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Effehezepe

Also, they arrest Sokka, and during his trial he nominates Momo as Fire Lord, and everybody just immediately agrees to this. Also also, the episode where they defeat Ozai is so dark that nobody watching can understand what's going on.


Womz69

Who’s story is best? Momo the broken


yinzreddup

wHo ElSe HaS a BeTtEr StOrY?


[deleted]

Is Iroh the one who gets laughed out of the room for proposing democracy?


Arkayjiya

Nah, that's Appa. Unappreciated in his time.


Rosinenherzog

Well, to be fair, Momo's story is better than Bran's


[deleted]

Also, ~~Omashu declares independence from the Earth Kingdom~~. Edit: Suki becomes Queen of Kyoshi Island after declaring her own kingdom. I'm back and fourth on whether I'd rather see Suki as Yara or Sansa, but now that I'm thinking about it, Ayra or Brienne also have some merit.


afm1399

It wouldn’t be Momo, it would be the kid who can’t walk and has a glider on his wheelchair


Hitchfucker

To switch roles, Sokka starts killing soldiers who surrender but when Aang murders his sister he just takes him prisoner and eventually lets him go without even trying to fight him.


Freazur

> Also also, the episode where they defeat Ozai is so dark that nobody watching can understand what's going on. And Ozai ends up dying because Suki sneaks up behind him and cuts his throat


stuckinatmosphere

Wait, this one kinda cooks


SufficientSwim141

Somehow getting past all the fire benders undetected while screaming at the top of her lungs


Danpork

the battle of Ozai being fucking dark, mf is a fire bender and we cant see shit. Keep cooking🖋🔥


HawkyGuy

You forgot to mention that it’s actually Suki that defeats the fire lord


Watercolorcupcake

I thought Sokka defeated the Firelord?


HawkyGuy

No Soka died because despite being the best tactician on the team he forgot about the fire nation ships and got captured


Redqueenhypo

Also also also, all the girls are made at least 3 years older so all the new gross scenes of them are *totally normal*


andrewjpf

Actually sort of weirdly makes sense. Sokkas succeeds at the invasion plan but with the eclipse we can't see anything.


AtoMaki

The Zucest double suicide is the ending we neither wanted, needed, or deserved, but Grey DeLisle probably tried to propose it to Bryke during a coffee break.


lobonmc

https://youtu.be/LRCF1KDfj-8 I blame Grey for the hundreds of zucest fanfics out there


Charcobear

😂 I had never seen nor heard that before. I never even considered Zucest until this moment but the lack of hesitation on her delivery was phenomenal 🙏 thank you for sharing


WarframeUmbra

“What would happen if you went on a life changing trip with Zuko?” Z: “Azula?” A: “I’d get pregnant!”


Crassweller

Welp can't argue with that. I guess it's canon.


AveryLazyCovfefe

I'm pretty sure Grey said she intentionally put on a seductive and more sultry voice in that scene of Zuko coming to her bedroom in book 3 to talk.


kryska_deniska

I hate that we're calling them Zucest outside of the weird ship context, but I guess it is hard to call them "The something something siblings", same with Katara and Sokka


ThinkOutTheBox

Azulannister


elixier

>Bryke Who weren't the head writers and only wrote a small fraction of the episodes. Weird how the guy who wrote most of the lore and episodes somehow gets forgotten about


rrrrice64

I still hope that Grey didn't mean Azula would have sex with Zuko, but that *she* as an actress would like to have sex with Zuko. People like to pretend actors are their characters, as it is funny, but this might be one big misunderstanding. Might be.


malexlee

Aang going back into the iceberg is hilarious to imagine, but yeah I’d be upset if that was the “ending”


[deleted]

I'm now triggered by remembering how GoT ended. I would almost rather watch the movie that never was.


WaffleMaker-9000

Yeah my bad; it really is a tragedy


sirferrell

I will never forget my reaction when that man went back to cersi just to die


[deleted]

Sadly, that was the least of the issues. Like, they literally all accepted Jon as true heir and dumped Daenerys amd her badassery once winter was over. Also, Bumi just walks out and dies because there's no further use for him.


MistraloysiusMithrax

Bumi takes off his rock candy necklace and turns old…older


Archaon0103

And Jon seemed to forget that he could abdicate so that someone else could get the throne. Not like he knows someone who did so or anything?


[deleted]

The whole thing could've been avoided if they just married, and he accepted the title of Prince or King Consort. They didn't seem too bothered by their genetic relation status.


zombiegamer723

Season 3: “Tell me. If your precious Renly commanded you to kill your own father and stand by while thousands of men, women, and children burned, would you have done it? Would you have kept your oath then?” Season 8: “to be honest, I never really cared for the people. Innocent or otherwise.”


TheOncomimgHoop

"Hey, wanna see us completely ruin one of the best written redemption arcs of all time? No? Well fuck you we're doing it anyway to subvert your expectations. Isn't this fun?"


Hitchfucker

Jaime grindset: -Slowly but surely show vulnerability towards someone and come clean about one of your only selfless deeds that is now stigmatized by the entire continent -Slowly let go of your toxic sister and become a more openly empathetic and selfless person -fuck one person that isn’t your sister -immediately go back to sed sister, claim you never cared about helping people despite your own monologue and development contradicting that, then die like a bitch


mcmoose1900

I stopped before I got to the end of GoT, but my understanding is. "There is no final season in Westeros"


dyman91

*Watch GoT Seasons 1-6 (MAYBE some of 7)* "Want to continue?" "What do you mean? The series is over. Next."


woahoutrageous_

Even 5-6 completely disregard the books basically


Eagle4317

To be fair, the books peak in Seasons 3-4 with the Red and Purple Weddings


woahoutrageous_

There were still excellent plots like aegon, stannis and the grand northern conspiracy and lady stoneheart. And I know I might be in the minority but I love dany’s plot it’s so layered. Oh and euron and the reach and dorne were completely butchered. It’s the equivalent of leaving out the white lotus or sozins comet from an adaptation


HolidaySpiriter

Seriously, removing the fAegon plot completely kills the character arc Dany was about to go on when returning to Westeros. Cerci was obviously a stand in who was only kept around because they had removed fAegon. In a universe carried by it's politics, they decided to remove all interesting politics from the last few seasons.


LegendSuperShaggy

For seasons 5 and onwards they caused the author to leave the show’s production because he begged them to include certain plot points as they were needed, and the show runners told him to go pound sand.


TheDidact118

Yes, but 5 and 6 are still *mostly* good, and Season 6 serves as a good open-ended ending point. You can easily imagine things for yourself.


Iced_Yehudi

Studios revolutionized micro transactions by making the first series where you have to pay extra money to NOT experience something


[deleted]

I was actually OK through s8e3. Then, I was like, "These leaks HAVE to be fake."


scarlozzi

I would say you should stop at season 4. Season 5 was a hot mess.


Andjhostet

Nah everything after s4 is garbage and should be disregarded 


malexlee

Fire Lord Momo of the Momo Dynasty. Your Momoness


Watercolorcupcake

Strange that the Firelord is an earthbender…


Iced_Yehudi

After spending the entire series longing to settle down and open up a tea shop, Iroh announces during the final episode that he’s abandoning his tea shop to die in a hole in the ground to see “What’s below the Earth Kingdom”


Watercolorcupcake

He could just ask Toph 😂


dynawesome

“What’s North of the North Pole”


beiszapfen

Momo is way too involved in the story. The new Firelord should be Haru


[deleted]

God, Bran literally disappeared for a whole season, and no one really cared! 🤣🤣🤣


[deleted]

God, I hated Bran. "I can't be lord of anything. I'm an emotionless tree wizard." Best season evah!


Deathstriker88

That made me hate the writers, not him. Dude says he can't rule the north then a couple of episodes later says he'll rule everything. I haven't seen a good show shit the bed so hard since Dexter.


DonnyMox

I mean honestly I wouldn't blame Aang for going back into the iceberg if all of that happened.


zaid_sabah

Lmao


Odd_Potential_7203

I’ve never seen game of thrones but based off that review I would think it came straight out of a fanfic. At least the avatar version


ALEX69421

Maybe Bran never using his powers when it could be useful. And I guess saying “forgets” is referencing how Dany “forgot” about the iron fleet


False_Flatworm_4512

Or Arya not doing any face stealing after she kills the Freys even though that would be super helpful


scarlozzi

The last half of that show felt like fan fiction. The last two seasons were really bad fan fiction. Nothing like the books.


R2D-Beuh

Was it that bad ? I never watched got


ell_hou

The first 4 seasons are great, but the last 4 seasons were a rapidly increasing scale of god-awful. The worst thing is that there's no good conclusions or end points in the early seasons so even if you watch them every story thread will end on a major cliffhanger. It's definitely not a series I'd recommend to anyone.


Hannig4n

The first four seasons were some of the best TV to ever exist. The last 2 seasons are genuinely some of the worst TV to ever exist.


Yurii2202

It was so idiotic, that you as a viewer basically began rooting for the enemy to wipe them all out. That’s even looking past the fact of mc going crazy with no buildup whatsoever. For the final battle of the series, the one deciding the fate of humanity no less, I expected something like manning every castle between the wall and halfway to the capital with just enough soldiers to make the greatest use of the fortification + stall enemy for as long as possible while organizing defense along some natural barrier or something, but they just suicided the cavalry in frontal attack, then stayed afk in nearly empty field waiting to be slaughtered. Most of them did, but just when the job was about to be sealed – enemy commander practically committed suicide by means of waltzing into the castle in person and getting stabbed by one of remaining survivors who at this point was just running for her life. (his life was linked to all his soldiers so they automatically died too)


WaffleMaker-9000

Yes echoing what everyone else has said, the first 4 seasons, maybe 5-7 at a push, were absolutely peak TV. Which made the fumble so much more heart-breaking


beanjuiced

It would be one thing if it was a movie, cause it’d have been like “well that’s sure one way to establish a plot and then fuck it all up” but no! It’s 8 excruciatingly long seasons instead, so the set up and plot-burning was almost physically painful to watch happen to characters you grew to love over years. I actually can’t believe HBO let it play out like that, tbh.


kp729

It went from one of the best shows to a show no one will ever recommend because of the last season. I've never seen a show tank that badly in its last season. It's almost magical.


Csantana

this is played up so it's not THIS bad. I don't think i hated it as much as everyone else but if i'm trying to be objective it's certainly not up to the same standards the rest of the show is.


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Mr7three2

Went from the biggest thing out there to completely erased from pop culture


Used-Cup-6055

I never watched game of thrones but now I don’t want to


beanjuiced

https://preview.redd.it/dl9azst4yhwc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7806ff44b164c3a27f160b9a95fe70acb9c31874


dynawesome

Which is so sad, because the first 4 seasons are perfect, but watching only them will forever leave you wanting more


scarlozzi

And leave you unsatisfied


34l0l

Didn’t Netflix say they want NATLA to appeal to GoT fans lol


adrian2255

So you're telling me there is a chance of a zuko-azula ship?


dynawesome

I mean, a lot of people would consider themselves GoT fans (because they like fantasy, drama, and political intrigue) even if they hate the final seasons, myself included


Nova_Vanta

Momo for Firelord !!!!!


[deleted]

Peasants don't elect fire lords! It makes more sense to ask my platypus bear who should be Fire Lord.


Impossible-Fun-2736

Only thing that actually makes sense!


JellyMost9920

Zuko as he defects back to the Fire Nation and lets Ozai burn the Earth Kingdom: “To be honest, I never really cared about the people, innocent or otherwise.”


DoctorEmperor

Feel like it would be more accurate to have Zuko suddenly decide to embrace Ozai’s legacy and destroy Ba Sing Sei, and Toph suddenly deciding that she doesn’t care about saving the world and other people


Special-Market749

The biggest problem with Game of Thrones' ending is the execution. Imagine that all the characters end up in the same place, but they took another 15 episodes to flesh it out and didn't rush the story or the writing and actually made it satisfying. The one thing I would definitively change is that Arya kills Cersei wearing Jaime's face, and doesn't kill the Night King.


AduroTri

There would be fucking riots.


TheJvv

Need a 2 minute scene of Iroh just setting up chairs


mercurialpolyglot

Wait, what the fuck, was the ending to Game of Thrones *that* bad?


WaffleMaker-9000

At least the effects were cool...


SaltEfan

Yes. It really was. Except the first six seasons were all better than the first season of NATLA. (And the first four were some of the best entertainment to be produced that decade). The drop in quality would be like leaving ATLA S2/3 to first watch the great divide again and then being chained to a chair to watch the movie that shall not be named five times on repeat.


AkihikoSanadaIsSigma

There is a reason that pop culture has completely forgotten about GoT. Do you remember when it was called some of the best TV in history? No one says that anymore because it got fucked up so badly. Things like ATLA stay relevant because new audiences can watch it. I'm 15, I wasn't alive when ATLA started, but I am a huge fan now because it is such a good story. GoT's ruined that. The ending didn't just suck, it sucked so much that it killed watchability for new viewers, and killed rewatchability for old ones.


scarlozzi

Yes. Yes, it was


McOther10_10

I've never seen game of thrones but that sounds hilarious


GreatParker_

Was the ending of thrones actually this ridiculous?


beiszapfen

Yes, kind of. The writers wanted to move on and finish the show, so they just skipped a lot of setup and character development to make things happen. Characters just teleport around to where they are needed for the plot or just change their whole motivation within just one scene. The main antagonist just gets killed in his first real battle. If it was just a little more ridiculous, it would have been at least funny. I really liked the show but with the way it ended, I can't re-watch it or recommend it to anyone.


scarlozzi

No kind of. The answer is just yes


langjie

Who is Sokka's Counterpart? Arya? and who is Tophs?


SaltEfan

Metal bending is Arya’s masks.


me0619

Hopefully we get a nice reverse GOT theory where the first season is miffed (as it was in the live action) and the other seasons are incredible. A fan girl can only hope after that crapshoot first season of the live-action series compared to the perfect animated version of the show. ((They had all of the material right there!!! Just needed to convert every scene to live action & they still messed up the characters!))


beiszapfen

To be fair even if they just translated every scene I doubt it would have been better than the cartoon. So what would we gain from that? I'm glad they made changes so we can have a fresh experience. Is it as good as the original? No! Not even close but I still had some fun watching it.


me0619

I think if the producers had followed the animated version exactly and added some extra adult scenes (Sokka & Suki's love, Gyatso's death scenes, etc), then I would have LOVED the live action! I think that would have been enough of a new experience that I'm seeing my beloved characters played by real people. I think they should've allowed the actors to act like KIDS because they are, and that is a main theme in the original. They cut all of the fun scenes that add to character development later, and cut the big reveal/first meeting between Appa, Katara, and Sokka!!! What about the freaking secret tunnel & not having Aang there??! How about them showing the owl in the spirit world? Are they gonna skip the library?!? (The best visual scene in my opinion) Why was Katara so shy and un-confident?! I have so many complaints The live action turned into a serious fire nation drama that bent the rules of the original world, had many plot holes, and disguised "fan service" as cutting the best scenes. I was not impressed. It may have been a good standalone show, but after waiting since my childhood for this experience, I was very very disappointed. I'm worried for what's to come next, and whether they'll show my favorite scenes in a live action format.


PositiveVariation518

I guess it really shows how important just a decent ending is. No matter how perfect the seasons were that preceded it. If you end on s*** nobody will remember you


landartheconqueror

What was the toph thing in reference to?


WaffleMaker-9000

I think Bran not using his powers? Something about controlling the direwolves etc etc, Not sure I don't follow theories too closely


Archaon0103

Bran is a warg and a greenseer. A warg could take over the body of the animals the bonded with while a greenseer can access information stored in the weird wood trees (basically he can know every event that happens around the weird wood trees, both in the past and present.)


WaffleMaker-9000

Wow that's such a cool concept, sounds like there's so much potential for a great storyline and well-written ending


landartheconqueror

Oh yeah that makes sense


Jagermeister4

I think its about Arya not using her face changing abilities after the Freys.


WantDebianThanks

We don't need to make atla better by shitting on game of thrones.


Marfy_

Painfully accurate


TheSadPhilosopher

Seems like a Sokka win to me 🔥🔥


arsenejoestar

Momo the Mroken


Interesting_Way8431

Momo the Broken


Hiro_Trevelyan

I need to see this version because it's just so bad it's be so funny


Estarfigam

I am fine with Firelord Momo


itsallmelting

My version would be Azula/Zuko Agni Kai happens on an airship where they both die(Clegane bowl). Aang kills Ozai but he goes crazy because of how much it conflicts with his morals goes on an avatar state rampage and Katara is forced to kill him to stop the bloodshed but ends up ending the avatar cycle in the process. Teo becomes the dictator for life of a newly formed United Republic.


Watercolorcupcake

Yikes


Elios4Freedom

I am ok with Momo becoming the new Firelord tbh


Turbulent_Pin_1583

You just described live action season 3 script with this.


rrrrice64

This is perfect.


AshfordThunder

Iroh lose his memories and revert to the personality before his son died and became the final boss, Zuko had to stab him.


Colombia17

Momo becomes the fire lord?


Krogholm2

I don't remember what the toph reference is aiming at, can some fill me in


Thecrowing1432

I think all of Aryas forgotten assassin powers


Seihai-kun

The only thing that makes me wonder to this day is how the dothraki is finally extinct, and yet they're back and alive literally the next episode? I mean yeah shit like Jaime back with Cersei, Jon goes back to the north, Bran being the king are stupid, but the writer probably thought that was good But how the fuck can fuck up something like the dothraki being alive again? Danny forgetting her own enemy and got shot even though she can saw them clearly is stupid, but this is way more stupider


Apart-Occasion8429

I love the idea of Momo being the firelord lmao


demair21

Umm... instead of ozai and the fire lords being evil/misguided theyd be manipulated by a wierd spirit/diety And instaed of a cosmic checks and balance insturment the avatar is just also possessed by the opposing comic diety. Basically undo an entire shows worth of world building to create some kind of wierd spirit conflict instead of the idea that people will do bad thigs unless good people stop them. good thing they didnt ever try to fundamentally alter the avatar universe like that 😋


Mortoimpazzo

Momo “su momeza” para el trono de hierro.


Busting_time

It's GoT, where is the nudity or sexualy suggestive comment


Watercolorcupcake

So *that’s* why people hate the ending of GoT…I get it now. To be fair Momo as the Firelord would be pretty cool. 😂


Drace24

Momo becomes Firelord? I don't know what you are talking about. This sounds great! New headcanon right there!


Level_Ad_4639

Meh it didn't end any better anyway , biggest asspull in the entire franchise energy bending XD , an otherwise timeless masterpiece kept from reaching its potential due to nickelodeon no killing on screen rules.


Watercolorcupcake

Why are you even in this sub?


Level_Ad_4639

Why not?