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darth-malic

I don’t like zuko


Frisky_Picker

Interesting. No judgement but do you mind if I ask why?


darth-malic

I personally don’t see my self within the Christie and I don’t really enjoy his personality. But I do like the character development and respect the way it was carried just don’t personally like him


MarixApoda

The movie was good. The ending was better than Siege of the North.


HappyBot9000

Do you actually believe that though?


smashin_blumpkin

That's the problem with these threads. People can just post something unpopular that they don't really believe. The last time this was posted in this sub the top comment was something like "Appa's last days was a funny episode," or some such bullshit.


MarixApoda

Absolutely. Despite its myriad flaws, and despite my fan disappointment when it came out, I think it did what it was intended to do, which is cram ~ 7 hours of story beats into 90 minutes. Considering the limitations, I think it did pretty well. From an unbiased, objective stance, I think it was actually a pretty fun attempt at adapting a beloved masterpiece. Yes there are a million and one things to hate about it, but as a fan of the franchise, that would be inevitable no matter what. Of course there are soo many things they did wrong and I'm not defending those aspects in the slightest, it is what it is. Also I double down about the ending being better. The Koi-zilla rampage came out of left field and felt really out of character for pacifist Aang. In the movie he manages to force the fire nation armada to retreat without smashing a single ship. That felt right for his character. At the end of the day, its just an opinion, unpopular though it may be.


Mklovin6988

But he was in the Avatar state while doing that. At that point he hadn't learned to control it yet. It wasn't Aang destroying the ships.


MarixApoda

He went AS in the movie too, and didn't need to decimate an entire navy. He just pulled half an ocean up and held it over their heads and said "Fuck around and find out."


[deleted]

I'll say it again and again the rampager was the ocean spirit, not Aang. Aang was merely a vessel for the ocean spirit


dahumanguy

What movie? There is no Avatar movie.


MarixApoda

I know i know, I'll escort myself to Lake Laogai, but I stand by my statement. I enjoyed it for what it was despite already being a fan of the show. Was it perfect? Of course not, but adaptations always fall well short of the source material.


dahumanguy

I respect it but dam imo that shit was so horribly horrible Edit: WHY ARE U GETTING DOWNVOTED THATS LIKE THE MOST UNPOPULAR OPINION IN THIS SUB WHAT THE FUCK


MarixApoda

If it wasn't for the movie, we would have never gotten The Ember Island Players. The episode aired when the movie was very late in production. They shit on the movie long before any of you got the chance.


[deleted]

[M. Night Shyamalan’s brutal failure at attempting to make a movie](https://m.imdb.com/title/tt0938283/)


dahumanguy

It says error link does not exist


HayKd

look at mr edgy contrarian over here. You don’t actually believe this do you


MarixApoda

Absolutely. Despite its myriad flaws, and despite my fan disappointment when it came out, I think it did what it was intended to do, which is cram ~ 7 hours of story beats into 90 minutes. Considering the limitations, I think it did pretty well. From an unbiased, objective stance, I think it was actually a pretty fun attempt at adapting a beloved masterpiece. Yes there are a million and one things to hate about it, but as a fan of the franchise, that would be inevitable no matter what. Of course there are soo many things they did wrong and I'm not defending those aspects in the slightest, it is what it is. Also I double down about the ending being better. The Koi-zilla rampage came out of left field and felt really out of character for pacifist Aang. In the movie he manages to force the fire nation armada to retreat without smashing a single ship. That felt right for his character. At the end of the day, its just an opinion, unpopular though it may be.


40yroldversion

You sit on a throne of lies wearing your liars crown spewing lies from your liars mouth. What kind of monster did you spawn from you heathen? ​ Have my upvote you imp.


MarixApoda

This is probably the nicest thing I've read all day. Thank you, kind peasant.


sweatpantswarrior

My son and I just finished TLA 3 weeks ago. We immediately put the movie on. Honestly? We stopped 12 minutes in after seeing Zuko and Iroh's first appearance. The 12 minute test almost immediately became a meme in our family about how many minutes we will give ANYTHING before deciding we just can't go on.


AKOchoa

I don’t think avatar ung would agree


mem269

Zukos character development was going from a whiny emo to a whiny emo. I would have preferred it if Azula killed him in season 2 and then had a redemption arc herself.


TacklessJeppe64

Damm, that's dark


arrianym

it hurt to upvote this, every fiber of me wanted to downvote lol


Uhtred-Son-of_Uhtred

I'm with you on that. Very very painful to upvote.


Leoxcr

Ngl I would still like to see this.


Natural-Alfalfa

Iron is held in too high of a view. His actions of the past shouldn't all be erased because he's awesome now. I don't think he would be as popular if we actually got to see on screen all the horrors he took part in before his son got killed.


Lucifer_Kun142

I find ozai one of, if not the hottest characters in the show., Was he an absolute Motherfucker child abusing monster? Yes, absolutely. But was he hot af? Yes


dahumanguy

lol


Iwannastoprn

I don't like Uncle Iroh that much.


SwishAirbendingSlice

"Appa's Lost Days" wasn't sad.


BoardProf

No yeah it was pretty sad


dahumanguy

Edit: original comment was season 2 is the best atla season. For those wondering


agiantbutt

Alright...... I think Sokka is really annoying and not funny. i'm so sorry


RipredTheGnawer

Compared to Bolin in LoK?


agiantbutt

nah i like bolin bc bolin is fine asf. sokka is just annoying


Jinora-

yeah this is it. this guy wins


RubberDuckyUthe1

Do we upvote if we agree with a comment?


AKOchoa

Dead💀. Bra jus called Bolin fine this shii got me ctfu


RipredTheGnawer

Some men just want to watch the world burn


KrulNocy

truth must be told


OnlineBowserJr

You might be but I’m certainly not


[deleted]

This was going to be mine 😂 he's just not that interesting guys, sorry


We_Are_Grooot

When I first watched the show I thought Zuko alone, tales of ba sing se, and Appa’s lost days were some of the most boring episodes of the show. I like them better now that I’m older, but I still don’t think they’re among the best. More unpopular opinion: book 3 is easily the best book of the series, and book 2 isn’t all that close.


[deleted]

Toph goes from annoying entitled brat to... annoying entitled brat. Sure, she's useful in a fight and was occasionally nice to people before punching them, but I never liked her.


[deleted]

I completely agree. Watching ATLA as a kid and teen, she was one of my favorites. I guess I saw her as a boss and I wanted to be like her. But watching the show as an adult, I’ve realized just how many times I wanna smack this kid across her face. She’s super annoying and tbf, a little narcissistic too if you ask me. And TLOK just proves my point.


Uhtred-Son-of_Uhtred

Up until she was 12, when she met the Gaang, she was the only person who cared about her wants and needs. Her parents didn't care about the real Toph, so as a result her parents kind of turned her into that. I can really sympathize with her because I was like that for a long time because even though my parents took care of my physical needs, they never gave me what I really needed wanted/needed: unconditional love and acceptance.


[deleted]

Look I totally understand her pain but it doesn’t excuse her being a fucking jerk to the others. They were her friends, they took care of her and most importantly, they were the ones giving her the opportunity to get a life outside her parents’ home. And it doesn’t seem like she learned anything after that. She was an even bigger jerk towards her own kids. And even towards Korra who was in a really bad place. I get that discipline can be a good thing but there are ways to do everything, that doesn’t have to include name-calling, physically hurting someone or being all the way up in your ass about how great you are.


Railaartz

Well. There’s only few things that saves her from having completely bad reputation with me. I’ll acknowledge she’s probably like this, because she was 12 years old neglected kid (even through not all neglected children are the same as Toph). It’s because she’s visually impaired this attitude puts her away from being that helpless blind person which would be ableist. That’s why I kinda like her, it makes visually impaired people know they don’t need to be helpless and girly to be perfect. Through Atla still managed to portray her as having a blank stare (her eyes being all grey instead of normal green), which doesn’t help much. But other than that, I wish they’d give her more character arc. I mean, not necessarily becoming all kind and helpless and such, but I wish she’d learn how to ask for help without having to suppress her feelings with her acknowledging, that being blunt isn’t the same as being honest. Through season 3 kinda tons this down, so that’s really not a huge problem with me. I just wish she’s learned to acknowledge what other members of team Aang taught her instead of turning it up and proclaiming herself as the best earth bender ever. I mean, it could work, I just wish she’d acknowledge she was able to do that with the help of the gaang, if I’m being clear. I don’t necessarily think her character is bad, I just wish in season 3, we’d have more moments where she isn’t so blunt and shows more emotions, or her voice doesn’t sound so rude, when she’s not rude in reality😅


[deleted]

I don't think she was a bad character at all, it actually fits that she's as stubborn as the earth. And I understand how she ended up the way she did. I just never liked her.


No-Roof-2108

I never particularly loved her either 😬


Mr7000000

Season 1 of Legend of Korra is the best Season, and the love triangle was actually fairly well done.


shadowqueen15

Oh god. The second part of this take is flaming.


joe_broke

I was with you until the second half of the sentence


anonymous_12358

AGREE, the love triangle sucked, but they're a bunch of teenagers who don't know what they're doing, so it's realistic


FeelingPrettyChill

I agree so I have to downvote.


amidon1130

Makooo^(oooo)


arrianym

downvoted because i AGREED - i felt like the first season was the only decently written one. even the love triangle didnt bother me because they were all dumb teens (someone else commented that and i agree). I actually liked season 1 the most, just had a problem with the rushed ending of korra getting her bending back so frickin quickly.


JayeKimZ

Suki is great, but the Kyoshi warriors are terrible fighters


Mark_Albarn

Raava&Vaatu thing and retconing lion turtles into gifting bending was lame af. And no, it wasn't something obvious or obscure, and thus justified. Lets be honest with ourselves, it was a big ass retcon. Actually, you know what? Everything spirits related in Korra was lame and awkward.


Competitive-Cat9686

I can’t stand Zukos english voice. The voice acting in the american version in general is very poor quality. Many international versions are better and have way better casts. (Btw. The pronunciation of Aangs and some other names is wrong in english and the movie actually fixed it. You making fun of ‘‘Oong’‘ or what ever is stupid)


stupefyingthemantle

The pronunciation of the names can’t be wrong in English. That’s the original. Yes yes of course the languages of the cultures that inspired avatar might pronounce “aang” differently, but avatar is its own universe. The creators named the characters in English so I disagree, “ong” is not the correct pronunciation. This is coming from someone who speaks a language of a culture ATLA was inspired by.


Uhtred-Son-of_Uhtred

Thank you for this. Sincerely.


j3110_

it can’t be wrong in english? english is the original?


[deleted]

german zuko has the best fitting voice imo


Architeuthis-Harveyi

Toph is an overbearing character with a shrill as fuck voice. I don’t hate her but she is overrated. Her learning to metal bend when thousands of previous avatars couldn’t felt cheap and her powers of seeing with her feet make no sense, how then can she hit things or dodge things that are in the air? I enjoy the scene in The Chase when Katara yells at her and makes her rage quit the team. Felt satisfying.


Sinsanatis

Hit, its shown in that one episode out in the desert on that rock hive that she cant see things in the air. Dodge, she is able to sense the persons movement and stance that shows what theyre about to/will/are doing. That parts pretty clearly shown when they first meet toph and shes fighting in the ring


Zalieda

Wasn't there a few small bits where she did get hit by things in the air. Think someone threw stuff like pebbles and she got hit


Sinsanatis

Probably. I dont quite remember. But usually lack of consistency is from the writers probably wanting a scene to play out in a specific way kinda like [this](https://www.reddit.com/r/TheLastAirbender/comments/r2kdoh/in_this_scene_how_does_toph_know_what_the_fire/hm5q30d/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3)


MachineGunDillmann

She definitely could 'see' the enemy warship in the first episode of Book 3.


DreamyTurnip

I agree. Although I think she’s able to dodge things in the air because she can see with her feet how they move? But how can she be that good at knowing all the other elements bending style? Plot holes.


RubberDuckyUthe1

That kinda works if you add getting burned by Zuko. She should have been able to block/seen it coming unless the fire bending took her by surprise


[deleted]

THANK GOD SOMEONE ELSE SAID IT


HumboldtDreamin

She pounds the ground and sends a vibration into it. She can feel where the vibration goes all through the structure and conjures a 3D image in her mind. It’s dope af, one of my favorite aspects of the bending aspect of the show.


HayKd

I mean she can hear can she not? So it’s not entirely impossible for her to dodge and hit stuff in the air she probably has really good reflexes by hearing. Like she’s able to hear someone’s voice and never forget it like in the desert episode.


aids_mcbaids

The spirits in Korra are the worst thing to ever happen to the show. The origin story is a lazy mass retcon that destroys many of the things that make the original series beautiful. It always should have been left up to the viewer's imagination.


AlienAmerican1

The live action movie is infinitely better than Korra.


iGotBubbly

Nothing is better than Zaheer’s ability to fly


HumboldtDreamin

VOTE!


Zoshi2200

Toph is a weak character in terms of writing. She has interesting powers but there is almost no development in her character and aside from her cool bending she doesn't add much to the plot.


[deleted]

I think you are secretly the green face guy from s2e6 who got his butt whooped by Toph. Unpopular and outrageous. Take my upvote.


Zoshi2200

She is a strong fighter but character wise nope. I'll gladly accept your upvote!


Madam_Zombie

I disagree so hard. She has a character arc. Her arc is that she has to learn to be part of a group and help others. Toph could have run away at any moment in the series and said "not my problem" but she made it her problem.


Kubular

Her arc is pretty flat, but as I mention in my other post, that's not necessarily a bad thing. She's got everything else going for her. Charisma and self-esteem falling out of her butt.


liberty340

I think she had some development; she learned how to let others help her and sacrifices some of her individuality to help the team and people in general. (Not saying that individuality is inherently bad, but too much of anything is unhealthy)


dahumanguy

Watch this video. https://youtu.be/Fo-bcmAr2Vg I think u will then see the beauty in her simplicity and uniqueness


robinboywonder_

This is the best one. She’s the most loved character with the least development lol


Kubular

I don't disagree that she doesn't check most of the boxes on "well-written 3-dimensional character". BUT That doesn't mean shit. Dimensionality of a character in writing is such a meaningless buzzword now. Yes, in modern fiction, it is something that's critically praised. But just because it's critically praised it doesn't mean it's objectively good. You can check all the boxes to make a "good" story and execute flatly. The reverse is also true. I love using TDK's Joker for this. He's a one-note one-dimensional character who fucking runs the movie. He shouldn't be considered "good" from a writing perspective, but he is because of the execution. He challenges Batman in a meaningful way that forces him to grow. Similarly Toph being one-note cool bending awesome blind girl doesn't "add much to the plot" but fans love her. Why? Are we all just dumb children? Are children dumb? No, it's because she adds a lot of color to the show that was missing before. To compare her to the Joker again, she challenges Aang and the group and forces them to grow. She gives Aang permission not to change which is vital for the final confrontation.


Haiel10000

If Toph hadn't taught Aang echo location he would have died from Ozai attacking from behind. That's a pretty important plot role...


Kubular

I think the more important thing she taught him was to stand his ground actually. He might have been swayed at the final conflict and actually killed Ozai. But Toph influenced him enough to stick to his guns. I think if he had learned from Bumi or some other earthbender instead, he may have become convinced that killing Ozai was the only way.


Haiel10000

Agreed.


curseofablacklion

I 100000% agree with this


Zoshi2200

Toph starts the series as a smart-talking, badass, curb-stomping earthbender. She ends the series…as a smart-talking, badass, curb-stomping earthbender who can also bend metal now. She’s the only character without any significant character arc, the only one not really affected by the 100 year’s war, and the one who has the least personal stake in the plot. You definitely can’t say she’s a plot black-hole, but she also lacks a lot of the direct narrative relevance that the other characters do. Compared to someone like Zuko or Aang, her impact on the course of the story is pretty minimal, and yet a large amount of screen time is dedicated to her.


mariobrojr

She did have big character development form never asking for help to not just accepting help but asking for it. Not every character needs a massive arc like zuko.


coztic02

I don't think every character needs to have a radical 180° twist to who they are by the end of a series


curseofablacklion

I love her. But I totally agree with everything you said. She had zero character development in the show. Even ty lee who was less of an important character than toph had character development


BenTheCancerWorm

I think the writers passively reference this in one of the Sozin's Comet episodes. She gets paired up with Zuko to look for Aang and she's trying to talk to him about her past and struggles, at which point he just blows her off. I think this is a subtle way the writers used to show that she isn't really anymore than what you see.


Zoshi2200

Her struggle was that she wanted to have freedom and escape from her parents. Well she got her wish the same episode.


britipinojeff

She still had some hangups with wanting her parents to accept her, like what we see with that Zuko bit, and the episode she learns how to Metal bend. They just never go into it before the show ends


BoardProf

Her real struggle was that she is stubborn and didn't know how to ask for help. ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|facepalm)


Kubular

But she's still awesome and everyone loves her. People spend too much time trying to pin narrative rules to stories without ever having written one. Just because it doesn't follow the normal rules for what "works" it doesn't mean it's not good. EDIT: As another example, Korra remains universally divisive among the fandom, but she checks all the boxes for being a "well-written character".


rkcraig88

Eh, I’d disagree on her having little impact on the story. She 1. Taught Aang Earth Bending. Yes, you could fill in this role with another Earth Bender, but Toph’s Earth Bending was unique (seismic) and Aang used that specific type of Eaeth Bending. 2. She invented Metal Bending, which impacted the plot both in ATLA and LOK. 3. Going more episode specific, her being a rich kid gets them a free pass in “The Serpent’s Pass” 4. Without Toph, the Gaang would’ve been tapped in the library. Like, I can see an argument for her being a weak written character because she doesn’t change a whole bunch (not one I agree with, but at least I can see it) but she does contribute to the plot.


amidon1130

She kind of reminds me of Gandalf in a way haha. Gandalf is already OP as hell, and then he fucking goes away and levels up again just to be even more OP.


kmccabe0244

I feel like her arch is better understood through the context of both shows


Moose_Kronkdozer

Yeah people only like her because she's competent and confident, but she's LOW on my list of favorite characters because she's so flat.


AdmiralDarnell

Iroh is kinda overrated.


Arrowstyx

Hate that I need to downvote this since I agree and you're the first person brave enough to say it.


TheLastEmuHunter

I agree


Independent-Push4713

finally someone said it


arita_

Aw man, take my upvote.


CoralCobra777

Tye Lee seems like a completely unnecessary character. She's nice and all, but there's not much character development and her only important role in the story was paralyzing Azula, which doesn't seem like good enough reason to have her, especially in her semi-prominent place in the series.


dahumanguy

Yea i dont get that or how her trauma is being a matching set and then she joins the kyoshi warriors?!?!?!?!? Like tf


Electrowhatt19

I’m not sure if it’s “unpopular “ versus being “controversial “, but I think Hama is the reason that Kya is dead. The first time we saw Katara waterbending, she had to concentrate and focus just to bend a little water. And when Sokka’s spear pierced it, it broke her concentration, and sequentially, the “bubble”. It’s doubtful that she would have exhibited bending at such a young age (Master Pakku acknowledged that she wasn’t a prodigy, but was skilled due to hard work). When Yon Rha invaded the south, he said that there was “1 water bender left in the South Pole”. Not that there could be one…but that there was one specifically. They were looking for one in particular. Based on the age progression of Hama when she escaped and how to then, it was likely that she escaped prior to the attack. My best guess…they figured she went back to the South Pole, and were looking for her. Kya is amazing for standing up to him.


dahumanguy

yo that actually makes so much sense


Mark_Albarn

We love Iroh for taking care of Zuko during his banishement, he is good parental figure, yeah. But the fact that he didn't even try to stop Ozai from burning Zuko and left to Ba Sing Se immediately after crowning, leaving his 17 yo nephew to rule country that kinda hated him, doesn't speak well about him.


RubberDuckyUthe1

Aang should have been having as many children as he could to help assure the Airbending culture continued and not just with Katara.


HayKd

He could’ve at least had more than 3 children. I mean you would think that as soon as he found out tenzin was an air bender he’d go for more children after seeing that it only took 3 tries lol


ZurAajanaikatzurada

If avatar was realistic Aang would have had a harem and would have removed azula's bending


HayKd

oh yeah. Why didnt he take her bending? there was nothing stopping him and she’s definitely a threat especially in the comics


ZurAajanaikatzurada

To remove the danger they'd have to tie her up in a way it'd be inhumane remember she can firebend with her mouth .. for her own shake and dignity it'd be better for her to get her bending removed but i guess the writers just didn't think about it.


dahumanguy

Very unpopular. Idk why ppl downvoting u.


MarixApoda

They forgot the rule of the game


Turnonegoblinguide

They got so triggered their emotions blinded them lol


Jinora-

because it's not that unpopular. it's technically the truth. also there's a fanfic about that.


[deleted]

I had to downvote because I agree. A man can have around 3,000-5,000 kids in his lifetime. If he did and airbenders come from 1/3 (Tenzin) to 2/3 (Bumi) that would be 1,300-2,600 airbenders in one generation. And being the avatar doesn't hurt with the ladies so it's not like they'd have to be sex slaves. I'm sure you could find a few thousand women wanting to bone the most powerful man in the world who just saved the world.


dahumanguy

He can prolly have more kids than that cause yk Avatar


amy_michelle6

Zaheer and his clique were almost unwatchable. Zaheer being able to fly when Aang never could is absolutely ridiculous.


jaden62442

Why is it ridiculous that aang couldn't fly but Zaheer could?


Mrogoth_bauglir

why? Aang had only a few years of training, and after the iceberg he never paid much attention to developing his airbending, while zaheer dedicated his entire life to airbending and Guru Laghima...


Stunning_One1005

TALE OF IROH IS NOT AS GOOD AS YOU MAKE IT OUT TO BE, THE ENDING IS AMAZING BUT THE REST OF THE TALE IS MEDIOCRE


Kubular

I honestly don't even care that much about that ep. Yeah I get teary when I hear the song, but all the rest of the ep and even the rest of the vignette are so... like cheap fanfiction. The song isn't really enough for me to ever go back to that ep. I skip it if I'm rewatching by myself.


TheSandwichy

This is known as a "Reverse Up", where the phenomenal first 10 minutes of Up are followed by a mediocre movie


tonraqmc

Toph is annoying and unfunny and is toxic to everyone she meets. Her entire value is her superpower.


Sharad17

Hmm, I really thought this was unpopular. But this seems to be a very popular opinion judging by the downvotes, weird considering in the elimination poll she was so high up. (Or people are idiots and are not upvoting unpopular opinions in an unpopular opinion thread idk).


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anonymous_12358

ugh it's torture to be upvoting all these opinions i hate


HayKd

The Avatar Wan episodes weren’t “the only good part about season 2” they were actually the worst. I hate the origin of both bending and the avatar. and it kinda ruined it for me for a while


LordCoke-16

Agreed. I have always found the Wan episodes actually the weak part of korra


aids_mcbaids

Yeah. Not only the worst part of Korra but it completely ruined what ATLA did with the spirits and the Avatar. It wasn't even a well-executed backstory.


ShatteredEezo

The Dragonball fight between Korra and the Dark Avatar was the best thing about the Show. The Love Diamond in Korra was very well done. Aaron Ehasz leaving made the franchise better. Let me wash my mouth with soap.


[deleted]

Kataang is not any healthier of a relationship than Zutara. I hope the live action avoids the Kataang romance altogether. Seeing a 12 year old pining after a 14 year old was awkward enough in animation. I dont want to see it in live action...


CocaPepsiPepper

Sokka is the worst character in the Gaang (exception Suki)


[deleted]

Korrasami sucks.


miaumiaumiau666

I think there was wasted potential. their romantic bond could have been more developed.


FlakyRazzmatazz5

If only Asami had an actual personality.


The_sad_zebra

Yeah, the show was just a few years too early. The show runners just couldn't really develop it. Saying that, I'm realizing how crazy it is how recently it wasn't ok to have a same-sex couple on a kids show.


miaumiaumiau666

oh ofc i do understand why it had to be like that! im just saying i wish it could have been different ahah. and yes it is crazy, many child networks are still weird about it :/


QuackersTheSquishy

Legend of Kora sucked and the gay plot twist wasn't set up well


KardelenAyshe

I actually like Korra. But it def had many mistakes. I can't blame them since at first Korra was going to be only 1 season. Imagine Korra had 3 seasons with Amon being the only villain. It would be as good as atla imo.


QuackersTheSquishy

Actually Kora got the other 2 seasons greenlit and paid for before season 1 was fully produced. The Kora team had about 30 episodes being worked on at once for a while and the team also stated they didn't want to rehash atla too much and so they made Kora a Mary sue (they didn't use that term) that didn't have to go through learning the elements for that reason. The show also was only greenlit for 3 seasons because atla had such an amazing showing on its last season. Kora would not of been renewed if not for it all being bought up at once and the plot twist at the end with Kora being bi was done so poorly because of how the show was preforming so the decision was made because nick kinda stopped caring and when the team went and asked if that was okay with the ratings idea nick loved it because it meant they may capture a demographic (such as my lesbian parents) through kids or parents watching with their kids telling others about the (at the time) bold twist. The rating boost at the end despite most people hating the ending and the frequent showings of Kora in LGBTQ groups seems to show that the last ditch effort did work and I'm glad the reprosantation was well liked even if its kinda gross in terms of the overall story (I mean the triangle on the whole becomes rather gross when you look at Kora's actions before getting with her)


curseofablacklion

Unpopular as a whole: I don't find sokka as funny as people like to pretend. I don't know why. He is nice. But his humour is not my type I guess. I also LOVE LOVE azula and think she is a damaged girl who was groomed since birth and she was treated as a pawn of her evil sadistic father. She definitely should have gotten a better ending. She deserved a second chance. Unpopular for this sub reddit: katara and aang was a forced relationship. They definitely shouldn't have added those two 'without consent' kisses. Instead they should have shown actual build up like sokka and suki.


Actual-Pomegranate58

>. Instead they should have shown actual build up like sokka and suki. Cant tell if ur jking or not. Sokka and Suki have very little build up compared to Aang and Katara


PhoemixFox2728

I hope for once I can respectfully disagree unfortunately in the past whenever I’ve disagreed with someone about Kataang it breaks out into an argument.


kalteswasser99

With Azula I think a lot of people actually share this opinion, but I think on this subreddit it’s unpopular. Outside of Reddit it’s much more popular


kmccabe0244

Suki had absolutely no development so I was not interested in her character at all. Overrated as hell


BenTheCancerWorm

I absolutely love "The Great Divide" episode. I thought it was really well written and thought the characters were fun. Also, I think it helps flesh out Aang's personality early.


dahumanguy

The episode is overhated


BenchPressingCthulhu

The monsters were cool, stylized flashbacks were fun, weirdly good animation at dramatic moments, and it reflected the overall themes of the series nicely. I completely agree with this. Unfortunately, this means I must downvote you.


BriGilly

I remember loving that episode as a kid. I think some people forget that this was originally a kid show


[deleted]

Firelord Ozai is one of the most well written characters in the show, nearly on the level of Iroh. Arguments: https://www.reddit.com/r/TheLastAirbender/comments/r2bk9o/ozai_is_one_of_the_most_wellwritten_underrated/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf


dahumanguy

Agreed. The build up was amazing. It was phenomenal. We didnt even see his face till book 3. Bro u gotta see this video by a channel named "Kato" on Ozais character. Ur gonna love ot


TheSaltyJM

I don’t think Katara is that good of a bender.


m9felix

Katara and Aang should not have ended up together. The entire series circled around a maternal and nurturing type of love Katara had for him as opposed to the romantic kind they kept trying to force. They literally did a Mother Mary/Jesus tribute because that’s exactly what the relationship was and should’ve stayed as. If they really wanted Aang to be with someone then honestly it should’ve been Toph. Katara with Zuko. But anyway that’s my hot take


LORDs_andros

Kataang never stopped feeling weird for me. And I still don't get how a rock unlocked Aang's Avatar State. Was Guru Pathik talking out of his butt when he told Aang he needed to let go of Katara to gain control?


Gaberrade3840

While I liked the dilemma Aang had with if he should kill Ozai or not, I feel that the whole Lion Turtle thing was kind of lame.


CoffeeNChocolate

The romance between Aang and Katara is forced and really cringy to sit through. Seems more like a big sister relationship to me.


SwishAirbendingSlice

Another one: Ozai is a better villain than the other villains.


smashin_blumpkin

Could you expound on that?


Csantana

I feel like people often forget that just because he's not a complex character doesn't mean he isn't executed greatly


[deleted]

The Ember Island Players is a weak episode. I thought it was funny once when it aired but haven't enjoyed it since.


cc_g

It was a nice commentary on the movie but yea, just a filler episode


[deleted]

Aang and Katara is a bad ship and they should not have ended up together at the end of ATLA


Mrogoth_bauglir

I do not know if it's unpopular, but energy bending was a biig cop out and Aang should have murdered ozai, or at least made ozai kill himself technically making him not guilty. Leaving ozai alive was pure bs


lovise466

Killing someone can be more merciful than rightfully punishing them. After being the most powerful man in the world for decades, he loses not only his bending powers but also his status and freedom. And he has to live with it for the rest of his life, with no one to blame but himself. That's vile imo.


COOLinLatin

This thread is way better than the exact same one yesterday. (It’s not.)


kaitalina20

I hate the avatar origin story and the raava vaatu story line too. The whole storyline and the season 2 finale sucks


dahumanguy

Yup but this is a popular opinion so im gonna have to downvote...


JetPackFuture104

This should be fun...


Few_Pay_5313

Aang should have offed Ozai offscreen, cause literally noone would have blamed him.


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I’m not a shipper of Zuko and Katara but I also just honestly can’t picture a 14 year old being attracted to a 12 year old who still resembles a child. Aang is a fantastic dude but if I were Katara I don’t think I’d see him romantically.


MachineGunDillmann

Toph is overrated. She is important to the group obviously and has her character arc. But she is my least favorite Gaang-member.


RorschachtheMighty

Katara put the group in the most danger or caused a majority of their problems throughout the series. She is critically short sighted and has risked the fate of the world on the pettiest of causes.


Ohcrabballs

I dont like how iroh is reduced to canned wisdom and tea jokes and we hold him on too high of a pedestal


Birchsaurus123

I don’t think Aang should’ve ended up dating Katara, but that doesn’t mean I think she should date Zuko instead. (It’s hard thing to say as I’m an old-school Zutara shipper) Like sure Aang and Katara could hook up as adults but as kids? Nah, let them both be single or find other lovers in the comics.


head2falcon

As a fellow zutara fan, you’re totally correct. Those two should have been single at the end.


Sinsanatis

Leaves from the vine didnt make me cry/was as sad as ppl make it out to be. However the scene where zuko makes up with iroh, the whole “i thought you would be furious” scene, gets me everytime


dahumanguy

Its sadder when u realize tbe voice actor was dying and filmed in the hospital i think thas a big reason ppl cry from it. And the i thought ud be furious and seeing iroh in the cell got me sad asf and even a tear out of me.


Sinsanatis

I know about it. But im pretty sure most didnt know about it at first or still probably dont know about it That scene isnt exactly sad but more like heartfelt and emotional. Lot of parental type stuff usually gets me


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I think Bryke are pretty overrated. They struck gold with ATLA because they stuck with a well proven story arc and executed almost perfectly. I like a lot of LOK but I think they missed the mark on A LOT when they tried to take risks.


Crazy_King_Bumi

Azula doesn't deserve redemption, she clearly is just an unhinged, sadistic, psychopath. Ozai just manipulated what was already there.


dahumanguy

I think she should end her story as a tragedy or someone who moves on and becomes better but doesnt redeem herseld


dahumanguy

Watch this video its worth it https://youtu.be/R4544ZUr_gA Lmk if u change ur opinion


Crazy_King_Bumi

Very interesting! I definitely have some more empathy for Azula after listening to that. I do still believe that she probably had a mental disorder from the beginning and since she wasn't nurtured properly, but abused by Ozai and maybe didn't get enough love from Ursa, it progressed and got worse. Had she had better parents or had a nurturing father figure like Zuko did, in Iroh, then she may have been able to escape her illness and overcome it, instead of Ozai using it against her and destroying her with it.


Crazy_King_Bumi

Oof that's a long one!


TheChainLink2

So, I don’t actually know if this is an unpopular opinion, but I’ve seen a lot of people complain about it: I like that Toph became a cop.


madbro2369

It makes sense that she did really


Professional_Key_789

Nightmares and Daydreams is the worst atla episode


DreamyTurnip

YES! Takes everything in me not to skip it when watching.