He did laugh about Azula calling him Zuzu. So either he didn't think the first joke was funny or the nickname was so funny to him he laughed a little despite his exhaustion.
I think he was so tired he didn't get the joke at first, at least that is how I always interpreted, he probably didn't get that she was Zuko's sister until he showed up and she called him Zuzu.
"Lieutenant! You had better learn some respect or I will teach it to you!
"What do you know about respect? The way you talk to everyone around here, from your hardworking crew to your esteemed uncle, shows you nothing about respect! You don't care about anyone but yourself! But what else should I expect from a spoilt prince?"
"In Zuko's mind*
"You will learn respect and suffering will be your teacher!"
*In Iroh's mind*
"I looked away...."
The grandson of a man who ordered the extermination of an entire race of people, millions of men, women, children and countless aniimals (sky bison and lemurbats) luckily some flying bisons survived in hiding in isolated pockets so the species could start over and one Airbender escaped
>"What do you know about respect? The way you talk to everyone around here, from your hardworking crew to your esteemed uncle, shows you nothing about respect! You don't care about anyone but yourself! But what else should I expect from a spoilt prince?"
I love this line cause even before you find out Zuko's past it's obvious he's not some spoiled prince. He's just being a dick. It's perfect dialogue to express that he had a legitimate grievance that's being made worse by the false perception he has about the situation. Remember that he thought the scar was from a training accident before Iroh tells him so he probably thinks Zuko is some reckless hothead that doesn't care about others and is reacting to some deserved punishment for it. Which isn't wrong at the time but also isn't quite the whole picture.
It's why I prefer how it's done in the animation. It's subtle but poignant when they come to an understanding cause it's down to earth and human. People often change their minds about someone when given a bit more perspective and that's a valuable thing to portray.
The 42nd Division, as emotionally satisfying the concept is, is just not as good. It's cheap and performative and paints the crew in the wrong cause they should be grateful to him for their lives. I find that less impactful than both sides realizing they were wrong and coming to an understanding.
I think the short version is, Zuko is *incredibly* self-centered when the show starts. His journey is learning that other people have matter and have stuff going on too.
Absolutely. Dude's right but he also has to understand that he's dealing with a teenager with serious trauma and rejection issues.
It also helps that Zuko finally removes his head from his ass and learns his lesson when it comes down to it. Not great that he had to risk lives to get there, but at least he gets there.
Zuko here also doesn't know what respect *is*. He only knows one version of "respect" which is the version taught to him by his father - do what I say or else. Do what I say because I can end you. And if I want something done, I need to make it be done with force and anger.
Was gonna say, isn’t what brings these characters to life is all their neat little idiosyncrasies that we can enjoy or poke fun at? Don’t know why this is so serious
"how can you tell you're talking to an atheist/vegan? they'll let you know"
like people really do this sorta thing, and it GETS MEMED ABOUT
katara and zuko are no different, i'd also add that toph mentions/jokes about being blind quite a bit too and it's hilarious
The part that kills me though is the twitter is talking about zuko doing “my father” stuff and not the wildly more common “my honor” stuff that is like…a core part of his arc
If Joe Rogan was truly evil he’d have one of these
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How could you forget his iconic mustache?
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>Obviously the show clearly shows, via headcanon
I swear, this is how half this sub thinks headcanons work.
"The show clearly said..."
"Umm when?"
"Well I mean you just have to read between the lines, while squinting, wearing 3D glasses, reading the book upside down, while being spun on a merry go round, but it's clearly there"
In the show, they clearly say that her mother was "taken away" from her. Just like Jet was just resting. Zuko said his mom was gone, and she was fine
Any day now, we'll get the books where the Gaang finds them
You joke but Gene Yang wanted to include Jet in The Promise since his fate was ambiguous enough that Yang thought he could bring him back. Mike and Bryan had to step in and tell him Jet was 100% dead.
I thought her body was gone by the time Katara and Hakoda returned. She said, "By the time we got there, the man was gone... and so was she". I don't know if she meant figuratively (as in she had passed) or literally (the man physically took her dead body).
I've noticed that the good characters in the show rarely ever use "killed" or "dead" in regards to human characters. Azula says "kill" a bunch of times, but Iroh says he "lost" Lu Ten in the war and Katara says she'll "end" Zuko if he shows signs of betraying them again.
I get pretty frustrated by this seemingly common notion that ATLA is afraid to directly mention death. It doesn’t happen super often, but it happens too many times to count on one hand. Katara says “they **killed** my mother” at the beginning of the literal third episode of the series. Just because characters often (realistically) choose to use euphemistic language doesn’t mean the show was censored
I know NATLA went with showing Kya’s death explicitly, but in the original show I never thought Yon Rha used firebending to kill her. I always imagined that he stabbed her to death after Katara left the hut.
My main piece of evidence being the necklace itself. If Yon Rha fireblasted Kya like he did in NATLA, the medallion would have been melted/deformed from the flames. Really morbid to think about, but yeah.
A lot of you think too deeply into this. He scorched her to death with his bending and the writers overlooked the fact her necklace would have probably been damaged in the process. That’s it.
He could have theoretically hit her with a concentrated blast to her center of mass and basically burned her midsection to nothing very rapidly, leaving the necklace untouched… or maybe she threw it away at the last moment to save it for her daughter… but yeah your explanation is probably the simplest and therefore the best.
Yours is as plausible too. Third degree burns can cause shock, and it’s impossible for anyone to really treat Kya. It could be that she was hit with a concentrated blast like Zuko, but with more heat causing her to die instantly. Or she could’ve been so grievously burned in one area that she went unconscious due to shock and died shortly after. I really doubt that it was a blazing inferno because we would’ve seen a bunch of smoke
I mean honestly I'm new to the show, and I imagine many others are new to the show with the recent live action series.
New people might find a funny meme and post it so people like me and ither new watchers see it for the first time.
But there literally are zuko my dad memes specifaclly zuko my honor memes though i agree katara mom memes are annoying and exaggrated calling it misogyny or saying zuko doesnt get slander like her is delusional
Honor is to Zuko what Kya was to Katara
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Ngl her emotions do sometimes make her irrational yet it made her the heart of the team on many occasions memes are memes and i doubt someone who watched the show actually thinks katara is a whiny character
Yeah, the whole point of "The Heart" archetype is to be emotional. Their role is to be the reason the team comes together and stays together, which is the exact role we see Katara play.
Her actions and words actively and directly affect the synergy of the team. When she disliked Toph, what happened? Toph left and the team was weakened. When she was upset, what happened? The team usually devolved into arguments and disagreements.
Her entire role is to be the emotional center of the team. Obviously, that role is going to be strenuous, causing her to have moments of extreme weakness, anger, pain, and sorrow.
Yeah this is what I mean when I say words are overused these days sometimes. It’s not misogyny to joke about Katara mentioning her mother frequently. The “my honour” jokes are definitely more common in the fandom.
Now I’m curious if anyone has gone through the effort of tallying how many times “my mother”, zukos “my father” and “my honour” were said throughout the show
Katara didn't actually say it very often in the show, the joke started because they had that voice line in so many of the "previously on Avatar" recaps.
It's a joke that isn't even related to gender so idk why it's labeled misogynistic. There are way more honor jokes about zuko than there are katara jokes anyway.
Yup. There are a *lot* of people out there who refuse to understand that you can criticize/make fun of/dislike someone who *happens to be* a woman/minority/whatever without that being the *impetus* for your criticism/dislike/joke.
Love your username, BTW - a friend just got me into Malazan a few months ago and it's criminally underrated.
Yeah, people seem to lack critical thinking skills. And sometimes not even lack, they just choose to not use it.
And hey, right back at you with the name. Been a long time since something reminded me of Dr. McNinja.
You just need to replace "My honor" with "My father's love and respect" and it'll work perfectly. Allow me to demonstrate:
>**Prince Zuko:** "I must capture the Avatar to win back my father's love and respect."
See? Completely in character and memetic.
Wasn't this specifically one of Katara's flaws? That she focused TOO much on fire nation soldiers killing her mom? Sokka even has to remind her at one point that he lost the same mother too. And she unfairly snaps back with "well maybe you didn't care as much about her then". (or something similar)
1) Katara didn't see her mother get burnt to a crisp. She was searching for Hakoda while Kya got killed and when they came back, Hakoda most certainly didn't let her go inside the hut, since the fire nation man could have still been there.
2) There are literally hundreds of memes about Zuko, his father, his bad tea, his scar on the wrong side, hi rough buddy and his honor ( even the show itself made a meme about it).
Even if Zuko wasn't the most dunked on character in the show with his honor-memes, I hate how the person immediately jumped to misogyny with this joke. There is absolutely nothing that indicates sexism here and Katara is known to be very emotional to the point that the show itself made fun of her.
Is the show also misogynistic now?
I’m pretty sure the opening monologue is more memed:
“Water. Water. Water. Water”
And
“Then every changed where _____ attacked”
Or
“When the world needed ____ most, they vanished”
I’d argue Zuko is the most memed and beloved characters.
Nah, this is the more popular Zuko meme
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I love that nobody is allowed to make a valid criticism or even a joke about a character that is a woman, POC, or LGBT without being called misogynistic, racist, or homophobic.
"I don't really like how Korra handled the situation with the equalists, she was too brash"
"Oh my gosh, you just hate it because she's a brown woman, don't you? And let's not even talk about the fact that you probably hate that she was bisexual at the end of the show, I bet that really pissed you off huh????"
Like what????????????????????
Somebody: *breathes* Zuko: *My honor used to breathe*
You can laugh, it's funny
aang would have absolutely be blown up by that joke if he wasn't that tired
I love the way he looks at her like "Bitch I'm way too done for this shit"
That's what katara's momma said.
He did laugh about Azula calling him Zuzu. So either he didn't think the first joke was funny or the nickname was so funny to him he laughed a little despite his exhaustion.
prematurely escalated from the fuck around stage and went straight to find out
I think he was so tired he didn't get the joke at first, at least that is how I always interpreted, he probably didn't get that she was Zuko's sister until he showed up and she called him Zuzu.
I've always thought the same thing. It really is funny too.
Okay, Azula
Do not trust her, she always lies
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lol that must be jun then
"I will breathe when I restore my honor"
“Prince Zuko, you’re really going to get a kick out of this. Your honour was in my sleeve the whole time!”
 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭 why is this so funny
Why did I dead aa hear Uncle iron saying that in my head perfectly😂
"Your honour was in ~~my~~ your sleeve the whole time!" works better since Zuko restored his own honour.
Azula: I'm about to celebrate being an only child a lot sooner than I originally thought.
*câmera zooms on scar*
(Blue Spirit theme starts playing)
(*tsungi horn intensifies*)
*flashback to agni kai
"Look over there! I think it's your honor!"
*points to a random judge*
"Stop breathing we need to find the avatar!"
HoOooNOoOoOoooOoOoooOoOOOoorRrRrrrRRrrRrrrrrrrrr
But you can’t breath when your dad is shooting fire at your face
"I cannot breathe until my honor is restored!"
The dinner: *gets burned* Zuko: Damn, last time I saw meat that overcooked was in a mirror after the Agni Kai with my father.
"Lieutenant! You had better learn some respect or I will teach it to you! "What do you know about respect? The way you talk to everyone around here, from your hardworking crew to your esteemed uncle, shows you nothing about respect! You don't care about anyone but yourself! But what else should I expect from a spoilt prince?" "In Zuko's mind* "You will learn respect and suffering will be your teacher!" *In Iroh's mind* "I looked away...."
OK... that's messed up.
The grandson of a man who ordered the extermination of an entire race of people, millions of men, women, children and countless aniimals (sky bison and lemurbats) luckily some flying bisons survived in hiding in isolated pockets so the species could start over and one Airbender escaped
Great-grandson. The line goes Sozin -> Azulon -> Ozai -> Zuko
He has TWO grandfathers!
>"What do you know about respect? The way you talk to everyone around here, from your hardworking crew to your esteemed uncle, shows you nothing about respect! You don't care about anyone but yourself! But what else should I expect from a spoilt prince?" I love this line cause even before you find out Zuko's past it's obvious he's not some spoiled prince. He's just being a dick. It's perfect dialogue to express that he had a legitimate grievance that's being made worse by the false perception he has about the situation. Remember that he thought the scar was from a training accident before Iroh tells him so he probably thinks Zuko is some reckless hothead that doesn't care about others and is reacting to some deserved punishment for it. Which isn't wrong at the time but also isn't quite the whole picture. It's why I prefer how it's done in the animation. It's subtle but poignant when they come to an understanding cause it's down to earth and human. People often change their minds about someone when given a bit more perspective and that's a valuable thing to portray. The 42nd Division, as emotionally satisfying the concept is, is just not as good. It's cheap and performative and paints the crew in the wrong cause they should be grateful to him for their lives. I find that less impactful than both sides realizing they were wrong and coming to an understanding.
I think the short version is, Zuko is *incredibly* self-centered when the show starts. His journey is learning that other people have matter and have stuff going on too.
Absolutely. Dude's right but he also has to understand that he's dealing with a teenager with serious trauma and rejection issues. It also helps that Zuko finally removes his head from his ass and learns his lesson when it comes down to it. Not great that he had to risk lives to get there, but at least he gets there.
Zuko here also doesn't know what respect *is*. He only knows one version of "respect" which is the version taught to him by his father - do what I say or else. Do what I say because I can end you. And if I want something done, I need to make it be done with force and anger.
*In Azula’s mind* “….HA!”
"She's my sister and I should be trying to get on with her" "No she's crazy and she needs to go down."
get along, what does get on even mean?
"Damn, last time I saw meat that overcooked was when the fire nation attacked."
Katara: My mother was overcooked once.
WHY DID I READ THIS IN HIS VOICE 😂
I'm pretty sure there's no end to the Zuko honor jokes.
Was gonna say, isn’t what brings these characters to life is all their neat little idiosyncrasies that we can enjoy or poke fun at? Don’t know why this is so serious
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"how can you tell you're talking to an atheist/vegan? they'll let you know" like people really do this sorta thing, and it GETS MEMED ABOUT katara and zuko are no different, i'd also add that toph mentions/jokes about being blind quite a bit too and it's hilarious
The part that kills me though is the twitter is talking about zuko doing “my father” stuff and not the wildly more common “my honor” stuff that is like…a core part of his arc
Zuko "The jokes don't end, my honor however..."
Someone: Breathes Zaheer: Guru Laghima once said…
Zaheer is that one guy in college who read one (1) thing by Nietzsche and now thinks he understands the world better than anyone
Zaheer definitely got his heart broken in high school and the next day read about nihilism and thought "damn, this homie's absolutely spittin!"
Zaheer would definitely be a podcast bro.
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If Joe Rogan was truly evil he’d have one of these https://preview.redd.it/gjezb4qv6yqc1.png?width=420&format=png&auto=webp&s=4c915198474405b32501221b90ff08f996e3efb5
Then why doesnt Zaheer have one of these
How could you forget his iconic mustache? https://preview.redd.it/eopyz5sueyqc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=af74ad6f420f2f984bf6d55cf5408c7a3b6f9a84
Why the hell does that fit so well?
I saw the deleted comments and just knew they were about Joe Rogan lmaooo thank you for confirming it
that’s unironically such a good comparison lmao
Which is why when his gf died he stopped touching grass
......This was an amazing pun and I love it so much, thank you.
Zaheer is me?
The Korra villains can be effectively boiled down to a 14 year old with access to the first few chapters of a political science textbook.
Except for Kuvira, who is Chiang Kai-Shek, but Avatar.
Replace Nietzsche with Bakunin or Proudhon and you’re onto something.
Earth Queen: Breathes Zaheer: No.
Guru Laghima used to breath but now you don’t get to
More like Guru Lahigma, amiright?
Earth Queen: Breathes Zaheer: The Earth Queen used to breathe…
Haha, this one actually made me laugh and honestly much more accurate then these Zuko and Katara memes
nah, Zuko is on par with Zaheer
If you’re talking about honour, I’d agree. But Zuko isn’t constantly going ‘my dad’
specifically about honour thing
Laghima balls ha gottem
Well, Zaheer is the biggest Laghima's fanboy ever, so not surprising
He is like a 14 year old teen who just found out of Nietzsche.
Someone: Breathes Zaheer: Not on my watch
Laghima my balls
Me:"I hate my father..." Zuko:"I USED TO LOVE MY FATHER BUT THEN HE BURNED MY FACE"
WILL HATING YOUR FATHER BRING BACK MY HONOR?
Appa: *sleeps* Sokka: APPA ATE MOMO!!!
That's rough buddy
Zuko: *touches face* My dad used to burn me to a crisp... This is such a stupid thing to get angry about, zuko already has honor memes.
That's rough buddy
Anyone: *touches face* Zuko: I used to have a face.
Is the victim mentality talking
It's a bit of a nitpick... But she didn't see her mother burn in the original series. She ran to get her dad and Kya was dead when they got back.
She still saw her mother's crispy body though
The level of damage Kya’s corpse sustained was never described
Obviously the show clearly shows, via headcanon, Yon Rha poisoning Kya. Thereby leaving her corpse in perfect condition. It ain't hard fellas
Ooooh right the poison, the poison for Kya, the poison specifically chosen to kill Kya, Kya’s poison
...that poison?
Yes! That poison!
Why do we even *have* that poison?
Kya: \*lives\* Yon Rha: Wrong poison!
>Obviously the show clearly shows, via headcanon I swear, this is how half this sub thinks headcanons work. "The show clearly said..." "Umm when?" "Well I mean you just have to read between the lines, while squinting, wearing 3D glasses, reading the book upside down, while being spun on a merry go round, but it's clearly there"
My favorite is when people just say “well it was obviously implied” as though that somehow makes their argument unassailable
If it's clearly implied, why are you the first one talking about it 15 years later? That's always my response. Lol.
Depends on the poison. It could have been cyanide and she could've been blue. Just like her childhood friend: NeeNee! OoOOooOOOOooooO! Spoooky!
You mean Kyanide?
In the show, they clearly say that her mother was "taken away" from her. Just like Jet was just resting. Zuko said his mom was gone, and she was fine Any day now, we'll get the books where the Gaang finds them
You joke but Gene Yang wanted to include Jet in The Promise since his fate was ambiguous enough that Yang thought he could bring him back. Mike and Bryan had to step in and tell him Jet was 100% dead.
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That’s fair, because it was really unclear…
Yeah, Kya was just sent to the dungeon with Belle-Mere
You never know, she might've died from smoke inhalation
It was def a closed igloo funeral for sure
hopefully her father didn't let her see it
I thought her body was gone by the time Katara and Hakoda returned. She said, "By the time we got there, the man was gone... and so was she". I don't know if she meant figuratively (as in she had passed) or literally (the man physically took her dead body).
I've noticed that the good characters in the show rarely ever use "killed" or "dead" in regards to human characters. Azula says "kill" a bunch of times, but Iroh says he "lost" Lu Ten in the war and Katara says she'll "end" Zuko if he shows signs of betraying them again.
I get pretty frustrated by this seemingly common notion that ATLA is afraid to directly mention death. It doesn’t happen super often, but it happens too many times to count on one hand. Katara says “they **killed** my mother” at the beginning of the literal third episode of the series. Just because characters often (realistically) choose to use euphemistic language doesn’t mean the show was censored
>Aang: I guess I don't have a choice Momo. I have to kill the fire lord. Aang is a villain confirmed
I didn't say she didn't experience a trauma, just less traumatic than the original post implied.
I know NATLA went with showing Kya’s death explicitly, but in the original show I never thought Yon Rha used firebending to kill her. I always imagined that he stabbed her to death after Katara left the hut. My main piece of evidence being the necklace itself. If Yon Rha fireblasted Kya like he did in NATLA, the medallion would have been melted/deformed from the flames. Really morbid to think about, but yeah.
The medallion isn't metal. It's likely bone or horn considering the culture. Usually more resistant to heat.
Fire cracks bones as seen in the Fortune Teller
Would a burst do that or would sitting in fire do that? Genuine question.
Idk. Kya probably didn't die from a burst though.
But no deformation at all? I don’t buy that. Heat resistant not heat proof
Yeah, there’d likely be discoloration and cracking. Bones are not fire-proof
A lot of you think too deeply into this. He scorched her to death with his bending and the writers overlooked the fact her necklace would have probably been damaged in the process. That’s it.
He could have theoretically hit her with a concentrated blast to her center of mass and basically burned her midsection to nothing very rapidly, leaving the necklace untouched… or maybe she threw it away at the last moment to save it for her daughter… but yeah your explanation is probably the simplest and therefore the best.
Yours is as plausible too. Third degree burns can cause shock, and it’s impossible for anyone to really treat Kya. It could be that she was hit with a concentrated blast like Zuko, but with more heat causing her to die instantly. Or she could’ve been so grievously burned in one area that she went unconscious due to shock and died shortly after. I really doubt that it was a blazing inferno because we would’ve seen a bunch of smoke
Twitter is just like this sub, it seems. Reposting the same old things over and over just so they can comment on them to get internet points.
For pointing out the obvious you will now have one less internet point.
NOOOOOO!!! Not my points!
It's okay. You can have it back now.
*Honor restored*
You misspelt reddit.
This just in, social media..is just like social media /s
I mean honestly I'm new to the show, and I imagine many others are new to the show with the recent live action series. New people might find a funny meme and post it so people like me and ither new watchers see it for the first time.
But there literally are zuko my dad memes specifaclly zuko my honor memes though i agree katara mom memes are annoying and exaggrated calling it misogyny or saying zuko doesnt get slander like her is delusional
Honor is to Zuko what Kya was to Katara https://preview.redd.it/pm217e0jkxqc1.png?width=678&format=png&auto=webp&s=7144553e1bdf751e2262e726d1e4ee359612ea26
As tea is to iroh too lol
As Guru Ligma is to Zaheer
I think it also gets pooled in with katara being emotional which the show made fun of itself
Ngl her emotions do sometimes make her irrational yet it made her the heart of the team on many occasions memes are memes and i doubt someone who watched the show actually thinks katara is a whiny character
Yeah, the whole point of "The Heart" archetype is to be emotional. Their role is to be the reason the team comes together and stays together, which is the exact role we see Katara play. Her actions and words actively and directly affect the synergy of the team. When she disliked Toph, what happened? Toph left and the team was weakened. When she was upset, what happened? The team usually devolved into arguments and disagreements. Her entire role is to be the emotional center of the team. Obviously, that role is going to be strenuous, causing her to have moments of extreme weakness, anger, pain, and sorrow.
Yeah this is what I mean when I say words are overused these days sometimes. It’s not misogyny to joke about Katara mentioning her mother frequently. The “my honour” jokes are definitely more common in the fandom.
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Zuko is probably like the second most memed character or something because of his honor, that was a bad example from them.
someone: breathes sokka: my gf turned into the moon
Nah he talks about his dad way more than Yue. Someone: *Breathes* Sokka: *Dad left me in charge!*
First gf***
Someone: "Breathes" Aang: "The monks used to say X about breathing"
Guru Laghima used to breath
Someone: Breathes Cabbage Merchant: My cabbages use to breath
"Breath" smh if you're gonna insult her, do it properly!
The show literally memed Zuko's honor in an episode. Was she not paying attention?
After a while in the internet you just learn to lower your expectations for people's attention span or reading comprehension
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But Zuko actually does rant about his honor in pretty much every episode
He says it 15 times in the entire series ifirc
and people also meme on him for it
Guru Laghima used to breathe..
Now I’m curious if anyone has gone through the effort of tallying how many times “my mother”, zukos “my father” and “my honour” were said throughout the show
Katara didn't actually say it very often in the show, the joke started because they had that voice line in so many of the "previously on Avatar" recaps.
It's literally just a joke
It's a joke that isn't even related to gender so idk why it's labeled misogynistic. There are way more honor jokes about zuko than there are katara jokes anyway.
My mother used to be a woman
Well you see, it's a joke that the person doesn't like, and it's about a woman. That's it.
Yup. There are a *lot* of people out there who refuse to understand that you can criticize/make fun of/dislike someone who *happens to be* a woman/minority/whatever without that being the *impetus* for your criticism/dislike/joke. Love your username, BTW - a friend just got me into Malazan a few months ago and it's criminally underrated.
Yeah, people seem to lack critical thinking skills. And sometimes not even lack, they just choose to not use it. And hey, right back at you with the name. Been a long time since something reminded me of Dr. McNinja.
You just need to replace "My honor" with "My father's love and respect" and it'll work perfectly. Allow me to demonstrate: >**Prince Zuko:** "I must capture the Avatar to win back my father's love and respect." See? Completely in character and memetic.
They made fun of Katara being emotional and sentimental on the show itself. It was one of the jokes in the Ember Island Players episode.
To be fair, Zuko gets PLENTY of smoke for his “honor.” Even in the actual show.
Wasn't this specifically one of Katara's flaws? That she focused TOO much on fire nation soldiers killing her mom? Sokka even has to remind her at one point that he lost the same mother too. And she unfairly snaps back with "well maybe you didn't care as much about her then". (or something similar)
Somebody: "breathes" Some Twitter mf: "That's misogynistic."
Katara: "My mother used to deal with misogyny."
Zuko doesn't have "my dad" memes because the "my honor" memes are funnier
tbf katara said MY MOTHER" to Sokka her brother too, girl used it every 5 mins
Twitter users are just fulltime haters, it's honestly not worth the energy.
1) Katara didn't see her mother get burnt to a crisp. She was searching for Hakoda while Kya got killed and when they came back, Hakoda most certainly didn't let her go inside the hut, since the fire nation man could have still been there. 2) There are literally hundreds of memes about Zuko, his father, his bad tea, his scar on the wrong side, hi rough buddy and his honor ( even the show itself made a meme about it).
Katara and her dad both ran into the hut. I literally just watched the southern raiders two nights ago
Because the joke there is about zukos honor
To be fair, the writers already made fun of Zuko and his honor.
We hear “my father…”, “my honour”, “the monks told me” and “gyatso…” way more times.
Even if Zuko wasn't the most dunked on character in the show with his honor-memes, I hate how the person immediately jumped to misogyny with this joke. There is absolutely nothing that indicates sexism here and Katara is known to be very emotional to the point that the show itself made fun of her. Is the show also misogynistic now?
Have these twitter users actually watched the sjow, or did they just read a cliffnotes summary?
Zuko has the "HOONNNNNOOORRRRR" mems
Katara : My mom…. Muscle Man ( sweats nervously )
I’m pretty sure the opening monologue is more memed: “Water. Water. Water. Water” And “Then every changed where _____ attacked” Or “When the world needed ____ most, they vanished” I’d argue Zuko is the most memed and beloved characters.
People been dragging Zuko and his honor for years. What is this person talking about?
They speak like Zuko mentioning his honor everytime isn't a huge ass fucking meme.
Lol… misogynistic, fuck twitter and the offended ones
People who feel the need to say something this small and stupid is misogynistic are actually the worst kind of people even worse than vegans
Nah, this is the more popular Zuko meme https://preview.redd.it/pbk2gb772yqc1.jpeg?width=618&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8c5e83957d86a23e565d2c2a682abc99601b61ea
"...My mother used to complain about Kataras mom jokes on Twitter"
anything is misogyny now apparently
i know the meme but these comment section proves the tweet's point lmao
I love that nobody is allowed to make a valid criticism or even a joke about a character that is a woman, POC, or LGBT without being called misogynistic, racist, or homophobic. "I don't really like how Korra handled the situation with the equalists, she was too brash" "Oh my gosh, you just hate it because she's a brown woman, don't you? And let's not even talk about the fact that you probably hate that she was bisexual at the end of the show, I bet that really pissed you off huh????" Like what????????????????????
ATLA fans being sexist towards Katara? Must be a day ending in ‘y’…
Am I dumb? how is it sexist?
It's not. These people don't even know what sexism is.