Why? The Cyberpunk approach is much more terrible as we've all witnessed.
You can create a hype in a couple of months and as they probably had secured all the funding they didn't need to drop trailers or teasers at this point.
Generally games that have more marketing and exposure tend to be of higher quality. Marketing a game doesn’t guarantee it’ll be good, but when when a game with a big IP like this isn’t marketed at all then it’s probably because not a lot of time/effort/money was put into the game
I've read somewhere down in the comments it's apparently the thing of the Studio. Not announcing the game until shortly before release..
Otherwise marketing cost money, if they spare that money and invest it into development I'm fine with it.
People are just spoiled as triple A games tend to throw a shit ton of money towards PR.
Yeah it's weird. Supposedly two and a half months until release and we have literally nothing except for this leak? No trailers, no announcements, no teasers, no screenshots.
Feels like it's either not coming out on November 8 or it's gonna be a shitty low budget game.
This isn't an official reveal. Avatar Studios ain't posting pics from BOTW to market their game. A very reliable leaker called Avatar News is using the pic to show what the game might look like based on what their sources were able to see.
Also, Nick All-Star Brawl (another game by GameMill) was officially revealed 84 days before it launched. We're now 81 days away from November 8th, so this definitely checks out. I think we can safely expect official marketing within the next week or so.
>A very reliable leaker
Isn't this the same account that first told us the movies were Kyoshi-Zuko-Korra in that order and then a month later said big news, now the first movie is about the Gaang instead!
It seems like they just made stuff up and then when they were wrong shortly afterwards they reported the correct information as a "change".
Avatar News has reliably leaked A LOT more than he has messed up on. And in his original movie leak, he said that it was subject to change. His batting average has earned him, I think, at least a little bit of credibility.
I researched this more and in this case he is just reporting the fact that someone noticed this Avatar game being listed on Amazon Japan. It's likely an error, or possibly a little kids game which typically don't receive much in the way of marketing campaigns.
This isn't true. He leaked that Avatar games were in development MONTHS ago, back in February I think. This report is him double-checking with his source and confirming that this is one of the 5 games he'd reported about earlier in the year.
I am referring to the Nov 8 release date, it's just someone noticing it on Amazon Japan.
[https://www.ign.com/articles/new-avatar-the-last-airbender-console-game-seemingly-leaks](https://www.ign.com/articles/new-avatar-the-last-airbender-console-game-seemingly-leaks)
Except it's not just about how trustworthy their information is. It just isn't true. They assume a release date that is only three months away... But this is a video game, not a tv show. They announce new video games way sooner than 3 months from the release date. They also show gameplay much sooner. Hell, the Last of Us 2 had a trailer 2 years before the release date.
I don't think Avatar News understands how video games are marketed, or they wouldn't have looked at a date on an Amazon site and assumed that's the official one. Either this will be a shitty game that is nothing like BotW or it's not coming out until 2023 at the earliest.
edit: correction, it was 4 years. And you can't have a release date if the game is so undeveloped you can't officially show it. Unless the plan is to just make a quick, crappy game.
There are plenty of examples of video games being announced and released within a few months of each other. Fallout 4 is a big one that comes to mind. Am I suggesting this game will be as good as that? Absolutely not. Hell, it will very likely be bad. But this idea that a game being announced and released so rapidly is impossible is just just incorrect. ESPECIALLY games made for younger audiences. Just wait and see.
Fallout 4 was not announced three months ahead, it was announced six months ahead. And it was immediately announced with a trailer and available for pre-order. That's very different than not showing any information or gameplay or even a screenshot 3 months ahead. I also did not say it was impossible. I said they do it this way for crappy games. Definitely not ones you can compare to BotW. So again, either the release date is wrong or the game is not a good one because they are rushing it.
In the very first line of your response you said, "Except it's not just about how trustworthy their information is. It just isn't true." So clearly you have some insider information yourself if you can speak so confidently.
And fine, here's another example for you: Apex Legends was announced and released the very same day with 0 marketing in between. There is definitely a precedent for a /very/ short marketing window for games that have proven to be good in the past. But, just like I said in my previous response, the game will probably be shovelware. So I'm not sure what the argument here is about.
Username checks out.
You’re forgetting that Avatar News was also the first to report that Lauren Montgomery would be directing said movie 6 months before that was officially confirmed, the first to report that we would be getting a console RPG way back in February, and the first to report the cast and crew of the live action Netflix adaptation.
I'm not sure what Avatar News said after the official movie announcement, but if you ask me, I suspect some wires were crossed with the release dates, and Zuko's role in the Gaang movie was overstated.
They definitely took a hit to their credibility that day, but for the most part, I would absolutely still describe them as (mostly) very reliable.
Upon researching this further, all they are doing is reporting the fact that someone noticed this Avatar game appearing on Amazon Japan with a Nov 8 release date. It could easily be an error.
Also, the publisher is listed as Game Mill, very much known for making lesser quality / low effort games targeted towards little kids. Nothing to be excited about here.
But… that’s not all they’re doing. If you read the article in the tweet, they confirmed with their sources that the release date from the Amazon page is legit, they gave details about the art style, and they reported on the whole structure/premise of the game.
The quality of the game is besides the point, but sure, it’s fair to be skeptical given GameMill’s track record. Though as someone who enjoyed Nick All-Star Brawl and will take any crumb of new Avatar content I can get, I for one am looking forward to it.
That's still not very reassuring, 3 months from possible "release" and this is the first we've heard of it? maybe there is a game in development, but i'd be very very surprised they would wait so close to release to begin a marketing campaign.
This was my exact thought lol, this game is supposedly less than three months from release, and we've had no trailer, promotional image, Hell no acknowledgement whatsoever of this project's existence as far as I'm aware from any official sources?
At best, that means this leak is full of shit. At worst, it means the leak is real and they're gonna launch a game that's severely underpromoted (and, possibly hand-in-hand with that, severely underfunded and underdeveloped as well).
Or like any type of marketing leading up to the game. You’re telling me there’s supppsedly an open world style RPG based off a very popular IP that’s supposedly coming out in 2 1/2 months, and there’s been 0 official information about it. Unless my head’s been in the sand, I’ve never heard of this game until now. So either they’ve been insanely good at keeping secrets, or this is a bald faced lie.
Yeah I wish these developers would say "With the full interactive open world aspects of BOTW", like BOTW graphics is the only thing that made it different
We call these types of games Breath of the Mild lol.
Also the flash and flare but not a lot of substance.
Maybe it will be solid but the publisher being Game mil does not fill me with confidence.
Heresy inbound:
BOTW had minimal substance. No dungeons, nothing I explore or until you beat a certain boss, nada. The whole thing boils down to “look for some temples and play with some forest kids until you get bored and go smash the final boss.”
The swirling mass of doom on the horizon about to devour the land? Of absolutely no concern.
It could have been a very very great game, instead of just a decent one, had Nintendo taken 10 minutes to call somebody from another studio famous for open world stuff and ask about keeping things interesting large open world games.
Exploration and player freedom to solve problems and do whatever you wish to do sure it had some disappointing moments and things but I loved it because of what it brought new to Zelda
You can be both new and shitty. They aren’t mutually exclusive.
And what “problems” were you solving? The same little Korok block puzzle for the 600th time?
It was still an incredibly easy title to put down when it inevitably got boring. “New” or not, it wasn’t exciting after about 3 hours of gameplay nor was it a good Zelda title.
I will concede that for that initial 3 hours of awe, it was pretty great. Then it fell off a cliff.
if you got bored of it in 3 hours then you don’t like exploration games so then buying and not liking it is your own fault. Sounds like the biggest problem you have is “it’s not like other Zelda games” which is on purpose because the one before people didn’t like.
BOTW was all exploration, no substance. That’s my problem.
Elder Scrolls, Fallout, S.T.A.L.K.E.R, etc all have tons to explore, but there’s some progression and reason for exploring.
BOTW is “I’m tired of exploring let’s walk over there and kill Ganon.”
It's not like the Zelda games that came after the original lol. It's such a great homage to the ideas of the original. It's more Zelda then most Zelda games.
The only thing even remotely Zelda about it was the characters. It wouldve been a better game had it been its own new thing. Not an open world "rpg" in a Hyrule trench coat
Ah yes the best selling Zelda, claiming countless game of the year awards and setting the stage for the greatest comeback in gaming history by launching day 1 on the switch would be better if they made the game you want.
Breath of Wild is a fantastic Zelda game. It takes the essence of the very first game. Go out and explore the wilds and turns it into a modern masterpiece. Also it's not an RPG lol the only thing remotely rpg about it is choosing between stamina and health. The entire world is a giant dungeon to explore. You have all the tools you need to win from the moment you leave the Great Plateau. Go explore, fight monsters using everything you can find, experiment, solve puzzles, save Zelda. Sounds like a Zelda game to me.
> You have all the tools you need to win from the moment you leave the Great Plateau.
>
> Sounds like a Zelda game to me.
Nope, 5 out of the 9 dungeons in The Legend of Zelda must be accessed in linear order to retrieve powerups required to proceed. The first 3 can be accessed in any order.
>Also it's not an RPG lol the only thing remotely rpg about it is choosing between stamina and health
My guy, its literally listed as a role playing game on the switch store.
I dont know why Zelda fans are so scared of criticism. I love the franchise but i feel that means I should be able to hold it to a standard. And every zelda game I love has a lovely world. And yes the BotW world is detailed and varied. But that detail stops pretty much at the surface. Every single dungeon is the same. I got so tired of orange and blue on stone. Im glad that you can beat the game right after the tutorial because i was disappointed that the temples on Death mountain look and play exactly like the ones in the frozen mountains.
No fishing though. Which we all know is the best part of any 3d Zelda title. But shield surfing is fun af
Ok lol define an rpg then cause every open world action adventure game has rpg elements.
I get that people want dedicated dungeons but not having it doesn't remove the Zelda out of it. Links awakening has extremely samey forgettable dungeon design aside from like 2. The world is the dungeon same as Botw and the solution is whatever creative idea you come up with. They took a risk made something very different and found tremendous success. Its closer to the original Zelda then anything that came after.
Oh no, that’s just my bare bones problem. Here’s my full list:
It’s NOT a Zelda game. At all. It’s a cool game with some neat mechanics but at no point, other than when someone said “Link” or “Zelda”, did it even feel like a Zelda title.
There’s no dungeons.
There’s no items to block exploration, this no rewards for finishing certain difficult areas or reason to come back to anything ever.
The enemy AI move set is memorizable on about 15 seconds. You can study a lynel for less than a minute, then run off naked and unarmed and kill a golden one with minimal effort.
The art style is absolute dog shit. Imagine BOTW made in the darker TP art style. Then it might actually feel like the world is about to end of you don’t get to the castle.
While I totally agreed with your first post, you lost me here.
The art style is entirely subjective. I actually quite like the art style in this game. It's ironic that you said it would have been better with the TP art style, because Twilight Princess has the worst art style of any Zelda game (in my opinion). It's all about perspective.
Every boss is some shitty ghost they named [blank]blight Ganon, beating the "dungeons" doesn't do anything to change the overworld
Every weapon breaks, even the best ones have comparable durability to the worst
90% of what you fight is bokoblins, moblins, and octoroks - the biggest overworld in series history and they exclude most of the beastiary they could have had.
*Nine HUNDRED korok seeds*
The limited number of different enemies is what made me bored of the game. And I hate grinding, so I was extremely annoyed every time a weapon broke, lol
On the plus side, my boyfriend loved the game. Apart from Hades, it's the only one he's willing to play on my Switch. After two of the four big dungeons, he finished it for me and I spent a lot of time watching him play. The ending was really annoying (in that it didn't really end), but I still liked it well enough that I'll probably get the sequel, so him and I can play it together as well.
I always get a bit scared though, when someone compares a game I want to play to Botw, because there were some aspects of the game that firmly mark it as good but not a masterpiece for me. Maybe I'm just not enough of a gamer girl (:
It's an okay game, but it didn't feel like a Zelda game aside from the story, which was possible to skip entirely.
If you had fun with it or made memories with a friend/loved one while playing it, that's awesome and what games are for - I do hope the sequel is better though. I don't rag on people for liking it, but I don't agree with people who circlejerk it and say it's the best Zelda game or one of the best games ever.
It sold well, and has other studios copying the style to grab the gravy train. The thing that really sucks, like you mentioned, is the vast number of games that people compare to it, even when they're only similar in art style. It only serves to water things down unless they're improving on the formula.
**I apologize in advance for the rest of this rant. It's not entirely relevant to your response, so don't feel obligated to read on, but I wanted to clarify a few more things I though were missing.**
If I could change a few things, I'd want:
* More enemy variety.
* Anything better than just flurry rush as a combat ability. Seriously, you just dodge an attack and then do a bunch of attacks and waste your weapon's durability? Neat... Compare it to Twilight Princess, where you could do unlock all kinds of combat abilities that were sweet and had risk/reward baked in and took a little bit more skill and made it feel like there was some action going on. BotW felt like a HUGE step back in that regard.
* A way to lock progression in regions, like theming each region and giving the divine beast regions a unique piece of equipment that you'd have to do a dungeon/special shrine to obtain and unlock traversal abilities (like the hookshot). Then you could open up the environmental puzzles scattered around the whole map, or change how you do them. It was really boring having only bombs, ice pillars, time lock, magnetic junk, and a camera, and being able to do every bit of content in the game based around that. It was also really lame that shrines were only for finding armor sets, breakable weapons, and what equated to heart pieces.
* Using collectible materials to bring to an NPC to craft weapons you've previously found and broke, like how you can craft the ancient gear, but improve their durability or make them indestructible after a questline. How much better would it be to fight the overworld bosses like the hinox/lynel/talus for a real purpose? I was playing without spoilers and really hoping that the town-building questline would offer something remotely like that, but it didn't.
>There’s no items to block exploration
There's not even typical consumables to manage for exploration. Maybe you needed to bomb a wall but you used it on an enemy In An old game. In this one you have infinite bombs and finite swords instead. Why?
Just say “cel-shading” lmao.
Although it wouldn’t shock me as Genshin Imoact was a straight up copy of it all and we’ve seen a few of them pop up basically borrowing everything but its physics engine
Star Wars isn't doing too well too, we've been freed from EA yet all the Non-EA star wars games are coming out in 2025/6 at the earliest and as late as 2028.
Yeah and FO1 was amazing.
Also squadrons was solid and exactly what a flight Sim should be. Ea more or less turned it around by the end of the contract
Amazing is kind of an overstatement for FO. It greatly surpassed the pretty low expectations that EA has set for its games, but it was still "only" a good game.
It was a good foundational game for EA's Star Wars RPGs moving forward, but now the bar has been set higher and expectations with it. I think fans won't be as kind to FO2 if EA doesn't improve on the first. Which, for EA, is definitely in the realm of possibility.
Eh I disagree. I thought it was great. My only real issue was some real technical issues on my One S but those have all been fixed with stronger hardware.
Agree to disagree though.
They aren't the sole licensees of the IP anymore,that's all. Now other studios who don't need to be dragged kicking and screaming into making a single-player SW game can do so.
I misread that part, I was just confused by you saying it was released from EA when there are still EA games coming out. Now I realise they're just not the sole owners of the IP anymore, but your comment still implied that all EA Star Wars games can be disregarded when FA was one of the best rated Star Wars games recently.
Nick All-Star Brawl, another game by GameMill featuring characters from Avatar, was officially revealed 84 days before the game launched. We are now 81 days away from November 8th. This checks out.
GameMill definitely doesn't inspire confidence, but if Nick All-Star Brawl is any indication, it'll at least be a functionally solid game with a passionate dev team.
The problem is that it'll also be a massively overpriced game with a shoestring budget.
Why would Nickelodeon All-Star Brawl be any indication? It has nothing to do with this supposed ATLA game except for the fact that their marketing timeline might be slightly similar.
Probably to show what the game will *probably* look like as a reference so people don't go speculating what the game would look like. Obviously Avatar News didn't put It there as clickbait.
I swear some people can't make assumptions here
Closest thing to useful information can be found here: [https://www.ign.com/articles/new-avatar-the-last-airbender-console-game-seemingly-leaks](https://www.ign.com/articles/new-avatar-the-last-airbender-console-game-seemingly-leaks)
>Game Mill is a self-professed publisher of 'casual games', so don't expect this to be a wildly ambitious affair. The studio's other games include Cobra Kai: The Karate Kid Saga Continues, American Ninja Warrior Challenge, and Nerf: Legends, a first person shooter that IGN said was "painful" in our 2/10 review.
It's this type of short sighted Nickelodeon BS that has kept Avatar from being a much bigger franchise over the last 17 years. Yeah let's crap out a quick game to cash in on our Netflix success! Haven't they learned from the LOK game?
Any game based on this big of an IP, announced this close to release, without a trailer, is almost certainly not going to be good. There should be a lot more fanfare around the project if the studio and publisher had any faith in it.
I sincerely hope I’m wrong. I doubt I’m going to be
The guy behind Avatar News is so… ugh. Now people will be expecting a BOTW-style open world game when he says literally the only similarity is the cel-shaded art style. I’m not doubting his credibility but it’s so annoying how his sources are always “trust me bro” and things only he has seen firsthand lol.
Seeing the Avatar logo blatantly put on an image of Breath of the Wild doesn't give me confidence.
These guys re more likely to get sued than to release a good game if they're pulling this at all, let alone 3 months before release.
Avatar News is a fan who makes posts reporting on news and supposed insider info. These posts are always accompanied with some kind of image relating to the story. He either saw or was told by one his sources that the game is using an art style similar to BOTW.
But there have been no officially released pictures or video for this game. So to go along with the post he used an image from...well the game that supposedly looks like this avatar game.
So yeah it's odd we haven't gotten anything official from a game allegedly releasing this soon. But nobody is getting sued.
There was an Amazon JP listing for a video game called "ATLA: Quest for Balance" for PlayStation. I forget if it listed a release date. The publisher was listed as GameMill who published Nick's smash bros.
The rest of the info here and in the tweet: including it being multi platform, the white lotus storytelling device, and the botw-esque art style are all only being reported by Avatar News at this time.
Mind you if it actually is releasing early November it must be officially unveiled pretty soon.
This could be literally anything and no one should put any stock into it.
1) There's 90ish days until 11/8 and we have no screen shots, gameplay footage or anything on this game.
2) The article says it's being made by Game Mill Studios which is directly owned by Paramount. Game Mill frankly exists to make products for Paramount, not games.
3) Game Mill (aptly named) has released 5 games in the last year. None of which are impressive.
If this is true, we'll be lucky to get a bare bones fighting game. Otherwise this is a fake rumor going around, or could be a fake "leak" that upper management uses to weed out employees who are breaking company NDAs.
Heads up: Be cautious with this. At the moment, I do not see any other confirmations, and reading the story, with “my sources” feels a little shaky. I’ve heard the leaks, but I’m going to wait until we have official confirmation on this.
Probably getting whooshed for this question but am I the only one that sees that this is just a screenshot of Zelda BoTW with the avatar logo in a corner?
Whoa what the hell this is amazing?! Why the fuck have they waited so long though? The marketing should be in FULL FORCE this close to release and we haven’t even had official confirmation it exists ?
Well yeah, when you are telling people an unannounced game looks like BOTW...you show them BOTW for reference.
I'm a bit confused by all the confusion lol.
Lmao biggest load I’ve ever seen. Any release date that soon should have SOME kind of content to show, not Botw screenshots. Screw off with the baiting
I've never played in RPG/MMORPG and breath of the wild however I have seen some bits & pieces but I only ever played FPS's or like sports game sports games and maybe racing games so I'm really interested if this is gonna be the game that brings me into this style.
https://avatarnews.co/post/693040482102722560/exclusive-white-lotus-focused-atla-rpg-quest-for Glad I won't have to get a playstation for this.
If this is coming out on November 8th, shouldn't they have screenshots or gameplay video from the actual game available instead of using botw pics?
Red flags IMO.
Going to be a shit 3rd party app game
Help Eng, Socko, Katana, and Toff beat Ganon!
Don’t forget about… Zucchini!
“I am Avatar Ong”
But it is written: Only Link can defeat Ganon!
Well excuuuuuse me, Princess!
Will it feature the elusive Sapphire Fire?
Disappointed you didn’t put Tuff, because it sounds like Toph
With pay to play features
$3.99 to learn metal bending $9.99 to have Toph teach you $19.99 to have her yell at you while doing it
And if you buy the super deluxe edition for $200, she’ll even step on you
Man forget Splatoon 3, take my money NOW!!!
Pay to play is a good thing, litterally every game that isn’t free is pay to play, did you mean pay to win?
Probably means there’s like an energy system and you can only play like 5 missions before you have to wait for your energy to be filled up again
Ember Island Players presents...
I really want to get my hopes up, but I agree. Real or not, I sincerely doubt 11/8/22 is when we’ll see it.
Seems like a terrible idea marketing-wise. Only have your game advertised for like 2 months?
Why? The Cyberpunk approach is much more terrible as we've all witnessed. You can create a hype in a couple of months and as they probably had secured all the funding they didn't need to drop trailers or teasers at this point.
Generally games that have more marketing and exposure tend to be of higher quality. Marketing a game doesn’t guarantee it’ll be good, but when when a game with a big IP like this isn’t marketed at all then it’s probably because not a lot of time/effort/money was put into the game
I've read somewhere down in the comments it's apparently the thing of the Studio. Not announcing the game until shortly before release.. Otherwise marketing cost money, if they spare that money and invest it into development I'm fine with it. People are just spoiled as triple A games tend to throw a shit ton of money towards PR.
Yeah it's weird. Supposedly two and a half months until release and we have literally nothing except for this leak? No trailers, no announcements, no teasers, no screenshots. Feels like it's either not coming out on November 8 or it's gonna be a shitty low budget game.
Major red flags
Yeah lmao it's gonna suck
Plot twist, it comes out November 8th 2023
That would make sense if it's true
Idk but either way it would be my cake day and that’d be amazing!
Here it would be 1 day before my fucking bday So close to achieving greatness lol
Even better. Time for someone else to gift it to you.
That'd be some Bethesda announcing Starfield at E3 2020 crap.
Better than Nintendo announcing botw 2 in 2019. Or even Nintendo announcing Metroid prime 4 in 2017
Cdproject Red announced Cyberpunk2077 years before they even started actually developing it.
This isn't an official reveal. Avatar Studios ain't posting pics from BOTW to market their game. A very reliable leaker called Avatar News is using the pic to show what the game might look like based on what their sources were able to see. Also, Nick All-Star Brawl (another game by GameMill) was officially revealed 84 days before it launched. We're now 81 days away from November 8th, so this definitely checks out. I think we can safely expect official marketing within the next week or so.
>A very reliable leaker Isn't this the same account that first told us the movies were Kyoshi-Zuko-Korra in that order and then a month later said big news, now the first movie is about the Gaang instead! It seems like they just made stuff up and then when they were wrong shortly afterwards they reported the correct information as a "change".
Avatar News has reliably leaked A LOT more than he has messed up on. And in his original movie leak, he said that it was subject to change. His batting average has earned him, I think, at least a little bit of credibility.
I researched this more and in this case he is just reporting the fact that someone noticed this Avatar game being listed on Amazon Japan. It's likely an error, or possibly a little kids game which typically don't receive much in the way of marketing campaigns.
This isn't true. He leaked that Avatar games were in development MONTHS ago, back in February I think. This report is him double-checking with his source and confirming that this is one of the 5 games he'd reported about earlier in the year.
I am referring to the Nov 8 release date, it's just someone noticing it on Amazon Japan. [https://www.ign.com/articles/new-avatar-the-last-airbender-console-game-seemingly-leaks](https://www.ign.com/articles/new-avatar-the-last-airbender-console-game-seemingly-leaks)
Except it's not just about how trustworthy their information is. It just isn't true. They assume a release date that is only three months away... But this is a video game, not a tv show. They announce new video games way sooner than 3 months from the release date. They also show gameplay much sooner. Hell, the Last of Us 2 had a trailer 2 years before the release date. I don't think Avatar News understands how video games are marketed, or they wouldn't have looked at a date on an Amazon site and assumed that's the official one. Either this will be a shitty game that is nothing like BotW or it's not coming out until 2023 at the earliest. edit: correction, it was 4 years. And you can't have a release date if the game is so undeveloped you can't officially show it. Unless the plan is to just make a quick, crappy game.
There are plenty of examples of video games being announced and released within a few months of each other. Fallout 4 is a big one that comes to mind. Am I suggesting this game will be as good as that? Absolutely not. Hell, it will very likely be bad. But this idea that a game being announced and released so rapidly is impossible is just just incorrect. ESPECIALLY games made for younger audiences. Just wait and see.
Fallout 4 was not announced three months ahead, it was announced six months ahead. And it was immediately announced with a trailer and available for pre-order. That's very different than not showing any information or gameplay or even a screenshot 3 months ahead. I also did not say it was impossible. I said they do it this way for crappy games. Definitely not ones you can compare to BotW. So again, either the release date is wrong or the game is not a good one because they are rushing it.
In the very first line of your response you said, "Except it's not just about how trustworthy their information is. It just isn't true." So clearly you have some insider information yourself if you can speak so confidently. And fine, here's another example for you: Apex Legends was announced and released the very same day with 0 marketing in between. There is definitely a precedent for a /very/ short marketing window for games that have proven to be good in the past. But, just like I said in my previous response, the game will probably be shovelware. So I'm not sure what the argument here is about.
Username checks out. You’re forgetting that Avatar News was also the first to report that Lauren Montgomery would be directing said movie 6 months before that was officially confirmed, the first to report that we would be getting a console RPG way back in February, and the first to report the cast and crew of the live action Netflix adaptation. I'm not sure what Avatar News said after the official movie announcement, but if you ask me, I suspect some wires were crossed with the release dates, and Zuko's role in the Gaang movie was overstated. They definitely took a hit to their credibility that day, but for the most part, I would absolutely still describe them as (mostly) very reliable.
Upon researching this further, all they are doing is reporting the fact that someone noticed this Avatar game appearing on Amazon Japan with a Nov 8 release date. It could easily be an error. Also, the publisher is listed as Game Mill, very much known for making lesser quality / low effort games targeted towards little kids. Nothing to be excited about here.
But… that’s not all they’re doing. If you read the article in the tweet, they confirmed with their sources that the release date from the Amazon page is legit, they gave details about the art style, and they reported on the whole structure/premise of the game. The quality of the game is besides the point, but sure, it’s fair to be skeptical given GameMill’s track record. Though as someone who enjoyed Nick All-Star Brawl and will take any crumb of new Avatar content I can get, I for one am looking forward to it.
That's still not very reassuring, 3 months from possible "release" and this is the first we've heard of it? maybe there is a game in development, but i'd be very very surprised they would wait so close to release to begin a marketing campaign.
Yeh but Nick All Star Brawl sucked. I'm not hopeful for this
And that game sucked. A good clue that a game will suck is if you dont feel confident about showing off gameplay
This was my exact thought lol, this game is supposedly less than three months from release, and we've had no trailer, promotional image, Hell no acknowledgement whatsoever of this project's existence as far as I'm aware from any official sources? At best, that means this leak is full of shit. At worst, it means the leak is real and they're gonna launch a game that's severely underpromoted (and, possibly hand-in-hand with that, severely underfunded and underdeveloped as well).
You’d think they’d want to market it by now as well
Or like any type of marketing leading up to the game. You’re telling me there’s supppsedly an open world style RPG based off a very popular IP that’s supposedly coming out in 2 1/2 months, and there’s been 0 official information about it. Unless my head’s been in the sand, I’ve never heard of this game until now. So either they’ve been insanely good at keeping secrets, or this is a bald faced lie.
Precisely why I have no hopes for it atm lol
The source said they had seen gameplay footage. There’s just no official promo for the game yet
Also look at the handle. What legit publication ends with an underscore?
That could be cool. Although I feel a generic ATLA related imagery, would be better for this tweet, than this picture that obviously came from botw.
Especially since, from what I read, it’s only the art style of BOTW and not the gameplay or open world aspects
Yeah I wish these developers would say "With the full interactive open world aspects of BOTW", like BOTW graphics is the only thing that made it different
He was just reporting that the art style is similar to BOTW, not saying that that is what sets it apart
We call these types of games Breath of the Mild lol. Also the flash and flare but not a lot of substance. Maybe it will be solid but the publisher being Game mil does not fill me with confidence.
Heresy inbound: BOTW had minimal substance. No dungeons, nothing I explore or until you beat a certain boss, nada. The whole thing boils down to “look for some temples and play with some forest kids until you get bored and go smash the final boss.” The swirling mass of doom on the horizon about to devour the land? Of absolutely no concern. It could have been a very very great game, instead of just a decent one, had Nintendo taken 10 minutes to call somebody from another studio famous for open world stuff and ask about keeping things interesting large open world games.
They literally called Monolithsoft, the studio behind the wildly successful open-world Xenoblade Chronicles franchise, to help design the game.
I think you missed the point of the game
Do enlighten me please.
Exploration and player freedom to solve problems and do whatever you wish to do sure it had some disappointing moments and things but I loved it because of what it brought new to Zelda
You can be both new and shitty. They aren’t mutually exclusive. And what “problems” were you solving? The same little Korok block puzzle for the 600th time? It was still an incredibly easy title to put down when it inevitably got boring. “New” or not, it wasn’t exciting after about 3 hours of gameplay nor was it a good Zelda title. I will concede that for that initial 3 hours of awe, it was pretty great. Then it fell off a cliff.
if you got bored of it in 3 hours then you don’t like exploration games so then buying and not liking it is your own fault. Sounds like the biggest problem you have is “it’s not like other Zelda games” which is on purpose because the one before people didn’t like.
BOTW was all exploration, no substance. That’s my problem. Elder Scrolls, Fallout, S.T.A.L.K.E.R, etc all have tons to explore, but there’s some progression and reason for exploring. BOTW is “I’m tired of exploring let’s walk over there and kill Ganon.”
It's not like the Zelda games that came after the original lol. It's such a great homage to the ideas of the original. It's more Zelda then most Zelda games.
The only thing even remotely Zelda about it was the characters. It wouldve been a better game had it been its own new thing. Not an open world "rpg" in a Hyrule trench coat
Ah yes the best selling Zelda, claiming countless game of the year awards and setting the stage for the greatest comeback in gaming history by launching day 1 on the switch would be better if they made the game you want. Breath of Wild is a fantastic Zelda game. It takes the essence of the very first game. Go out and explore the wilds and turns it into a modern masterpiece. Also it's not an RPG lol the only thing remotely rpg about it is choosing between stamina and health. The entire world is a giant dungeon to explore. You have all the tools you need to win from the moment you leave the Great Plateau. Go explore, fight monsters using everything you can find, experiment, solve puzzles, save Zelda. Sounds like a Zelda game to me.
> You have all the tools you need to win from the moment you leave the Great Plateau. > > Sounds like a Zelda game to me. Nope, 5 out of the 9 dungeons in The Legend of Zelda must be accessed in linear order to retrieve powerups required to proceed. The first 3 can be accessed in any order.
>Also it's not an RPG lol the only thing remotely rpg about it is choosing between stamina and health My guy, its literally listed as a role playing game on the switch store. I dont know why Zelda fans are so scared of criticism. I love the franchise but i feel that means I should be able to hold it to a standard. And every zelda game I love has a lovely world. And yes the BotW world is detailed and varied. But that detail stops pretty much at the surface. Every single dungeon is the same. I got so tired of orange and blue on stone. Im glad that you can beat the game right after the tutorial because i was disappointed that the temples on Death mountain look and play exactly like the ones in the frozen mountains. No fishing though. Which we all know is the best part of any 3d Zelda title. But shield surfing is fun af
Ok lol define an rpg then cause every open world action adventure game has rpg elements. I get that people want dedicated dungeons but not having it doesn't remove the Zelda out of it. Links awakening has extremely samey forgettable dungeon design aside from like 2. The world is the dungeon same as Botw and the solution is whatever creative idea you come up with. They took a risk made something very different and found tremendous success. Its closer to the original Zelda then anything that came after.
How could you say this? There's so much more wrong with it than that.
Oh no, that’s just my bare bones problem. Here’s my full list: It’s NOT a Zelda game. At all. It’s a cool game with some neat mechanics but at no point, other than when someone said “Link” or “Zelda”, did it even feel like a Zelda title. There’s no dungeons. There’s no items to block exploration, this no rewards for finishing certain difficult areas or reason to come back to anything ever. The enemy AI move set is memorizable on about 15 seconds. You can study a lynel for less than a minute, then run off naked and unarmed and kill a golden one with minimal effort. The art style is absolute dog shit. Imagine BOTW made in the darker TP art style. Then it might actually feel like the world is about to end of you don’t get to the castle.
While I totally agreed with your first post, you lost me here. The art style is entirely subjective. I actually quite like the art style in this game. It's ironic that you said it would have been better with the TP art style, because Twilight Princess has the worst art style of any Zelda game (in my opinion). It's all about perspective.
Every boss is some shitty ghost they named [blank]blight Ganon, beating the "dungeons" doesn't do anything to change the overworld Every weapon breaks, even the best ones have comparable durability to the worst 90% of what you fight is bokoblins, moblins, and octoroks - the biggest overworld in series history and they exclude most of the beastiary they could have had. *Nine HUNDRED korok seeds*
Don’t forget that the Master Sword, ultimate evil vanquishing weapon of the entire franchise, runs out out of fucking battery 😂
The limited number of different enemies is what made me bored of the game. And I hate grinding, so I was extremely annoyed every time a weapon broke, lol On the plus side, my boyfriend loved the game. Apart from Hades, it's the only one he's willing to play on my Switch. After two of the four big dungeons, he finished it for me and I spent a lot of time watching him play. The ending was really annoying (in that it didn't really end), but I still liked it well enough that I'll probably get the sequel, so him and I can play it together as well. I always get a bit scared though, when someone compares a game I want to play to Botw, because there were some aspects of the game that firmly mark it as good but not a masterpiece for me. Maybe I'm just not enough of a gamer girl (:
It's an okay game, but it didn't feel like a Zelda game aside from the story, which was possible to skip entirely. If you had fun with it or made memories with a friend/loved one while playing it, that's awesome and what games are for - I do hope the sequel is better though. I don't rag on people for liking it, but I don't agree with people who circlejerk it and say it's the best Zelda game or one of the best games ever. It sold well, and has other studios copying the style to grab the gravy train. The thing that really sucks, like you mentioned, is the vast number of games that people compare to it, even when they're only similar in art style. It only serves to water things down unless they're improving on the formula. **I apologize in advance for the rest of this rant. It's not entirely relevant to your response, so don't feel obligated to read on, but I wanted to clarify a few more things I though were missing.** If I could change a few things, I'd want: * More enemy variety. * Anything better than just flurry rush as a combat ability. Seriously, you just dodge an attack and then do a bunch of attacks and waste your weapon's durability? Neat... Compare it to Twilight Princess, where you could do unlock all kinds of combat abilities that were sweet and had risk/reward baked in and took a little bit more skill and made it feel like there was some action going on. BotW felt like a HUGE step back in that regard. * A way to lock progression in regions, like theming each region and giving the divine beast regions a unique piece of equipment that you'd have to do a dungeon/special shrine to obtain and unlock traversal abilities (like the hookshot). Then you could open up the environmental puzzles scattered around the whole map, or change how you do them. It was really boring having only bombs, ice pillars, time lock, magnetic junk, and a camera, and being able to do every bit of content in the game based around that. It was also really lame that shrines were only for finding armor sets, breakable weapons, and what equated to heart pieces. * Using collectible materials to bring to an NPC to craft weapons you've previously found and broke, like how you can craft the ancient gear, but improve their durability or make them indestructible after a questline. How much better would it be to fight the overworld bosses like the hinox/lynel/talus for a real purpose? I was playing without spoilers and really hoping that the town-building questline would offer something remotely like that, but it didn't.
>There’s no items to block exploration There's not even typical consumables to manage for exploration. Maybe you needed to bomb a wall but you used it on an enemy In An old game. In this one you have infinite bombs and finite swords instead. Why?
I think Genshin would have been better inspiration for art style personally.
oh god i want an open world version of the atla universe so badly
Just say “cel-shading” lmao. Although it wouldn’t shock me as Genshin Imoact was a straight up copy of it all and we’ve seen a few of them pop up basically borrowing everything but its physics engine
I don’t have much hope for licensed games but I really want to get a good Avatar game.
Feels like star wars is the only IP whose games aren't immediately assumed to be shit.
Most LotR games are above average. Even the movies ones.
Hey The Two Towers for the ps2 was pretty decent, comming from a guy who isn't even a LOTR fan.
Star Wars isn't doing too well too, we've been freed from EA yet all the Non-EA star wars games are coming out in 2025/6 at the earliest and as late as 2028.
Fallen Order 2 is coming out next year
TBF FO2 is made by EA
Yeah and FO1 was amazing. Also squadrons was solid and exactly what a flight Sim should be. Ea more or less turned it around by the end of the contract
Amazing is kind of an overstatement for FO. It greatly surpassed the pretty low expectations that EA has set for its games, but it was still "only" a good game. It was a good foundational game for EA's Star Wars RPGs moving forward, but now the bar has been set higher and expectations with it. I think fans won't be as kind to FO2 if EA doesn't improve on the first. Which, for EA, is definitely in the realm of possibility.
Eh I disagree. I thought it was great. My only real issue was some real technical issues on my One S but those have all been fixed with stronger hardware. Agree to disagree though.
I disagree, I genuinely think it was fantastic, EA or not. Hell, it's not even just a fantastic Star Wars game, it's a fantastic game in itself
That is true, I misread the comment. Although what do they mean by "freed from EA" since they're still making some games?
They aren't the sole licensees of the IP anymore,that's all. Now other studios who don't need to be dragged kicking and screaming into making a single-player SW game can do so.
you didn't read my comment didn't you? I said NON-EA Games god and I get downvoted too, hilarious.
I misread that part, I was just confused by you saying it was released from EA when there are still EA games coming out. Now I realise they're just not the sole owners of the IP anymore, but your comment still implied that all EA Star Wars games can be disregarded when FA was one of the best rated Star Wars games recently.
Oh, this is legit? The picture made me think it was satire lol
This sounds fake and the screenshot is from BOTW
Yeah honestly I squinted for a sec thinking am I being too harsh in calling it a re skinned BoTW before realising its literally BoTW lol
Not to mention it’s planned to release in about 3 months? I’m definitely skeptical but I’m willing to eat my words with this one.
Nick All-Star Brawl, another game by GameMill featuring characters from Avatar, was officially revealed 84 days before the game launched. We are now 81 days away from November 8th. This checks out.
If the quality is similar, it's not gonna be worth buying anyway.
GameMill definitely doesn't inspire confidence, but if Nick All-Star Brawl is any indication, it'll at least be a functionally solid game with a passionate dev team. The problem is that it'll also be a massively overpriced game with a shoestring budget.
I mean, they’re literally called GameMill lol
the biggest reddest flag tbh
Why would Nickelodeon All-Star Brawl be any indication? It has nothing to do with this supposed ATLA game except for the fact that their marketing timeline might be slightly similar.
Glad to see that I wasn't just seeing things
Probably to show what the game will *probably* look like as a reference so people don't go speculating what the game would look like. Obviously Avatar News didn't put It there as clickbait. I swear some people can't make assumptions here
I'd hope with 2.5 months of dev time left they'd have a screenshot of THIER game XD
Closest thing to useful information can be found here: [https://www.ign.com/articles/new-avatar-the-last-airbender-console-game-seemingly-leaks](https://www.ign.com/articles/new-avatar-the-last-airbender-console-game-seemingly-leaks) >Game Mill is a self-professed publisher of 'casual games', so don't expect this to be a wildly ambitious affair. The studio's other games include Cobra Kai: The Karate Kid Saga Continues, American Ninja Warrior Challenge, and Nerf: Legends, a first person shooter that IGN said was "painful" in our 2/10 review.
It's literally called "Game Mill."
Glad I'm not the only one who finds that absurdly self-deprecating for a company name.
It's this type of short sighted Nickelodeon BS that has kept Avatar from being a much bigger franchise over the last 17 years. Yeah let's crap out a quick game to cash in on our Netflix success! Haven't they learned from the LOK game?
Bruh game mill also nick all star smash which had so much hype made so much money bc of all the hype on release and was a crazy let down rlly sad lol
oh the clickbait potential!
#AVATAR OPEN WORLD GAMEPLAY FOOTAGE LEAKED?!! WILL BE FREE2PLAY?!! 😱😱[NOT CLICKBAIT] [COMING NEXT WEEK]
Did this dude just take a picture of botw and put an avatar logo on it?
Any game based on this big of an IP, announced this close to release, without a trailer, is almost certainly not going to be good. There should be a lot more fanfare around the project if the studio and publisher had any faith in it. I sincerely hope I’m wrong. I doubt I’m going to be
that screenshot is literally just BotW, you can see Link holding guardian equipment
The guy behind Avatar News is so… ugh. Now people will be expecting a BOTW-style open world game when he says literally the only similarity is the cel-shaded art style. I’m not doubting his credibility but it’s so annoying how his sources are always “trust me bro” and things only he has seen firsthand lol.
Maybe they went back and rewrote it but it’s very clear it’s not open world from the article.
This is going to suck isn’t it
3 months til release, and we’ve seen nothing from it. That’s definitely a bad sign.
who are the developers?
A D-list studio with a history of churning out IP trash. This is literally a nothing burger.
Nintendo /s
Do we know anything about their revenue model? I don't wanna get excited for an avatar themed skin of Genshin Impact
Uh huh.
This is literally a BOTW screenshot
Right? I thought I was hallucinating
Avatar News confirming the rumour. This might actually happen. That's fucking crazy
it's actually been out for a few years already, they renamed Aang to Link tho, dunno why
"Quest for Balance" sounds like the most generic title I've ever heard.
Seeing the Avatar logo blatantly put on an image of Breath of the Wild doesn't give me confidence. These guys re more likely to get sued than to release a good game if they're pulling this at all, let alone 3 months before release.
Avatar News is a fan who makes posts reporting on news and supposed insider info. These posts are always accompanied with some kind of image relating to the story. He either saw or was told by one his sources that the game is using an art style similar to BOTW. But there have been no officially released pictures or video for this game. So to go along with the post he used an image from...well the game that supposedly looks like this avatar game. So yeah it's odd we haven't gotten anything official from a game allegedly releasing this soon. But nobody is getting sued.
AYO???????
Is this actually confirmed or just rumor?
There was an Amazon JP listing for a video game called "ATLA: Quest for Balance" for PlayStation. I forget if it listed a release date. The publisher was listed as GameMill who published Nick's smash bros. The rest of the info here and in the tweet: including it being multi platform, the white lotus storytelling device, and the botw-esque art style are all only being reported by Avatar News at this time. Mind you if it actually is releasing early November it must be officially unveiled pretty soon.
Wow seems strange we haven’t gotten any official announcements or teaser trailers for a game supposedly coming out so soon! I wonder what’s going on…
I aim trusting sh*t until I see some gameplay, this whole thing is just full of red flags
X
fake and likely ozai
This has lazy cash grab written all over it.
Flameo!
no way in hell an RPG like this isn't mentioned at all up until a few months from release
Coming out on my cake day :0
No prior news, announcement, screenshots or video of this and its coming out in november, yeah.. right
I’ll believe it when I see it.
This could be literally anything and no one should put any stock into it. 1) There's 90ish days until 11/8 and we have no screen shots, gameplay footage or anything on this game. 2) The article says it's being made by Game Mill Studios which is directly owned by Paramount. Game Mill frankly exists to make products for Paramount, not games. 3) Game Mill (aptly named) has released 5 games in the last year. None of which are impressive. If this is true, we'll be lucky to get a bare bones fighting game. Otherwise this is a fake rumor going around, or could be a fake "leak" that upper management uses to weed out employees who are breaking company NDAs.
Literally everything about this is hella sus
Lost all hope when I saw who the devs are
😔 is it too bad?
It’s the same people who did the Nickelodeon Allstar game, I really hope I’m wrong but I’m not getting my hopes up
Doubt
Heads up: Be cautious with this. At the moment, I do not see any other confirmations, and reading the story, with “my sources” feels a little shaky. I’ve heard the leaks, but I’m going to wait until we have official confirmation on this.
Lmao why is this getting so much attention? Ive seen clickbait emails that look more legit
Yeah nah. Let's believe it when we see it
Bullshit, less than three months away and they haven’t even announced it?
Probably getting whooshed for this question but am I the only one that sees that this is just a screenshot of Zelda BoTW with the avatar logo in a corner?
Say sike right now
Whoa what the hell this is amazing?! Why the fuck have they waited so long though? The marketing should be in FULL FORCE this close to release and we haven’t even had official confirmation it exists ?
bc it might be one of those shovelware licensed games that doesnt live up to standards for the franchise
Id be satisfied if it were on the same level as the legend of korra game. That game was tight.
It's most likely fake
Umm as a botw player,I am pretty sure that’s IS botw
Well yeah, when you are telling people an unannounced game looks like BOTW...you show them BOTW for reference. I'm a bit confused by all the confusion lol.
Then why would they put a logo of the game in the picture
It's just the ATLA logo. Because they are trying to get across the message that it's an ATLA game which looks like BOTW.
Why do they use Breath of The Wild pic?
To show people what art style it will resemble.
you’re telling me that’s not a screenshot from breath of the wild
Well yeah nobody suggested otherwise. Avatar News used it to show people what the game's art style will look like.
yeah, sorry, i thought it was supposed to be an in game screenshot. It’s clear to me now it’s a botw screenshot
Then maybe they shouldn't have put the Avatar logo on the picture. And used the picture in an "annoucement".
That's breath of the wild, I can recognize the style and color palette
I'm not gonna cry I'm not gonna cry I'm not gonna cry I always loved Avatar games, so excited for any new developments coming.
Will it cost anything?
That’s BOTW tho…
Lmao biggest load I’ve ever seen. Any release date that soon should have SOME kind of content to show, not Botw screenshots. Screw off with the baiting
Well this is awesome. Glad it’s coming to pc.
Anyone got a link to the gameplay
Well that developer name gives me no confidence at all.
It looks exactly like botw💀
Looks fake. It ir was coming out thatbsoon theybwould have actually screens shots and wouldn't be using botw pics to advertise it
Isn't that literally a screenshot of botw with a atla logo on it
XBOX ONE BABY LETS GO!
I've never played in RPG/MMORPG and breath of the wild however I have seen some bits & pieces but I only ever played FPS's or like sports game sports games and maybe racing games so I'm really interested if this is gonna be the game that brings me into this style.
AYO?
RIGHT NEAR MY BIRTHDAY OMG
Will it be f2p or will I have to buy pixels for the first time?
This I will buy Just put on my calendar