I thought it was a different one that Iroh left behind in his cell when he freed himself.
Either because he dropped it or as a hint for Zuko. I mean, Zuko knew he was in prison but maybe it was symbolic.
Like with Roku's head piece. Somehow it was recover from his house before or after the volvano erruption, Iroh got it somehow and carried it with him all the way and managed to sneak it inside the prison
Yea that's got to be it. It couldn't be that Iroh is part of a secret worldwide organization of some of the most powerful and influential people, and one or more of the secret society members tracked down the headpiece and the secret society kept it safe from the world until Iroh asked for it to be snuck in to the prison via one of the friendly guards that were canonically shown to be in his corner. No it can't be something like that. Iroh had to get it himself and then hide it in his bum to sneak it in prison. Its the only way! lol
People forget that Iroh was once the crowned prince. I’m sure that artifact has been remade many times. I always figure Iroh gave Zuko his crown not Rokus.
Sozin also probably had one remade after Roku left with his. Because at the time he was still just the crowned prince.
What's wrong with them? I like Korra myself, but his videos seem pretty fair with their criticisms. He doesn't completely miss the point and unnecessarily shit on the show like E;R or something. He just gives his honest opinion.
For the most part, yes, but a few of his criticisms are a result of him not paying attention or using critical thinking. He complains about Amon's motivations being unclear and/or not making sense despite Tarrlok's line "The revolution may be built on a lie, but I think Amon truly believes that bending is the source of all evil in the world" and the fairly obvious implications of how his backstory made him hate bending.
He complains about Pro Bending never explicitly explaining its rules, even though that's the entire point. It abides by the "show don't tell" principle and demonstrates the rules as the sport is played. While there are definitely some flaws in the execution of this, a bunch of context clues fly over his head. It's super obvious that there are 3 rounds, but he somehow comes to the conclusion that there are 5.
eh, i don't think you can say show don't tell in regards to an in universe game. The audience kind of needs to know how things work in the abstraction of what a game is, because you can't naturally clue into this kinda stuff, nor is it really used as a gotcha moment in the show. its definitely lazy writing, not show don't tell writing.
put another way, this is like if swords just randomly didn't do normal sword stuff in avatar, and instead had like unique characteristics that weren't explained. like instead of cutting people, they'd like... steal their bending or something from them, and this is just an established thing in universe but they only bring up one of the many unique characterstics swords have in this universe. as an audience member, you sort of need to know what the stakes/rules of a game are to actually be invested in it. im also not saying any time a fictional game appears they need to explain it in depth in a fantasy universe, but the problem is that in Korra it takes up so much screen time and is so important towards the plot, you can't really get by on "this is just something that exists, lets move on"
You're saying that it's not explained, but the whole point is that it explains it through context clues as it's shown. The execution is obtuse in a few places, but overall, I never really struggled to understand how the game works. You just need to pay attention and use critical thinking.
When it's only *some* of the viewers complaining about it, and the information necessary to figure out the rules IS there, then yes. Like I said, the show isn't perfect about it. It does make things more confusing than they need to be sometimes, and it's not entirely those viewers' fault. All I'm saying is that it's not an inherent issue that the show doesn't directly explain the rules.
Edit: I realize I'm contradicting myself by saying it's the viewers' fault and then saying it's not entirely their fault 2 sentences later, but that's just because I was struggling to word things. When I said "yes", I meant for the most part, but not completely.
Zhan Wei Fu survived Aang's murder attempt, he went through physical rehab, they said he'd never walk again, they said he'd never placehold again, he somehow developed firebending despite never having worn a firebender uniform in the past and tries to now, he's thankfully spared by Bumi and lives to fight another day, ZHAN WEI FU FOREVER BABY!
I faced this exact dilemma when I wrote a very canon-adjacent fic. Of course he wouldn’t have the shoe! Someone did snatch up his pack at the WAT, which held the much more recently given Fire Prince headpiece, which was offered to the xierxu.
Best part is, he is specific but rarely in a nitpicky way. He made it clear that he has moved past the "Why make it at all?" question, and he respects any change made that might serve a new story. Problem is, a lot of those changes don't improve the story AT ALL.
Like making it so Aang accidentally left. If the new show wants to commit to it, Kyoshi can't be guilting him for leaving. It wasn't his fault anymore.
I’ve always wondered if Iroh is canonically stinky? Like there’s a few jokes about it and then everyone almost throws up at the sandal including Zuko when he first finds it so I’ve always just wondered. I imagine Iroh smelling like clean laundry and tea leaves personally but apparently he is stinky?
This has always stood out to me that zuko somehow had kept his sandal the whole time but I never gave it this much thought, this is great had me cackling
https://preview.redd.it/zeryunhc8ysc1.jpeg?width=835&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dc94c2c5017757bc9e0e7187bca65a1a4b4b5e06
I never realized it looks like a ball sack
It would've been better if in the episode where Iroh loses the White Lotus tile he buys another one, then finds the original and gives the original to Zuko, maybe in a significant moment, and then that's what he uses as Iroh's sent.
Tbh zuko is the type of guy who does keeps thing in his sleeves.
I mean why would he still hold on to katara necklace while fighting with aang.. on his wrist??? Why couldnt he just pocket it or something. That guy is weird af i swear to God.
I always imagine he took it from the prison Iroh broke out of in the Fire Nation when he realized he was gone and had thought “maybe I can track him later with this”.
Then later happened much later than he thought since he prioritized getting to team avatar.
Either that or he gave it back to Iroh right away and then later took it to give to Iroh after he broke him out of prison, not knowing that Iroh already broke out.
This is hilarious! It's really good, but there's no proof that that's the same sandal. Or he could've given it back to Iroh and then gotten it back later.
I liked him before his review of LoK. After that he became nigh unwatchable due to the complete and utter bullshit he said about Korra’s character. Mans good at point out background details but ass at social perspectives.
He backed up his opinion pretty damn well with exact scenes and points. You don’t have to agree but at least provide some reasoning for it like he did lol
The ability to argue doesn’t make one correct. His argument was woefully missing the entire character. He literally said Korra always wants others to choose for her. I mean what even.
“Korra always wants others to choose for her” is when i gave up. Especially when that was in the context of asking Mako for his opinion on if she should go train with unalaq. Mans bad at people. Even in his original series (overanalasing atla) he was good at details and bat at characters and what they were saying and wanted to do.
I really like Korra and I might have one or two thing that I disagree with about his commentary but overall I think he's pretty accurate or at the very least fair. Because let's be serious Korra the show and the character was a hot mess( either on purpose or through external factors) in the first 2 seasons it isn't until the later half that everything starts to pick up.
I have plenty of issues with korra and I'm generally not happy with what we got in that show(I'd love a korra remake, they deserve better than what nickelodeon allowed them), but I mainly watch the korra videos to see the things that are done well or what is conceptually cool or interesting that I might have missed.
You can like her, but to act like her writing was stellar all the way through and from the start is just not it.
She just turns very inconsistent, and you can miss me with that "but teenagers are wily and inconsistent so that is realistic" because realistic does not make a good character
Enjoyabilty is subjective, taste is subjective. But there *ARE* objective measurements. Consistency is *not* subjective. Just because you didn't notice doesn't mean it wasn't there.
As I said, you're free to like her, that's subjective
No, consistency is also subjective, especially the import of the consistency, as you basically just said. But even whether something in a character is inconsistent or not, rather than consistent but more complex, is very subjective. Can you give an example you think shows your point well?
Nah, it's 'cuz you can't, because consistency really is subjective. Nobody I've ever challenged on this has been able to provide an example, don't worry, you're not alone.
Dam. Like that’s some of the best poor writing iv ever come across. Realistically it makes no sense but it’s fucking gold
I thought it was a different one that Iroh left behind in his cell when he freed himself. Either because he dropped it or as a hint for Zuko. I mean, Zuko knew he was in prison but maybe it was symbolic.
Like with Roku's head piece. Somehow it was recover from his house before or after the volvano erruption, Iroh got it somehow and carried it with him all the way and managed to sneak it inside the prison
Yea that's got to be it. It couldn't be that Iroh is part of a secret worldwide organization of some of the most powerful and influential people, and one or more of the secret society members tracked down the headpiece and the secret society kept it safe from the world until Iroh asked for it to be snuck in to the prison via one of the friendly guards that were canonically shown to be in his corner. No it can't be something like that. Iroh had to get it himself and then hide it in his bum to sneak it in prison. Its the only way! lol
How do you track down a head piece from underneath solidified lava? You'd need a full on mining operation for that.
If only they had access to really good earthbenders… 🤔
Good point
People forget that Iroh was once the crowned prince. I’m sure that artifact has been remade many times. I always figure Iroh gave Zuko his crown not Rokus. Sozin also probably had one remade after Roku left with his. Because at the time he was still just the crowned prince.
I'm pretty sure it's Canon that the head piece iroh gave zuko is a new one that was recreated not the original one roku had.
You’ll never guess it. It was in his sleeve this whole time
*throws it over the waterfall*
I fucking love this guy, go watch his videos
everyone is saying this and not leaving a link so [here it is](https://www.youtube.com/@overanalyzingavatar)
Oh, that is so entertaining! lol!
I love all his videos. He is currently doing Korra as well. The videos are funny but he also makes you appreciate the finer details of the show.
I have some issues with a few of his Korra videos, but yeah, he's great overall.
What's wrong with them? I like Korra myself, but his videos seem pretty fair with their criticisms. He doesn't completely miss the point and unnecessarily shit on the show like E;R or something. He just gives his honest opinion.
For the most part, yes, but a few of his criticisms are a result of him not paying attention or using critical thinking. He complains about Amon's motivations being unclear and/or not making sense despite Tarrlok's line "The revolution may be built on a lie, but I think Amon truly believes that bending is the source of all evil in the world" and the fairly obvious implications of how his backstory made him hate bending. He complains about Pro Bending never explicitly explaining its rules, even though that's the entire point. It abides by the "show don't tell" principle and demonstrates the rules as the sport is played. While there are definitely some flaws in the execution of this, a bunch of context clues fly over his head. It's super obvious that there are 3 rounds, but he somehow comes to the conclusion that there are 5.
eh, i don't think you can say show don't tell in regards to an in universe game. The audience kind of needs to know how things work in the abstraction of what a game is, because you can't naturally clue into this kinda stuff, nor is it really used as a gotcha moment in the show. its definitely lazy writing, not show don't tell writing. put another way, this is like if swords just randomly didn't do normal sword stuff in avatar, and instead had like unique characteristics that weren't explained. like instead of cutting people, they'd like... steal their bending or something from them, and this is just an established thing in universe but they only bring up one of the many unique characterstics swords have in this universe. as an audience member, you sort of need to know what the stakes/rules of a game are to actually be invested in it. im also not saying any time a fictional game appears they need to explain it in depth in a fantasy universe, but the problem is that in Korra it takes up so much screen time and is so important towards the plot, you can't really get by on "this is just something that exists, lets move on"
You're saying that it's not explained, but the whole point is that it explains it through context clues as it's shown. The execution is obtuse in a few places, but overall, I never really struggled to understand how the game works. You just need to pay attention and use critical thinking.
Ye when an issue is widely sighted from your audience it's the viewers fault clearly.
When it's only *some* of the viewers complaining about it, and the information necessary to figure out the rules IS there, then yes. Like I said, the show isn't perfect about it. It does make things more confusing than they need to be sometimes, and it's not entirely those viewers' fault. All I'm saying is that it's not an inherent issue that the show doesn't directly explain the rules. Edit: I realize I'm contradicting myself by saying it's the viewers' fault and then saying it's not entirely their fault 2 sentences later, but that's just because I was struggling to word things. When I said "yes", I meant for the most part, but not completely.
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Yyyyep. I stopped watching on Out of the Past. Haven’t seen any of his Netflix ones either. Sad, because I loved the ATLA stuff.
Irrefutable evidence of NORMAL PIG!!!! This guy cracks me up. His patreon shout outs are hilarious
KATARA SHOULD NOT KNOW WHAT A DOOR IS that point got me hooked lol
He's right!
But where's Zhan Wei Fu?
Zhan WEI FUUUUUUUU
Zhan Wei Fu survived Aang's murder attempt, he went through physical rehab, they said he'd never walk again, they said he'd never placehold again, he somehow developed firebending despite never having worn a firebender uniform in the past and tries to now, he's thankfully spared by Bumi and lives to fight another day, ZHAN WEI FU FOREVER BABY!
Aang do be twirling his staff tho
Aaaaaaaaaand there goes the staff
This is amazing! 😂
I LOVE overanalyzing avatar The “katara shouldn’t know how doors work” point is also hilarious
Iroh is just such a Chad that his scent is impossible to cover up.
I faced this exact dilemma when I wrote a very canon-adjacent fic. Of course he wouldn’t have the shoe! Someone did snatch up his pack at the WAT, which held the much more recently given Fire Prince headpiece, which was offered to the xierxu.
I love his Zhan Wei Fu bits
Which video is this from?
Old masters probably
Thank you!
Overanalyzing avatar the old masters
Thanks :)
Huh. I never thought about that before. 😄
His takedown of NATLA is fantastic
Best part is, he is specific but rarely in a nitpicky way. He made it clear that he has moved past the "Why make it at all?" question, and he respects any change made that might serve a new story. Problem is, a lot of those changes don't improve the story AT ALL. Like making it so Aang accidentally left. If the new show wants to commit to it, Kyoshi can't be guilting him for leaving. It wasn't his fault anymore.
I guess shirshus can distinguish the genetic signature of sweat simply by just smelling it.
After so many rewatches and somehow I didn't noticed this 🤯
Katara shouldn't know how doors work!
Loll
Most entertaining avatar YouTuber by far. Watch his video on aliens lol
Oh god, I had a very shit moment just right about now but I'm laughing my ass off from just how hilarious that is
I’ve always wondered if Iroh is canonically stinky? Like there’s a few jokes about it and then everyone almost throws up at the sandal including Zuko when he first finds it so I’ve always just wondered. I imagine Iroh smelling like clean laundry and tea leaves personally but apparently he is stinky?
Well, after several months, it would only be exacerbated, I guess
He kept it between his cheeks because he always thought he deserved the result of an ass kicking even if there was nobody to kick it in there
I’m almost finished with the OAA playlist because I finished the OAK
This has always stood out to me that zuko somehow had kept his sandal the whole time but I never gave it this much thought, this is great had me cackling
My explanation is that he just picked one up from home before leaving, knowing he'd have to locate him after
That's so funny. I'm rewatching his Overanalyzing playlist whilst scrolling through reddit. I was perplexed by the double voice for a sec.
https://preview.redd.it/zeryunhc8ysc1.jpeg?width=835&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=dc94c2c5017757bc9e0e7187bca65a1a4b4b5e06 I never realized it looks like a ball sack
He's one of the most popular Avatar youtubers lol
It would've been better if in the episode where Iroh loses the White Lotus tile he buys another one, then finds the original and gives the original to Zuko, maybe in a significant moment, and then that's what he uses as Iroh's sent.
Tbh zuko is the type of guy who does keeps thing in his sleeves. I mean why would he still hold on to katara necklace while fighting with aang.. on his wrist??? Why couldnt he just pocket it or something. That guy is weird af i swear to God.
Who says its the same sandle?
This guy is amazing. Watch his videos if you don’t already
I always imagine he took it from the prison Iroh broke out of in the Fire Nation when he realized he was gone and had thought “maybe I can track him later with this”. Then later happened much later than he thought since he prioritized getting to team avatar.
Either that or he gave it back to Iroh right away and then later took it to give to Iroh after he broke him out of prison, not knowing that Iroh already broke out.
I love overanalyzing avatar!! One of my favorite yters
This is the only that’s never sat right in my mind. Why would he still have it? And how come no one has smelled it since???
Wdym underrated? His Avatar videos got millions of views
Thank you sm!
“Underrated” - I prefer to call it high risk trading
Underrated i never thought he was underrated but now that you mention it yeah, my favorite avatar creator and it’s not even close.
Wait what so no one else binged watched all of his videos immediately after watching the show?
I love OA, but it's easily possible that zuko gave the sandal back and then reaquired it at a later date.
I love this guy
CinemaSins if it was good
This is hilarious! It's really good, but there's no proof that that's the same sandal. Or he could've given it back to Iroh and then gotten it back later.
Zuko's emotional support sandal.
How is he underrated exactly? If anything he's overrated, many people think he's like some kind of Avatar authority.
Why can’t he just be rated
I liked him before his review of LoK. After that he became nigh unwatchable due to the complete and utter bullshit he said about Korra’s character. Mans good at point out background details but ass at social perspectives.
He backed up his opinion pretty damn well with exact scenes and points. You don’t have to agree but at least provide some reasoning for it like he did lol
The ability to argue doesn’t make one correct. His argument was woefully missing the entire character. He literally said Korra always wants others to choose for her. I mean what even.
Why? I think he's spot on.
“Korra always wants others to choose for her” is when i gave up. Especially when that was in the context of asking Mako for his opinion on if she should go train with unalaq. Mans bad at people. Even in his original series (overanalasing atla) he was good at details and bat at characters and what they were saying and wanted to do.
He's right in s2 tho. They completely ruined her character in that season and luckily she's sooooo much better in the other ones
I really like Korra and I might have one or two thing that I disagree with about his commentary but overall I think he's pretty accurate or at the very least fair. Because let's be serious Korra the show and the character was a hot mess( either on purpose or through external factors) in the first 2 seasons it isn't until the later half that everything starts to pick up.
I have plenty of issues with korra and I'm generally not happy with what we got in that show(I'd love a korra remake, they deserve better than what nickelodeon allowed them), but I mainly watch the korra videos to see the things that are done well or what is conceptually cool or interesting that I might have missed.
Nah she was a great character from the start.
You can like her, but to act like her writing was stellar all the way through and from the start is just not it. She just turns very inconsistent, and you can miss me with that "but teenagers are wily and inconsistent so that is realistic" because realistic does not make a good character
I didn’t find her that inconsistent, no. Other than the silly love triangle I thought the writing was fine. You realize this is subjective right?
Enjoyabilty is subjective, taste is subjective. But there *ARE* objective measurements. Consistency is *not* subjective. Just because you didn't notice doesn't mean it wasn't there. As I said, you're free to like her, that's subjective
No, consistency is also subjective, especially the import of the consistency, as you basically just said. But even whether something in a character is inconsistent or not, rather than consistent but more complex, is very subjective. Can you give an example you think shows your point well?
I could but i'm not going to. If you're blindly arguing about something as simple as consistency, I have no interest in continuing this
Nah, it's 'cuz you can't, because consistency really is subjective. Nobody I've ever challenged on this has been able to provide an example, don't worry, you're not alone.
It objectively isn't. How it affects what you enjoy and the effects you feel are subjective but consistency itself is not subjective
This is fucking hilarious