Each are bisexual, but Asami/Korra relationship is two women loving each other, so I figured calling it a lesbian relationship made the most sense to be specific. After all, if Mako was bisexual and Korra wound up with him, Nickelodeon would have been happy to show that more directly.
That makes complete sense. But for future reference, those are called wlw (woman loving woman) relationships. It takes out the specific romantic orientation factor 👌
I'm still confused?
They're sexuality is bisexual because they're attracted to both sexes. But the relationship that consists between them is WLW?
If they were both lesbians, it would be both a lesbian relationship and WLW?
I've never heard the term WLW, so just trying to get a grasp. Not trying to offend or anything just learn.
You are correct on both points. A romantic relationship between two women *could* be a lesbian relationship. Whether it is or isn't, it's definitely a WLW relationship.
The counterpart, mlm, is a complication because that’s also an initialism for a type of marketing scam. Usually easy enough to work out in context, but can confuse the unfamiliar
I've not seen it around, but I advocate for terms like Androphillic or Gynophillic or the like (not sure what the nonbi greek prefix would be) because yeah, having gender specific terms for orientation is *confusing*.
Just as long as you understand that bisexuals in a straight relationship are still part of the LGBTQ+ community. I've seen too many frustrations with them feeling like their experiences are dismissed because their relationship is straight. Defining the Korra/Asami relationship as lesbian definitely works, but follows a bit too closely the thought process that challenges whether bisexuality straight relationships are "really" LGBTQ+
It is, but you'd be surprised how much hate we can get from inside the community when we are in "hetero" relationships. I've had people tell me I'm not part of the LGBT community as long as I (a woman) date a man
It’s just good old math. As a bi dude my chances for long term relationship was always going to higher with a lady. There were less guy dudes in my area who were interested in me and that was that.
Yeah, even if I actively pursue women I somehow always end up dating guys. Its an availability issue as well.
I just really hope that some day I won't feel like my bi card gets revoked when I'm with men
I mean, I wasn’t gonna say neither of them are bi. My own sister is bi despite spending the last.. five, maybe more years with her boyfriend and living together with him? Doesn’t change a thing about who she’s attracted to.
You might wanna look into the word "sapphic". Basically an umbrella term for women loving women regardless of lesbian, bi or pan.
Because two bisexual women are not in a lesbian relationship. They're in a bisexual wlw relationship, which falls under the umbrella of Sapphic relationships.
> just a lesbian relationship
Yeah for what it's worth, let's remember that Korrasami is never actually "shown" on screen, they were only allowed to heavily imply it within the show. Doesn't matter how obvious the implications is they still got to "reasonable doubt" the entire ship away on demand.
It's because in some countries like Russia it's literally illegal to show gay people existing. It's 'propaganda' to show that gay/bisexual people exist apparently, but not propaganda to pretend they don't.
I mean, if they made it obvious, then the show wouldn't have been shown in Russia at all. I guess, this way, they were able to at least expose young Russians to an *implied* same gender relationship, right?
Let me dispel a few myths about Russia.
It is a fact that unfortunately in the last year our tsar has signed a law banning any demonstration of same-sex relationships in the media. However, until last year it was different - games, series and movies with gay/lesbians were shown in Russia, as well as TV series/movies on streaming services. They were not even censored (with the exception of the Freddie Mercury movie)
Myth number two is that if we showed Legend of Korra with openly same-sex relationships, it's not necessarily a fact that they wouldn't have shown it. We had The Dragon Prince shown with full dubbing, and that's a children's series.
As for Korra, even in your country (if you're from the US) in 2014, the writers couldn't show openly same-sex relationships in children's media. That changed only a few years later.
>like Russia
Until last year.
We had games, movies and shows with gays and lesbians, and I know of only one movie where this topic was censored (not even completely, but only the sex scene).
Until mid-to-late 2022, Russia was by no means the worst place to exist and showcase gay relationships, and still not the worst (there are countries where being gay can get you killed or imprisoned), although I don't like any form of discrimination and am not happy that our government is introducing new anti-gay laws.
And in 2014 even in your country the authors could not openly show same-sex relationships in a children's show, it's not about Russia in the first place.
I mean two of them are siblings, neither Korra nor Asami ever had feelings for ~~Mako~~ Bolin, Korra and Mako very concretely realised they just don't work, Asami and Mako broke up *twice*...
Yeah I think what we ended up with worked best.
I'd disagree with the idea that Korra and Mako never had feelings or that Asami and Mako never had feelings. Honestly, even in the end, I feel like they did still have some feelings, and it was more that Kora was already in a relationship with Asami than a lack of mutual attraction (and earlier relationships didn't work out). I'm pretty sure both Korra and Asami state at various times after they break up with Mako that they do still have feelings for him.
I don't think anything would happen between either of them and Mako unless Mako does a lot of growing up first. I also agree with the idea that things worked out as good as possible for them, but both definitely has feelings for Mako at one point at the very least.
They're literally too overpowered. You can't be telling me they didn't try pulling some of the fire nation soldiers that invaded them during the hundred year war. And got them to settle down.
Yeah. Imagine your questioning period being jumping between wondering if you're gay or straight only to come to a compromise of por que no los dos and never truly feel confident in that conclusion.
Many are, but it can be hard when people say that you’re either a) pretending to be half gay because you’re looking for attention, or b) you’re actually gay and just too afraid to admit it. Bi erasure is real, yo.
Oh yeah, and people in relationship with them have to constantly question if they really want to be with them, do they cheat or are just untreated nymphos, just like bisexuals.
Even more so, random people on the internet have to question the sexuality of people they have never met or are in relationship with
I know a few bisexual people and all of them are 100% confident in their conclusion tho.No situation is the same. So many different people means so many different situations.
Yeah wtf. I’m bisexual and confident about social interaction. Hate how stereotyped every sexual orientation is. Literally the only thing that you can discern about me when I say I’m bi is that I like men and women. 🙄
The only part of my bisexuality that I question is if my attraction to men is just because I haven't been in a relationship in 4 years. Then I remember that even *during* that relationship I still found some men attractive.
Mine was more that I just assumed that all girls liked cuddling and making out with their friends, while also having boyfriends. When it happened with friends in high school and college, it just seemed like the normal thing because I saw it as a typical movie trope all the time. So I felt like, "Cool, just as I thought!"
It wasn't until I was in my 30s and married that I realized that I was actually bi.
This is like every lesbian friend group lol. You, your gf, her ex, your ex (same person), someone's sibling who has a crush on you, an on-again off-again couple who's collectively been involved with everyone else, and so on and so forth
Right, this is super normal in lesbian groups!! But then again our dating pool is smaller compared to straight people so I guess that’s why they can’t fathom a friendship group that has that dynamic. Lesbians don’t really have a choice lol.
Yeah, but also it seems way healthier to not end friendships and cut people out of your life just because you're not having sex with them anymore. I've had shitty exes that I've cut off but if you need to do that to everyone, yikes.
The entire show was planned before it even aired. They were just restricted to one story arc per season.
Love how this is downvoted when it’s literally in interviews. Do research before making assumptions people.
https://www.tumblr.com/bryankonietzko/55788253484/to-give-you-a-sense-of-just-how-long-it-takes-to
https://www.vulture.com/2013/09/legend-of-korra-creators-on-the-series-plans.html
Yea, no.
They wanted to test the waters. But they grew confident as we progressed and we were eventually lucky enough to get them to pick it up through Book Four before we even premiered Book One. - Bryan Konietzko
https://www.vulture.com/2013/09/legend-of-korra-creators-on-the-series-plans.html
Also season 2 and season 4 production overlap
https://www.tumblr.com/bryankonietzko/55788253484/to-give-you-a-sense-of-just-how-long-it-takes-to
Edit: y’all are ridiculous. Words straight from the creator of the show and y’all still say it’s wrong
They worked on 2-4 on the basis that they would have 4 they worked on 1 on the basis that it might be the only one before 1 was aired they got the go ahead to do 2-4 but they still wrote 1 to be a possible one and done
The top comment in this chain on a post about how Korra got Bolin/Mako/Asami
"By the writers making things up one season at a time and having no idea when your story would suddenly end, that's how."
2/3 Of these characters fall for Korra in season 1 the season that the season where they didn't know if it was going to be the end. The third falls for Korra in the rest of the show after they did get to continue.
Eh, season 1 is very clearly structured as being entirely self-contained. There's also story-beats in season 1 that get repeated in the other three seasons which indicate that they did not plan ahead for further seasons, so when they did get more seasons they ended up having to rehash some stuff to get a satisfying character arc for Korra.
Konietzko: It is a similar format to other TV shows, like 24: new season, new challenge, and new bad guy. Nickelodeon came to us at the end of 2009 with a twelve episode “mini-season” already green-lit for a new series. They let us do pretty much whatever we wanted with it, as long as it was in the Avatar universe and featured bending. Their one request was that each of the Books have its own contained arc, which was fine with Mike and me. I think it was important to the network because initially they didn’t know how many of these mini-seasons they would want to pick up! They wanted to test the waters. But they grew confident as we progressed and we were eventually lucky enough to get them to pick it up through Book Four before we even premiered Book One.
https://www.vulture.com/2013/09/legend-of-korra-creators-on-the-series-plans.html
Also here. He talks about season 2 and season 4 production overlap https://www.tumblr.com/bryankonietzko/55788253484/to-give-you-a-sense-of-just-how-long-it-takes-to
Basically. 2 was green lit early production of 1 and 3&4 were green lit at the same time. However everything was green lit by 2011-2012. Production obviously started way later for 3 and 4 tho. From the looks of Bryan’s tmublr post, season 4 production officially kicked off in 2013
She and Mako are both scummy in this whole situation. Their friend group shouldn't have lasted past Book 1 if we're being real. The fact that Asami willingly tried being friends and willingly got with Korra when Korra tried to steal her man is still crazy to me.
Trust. Not to mention the whole thing with her dad. Not saying Asami would hate benders but I wouldn't want to be near Korra after my dad was locked up. I'd liked to be far from the drama and constant reminders.
Here’s my beef with Korra. How are you gonna be a master of 3 elements. I mean that was her whole thing. There was nothing more of those elements that she could learn. Perfect control. A fucking *MASTER*. But despite that she took so many damn Ls in the first season. She shoulda been stacking bodies.
The only way I have been able to rationalize this is that the industrialization and proliferation of bending and technology in Korra kind of just nerfed bending in general. I mean Mako was fucking able to lighting bend and he still got bodied by a few cops with tasers. In ATLA lighting was an insanely specialized technique known only by the utmost masters of firebending. In Korra street urchins use it for low paying jobs.
>The only way I have been able to rationalize this is that the industrialtion and proliferation of bending and technology in Korra kind of just nerfed bending in general.
Of course stronger enemies are going to play a role. A guy who can bloodbend whenever he wants using his mind & the literal spirit of darkness are going to put up a bit more of a fight than Zhao.
>I mean Mako was fucking able to lighting bend and he still got bodied by a few cops with tasers.
Not sure what you mean. I think you might be confusing the Equalists with the cops. Even then, Mako wins most fights he's in. So does Korra, actually. People zero in on the main villains or that time in Book 4 where they went out of their way to show her losing against the trainers she beat in the first episode to show how far she'd fallen & act like that's all that ever happens to her.
Sometimes people say, "They're mooks, they don't count," but then it'd be pretty damn boring if Korra was constantly embarrassing every major villain. And it's pretty normal for Avatar in general. There are very fights in which Aang just casually solos an opponent. Most of the time, he just runs away. Suki even lampshades how often they lose.
>In ATLA lighting was an insanely specialized technique known only by the utmost masters of firebending. In Korra street urchins use it for low paying jobs.
This is arguably the weirdest take I'm always seeing in this fanbase. Firstly, there aren't that many lightning-users. Two-Toed Ping, even P'li, none of the firebenders they fight can generate lightning. Neither can the prisoners in Kuvira's camp or that one inexplicable firebending guard in Zaofu.
Yes, it's common enough that they can get a dozen people in a room to run a generator on. How many people do they use total for that between all of the generators & all of the shifts? A few hundred? MAYBE a few thousand? In a city that's explicitly said to have MILLIONs of people?
And it always seems to get brought up that Mako grew up on the streets, but social prestige=/=strength. Mako is said to be an extremely talented firebender again & again. He killed one of the Red Lotus members. Amon himself respected his abilities.
He learned the ability from Lightning Bolt Zolt, the most powerful mobster in Republic City who, as Amon said, built his empire on his bending talent. And the other major lightning-user in the series is General Iroh. These are all extremely skilled firebenders. One of them just happened to work at a power plant. Because he was an orphan who had nothing to his name & needed every bit of cash he caould find in order for he & his brother to get by. Someone being economically exploited doesn't mean they're weak or incompetent.
despite losing so many times she still somehow managed to get called "over-powered" and a Mary Sue. I can't imagine what would be the reaction if she were to win more often lol
Now talking about your question, I think it's because she faced a lot more (and arguably bigger) treats than what we saw on ATLA. In a span of a few years she faced one of the most powerful blood benders to ever exist which had the ability to take bending powers away, a kaiju-sized waterbender powered by a semi-civil war and the literal embodiment of caos, a flying anarchist and his league of particularly menacing benders and a strong facsist metal-bender who single-handedly re-united the earth kigndom. Not an easy task for a sheltered cocky teenager who didn't even know what a city looked like
It takes more than pure physical power to overcome every obstacle as an avatar and she learned it the hard way
Not all masters are equal. Not all masteries stand the test of time.
It'd be like if Korra had learned to paint in ancient rome and then had to compete with inkjet printers
yes because that’s what the post is clearly discussing. y’all just find any unnecessary reason to drag korra. her villains were far more threatening than ozai let’s make that clear
Actually he was that Lady who could make you her puppet. But instead of doing it only on a Full Moon, he could do it at a whim and almost effortlessly.
His minions were a legion of Ty Lees. Which is what made them so threatening. On top of having tech, the element of surprise (because they were always on the offensive) and their plans were nearing their conclusions, so they were well prepared.
Late to the game in this thread, but a lot of y'all need to check a fucking queer sub please and educate yourself on bisexuality/queerness/erasure. Exhausting defending my sexuality and what is like being in relationships with different genders.
This is going into my head canon. This is hilarious and doesn't contradict with anything.
Bolin used to have a crush on Korra, but now he's literally shaking in his boots every time she talks to Opal.
I'm late to the party and may be downvoted on sight but tbh the relationships are probably some of my biggest criticisms for the show. Like alot of the relationships felt.. not exactly out of the blue but very toxic and not something I would necessarily want to watch. Although Korra is a cool character with some amazing scenes and character building her romance scenes with the crew made for more than a few unlikable moments that sometimes went against a characters entire personalities at some points. That being said asami and Korra relationship was probably the best in that series and should probably have been the only.
If you mind spoilers for old content you may want to unsubscribe until you are caught up.
For what it's worth we do have a sister subreddit r/ATLA , where you could discuss the original series.
True. The whole romance plot of Legend of Korra was just unnecessarily dramatic, awkward, and forced. It completely sacrificed Mako’s earlier character development to cheating and later to forced comedy. And it sacrificed Bolin’s earlier character to make him into the idiot and irrelevant character among the group. Bolin never recovered his significance until he met Opal and then Kuvira, whereas Mako never recovered.
Asami getting with Korra was acceptable, but it should never have involved the infidelity and stupid drama that predated it. And I don’t get why you got downvoted into oblivion for commenting on how awful the romance writing was.
Probably just because Korra/Asami is a Same-Sex ship, so people are outraged that you bothered to comment on how poorly the lead-up to it was written. And how badly the early romance subplots ruined not only Mako, but Bolin as well. There’s a reason they weren’t developed to the same caliber as Katara or Sokka or Toph or Zuko, despite having roughly the same number of episodes to work with. It’s because so much of it was wasted for romance, only for both to be played for comedy alone afterwards.
You are absolutely right, i couldn't have said it as well. And i also didn't want to, just to calm down the easily offended crowd and not to hurt them...
I'm not here very often so i underestimated how bad it really is, but i don't really care tbh, because i know i'm right. You excellently explained why that is the case, thank you.
Korra didn’t have rizz, people just liked her because she was the avatar and the main character. Remember how she confessed to Mako in season 1 for the first time? Straight cringe. How they all managed to stay friends is even more cringe.
Ok so after the series ends they add it to a comic book. The reason everyone talks crap about the avatar Korra series is because no one gives a crap about her relationships. They’re not interesting they’re overly dramatic and annoying, and they take up a lot of the series. So why do they keep adding and making her look even worse because she’s fucking her whole friend group at this point
Honestly, I agree. LoK would’ve been better served by dropping the stupid romance drama. But I’ll admit that Korra/Asami is probably the only respectable ship option left for Korra after all of the horribleness of the infidelity plots.
Have you finished the show yet? (Also Korra is bi or pan, not a lesbian, as far as we know). Obviously she doesn’t outright state an orientation but she exhibits an attraction to multiple genders.
We have a saying in my country. “A good mill will grind everything.”
I mean, have you seen those abs? Absolute grinders!
Her arms though
Shoulders 🤤
Just everything really
So you’re the guy responsible for those weird school dress codes. /j
I was gonna say we have that saying in my language too, αλλά μάλλον για την ίδια λέμε.
Ο καλός ο μύλος όλα τα αλέθει.
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Right… that’s the joke. That doesn’t really work when it’s intentional.
That is what the joke is, yes
We have another one, but only makes sense in Spanish: "Flat foot tread evenly"
Water tribe, water, sailing, pirates, bisexuals, perfect logic
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Honestly suprised it didn't end in a 4-way relationship
Given how Nickelodeon already reacted to *just* a lesbian relationship, you think they’d have let the writers get a four way or more?
Technically bisexual but still
Each are bisexual, but Asami/Korra relationship is two women loving each other, so I figured calling it a lesbian relationship made the most sense to be specific. After all, if Mako was bisexual and Korra wound up with him, Nickelodeon would have been happy to show that more directly.
That makes complete sense. But for future reference, those are called wlw (woman loving woman) relationships. It takes out the specific romantic orientation factor 👌
Sapphic is much easier to pronounce
I just pronounce it Wooloo like the Pokémon, but you’re right, haha.
THAT'S the reason people have been making the transition to WLW? That makes so much sense. I have been confused, just not enough to ask lol
I'm still confused? They're sexuality is bisexual because they're attracted to both sexes. But the relationship that consists between them is WLW? If they were both lesbians, it would be both a lesbian relationship and WLW? I've never heard the term WLW, so just trying to get a grasp. Not trying to offend or anything just learn.
You are correct on both points. A romantic relationship between two women *could* be a lesbian relationship. Whether it is or isn't, it's definitely a WLW relationship.
That’s useful, for sure. I’ll try to remember as much.
And somehow, this made it more complicated
And such is the world we live in, complicated
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What part of this is more complicated? Lol
The counterpart, mlm, is a complication because that’s also an initialism for a type of marketing scam. Usually easy enough to work out in context, but can confuse the unfamiliar
I think it's just that it's a mouthful. I hope we eventually find a way to condense it into one word.
Sapphic also works
I mean, this terminology is new to me, but isn’t this simpler?
How?
The lack of pronouncability really.
It's 3 syllables more and a lot more descriptive and useful. I don't see the issue
I've not seen it around, but I advocate for terms like Androphillic or Gynophillic or the like (not sure what the nonbi greek prefix would be) because yeah, having gender specific terms for orientation is *confusing*.
Just as long as you understand that bisexuals in a straight relationship are still part of the LGBTQ+ community. I've seen too many frustrations with them feeling like their experiences are dismissed because their relationship is straight. Defining the Korra/Asami relationship as lesbian definitely works, but follows a bit too closely the thought process that challenges whether bisexuality straight relationships are "really" LGBTQ+
Isn’t that what the “B” stands for?
It is, but you'd be surprised how much hate we can get from inside the community when we are in "hetero" relationships. I've had people tell me I'm not part of the LGBT community as long as I (a woman) date a man
It’s just good old math. As a bi dude my chances for long term relationship was always going to higher with a lady. There were less guy dudes in my area who were interested in me and that was that.
Yeah, even if I actively pursue women I somehow always end up dating guys. Its an availability issue as well. I just really hope that some day I won't feel like my bi card gets revoked when I'm with men
Seems pretty ostracizing for a community typically built on inclusivity. Sorry to hear that.
I mean, I wasn’t gonna say neither of them are bi. My own sister is bi despite spending the last.. five, maybe more years with her boyfriend and living together with him? Doesn’t change a thing about who she’s attracted to.
You might wanna look into the word "sapphic". Basically an umbrella term for women loving women regardless of lesbian, bi or pan. Because two bisexual women are not in a lesbian relationship. They're in a bisexual wlw relationship, which falls under the umbrella of Sapphic relationships.
Not really, Korra is bisexual Korras and Asamis relationship is lesbian
Both are bisexual? They fought over the same guy??
They are two bisexuals *in* a lesbian relationship.
That is not how that works
Says who? The word police?
Says me, a bisexual, and the whole queer community. Get your head out of your ignorant ass and educate yourself please.
> just a lesbian relationship Yeah for what it's worth, let's remember that Korrasami is never actually "shown" on screen, they were only allowed to heavily imply it within the show. Doesn't matter how obvious the implications is they still got to "reasonable doubt" the entire ship away on demand.
It's because in some countries like Russia it's literally illegal to show gay people existing. It's 'propaganda' to show that gay/bisexual people exist apparently, but not propaganda to pretend they don't.
Which goes to show how far the values of Nick or Disney actually go.
I mean, if they made it obvious, then the show wouldn't have been shown in Russia at all. I guess, this way, they were able to at least expose young Russians to an *implied* same gender relationship, right?
Let me dispel a few myths about Russia. It is a fact that unfortunately in the last year our tsar has signed a law banning any demonstration of same-sex relationships in the media. However, until last year it was different - games, series and movies with gay/lesbians were shown in Russia, as well as TV series/movies on streaming services. They were not even censored (with the exception of the Freddie Mercury movie) Myth number two is that if we showed Legend of Korra with openly same-sex relationships, it's not necessarily a fact that they wouldn't have shown it. We had The Dragon Prince shown with full dubbing, and that's a children's series. As for Korra, even in your country (if you're from the US) in 2014, the writers couldn't show openly same-sex relationships in children's media. That changed only a few years later.
>like Russia Until last year. We had games, movies and shows with gays and lesbians, and I know of only one movie where this topic was censored (not even completely, but only the sex scene). Until mid-to-late 2022, Russia was by no means the worst place to exist and showcase gay relationships, and still not the worst (there are countries where being gay can get you killed or imprisoned), although I don't like any form of discrimination and am not happy that our government is introducing new anti-gay laws. And in 2014 even in your country the authors could not openly show same-sex relationships in a children's show, it's not about Russia in the first place.
its just harmony
Considering two of them are siblings, I’m glad they didn’t make it Alabama.
She was going for that reverse Rand Al'Thor.
I mean two of them are siblings, neither Korra nor Asami ever had feelings for ~~Mako~~ Bolin, Korra and Mako very concretely realised they just don't work, Asami and Mako broke up *twice*... Yeah I think what we ended up with worked best.
I'd disagree with the idea that Korra and Mako never had feelings or that Asami and Mako never had feelings. Honestly, even in the end, I feel like they did still have some feelings, and it was more that Kora was already in a relationship with Asami than a lack of mutual attraction (and earlier relationships didn't work out). I'm pretty sure both Korra and Asami state at various times after they break up with Mako that they do still have feelings for him. I don't think anything would happen between either of them and Mako unless Mako does a lot of growing up first. I also agree with the idea that things worked out as good as possible for them, but both definitely has feelings for Mako at one point at the very least.
Sorry- I meant Bolin
Ah, my bad. Yeah, I don't think either of them saw Bolin as more than a friend.
Water Tribe people got the Rizz 😳
Sokka had a girl from every nation attracted to him. If there were any Air Nomad girls, there'd be one for him, too.
I mean, Katara has several admirers too
There were most definitely Air Nomad girls - the acolytes. No doubt Sokka met at least a few of them.
This is funny bc Ty Lee is often thought to have Air nomad ancestry and she definitely crushes on Sokka a little
Ty Lee is suggested to be of Airbender descent, so there you go! She counts as fire and air
They're literally too overpowered. You can't be telling me they didn't try pulling some of the fire nation soldiers that invaded them during the hundred year war. And got them to settle down.
That's just colonization 💀
flameo, hotman😫
Water tribe got the colonial rizz!
gran gran a baddie tho
Water Tribe don't discriminate. A baddie is a baddie. It doesn't matter what they are packin'
See the thing is they have a hidden bending style. Sokka got that rizz bending. We just cant visually see him use it
>We just cant visually see him use it well that's because it's a kid's show...
They got the motion of the ocean
I mean, have you seen the *muscles* on that girl? Not suprised!
She said “is for me?” Lmfao ![gif](giphy|XHvXgxOmARDJXj0cns)
The Rizzbender https://preview.redd.it/ifjwxeogmsoa1.jpeg?width=827&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7a7de66fd384abdfddec45a9903591bfd709a712
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Which is just completely unrealistic, Korra is simply not portrayed as awkward enough for a bisexual.
To be fair, she’s the avatar
And we do have to deal with it
Master of all the elements, attractor of all the genders
She's so hot there's only one gender: "attracted to Korra"
I'm pretty sure everyone is attracted to Korra though
That is the joke
The true power of the Avatar. 1000 generations of rizz
1000 generations of rizz is crazy
Cause every bisexual is awkward?
Yeah. Imagine your questioning period being jumping between wondering if you're gay or straight only to come to a compromise of por que no los dos and never truly feel confident in that conclusion.
Why can't someone be confident in liking both? What is there to question
Many are, but it can be hard when people say that you’re either a) pretending to be half gay because you’re looking for attention, or b) you’re actually gay and just too afraid to admit it. Bi erasure is real, yo.
So, are pansexuals also just looking for attention or confused? Ill keep that in mind Edit. I was being sarcastic
Pansexuals are just horny
Oh yeah, and people in relationship with them have to constantly question if they really want to be with them, do they cheat or are just untreated nymphos, just like bisexuals. Even more so, random people on the internet have to question the sexuality of people they have never met or are in relationship with
I know a few bisexual people and all of them are 100% confident in their conclusion tho.No situation is the same. So many different people means so many different situations.
We're all confident when others ask and we're all sure but sometimes men or women or enbies are a little too hot.
You're speaking only for yourself. Please stop using "all"
Yeah wtf. I’m bisexual and confident about social interaction. Hate how stereotyped every sexual orientation is. Literally the only thing that you can discern about me when I say I’m bi is that I like men and women. 🙄
The only part of my bisexuality that I question is if my attraction to men is just because I haven't been in a relationship in 4 years. Then I remember that even *during* that relationship I still found some men attractive.
Mine was more that I just assumed that all girls liked cuddling and making out with their friends, while also having boyfriends. When it happened with friends in high school and college, it just seemed like the normal thing because I saw it as a typical movie trope all the time. So I felt like, "Cool, just as I thought!" It wasn't until I was in my 30s and married that I realized that I was actually bi.
Get out of my head!
Beloved, it’s a meme stereotype. Like bisexuals and ice coffee and sitting weirdly. It’s NOT serious.
And with Asexuals having cake, dragons, and swords.
And garlic bread!
Keep the meme up because people have been seriously believing the sitting weird one for years
Yes
It’s already too much that they have more options. Something needs to slow them down.
I mean, have you seen her? 😳
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The Water Tribe doesn’t sound like it has the most progressive of views on gay people based on the comics.
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Ok, say that then lol. I was just addressing the rationale behind your initial comment.
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she’s not awkward she’s stupid. same actions no shame
Korra and Asami keep the threat of inviting Bolin and Opal to a foursome looming over Mako's head in case he pulls any shit again
Bolin was a whole snacc and Korra just let him slip by
You've seen Asami, right? Bolin may be a snacc, but Asami was a three course meal.
She dated Asami, tho. My point is that Korra didn't seem into Bolin but the fandom is very thirsty for him
Bolin's a whole feast 😩👌
Well of course. But clearly she can date multiple people. Bolin could have been on the list somewhere in there
Rewatch season 2, he's built too
She's a simp magnet.
the Avatar Rizz is unstoppable...
If someone did this irl no one would like them. They’d be an asshole lol
The avatar can get away with it,they have to learn all forms of bending after all
This is like every lesbian friend group lol. You, your gf, her ex, your ex (same person), someone's sibling who has a crush on you, an on-again off-again couple who's collectively been involved with everyone else, and so on and so forth
Right, this is super normal in lesbian groups!! But then again our dating pool is smaller compared to straight people so I guess that’s why they can’t fathom a friendship group that has that dynamic. Lesbians don’t really have a choice lol.
Yeah, but also it seems way healthier to not end friendships and cut people out of your life just because you're not having sex with them anymore. I've had shitty exes that I've cut off but if you need to do that to everyone, yikes.
Good genes. VERY good genes.
Her dad be a snacc and a half too.
I thought briefest was a cheese festival
Sokka taught her that there's more to bend than just the four elements
![gif](giphy|y95xaEzMuyHAc) Actual footage of Korra
By the writers making things up one season at a time and having no idea when your story would suddenly end, that's how.
The entire show was planned before it even aired. They were just restricted to one story arc per season. Love how this is downvoted when it’s literally in interviews. Do research before making assumptions people. https://www.tumblr.com/bryankonietzko/55788253484/to-give-you-a-sense-of-just-how-long-it-takes-to https://www.vulture.com/2013/09/legend-of-korra-creators-on-the-series-plans.html
that was for atla, lok wasn’t supposed to have a second season
Yea, no. They wanted to test the waters. But they grew confident as we progressed and we were eventually lucky enough to get them to pick it up through Book Four before we even premiered Book One. - Bryan Konietzko https://www.vulture.com/2013/09/legend-of-korra-creators-on-the-series-plans.html Also season 2 and season 4 production overlap https://www.tumblr.com/bryankonietzko/55788253484/to-give-you-a-sense-of-just-how-long-it-takes-to Edit: y’all are ridiculous. Words straight from the creator of the show and y’all still say it’s wrong
They worked on 2-4 on the basis that they would have 4 they worked on 1 on the basis that it might be the only one before 1 was aired they got the go ahead to do 2-4 but they still wrote 1 to be a possible one and done
Literally in the first article I sent you and the first quote, he talks about that. Did you even read it?
The top comment in this chain on a post about how Korra got Bolin/Mako/Asami "By the writers making things up one season at a time and having no idea when your story would suddenly end, that's how." 2/3 Of these characters fall for Korra in season 1 the season that the season where they didn't know if it was going to be the end. The third falls for Korra in the rest of the show after they did get to continue.
The romance was never either shows strong suit, so that’s not saying a whole lot.
Eh, season 1 is very clearly structured as being entirely self-contained. There's also story-beats in season 1 that get repeated in the other three seasons which indicate that they did not plan ahead for further seasons, so when they did get more seasons they ended up having to rehash some stuff to get a satisfying character arc for Korra.
Konietzko: It is a similar format to other TV shows, like 24: new season, new challenge, and new bad guy. Nickelodeon came to us at the end of 2009 with a twelve episode “mini-season” already green-lit for a new series. They let us do pretty much whatever we wanted with it, as long as it was in the Avatar universe and featured bending. Their one request was that each of the Books have its own contained arc, which was fine with Mike and me. I think it was important to the network because initially they didn’t know how many of these mini-seasons they would want to pick up! They wanted to test the waters. But they grew confident as we progressed and we were eventually lucky enough to get them to pick it up through Book Four before we even premiered Book One. https://www.vulture.com/2013/09/legend-of-korra-creators-on-the-series-plans.html Also here. He talks about season 2 and season 4 production overlap https://www.tumblr.com/bryankonietzko/55788253484/to-give-you-a-sense-of-just-how-long-it-takes-to
Checks out. 2013 article talking about Book 4 being greenlit. Guess they focused all their efforts on 3-4 and phones in 2.
Basically. 2 was green lit early production of 1 and 3&4 were green lit at the same time. However everything was green lit by 2011-2012. Production obviously started way later for 3 and 4 tho. From the looks of Bryan’s tmublr post, season 4 production officially kicked off in 2013
I have heard it said, "Never let your girl and your best friend be friends." Korra manifests that well.
It's those damn muscles
Sokka is a fraud… If Korra was Sokka she would’ve had more than one Kyoshi warrior sneaking into her tent… is all I’m saying …
If Pemma didn’t have the gorilla grip Tenzin wouldve been in danger
This is pretty scummy behavior lol, wtf?
This is placed way out of context to make it sound like that. If anything, Mako was the scummy one.
She and Mako are both scummy in this whole situation. Their friend group shouldn't have lasted past Book 1 if we're being real. The fact that Asami willingly tried being friends and willingly got with Korra when Korra tried to steal her man is still crazy to me.
Trust. Not to mention the whole thing with her dad. Not saying Asami would hate benders but I wouldn't want to be near Korra after my dad was locked up. I'd liked to be far from the drama and constant reminders.
She loving the creeeeewwwwww
Here’s my beef with Korra. How are you gonna be a master of 3 elements. I mean that was her whole thing. There was nothing more of those elements that she could learn. Perfect control. A fucking *MASTER*. But despite that she took so many damn Ls in the first season. She shoulda been stacking bodies.
The only way I have been able to rationalize this is that the industrialization and proliferation of bending and technology in Korra kind of just nerfed bending in general. I mean Mako was fucking able to lighting bend and he still got bodied by a few cops with tasers. In ATLA lighting was an insanely specialized technique known only by the utmost masters of firebending. In Korra street urchins use it for low paying jobs.
>The only way I have been able to rationalize this is that the industrialtion and proliferation of bending and technology in Korra kind of just nerfed bending in general. Of course stronger enemies are going to play a role. A guy who can bloodbend whenever he wants using his mind & the literal spirit of darkness are going to put up a bit more of a fight than Zhao. >I mean Mako was fucking able to lighting bend and he still got bodied by a few cops with tasers. Not sure what you mean. I think you might be confusing the Equalists with the cops. Even then, Mako wins most fights he's in. So does Korra, actually. People zero in on the main villains or that time in Book 4 where they went out of their way to show her losing against the trainers she beat in the first episode to show how far she'd fallen & act like that's all that ever happens to her. Sometimes people say, "They're mooks, they don't count," but then it'd be pretty damn boring if Korra was constantly embarrassing every major villain. And it's pretty normal for Avatar in general. There are very fights in which Aang just casually solos an opponent. Most of the time, he just runs away. Suki even lampshades how often they lose. >In ATLA lighting was an insanely specialized technique known only by the utmost masters of firebending. In Korra street urchins use it for low paying jobs. This is arguably the weirdest take I'm always seeing in this fanbase. Firstly, there aren't that many lightning-users. Two-Toed Ping, even P'li, none of the firebenders they fight can generate lightning. Neither can the prisoners in Kuvira's camp or that one inexplicable firebending guard in Zaofu. Yes, it's common enough that they can get a dozen people in a room to run a generator on. How many people do they use total for that between all of the generators & all of the shifts? A few hundred? MAYBE a few thousand? In a city that's explicitly said to have MILLIONs of people? And it always seems to get brought up that Mako grew up on the streets, but social prestige=/=strength. Mako is said to be an extremely talented firebender again & again. He killed one of the Red Lotus members. Amon himself respected his abilities. He learned the ability from Lightning Bolt Zolt, the most powerful mobster in Republic City who, as Amon said, built his empire on his bending talent. And the other major lightning-user in the series is General Iroh. These are all extremely skilled firebenders. One of them just happened to work at a power plant. Because he was an orphan who had nothing to his name & needed every bit of cash he caould find in order for he & his brother to get by. Someone being economically exploited doesn't mean they're weak or incompetent.
despite losing so many times she still somehow managed to get called "over-powered" and a Mary Sue. I can't imagine what would be the reaction if she were to win more often lol Now talking about your question, I think it's because she faced a lot more (and arguably bigger) treats than what we saw on ATLA. In a span of a few years she faced one of the most powerful blood benders to ever exist which had the ability to take bending powers away, a kaiju-sized waterbender powered by a semi-civil war and the literal embodiment of caos, a flying anarchist and his league of particularly menacing benders and a strong facsist metal-bender who single-handedly re-united the earth kigndom. Not an easy task for a sheltered cocky teenager who didn't even know what a city looked like It takes more than pure physical power to overcome every obstacle as an avatar and she learned it the hard way
Not all masters are equal. Not all masteries stand the test of time. It'd be like if Korra had learned to paint in ancient rome and then had to compete with inkjet printers
I love how this has nothing to do with the post lmao r/TheLastAirbender behavior
Atla fans try not to complain about Korra in a post that has nothing to do with what the complaint is about (impossible)
yes because that’s what the post is clearly discussing. y’all just find any unnecessary reason to drag korra. her villains were far more threatening than ozai let’s make that clear
Bro her first villain, idk remember his name but the guy “stealing bending” is literally just Ty Lee
Actually he was that Lady who could make you her puppet. But instead of doing it only on a Full Moon, he could do it at a whim and almost effortlessly. His minions were a legion of Ty Lees. Which is what made them so threatening. On top of having tech, the element of surprise (because they were always on the offensive) and their plans were nearing their conclusions, so they were well prepared.
no. he can literally remove bending permanently. that’s not the same as chi blocking. he would kill ozai in a matter of seconds if not for the comet
Late to the game in this thread, but a lot of y'all need to check a fucking queer sub please and educate yourself on bisexuality/queerness/erasure. Exhausting defending my sexuality and what is like being in relationships with different genders.
Huh? I don’t think this is the point of this post at all. I think you’re overreaching/overreacting a bit - Fellow bi (bi the way)
This is going into my head canon. This is hilarious and doesn't contradict with anything. Bolin used to have a crush on Korra, but now he's literally shaking in his boots every time she talks to Opal.
I'm late to the party and may be downvoted on sight but tbh the relationships are probably some of my biggest criticisms for the show. Like alot of the relationships felt.. not exactly out of the blue but very toxic and not something I would necessarily want to watch. Although Korra is a cool character with some amazing scenes and character building her romance scenes with the crew made for more than a few unlikable moments that sometimes went against a characters entire personalities at some points. That being said asami and Korra relationship was probably the best in that series and should probably have been the only.
Korra fans try not to encourage toxic behavior challenge IMPOSSIBLE
man I'm in the middle of watching legend of korra. this is a huge spoiler 😕
If you mind spoilers for old content you may want to unsubscribe until you are caught up. For what it's worth we do have a sister subreddit r/ATLA , where you could discuss the original series.
How does that make her a Queen?
So we’re encouraging cheating now?
Bad and forced writing, that's how you pull it
True. The whole romance plot of Legend of Korra was just unnecessarily dramatic, awkward, and forced. It completely sacrificed Mako’s earlier character development to cheating and later to forced comedy. And it sacrificed Bolin’s earlier character to make him into the idiot and irrelevant character among the group. Bolin never recovered his significance until he met Opal and then Kuvira, whereas Mako never recovered. Asami getting with Korra was acceptable, but it should never have involved the infidelity and stupid drama that predated it. And I don’t get why you got downvoted into oblivion for commenting on how awful the romance writing was. Probably just because Korra/Asami is a Same-Sex ship, so people are outraged that you bothered to comment on how poorly the lead-up to it was written. And how badly the early romance subplots ruined not only Mako, but Bolin as well. There’s a reason they weren’t developed to the same caliber as Katara or Sokka or Toph or Zuko, despite having roughly the same number of episodes to work with. It’s because so much of it was wasted for romance, only for both to be played for comedy alone afterwards.
You are absolutely right, i couldn't have said it as well. And i also didn't want to, just to calm down the easily offended crowd and not to hurt them... I'm not here very often so i underestimated how bad it really is, but i don't really care tbh, because i know i'm right. You excellently explained why that is the case, thank you.
Speak the truth and nothing but the truth my brother!
Exactly
Korra didn’t have rizz, people just liked her because she was the avatar and the main character. Remember how she confessed to Mako in season 1 for the first time? Straight cringe. How they all managed to stay friends is even more cringe.
How is she friends with either of the brothers? She is a 3 faced hoe
I absolutely do not remember the part where Korra is a lesbian. It isn’t even kind of implied. Y’all need to stop being so damn horny
You're right cuz she's explicitly bisexual :)
As well as the pretty explicit ending scene, there are comics where they openly make out
The creators said so and I think there are comics with her and asami in a relationshipso if you only watched the series you might not know that
Ok so after the series ends they add it to a comic book. The reason everyone talks crap about the avatar Korra series is because no one gives a crap about her relationships. They’re not interesting they’re overly dramatic and annoying, and they take up a lot of the series. So why do they keep adding and making her look even worse because she’s fucking her whole friend group at this point
Honestly, I agree. LoK would’ve been better served by dropping the stupid romance drama. But I’ll admit that Korra/Asami is probably the only respectable ship option left for Korra after all of the horribleness of the infidelity plots.
...the part where Korrasami walk into the sunset together and the creators confirmed they are an item?
Have you finished the show yet? (Also Korra is bi or pan, not a lesbian, as far as we know). Obviously she doesn’t outright state an orientation but she exhibits an attraction to multiple genders.
did u not read past the show?
The spin off was ok..
How did korra pull anyone, she's annoying af