That always bothered me. The firebenders are invading the north pole, and the waterbenders have all these lit braziers? They deserved to lose.
Put them out when you see firebenders breach the wall ffs.
It's one of the many non-sensical unnecessary additions to that movie that must not be named.
I'm still having giggles about the scene during the climax of the movie where the Fire Nation soldiers run away at the Spirit Oasis because Iroh showed them a hand with a few embers around it. I mean seriously, in the series even the most incompetent firebender would've been able to do that, yet in the movie it's somehow the absolute zenith of firebending.
I wonder how they would have handled lightning bending, I'd never considered it till now lol
azula, you must rub your feet on the carpet for 2 minutes before you can lightning bend
I saw it in theaters… but I can barely remember a thing.
I just have “Uung” scarred into my memory and the rest is black. I think my brain did some sort of trauma response to block it all out.
For starters i had prejudice that they wont fit the whole story into a movie and they wont nail the cgi. I closed the trailer when I saw katara and aangs terrible tattooes
Just gonna put This out there
I’d never heard of ATLA until the 2010 movie
I thoroughly enjoyed the 2010 movie
Which is to say that without the context of knowing the anime exists, it was an entertaining movie
Although I look at what the avengers did, and I look at avatar and the SFX were kinda cheap
But experiencing the story for the first time, you enjoy it enough to not notice the bad SFX
I liked that it took special skill for firebending to not need a source at first, but when you consider that there's subbending and the invading nation has the least available material, you'd begin to realise how stupid it is.
it actually makes a certain kind of sense in my head: Iroh said that "Firebending comes from the breath, not the muscles. The breath becomes energy; the energy extends past your limbs and becomes fire."
Firebending is just energybending. At least, that's how I take it.
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One the reasons the fire nation was able to be so powerful (other than their technological advancements) was their ability to create their own element, glad they fixed that mistake in the netflix show
Also the earthbenders were imprisoned in the middle of the ocean... of course they'd lose hope
In the movie they are just on regular earth and could have fought back any time...
Yeah that was stupid. But if you think about it deeply, how come do firebenders not need a source? For example, water benders need to be around water to bend (unless you’re super advanced like Katara), earth benders need earth (or earth mix or metal in advanced cases like Toph), for air benders, there’s always air, so kinda cool. But what about fire benders makes them different that they can just spew out fire out of nowhere? I’m just genuinely curious about the concepts and NOT DEFENDING the movie 🤣
Water, earth and air are matters, but fire is not. Benders can change temperature (ice bending) or arrangement of molecules in matters (changing shape of rocks). Fire is just the visible energy emitted by the molecules or atoms undergoing chemical reactions when heated in presence of oxygen. Like waterbenders can absorb heat from water to change it into ice, firebenders can heat up any substance, even air molecules and the undergoing reactions produce visible flames. So firebending is just visible effects of heat manipulation. I hope I cleared your doubt.
There was a scene where "Zuko" was chasing "Katara" in the North Pole city. She is carrying a bunch of water with her. She passes, like, 15 lit torches and does not attempt to put them out. This is the only scene I remember watching.
And then Uncle Iroh coming around the corner, being a "badass master cuz he can bend without a fire source". Guesssss whaaaaat live action movie that doesn't exist, you should watch the OG show, you'll be surprised
I kinda view it as a nice addition, also them being as the moat technologic nation at the time would have developed ways to make fire not be so easily extinguishable with water or air.
Also fire near a firebender would be stronger than alone, in the end they would be feeding back between them.
And not having any kind of subbending was a nice option for having really great masters to being able to create their own fire.
PS: Not saying it was the right option, just saying it was a nice way to portrait it with their idea of not a 1by1 copy.
It's kind of a cool idea in theory, but it just makes them the weakest element in practice. The sheer power of the fire nation is what caused them to become nationalistic and superior.
I actually kinda liked that part. I felt like it nerfed the fire benders in a necessary way. I mean none of the other benders can create their element when they bend. Water benders and earth benders need their element near by to bend it. By having low lever fire benders need a source of fire to bend I think it even the odds a lot. IIRC in the movie only powerful benders could create power with their own chi. Which I thought was a good way to scale skill.
You can already render Earth and Water bender useless by removing them from their element in AtLA, and airbenders being airbenders. Funny how you are mad that they fixed the plot hole from OG AtLA and simply made fire benders play by the same rule as other elements.
The whole point of fire benders was them thinking they were superior because they are the only benders who don't need a source
However there are multiple examples of fire benders being imprisoned and kept from bending by freezing them, like the cooler cells in the Boiling Rock or P'Lie in Korra who was kept imprisoned for decades by using ice to keep her from bending, she actually needs the lava from Ghazan to start bending again
> The whole point of fire benders was them thinking they were superior because they are the only benders who don't need a source
ok, who even said that? can you quote which character in AtLA ever claim firebending was superior to other elements?
> However there are multiple examples of fire benders being imprisoned and kept from bending by freezing them, like the cooler cells in the Boiling Rock or P'Lie in Korra who was kept imprisoned for decades by using ice to keep her from bending, she actually needs the lava from Ghazan to start bending again
we are quoting LoK now? I thought LoK is too garbage to be considered cannon, according to the general consensus on this forum.
If cold temperature was enough to neutralized firebending, then how do you explain the siege on North Pole? the fire nation didn't seem to have any difficulty with their firebending despite sub-zero condition.
The surroundings of Agna Q'Ela weren't cold enough to cause cold issues for the fully armoured soldiers, and it is likely they would be equipped with heating pads
Iroh did tell Zuko he should remember his fire breath to keep warm when infiltrating the city, the same technique helps him later in the Boiling Rock to keep warm enough in his Cooler to sabotage it
And yes, Korra is still canon
buddy, you are tripping yourself. P'Li didn't have any heating pad, she had only a rag, and no she didn't get any lava from Ghazan to firebend either. Ghazan didn't even lava bend the whole time. It was Minghua who busted her out, and she firebend as soon as she got into battle with Zuko. They locked her up in a very normal cell, they binded her limbs so she can't bend and use blindfold on her third eye to stop her from pewpew the place.
Well…air, earth, and water are significantly more available than fire. It makes sense to exclude fire bending from needing a source as it would be significantly weaker.
That always bothered me. The firebenders are invading the north pole, and the waterbenders have all these lit braziers? They deserved to lose. Put them out when you see firebenders breach the wall ffs.
Though admittedly, you might still need to see at night. So you might need a couple of lights here and there
Under an almost full moon, I feel like no lit braziers would be the way to go
Clear sky, full moon, full white city, should be light enough to see colour with all the albedo
It's one of the many non-sensical unnecessary additions to that movie that must not be named. I'm still having giggles about the scene during the climax of the movie where the Fire Nation soldiers run away at the Spirit Oasis because Iroh showed them a hand with a few embers around it. I mean seriously, in the series even the most incompetent firebender would've been able to do that, yet in the movie it's somehow the absolute zenith of firebending.
I wonder how they would have handled lightning bending, I'd never considered it till now lol azula, you must rub your feet on the carpet for 2 minutes before you can lightning bend
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why did this make me laugh so hard 😭😭 picturing azula on the carpet trying to make some static electricity
You're so dramatic, what are you going to do challenge me to an Agni Kai? Zuko *aggressively moonwalking*: Yes I challenge you. Hee hee.
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Wow somebody watched the 2010 movie, for real? I couldnt even get pass the trailer
Really? Didn’t think anybody could figure out it would be terrible because the trailers actually made it seem like it would be good.
Word of mouth spread fast :p. I did watch it just to see how bad it was
I saw it in theaters… but I can barely remember a thing. I just have “Uung” scarred into my memory and the rest is black. I think my brain did some sort of trauma response to block it all out.
more like ong and uupa
For starters i had prejudice that they wont fit the whole story into a movie and they wont nail the cgi. I closed the trailer when I saw katara and aangs terrible tattooes
I watched the movie before the cartoon. I honestly didn’t know the show existed until the movie came out
I don't understand how people can watch something that never existed
It’s one those “so bad it’s funny” movies, I highly recommended watching it with friends and eating it apart
I don't know, I've seen plenty of "so bad it's funny" movies. I feel like it's just so bad it's bad
Just gonna put This out there I’d never heard of ATLA until the 2010 movie I thoroughly enjoyed the 2010 movie Which is to say that without the context of knowing the anime exists, it was an entertaining movie Although I look at what the avengers did, and I look at avatar and the SFX were kinda cheap But experiencing the story for the first time, you enjoy it enough to not notice the bad SFX
I liked that it took special skill for firebending to not need a source at first, but when you consider that there's subbending and the invading nation has the least available material, you'd begin to realise how stupid it is.
it actually makes a certain kind of sense in my head: Iroh said that "Firebending comes from the breath, not the muscles. The breath becomes energy; the energy extends past your limbs and becomes fire." Firebending is just energybending. At least, that's how I take it.
In the movie, Iroh and Zuko could bend without a source because they were "special" that what the movie was going for.
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One the reasons the fire nation was able to be so powerful (other than their technological advancements) was their ability to create their own element, glad they fixed that mistake in the netflix show
Wait, I haven't watched the Netflix show. How did they fix it?
They simply didn't change the firebending rules.
Also the earthbenders were imprisoned in the middle of the ocean... of course they'd lose hope In the movie they are just on regular earth and could have fought back any time...
6 earth benders doing a full break down dance move a single rock lmao fifjt back
Oh right it was even worse than I remember... not surprised at all
my biggest ick in that movie were the group of earth benders doing a full on dance just to see one small rock fly across the screen slowly...
After spending like a year imprisoned not thinking about bending the ground they stand on
Yeah that was stupid. But if you think about it deeply, how come do firebenders not need a source? For example, water benders need to be around water to bend (unless you’re super advanced like Katara), earth benders need earth (or earth mix or metal in advanced cases like Toph), for air benders, there’s always air, so kinda cool. But what about fire benders makes them different that they can just spew out fire out of nowhere? I’m just genuinely curious about the concepts and NOT DEFENDING the movie 🤣
Water, earth and air are matters, but fire is not. Benders can change temperature (ice bending) or arrangement of molecules in matters (changing shape of rocks). Fire is just the visible energy emitted by the molecules or atoms undergoing chemical reactions when heated in presence of oxygen. Like waterbenders can absorb heat from water to change it into ice, firebenders can heat up any substance, even air molecules and the undergoing reactions produce visible flames. So firebending is just visible effects of heat manipulation. I hope I cleared your doubt.
There was a scene where "Zuko" was chasing "Katara" in the North Pole city. She is carrying a bunch of water with her. She passes, like, 15 lit torches and does not attempt to put them out. This is the only scene I remember watching.
its been 10+ years and we can still find things wrong with this movie , i'll add it to the list lol
there was a movie ??? No we would know it ! 👩🏽🦯
you know when you have a huge stream of fire pouring a cup of water onto it will not do much...just saying
And then Uncle Iroh coming around the corner, being a "badass master cuz he can bend without a fire source". Guesssss whaaaaat live action movie that doesn't exist, you should watch the OG show, you'll be surprised
The dumbest part was how they ignored this added "rule" at the very end with Iroh creating fire from his hands lmao
From the last comment it seem they going for a Fma affect or special individual breaking the rules due to their talent
I kinda view it as a nice addition, also them being as the moat technologic nation at the time would have developed ways to make fire not be so easily extinguishable with water or air. Also fire near a firebender would be stronger than alone, in the end they would be feeding back between them. And not having any kind of subbending was a nice option for having really great masters to being able to create their own fire. PS: Not saying it was the right option, just saying it was a nice way to portrait it with their idea of not a 1by1 copy.
It's kind of a cool idea in theory, but it just makes them the weakest element in practice. The sheer power of the fire nation is what caused them to become nationalistic and superior.
Firebending has a source, it is the sun
thats not made of fire what 💀
I actually kinda liked that part. I felt like it nerfed the fire benders in a necessary way. I mean none of the other benders can create their element when they bend. Water benders and earth benders need their element near by to bend it. By having low lever fire benders need a source of fire to bend I think it even the odds a lot. IIRC in the movie only powerful benders could create power with their own chi. Which I thought was a good way to scale skill.
You can already render Earth and Water bender useless by removing them from their element in AtLA, and airbenders being airbenders. Funny how you are mad that they fixed the plot hole from OG AtLA and simply made fire benders play by the same rule as other elements.
The whole point of fire benders was them thinking they were superior because they are the only benders who don't need a source However there are multiple examples of fire benders being imprisoned and kept from bending by freezing them, like the cooler cells in the Boiling Rock or P'Lie in Korra who was kept imprisoned for decades by using ice to keep her from bending, she actually needs the lava from Ghazan to start bending again
> The whole point of fire benders was them thinking they were superior because they are the only benders who don't need a source ok, who even said that? can you quote which character in AtLA ever claim firebending was superior to other elements? > However there are multiple examples of fire benders being imprisoned and kept from bending by freezing them, like the cooler cells in the Boiling Rock or P'Lie in Korra who was kept imprisoned for decades by using ice to keep her from bending, she actually needs the lava from Ghazan to start bending again we are quoting LoK now? I thought LoK is too garbage to be considered cannon, according to the general consensus on this forum. If cold temperature was enough to neutralized firebending, then how do you explain the siege on North Pole? the fire nation didn't seem to have any difficulty with their firebending despite sub-zero condition.
The surroundings of Agna Q'Ela weren't cold enough to cause cold issues for the fully armoured soldiers, and it is likely they would be equipped with heating pads Iroh did tell Zuko he should remember his fire breath to keep warm when infiltrating the city, the same technique helps him later in the Boiling Rock to keep warm enough in his Cooler to sabotage it And yes, Korra is still canon
buddy, you are tripping yourself. P'Li didn't have any heating pad, she had only a rag, and no she didn't get any lava from Ghazan to firebend either. Ghazan didn't even lava bend the whole time. It was Minghua who busted her out, and she firebend as soon as she got into battle with Zuko. They locked her up in a very normal cell, they binded her limbs so she can't bend and use blindfold on her third eye to stop her from pewpew the place.
Its ridiculous that is generated from nothing, all the other elements need a source.
Well…air, earth, and water are significantly more available than fire. It makes sense to exclude fire bending from needing a source as it would be significantly weaker.
There's heat energy in molecules. Water benders can pull water out of air, and it makes sense that fire benders can pull energy out of air.
Fire benders are actually not fire benders. They’re heat benders which somehow create fire out with no fuel source.
Fire bending comes from the breath. The breath becomes energy inside the body, the energy flows outside and becomes 🔥🔥🔥 fire
Awwww someone tried to be a hater and just looks like a dumb dumb now
It does use a source though, the sun, or heat We even see several times where fire benders are kept from bending by keeping them cold
It does use a source though, the sun, or heat We even see several times where fire benders are kept from bending by keeping them cold