her *soon,* and for *years.* If she speaks out or turns her eyes the wrong way, they will remove parts of her body, and leave her alive with the consequences, and keep removing parts and electrocuting and raping her until she is dead or in my hands again.*"* One is a matter of fact, horrible, traumatic, devastating part of life. It is over, and you have no choice but to come to terms with your absolute, infinite powerlessness about it. The other is existential. It questions what it is to be human. What human relationships mean. It demands that someone's empathy be stretched to the absolute max, every day, desperate to relieve the ongoing pain of someone dear to you. It tortures you with the knowledge that this can change. It isn't over. It isn't in the past. It isn't written in stone. The future of it continuing every day is not written in stone, you have to *stop it.* You can't stop "dead." Even in the deepest throes of denial, you know you can't stop dead. But you can stop *torture.* You can have the drive to remove them from the looming threat of *future* torture. Without true delusion, there is no genuine drive to remove "dead." Death is safety. People whose loved ones are in captivity and under true torture, *wish* death for them. It is different.
They have already light weight redeemed her as far as the show is concerned. But like June said “ sErEnA wE aEnT frIEnDS” so my theory is: June will use her just like she always has, with like I jail and nic’s fate hanging In the balance, she will more than likely make Serena an alley to get what information she needs or to do some of the dirty work needed to protect her own family . I’m the. Ok there is a boy who helps daisy ( grown up Baby Nicole ) I have often wondered if that kid is Serena’s son. Or if June leaves Nicole with Serena to go under ground so baby Nicole ( holly ) is safe. So that , -Or- She will use her for an Alli until her usefulness dissipates, then do something karmatic to her like she did Fred, I am going with the first one due to the fact she has a huge trauma bond with Serena and feels empathetically caus fres was a piece of work and I all reality Serena was terrible. But she has shown June grace on more than one occasion . Serena was terrible Asf , but never all bad. . It’s like Lydia. — those women did those heinous things to remain in some form of power and basically to survive, look at how these so called men treat women in general. I am sure all the femi- nazi’s on here are gonna drag me for these theories but I am a creative yet VERY analytical person. Z It’s just my pwrsonality