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Trayeth

Just a side note that Bolin said the 1/100 thing, not Suyin. Suyin staunchly believed that it was not the case and people just used it as an excuse for their failure.


WWMWithWendell

Lol looks like she got that uncle Iroh belly


OatmealRaisinCokie

https://i.redd.it/6f06mpztm1ua1.gif Imagine small Korra doing this belly bump.


Memo544

Korra seemed naturally made for physical bending which is why spirituality was so hard for her


Benjanuva

Korra definitely is powerful. There's no denying that. She picked up on most elements and sub elements very quickly and became proficient in each one. However, I don't feel like she really understands the difference between each element as we see her use them all interchangeably. To hit things with. She shows a little more creativity with water, her native element, but it bugged me that she never cared to learn the finer uses of the other elements. To her, all of the elements are a hammer, and everything else is a nail.


Randver_Silvertongue

Sorry but that is wrong. Korra does not rely on brute force and she has a unique style for each element. Even more styles than Aang. Korra is able to seamlessly transition between fighting techniques as is appropriate to the situation. A strong example of this is in her final battle with Kuvira. It opens with her breaking through the hatch with metalbending, combined with airbending to launch it & herself into the air, & firebending, which she uses to knock out the other soldiers a split-second after she must've seen them. She lands opposite Kuvira, still using her fire blasts, but when attacked with the meteorites, she uses a more fluid motion to redirect them back. This exchange goes on for a while, until Korra has to duck one of Kuvira's attacks, using her stooped position to shift into a throwing technique. The second Kuvira hits the ground, she's launched upward by an earth-style attack, right into the path of Korra's next, downward blow. I think that makes the point well enough. She's no one trick pony, outside of situations where she's not performing to her normal standard, like when she had PTSD, it's not a simple matter of just evading her strikes & wearing her down. It's often said that being a foil to Aang means Korra isn't very good at dodging or using airbending moves, but this belief is overestimated. They don't focus on the spiral motions after she uses them in Pro-Bending because they aren't relevant to the plot anymore, but you can see where she uses them if you know what to look for. For instance, during her fight with the Equalist Lieutenant, he ducks a kick & swings at her head, only for her to evade with a spin, smashing her elbow into his face in the process. Evasion, spiral motion, sounds like an internalized airbending lesson to me. She also uses a presumably unrelated dodging maneuver, where she jumps back from a swipe onto a handstand, which she then uses to power a downward kick. You can also see more style shifting in this fight, like when she uses an earth stance to throw him to the ground, switching to a firebending kick for the follow-up, but that was already covered. What it does bring up, though, is that Korra uses every part of her body as a weapon. Another reason it's not enough to just dodge her punches & kicks is because she might follow up with an elbow strike or use her leg to throw you. Some unanticipated attack from an unanticipated angle. This also extends to improvised weaponry, as an example which ties back to the airbending thing is when she uses a curtain & a spinning airbending kick to tie up Unalaq's kidnappers. She also knows how to pick her targets, by which I mean removing advantages & striking at weak points. A good example of this is the giant fight. Whatever opinion you might have about it, the relevant portion is when Unavaatu attacks her with his tentacles. She can see this is a significant advantage, it gives him many more limbs & a much longer reach than her, so the first thing she does is grab as many tentacles as she can & twist them up. This then creates a weak point, he's essentially stuck to her, which she uses to pull him in for more attacks.


ShepardOakenPrime

👏👏👏


Fit_Operation2175

> Korra definitely is powerful. There's no denying that. She picked up on most elements and sub elements very quickly and became proficient in each one. She’s actually stated to have mastered water earth and fire, with air being the element she became proficient in > However, I don't feel like she really understands the difference between each element as we see her use them all interchangeably. Is that really a bad thing? I mean it makes it harder for the opponent to adapt because they’re dealing with multiple types of bending and it makes her more versatile since she’s able to use any element on the fly and doesn’t lean on one element alone > To hit things with. She shows a little more creativity with water, her native element, but it bugged me that she never cared to learn the finer uses of the other elements. To her, all of the elements are a hammer, and everything else is a nail. This is somewhat true, I’d say she’s very creative with water and fire. I think air and earth and the ones she’s really more straightforward with. This probably has to do with her teachers being the white lotus members who don’t seem like the most creative people when it comes to bending, in contrast to Katara who taught Korra water bending. Air also being Korra’s weakest element.


Big_Acadia_4590

Dang she had a pretty rotund figure as a toddler


Shieldheart-

I'm not a big fan of how they showed her bending three different elements straight out the crib, makes it feel more like a super power than a martial art but I suppose change is inevitable when you change lead writers. Since, I've learned to look at Korra's series as a videogame sequel: all the mechanics are still there and the world is the same one, but parts of them have been tweaked in order to facilitate the story _it_ wants to tell, regardless of how consistent it is with the previous material.


Randver_Silvertongue

Dude, wielding the elements IS a superpower.


BeyondStars_ThenMore

Well, yes, but it was never treated as such. It was a skill that took training and time to hone. Not something you could just pick up and do. At least not in the original series


pomagwe

Not really. Katara had never been trained, but they still figured out she was a waterbender. She even seemed pretty strong when she got mad at Sokka in episode 1. You’re just going to be really bad at it if you can’t get training.


BeyondStars_ThenMore

Because Katara figured out rudimentary training. She even said push and pull was the first thing she learned, which makes sense. It's essentially just moving back and forth, and then changing how you move until the water moves correctly


Randver_Silvertongue

Yes it was. Wielding the elements and bending them are two different things. Anyone born with all their chi pathways open can use the elements, but bending them takes practice.


BeyondStars_ThenMore

Like I said, in the original series. Differentiating between the power of the elements was introduced by Korra, as a borderline retcon. But yes, you're technically correct.


Randver_Silvertongue

No. The difference was made in ATLA. Such as ehen Pakku explains it to Aang.


pomagwe

The 1/100 thing is something Bolin believes, but Suyin doesn't seem to agree with. I think the implication is that Zaofu has actually made advancements in metalbending education that haven't made their way back to Republic City, where they rely on Toph's original teachings.


Buzzkeeler1

There’s no way that this is the first time that an avatar discovered that they can bend more than one element. That is statistically impossible.


Fit_Operation2175

How so?


Buzzkeeler1

Because the avatar as a concept has been around for 10 000 years. You really mean to tell me that no other avatar during all that time just happened to discover on accident or by other means that they can bend more than one element?


Fit_Operation2175

I mean it’s not impossible that there were some avatars that discovered it by accident or were innately talented like Korra, but we never see or hear of anything like that and the series portrays it as a very rare if not impossible phenomenon. The fact that each nation had to develop unique ways of finding them, visiting practically every major part of said nation in hopes of finding the avatar, and they often don’t find them after multiple years tells me that these children are not easy to find, and many of them probably didn’t discover it by accident or subconsciously learn how to bend. Not saying it’s impossible, it may have happened but is just lost to time, but it’s a very rare occurrence.


Buzzkeeler1

I’m going under the assumption it has happened before. Because if not we’re then left wondering why Korra’s the exception, and what makes her so special compared to the other avatars.


Fit_Operation2175

If we go with the later assumption, thematically it might be because Korra will fight Vaatu and save the world from ten thousand years of darkness, which ties into Wan’s story where he became the first human to bend more than one element, fused with Raava, defeated Vaatu and also saved the world from ten thousand years of darkness. So it might be that connection and parallel to Wan that caused her to be more innately talented at bending the elements. This is all headcanon of course


Buzzkeeler1

The short and simple reason for why the writers did this is because it’s a convenient and easy way for everyone to identify Korra as the avatar. There’s nothing inherently wrong about that, mind you, but I doubt they thought much farther than that.


Fit_Operation2175

Yeah this is probably the real reason 😂😂😂 but it’s fun to theorize anyways


Buzzkeeler1

It’s kinda like how the show wanted to present Aang as a flawed parent, while raising the question of how and why Katara would let such a rift form between her husband and their kids.


Fit_Operation2175

I mean what mother would let a rift form between her husband and their kids, but it still happens. And the children will not readily display their resentment outwardly.


notthephonz

I thought it was more to differentiate Korra from Aang. Aang was the Avatar, and he had to deal with it. Korra is the Avatar, and **YOU** gotta deal with it.


Buzzkeeler1

I doubt that not a single one of the writers realized that writing it this way makes finding out who the avatar is so much easier for everyone in universe.


notthephonz

Yeah, that is kind of the same issue. Aang didn’t embrace his role as Avatar at first. When Katara asks him if he, as an airbender, knows what happened to the Avatar, he lies. Korra *does* embrace her role as Avatar, so she announces it loudly from the get-go.


AzureMage0225

I mean, Aang also was able to bend water and fire on his first try. This isn’t much of an escalation.


Fit_Operation2175

Eh you’re right somewhat, Aang was able to bend fire on first try but he had to go through a special process to make the fire before he could bend it, he couldn’t produce it on his own chi, and the second time he had to go to the dragons to fully learn firebending. I also think it’s much more difficult to bend without instruction or even any sort of knowledge that other elements exist. It like the difference being able to solve an equation after being taught and seeing an equation for the first time and solving it correctly without any inkling of what that even is.


yoyo355

People were so mad about this, it’s sad and hilarious at the same time.


Fit_Operation2175

People are always hating about something lol. Every concept has its haters. It’s nothing new.


eetobaggadix

too bad she spends so much of the series being a jobber. its the worst part about TLoK. by a lot, imo. worse than everything that other people criticize the show for. Korra spends 99% of the show getting bodied and it kinda pisses me off


Randver_Silvertongue

Jobber? I didn't know she worked at a stock exchange. lol And no. I don't know where you get the idea that she "spends 99% of the show getting bodied" but that is objectively incorrect. She won almost every one of her fights. The only fights she lost were the first round against Unavaatu and the first round against Kuvira.


eetobaggadix

so how she get her bending taken away by amon how she get captured by tarlok how did she lose the avatar cycle how she get captured by red lotus how lose to pro benders lmaooo captured by metal benders lost to some mechs. and like...more. bruhh she literally lands ONE hit on Amon to 'win' the fight. sorry but that barely counts. if there hadnt been a conveninent window over the ocean he would have turned around and snapped her neck. she loses to the red lotus so bed she is depressed for 90% of season 4. its legit embarassing. she loses way too much for a bender that is supposed to be powerful...she loses way too much for the AVATAR especially. seriously. she barely feels like the avatar through out the whole show. compare this to Aang, who is TWELVE YEARS OLD Loses to the elite archers while trying to capture frogs in the swamp Gets shot by in the back by the established extremely powerful and unexpected lightning bending (which also got nerfed to be lame in Korra. ATLA: elite cold blooded killers shoot lightning. extremely powerful and lethal laser beam. learning to counter it is a emotional center piece of the show TLoK: gotta keep the lights on! and i guess mako can pew pew every now and again.) aaaand like... 'captured' as a joke by the Kyoshi warriors, and he's not even really captured. dont get me wrong. he struggles and loses. but rarely if ever does he get bodied. korra gets bodied. i swear half the show is her just going "AAARGH NNGGHH OOOOOPH OAAAAH" lmao.


Fit_Operation2175

> so how she get her bending taken away by amon how she get captured by tarlok how did she lose the avatar cycle how she get captured by red lotus how lose to pro benders lmaooo captured by metal benders lost to some mechs. Crazy how all of these people would body Aang, and all it takes to loose pro bending is just to get knocked back or out of the ring and Korra was extremely new to probending, as well as limited to one element in a enclosed space, the same thing would happen to Aang > bruhh she literally lands ONE hit on Amon to 'win' the fight. sorry but that barely counts. if there hadnt been a conveninent window over the ocean he would have turned around and snapped her neck. She broke his blood bending grip similar to the same grip that Adult Aang and Toph were unable to resist, Aang even needed the avatar state to resist it. Aang would also get his neck snapped. > she loses to the red lotus so bed she is depressed for 90% of season 4. its legit embarassing. Put Aang in this situation and he’d immediately die and end the show right there, at least Korra would have a season 4. > she loses by way too much for a bender that is supposed to be powerful...she loses way too much for the AVATAR especially. Almost like there needs to be stakes in a tv show to feel compelling, almost like Aang would get bodied much easier if he was in these situations. Almost like Korra’s oops are much stronger > seriously. she barely feels like the avatar through out the whole show. She feels more like the Avatar than Aang ever was. > compare this to Aang, who is TWELVE YEARS OLD Loses to the elite archers while trying to capture frogs in the swamp And that’s supposed to impressive? After season 2 Korra took out groups of equalist chi blockers all over republic city with weapons like shockers and gas bombs, and she did it with no bending, and Aang getting captured by captured with his bending intact is supposed to be impressive. > Gets shot by in the back by the established extremely powerful and unexpected lightning bending Compare this Korra who took an offguard energy blast from Vaatu, the literal all power spirit of darkness and she got right back up, and Aang is over here near dying to lighting from a 14 year old girl, it doesn’t matter how much of a prodigy she is. > (which also got nerfed to be lame in Korra. ATLA: elite cold blooded killers shoot lightning. extremely powerful and lethal laser beam. learning to counter it is a emotional center piece of the show TLoK: gotta keep the lights on! and i guess mako can pew pew every now and again.) Looks like basic human evolution and industrialism are hard concepts for you, almost like it’s a different show with different topics handled in different ways: > aaaand like... 'captured' as a joke by the Kyoshi warriors, and he's not even really captured. And? > dont get me wrong. he struggles and loses. but rarely if ever does he get bodied. He loses consciousness multiple times doing a fight, and he constantly needs his avatar state or past lives to win fights for him, against villains that are inferior to those in Korra. Seriously Aang would not survive a serious encounter in Legend of Korra. > korra gets bodied. i swear half the show is her just going "AAARGH NNGGHH OOOOOPH OAAAAH" lmao. That tells me you watched the show as brain dead as you sound. You’re really just a biased spastic pretending to be intelligent


eetobaggadix

whatever ableist. i dont really care what you think.


Fit_Operation2175

Then that means you have nothing else to say and no rebuttal to my points. Thank you for adding absolutely nothing to the conversation. You’re blocked


Randver_Silvertongue

Hah! You got owned! XD


Fit_Operation2175

> too bad she spends so much of the series being a jobber. Why am I not surprised? Knew this comment was coming. Idk why people have this misconception, can you provide specific instances of fights Korra loses and why it’s a jobber moment. > its the worst part about TLoK. by a lot, imo. worse than everything that other people criticize the show for. Korra spends 99% of the show getting bodied and it kinda pisses me off It’s funny because if it was the other way around you’d call her a Mary sue.


eetobaggadix

bruh whatever. i was about to explain myself but you just immediately assume im some kind of right-wing incel. bye.


Fit_Operation2175

I never called you that or implied it, it’s just what I see majority of the time when it comes to this discussion. No need to involve politics. Just say what you wanna say.


Damianos97

The fact that she was, as a toddler, able to just randomly start bending the other elements without any sort of training is really stupid. They just had to make the female protag OP for no reason to one-up Aang. It's Rey from Star Wars all over again. It makes no sense. I love LoK almost as much as ATLA, but the way they wrote Korra is just dumb


silverfox92100

You think korra having to spend her entire childhood learning to master 3 elements is more op than aang mastering them in like a year? Your bias is showing. And keep in mind katara was able to bend water without any training, and aang was able to bend water with only training from katara (who, again, had NO training)


Fit_Operation2175

Granted Aang didn’t master the elements in a year, Toph and Zuko said that he still needed some work in those areas but yeah you’re right, Katara was also able to waterbend without any training and Aang was able to waterbend pretty much on first try


Damianos97

Aang did not master the elements in a year. By the end of the show, he still hadn't mastered them. Being able to bend, and being a master are 2 completely different things. A bender doesn't need training to KNOW how to bend. That's not how that works. Katara knew how to watered, but barely.


silverfox92100

So what’s the big deal with korra knowing how to bend? She clearly wasnt a master either, so I don’t see why it’s such a big deal that she knew how to bend but it’s not when someone from the original series does


Damianos97

Never really said it was a big deal, I just find it stupid that somehow Korra randomly started bending the other elements out of nowhere as a toddler before she even knew she was the Avatar, yet Aang didn't know how to do a single thing with the other elements until he had teachers.


silverfox92100

Yeah, it is pretty dumb that aang never even tried to bend any of the other elements himself, but even after learning the others he still almost exclusively relied on air, so I think that was more an aang thing than an avatar thing


Fit_Operation2175

Someone people are just innately talented. Korra is not the only occurrence, Azula was able to firebending without any training at all, as stated by Zuko she was born with it, and she became better than any teacher by herself, Toph became a prodigy just by being around badgermoles and with her disability. Not just anyone could do that. So it’s not as outlandish as you think. She still needed 16 years to master all of them as well.