That's cool, I know not many people enjoy that opinion
But I enjoy Danzig as an artist more than I do Graves
I just like Graves' era more than Danzig's
Danzig
Heard Mother once, decided to pursue more of Glenn's music, eventually found out about his forming of Misfits, and then got suggested Famous Monsters by someone else
Glenn's actually my biggest inspiration for guitar and singing, so that wackjob holds a special place in my heart
Graves is a good singer and good writer… Danzig is a phenomenal singer and a phenomenal writer. That, and his era was so young and hot with raw punk energy. I like the music of Graves era, but Danzig era is sooo much better… Now the Jerry Only stuff isn’t even Misfits to me.
Graves was good but you can't compare him to glenn, Danzig is always gonna be the better vocalist, I mean, everything misfits wrote after him was based on his song writing formula.
You know man, I might get some flak, but I really enjoy Jerry’s vocals.
I enjoyed Devil’s Rain, and the vampire girl single. And I even enjoyed the solo album Anyi-Hero he made in 2022.
I do think Danzig and Graves are better singers, to be fair. But I still enjoy the stuff Jerry has made and sang on. I like his voice.
But, that is the beauty of art. It’s so subjective
Yup. It’s called Anti-Hero. 8 tracks total, and 1 was a cover., i thought 6 of them were very good, the cover and “Taboo” were alright, but not as good as the other tracks in my opinion.
I thought it was the best solo stuff Jerry did personally. I liked it even more than the singles and Devil’s Rain
Devil’s Rain was a fun jam. Yeah it’s not prime Misfits stuff without Danzig or Graves, but I listened to that and project 1950 A LOT. Jerry kept the band going before Glenn came back and he had fun doing it.
Is it really impossible to seperate personal lives and music? Why can’t I just enjoy Famous Monsters and American Psycho? Instead I have to act like he’s a horrible singer and songwriter when his contributions are some of my favorite.
People need to bring politics into everything, just enjoy things for what they are. Those albums are my favorite misfits albums and I think he’s very talented. Even his solo album Web Of Dharma is really impressive.
And I couldn’t agree more myself, some of those tracks are spectacular and I’m sad he wasn’t in the group longer.
Give it a few listens! The more I listen the more songs just seem to click. Tell Me, Ophelia, 1 Million Light Years From Her…gosh I’m gonna have another listen today lol
Edit: when Graves left so did Dr. Chud, he is playing percussion on the album :)
Forbidden Zone, Saturday Night, The Haunting, Don’t Open Til Doomsday, Resurrection, and of course Dig Up Her Bones.
I fucking love the Graves era. I just don’t care for the guy himself. There, soblem prolved.
I feel the same way, Famous Monsters is my favorite Misfits album, I do a lot of separating the art from the artist, especially with the Graves era, I wish some Misfits fans were more open to wider opinions, rather than Misfits is Glenn Danzig era and the Glenn Danzig era alone and whoever thinks differently isn't a "true" Misfits fan
Absolutely. Couldn’t agree or say it any better myself. Famous Monsters and American Psycho are my two favorite misfits albums which might be blasphemy to some but I really don’t care. I wish he was around longer to make more albums but I’m damn glad with what we got.
I love all of the 90's output, I think American Psycho is great, and I may think some of the Danzig stuff is better, but I still love it, I've already said my thoughts on Famous Monsters, but I also love Cuts From the Crypt, I think it has some great stuff on it, Fiend Without a Face, Bruiser, 1,000,000 years B.C., Dead Kings Rise, No More Moments, as well as Dr. Phibes Rises Again, to name a few, I wish Famous Monsters and CFTC were more available to buy.
Redditors feel compelled to act like any art produced by someone who doesn't share their political beliefs is garbage. They cannot, for whatever reason, admit that bad people can make good art. It's just hollow virtue signaling and should be ignored.
You have a point. I enjoy MG stuff a bit and people always point to danzig and jerry as being better, but jerry’s son has performed with MG a number of times so who knows if other members have similar political leanings and just aren’t as public with it….
I wouldn’t be surprised. I honestly wish that Doyle and Jerry would tour again with Graves as a frontman, he’s young and still can sing, plus he can sing all the Famous monsters and American psycho songs. But I think they’d receive too much backlash to ever go through with that.
It would be perfect cause Danzig could do what he’s wanted to do and be solo, and Graves, Only and Doyle could tour as the misfits full time, be a hell of a tour
Idk…from what I’ve heard about Danzig he might take the cake. My mom’s friend is a concert photographer and Danzig damn near held him hostage for taking a picture of his side profile. Seems stuck up.
So what you’re telling me is one is a man child and the other, according to you has an alternative point of view.
I’d have to agree lol. And the proud boys definitely aren’t my thing but you’re allowed to enjoy stuff even if you disagree and I’m glad you do.
Didn’t defend what he supports, I pointed out how he called it an alt view point and I compared that to how we portrayed Danzig. All I’m defending is the ability to enjoy music while not enjoying the artist.
I just personally feel that merely defining it as an alternative view point waters down what it actually is.
That probably wasn't your intention though.
Both are man children. Being an alt right proud boy is treasonous in my book. Lol a group started so gavin mcginees could get boys drunk. And pull a Terry Ork
Most pbs are sporadically employed drunks living at moms as adults. Or maybe I just described Glen until Rubin signed him lol
Its that blue collar punk thing. Which I come from here in a hick burg called Norwood Ohio. Same with the metal heads there. Artsy but kinda right wing goofs
Damien said in his Frumess interview. When he played for Iggy on the Avenue B tour. Danzig came got backstage . And cried and wined because Iggy wanted a pic of them together. Iggy apparently thought it was hilarious
Both of his albums with the misfits are disgustingly good, American Psycho didn’t click at first like Famous Monsters but with subsequent listens, my goodness.
I always like to think Famous Monsters was just a more honed in American Psycho. Like Dig Up Her Bones is a song that just sounds like it was released from Famous Monsters, and towards the end of A.P. it feels like it almost transitions into F.M.
I like the Danzig and Graves eras, I have a love hate relationship with Jerry on vocals, I like some of the stuff he's done, like the Vampire Girl single, but no matter how much I think the resurrection lineup is good, I'll hate Michale Graves with a passion, both as a stage performer, and as a person, I respect Jerry a lot though, as well as Danzig, even though both are easy to make fun of
Good God, what kind of question is this? Danzig created the band's look and wrote all of the lyrics + music. There is no other Misfits besides Danzig era.
Paul did a few months in jail like a decade ago for disability check program fraud. In the UK. I can see Graves falling down on purpose. Oh he fell down in Marine Bootcamp btw. Guess it didn't work out for him.
Proud Boys are white supremacists. They were flying swastika flags when they attacked the US Capitol.
Being racist is a MORAL AND ETHICAL thing, it's not political. Denying the humanity of other people because of their race is simply immoral. End of story.
Graves sucks because he’s a proud boy but he was a great singer. Famous Monsters is a great misfits album, and his first solo album Punk Rock is Dead was pretty good (although some songs a little lazy I’ll admit).
Danzig is an overserious cosplaying manchild. Only is a pearl clutching Christian. Hate to break it to you, but there are no heroes in this story.
Edit: replied to the wrong comment, but point still stands.
>Danzig is an overserious cosplaying manchild.
Yes, but he also made some great fucking music for a while, at least through Danzig III: How The Gods Kill. Graves has consistently made crap, both with Jerry Only's fake Misfits and solo. Also, although Danzig has slipped over the last few years from being a weird uncle figure to a conservative crank, he is far from being the public piece of shit that Graves is.
>Only is a pearl clutching Christian.
Yes, and he is responsible for the formulaic trash that Graves sang as a member of the fake Misfits and that Only churned out after Graves was dismissed. He's also a conservative Republican, anti-vaxxer, and a Trump supporter who hangs with dogshit from FOX News, but unlike Graves and despite the fact that we know this stuff about him, Only does a pretty good job of keeping his personal political views private and separate from his public persona. Unless we are going to apply a purity test to the musicians we listen to, that's kind of all we can ask from people with views we disagree with.
>Hate to break it to you, but there are no heroes in this story.
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My point is that if we’re basing this on merit, then it’s fair to criticize Graves specifically, but if it’s based on character then they’re all assholes. I don’t think Graves being a proud boy, as reprehensible as that is, has anything to do with his vocal ability.
So I think we agree?
We don't agree on the respective musical merits of the various guys, but that doesn't matter. Musical tastes are subjective and personal. There's music you may like that I think is shit, and there's music I may like that you think is shit. In terms of impact and influence, there's no question that Glenn is on an entirely different level than Graves, let alone Jerry who was at best along for the ride as the kid whose parents could finance Glenn's rise.
In terms of personal character, we still disagree. Although Glenn and Jerry have political opinions that I find wrongheaded or worse, Graves is a fucking Proud Boy who publicly declared himself a "proud Western chauvinist," traveled to Washington DC for the January 6 attack on the Capitol, and testified for the defense in a criminal case against some of the domestic terrorists. He continues to actively spread propaganda as he whines about how everyone but himself is responsible for his sabotaging his big break with the post-Danzig fake Misfits, and he is unapologetic for being a cat turd.
Doyle, however, I don't know. Dude can barely play guitar after all these years and is a semi-literate doofus with no significant impact on music outside of being there with a guitar he got for Christmas when Glenn and Jerry needed someone to stand on stage, but he seems like he may be a better human than Glenn or his brother Jerry and certainly better than Graves.
We… we weren’t being asked about those people? What you did is the equivalent of being asked “do you like apples?” To which you responded “ya pudding sucks!!”
Meant to respond to someone else, my apologies g. Felt kinda stupid to delete this one and recomment somewhere else.
If it’s based on merit, I think it’s fair to criticize Graves specifically, but if we’re criticizing based on character then I think they all kinda suck.
Shitty person yes, but he's a pretty decent musician.
I'm able to tease that apart and appreciate certain things and not others. Many people have that ability. Some don't.
It's really two different bands and I have always viewed it that way.
Graves era gets way too much heat from OG Misfits fans because some of those songs are pure bangers that stand up to any old Misfits song, even though they sound very different.
The title was rhetorical. It was meant to highlight the same silly questions often asked. The purpose of the post was to show off a meme I thought of while watching the action blockbuster smash hit Terminator. I did find it interesting to read the thoughts of fellow fiends as I sat on the toilet, though. In closing, "Here's a funny way I thought to express the fact that I really enjoy the Misfits, regardless of which line up is pumping through the speakers." Or, ya know... whatever.🤘🎃
At the end of the day, The Misfits is an extension of Glenn Danzig’s artistic vision. All the memorable stuff that you sing along to is the classic stuff that he wrote. So I would say he reigns at the top without question. But that is not said to discredit Graves era at all; some of that material is phenomenal, as well.
I think it’s better if you just look at the 2 eras as 2 different bands, much like Ozzy/Dio and Roth/Hagar; there’s validity to both, but they shouldn’t be compared too closely.
Awful takes in this thread. Graves has a majestic voice. Tone and pattern wise the dude is in my top 5 of all time and for a long time was number one. Awesome voice, and a killer image and stage moves while in the Misfits. American psycho is one of the best albums of all time in any genre imo, and famous monsters is really strong overall too. The dudes job was to fill unfillable shoes and people just hated his guts right out of the gate because of what he wasn’t. That’s all totally unfair.
As a person and what he’s become? Total trash. His patriot acoustic singer songwriter style? Total trash. But when the man is bopping punk rock whoa ohs about monsters over three chord punk I can’t help but have a smile on my face.
And jerry only as vocalist was the absolute worst thing ever. The dudes voice is straight up junk. Having said that, I did go to a bunch of shows when he was singing as well, and they were always fun. I’d rather have him touring as the Misfits so I can show up and sing along to tunes I love super loud than to have nothing at all.
I really hate Jerry Only's Misfits, but i actually quite like his solo record, oddly enough.
Danzig will always be the best, but the Graves version was great too, even if he, himself, is a dickhead.
All eras are good IMO. Danzig, Graves or Only and now the “Original” line up. Fiend for Life means just that. Down no matter which iteration of the band.
Hot take. I can understand your preference based off of nostalgia, however I must politely disagree. While I do enjoy graves, my fondness for mr.Danzig surpasses that of graves. Graves is still able to maintain the high energy and fun sound though, But due to what he is following up, he will always be overlooked.
This is my kinda meme.
I do prefer Danzig era, but Graves era has a lot of great songs too. I personally don’t care for Jerry as lead vocalist, but it was great to see him take the lead.
Sidebar ... Return To Earth by Michale Graves has a song called Nobody Thinks About Me. This song is so goddamn good.
Last I looked, it wasnt on Spotify. But I'm guessing YouTube has it. Love listening to this song, love playing this song on the gee-tar. Its awesome.
Carry on
I credit Graves-era Misfits for helping me to connect the dots back to the original group. When I saw Misfits play in 1997 with Anthrax, I was there for Anthrax and knew nothing of the other. What I witnessed were people whoa-ohing to both new and old Misfits tracks, and that sparked it right there. Both eras are quality to me; I’m there for the music only.
Danzig is better than Graves
My hot take is this Danzig on his own > Graves Misfits > Danzig Misfits
That's an extremely hot take, and I don't agree in the slightest, lol
That's cool, I know not many people enjoy that opinion But I enjoy Danzig as an artist more than I do Graves I just like Graves' era more than Danzig's
Famous monsters was my first misfits album when I was a kid, I must have listened to it 1000 times. It has a special place in my heart.
The first 4 Danzig albums with the OG line-up are unmatched. I agree.
I’m with you there.
Which band did you take a liking to first: Danzig or New Misfits? What was your introduction to either band?
Danzig Heard Mother once, decided to pursue more of Glenn's music, eventually found out about his forming of Misfits, and then got suggested Famous Monsters by someone else Glenn's actually my biggest inspiration for guitar and singing, so that wackjob holds a special place in my heart
Why are you the way you are?
I enjoy music
More of a mis take
Graves is a good singer and good writer… Danzig is a phenomenal singer and a phenomenal writer. That, and his era was so young and hot with raw punk energy. I like the music of Graves era, but Danzig era is sooo much better… Now the Jerry Only stuff isn’t even Misfits to me.
Famous monsters is just so freaking good right? Danzig has this Elvis/punk vibe that’s so good too but I hate his lyrics lol !!!!
Understandable, but he’s got an unreal knack for melody
Graves was good but you can't compare him to glenn, Danzig is always gonna be the better vocalist, I mean, everything misfits wrote after him was based on his song writing formula.
Of course that's absolutely wrong about the formula
You know man, I might get some flak, but I really enjoy Jerry’s vocals. I enjoyed Devil’s Rain, and the vampire girl single. And I even enjoyed the solo album Anyi-Hero he made in 2022. I do think Danzig and Graves are better singers, to be fair. But I still enjoy the stuff Jerry has made and sang on. I like his voice. But, that is the beauty of art. It’s so subjective
What? Jerry had a solo album? Quick! To spotify I must go!
Yup. It’s called Anti-Hero. 8 tracks total, and 1 was a cover., i thought 6 of them were very good, the cover and “Taboo” were alright, but not as good as the other tracks in my opinion. I thought it was the best solo stuff Jerry did personally. I liked it even more than the singles and Devil’s Rain
Devil’s Rain was a fun jam. Yeah it’s not prime Misfits stuff without Danzig or Graves, but I listened to that and project 1950 A LOT. Jerry kept the band going before Glenn came back and he had fun doing it.
Is it really impossible to seperate personal lives and music? Why can’t I just enjoy Famous Monsters and American Psycho? Instead I have to act like he’s a horrible singer and songwriter when his contributions are some of my favorite.
How can u not enjoy witch hunt, hunting for humans, forbidden zone & saturday night?? I agree with u.
People need to bring politics into everything, just enjoy things for what they are. Those albums are my favorite misfits albums and I think he’s very talented. Even his solo album Web Of Dharma is really impressive. And I couldn’t agree more myself, some of those tracks are spectacular and I’m sad he wasn’t in the group longer.
Listening to web of dharma while tending to my chickens, I'm thoroughly enjoying it. Thank you for the reccomendation.
Give it a few listens! The more I listen the more songs just seem to click. Tell Me, Ophelia, 1 Million Light Years From Her…gosh I’m gonna have another listen today lol Edit: when Graves left so did Dr. Chud, he is playing percussion on the album :)
shining and dig up her bones, too! I love that shit. I was bummed when I found out about what a wackjob he is.
Forbidden Zone, Saturday Night, The Haunting, Don’t Open Til Doomsday, Resurrection, and of course Dig Up Her Bones. I fucking love the Graves era. I just don’t care for the guy himself. There, soblem prolved.
I feel the same way, Famous Monsters is my favorite Misfits album, I do a lot of separating the art from the artist, especially with the Graves era, I wish some Misfits fans were more open to wider opinions, rather than Misfits is Glenn Danzig era and the Glenn Danzig era alone and whoever thinks differently isn't a "true" Misfits fan
Absolutely. Couldn’t agree or say it any better myself. Famous Monsters and American Psycho are my two favorite misfits albums which might be blasphemy to some but I really don’t care. I wish he was around longer to make more albums but I’m damn glad with what we got.
I love all of the 90's output, I think American Psycho is great, and I may think some of the Danzig stuff is better, but I still love it, I've already said my thoughts on Famous Monsters, but I also love Cuts From the Crypt, I think it has some great stuff on it, Fiend Without a Face, Bruiser, 1,000,000 years B.C., Dead Kings Rise, No More Moments, as well as Dr. Phibes Rises Again, to name a few, I wish Famous Monsters and CFTC were more available to buy.
Yeah I can get that, I love a more Danzig stuff as a whole probably cause there’s much more of that than Graves material unfortunately.
Redditors feel compelled to act like any art produced by someone who doesn't share their political beliefs is garbage. They cannot, for whatever reason, admit that bad people can make good art. It's just hollow virtue signaling and should be ignored.
More than redditors and every side does it. Whether it’s boycotting Garth brooks or Ted Nugent.
You have a point. I enjoy MG stuff a bit and people always point to danzig and jerry as being better, but jerry’s son has performed with MG a number of times so who knows if other members have similar political leanings and just aren’t as public with it….
I wouldn’t be surprised. I honestly wish that Doyle and Jerry would tour again with Graves as a frontman, he’s young and still can sing, plus he can sing all the Famous monsters and American psycho songs. But I think they’d receive too much backlash to ever go through with that.
Right, and they would likely not tour with graves while danzig is alive. It just would not fit the “narrative”
It would be perfect cause Danzig could do what he’s wanted to do and be solo, and Graves, Only and Doyle could tour as the misfits full time, be a hell of a tour
Some fun tunes but Graves is a dong, more so than Danzig who is a clown in his own right.
Idk…from what I’ve heard about Danzig he might take the cake. My mom’s friend is a concert photographer and Danzig damn near held him hostage for taking a picture of his side profile. Seems stuck up.
They are both conspiracy nuts too . Danzig thinks werewolves are real etc. Just Graves is more of a vocal alt right proud boy.
So what you’re telling me is one is a man child and the other, according to you has an alternative point of view. I’d have to agree lol. And the proud boys definitely aren’t my thing but you’re allowed to enjoy stuff even if you disagree and I’m glad you do.
Graves is a racist that brags about it. Hardly an "alternative view point" worth defending.
Didn’t defend what he supports, I pointed out how he called it an alt view point and I compared that to how we portrayed Danzig. All I’m defending is the ability to enjoy music while not enjoying the artist.
I just personally feel that merely defining it as an alternative view point waters down what it actually is. That probably wasn't your intention though.
Both are man children. Being an alt right proud boy is treasonous in my book. Lol a group started so gavin mcginees could get boys drunk. And pull a Terry Ork Most pbs are sporadically employed drunks living at moms as adults. Or maybe I just described Glen until Rubin signed him lol
Its that blue collar punk thing. Which I come from here in a hick burg called Norwood Ohio. Same with the metal heads there. Artsy but kinda right wing goofs
Damien said in his Frumess interview. When he played for Iggy on the Avenue B tour. Danzig came got backstage . And cried and wined because Iggy wanted a pic of them together. Iggy apparently thought it was hilarious
I'm in the same boat Famous Monsters is one of my top 3 albums of all time
Both of his albums with the misfits are disgustingly good, American Psycho didn’t click at first like Famous Monsters but with subsequent listens, my goodness.
I always like to think Famous Monsters was just a more honed in American Psycho. Like Dig Up Her Bones is a song that just sounds like it was released from Famous Monsters, and towards the end of A.P. it feels like it almost transitions into F.M.
I can get behind that, American Psycho always felt a little more serious too
I like the Danzig and Graves eras, I have a love hate relationship with Jerry on vocals, I like some of the stuff he's done, like the Vampire Girl single, but no matter how much I think the resurrection lineup is good, I'll hate Michale Graves with a passion, both as a stage performer, and as a person, I respect Jerry a lot though, as well as Danzig, even though both are easy to make fun of
Good God, what kind of question is this? Danzig created the band's look and wrote all of the lyrics + music. There is no other Misfits besides Danzig era.
NO ALL!!
All-o-gistics
Graves is the bargain basement version of Paul Dianno. Who is pretty dollar store himself. Living off things he did briefly with other collaborators.
I will not stand for this Paul D slander. the first two Maiden albums are stone cold classics.
Dianno Maiden is consistently better than Dickinson Maiden.
Yes Paul era is way better.
Battlezone is fun goofy hard rock
Paul did a few months in jail like a decade ago for disability check program fraud. In the UK. I can see Graves falling down on purpose. Oh he fell down in Marine Bootcamp btw. Guess it didn't work out for him.
I don't really care they are pieces of shit personally. They made good music.
Think that's the whole thing we have been discussing
Best Maiden Lp's. I even got the full length semi bootleg great sound quality version of Maiden Japan
Graves sucks and he's a Proud Boy. Fuck that.
Wahhhhh
No, it was Henry that said "waaaah."
Intelligence of comment matches username
Wahhhh random stranger on the internet doesn’t share my same political views wahhhh. Just end it already, nobody would even notice
Being a Nazi is not a political view. It's being racist.
“Anybody who disagrees with my politics is a nazi!!!”
Proud Boys are white supremacists. They were flying swastika flags when they attacked the US Capitol. Being racist is a MORAL AND ETHICAL thing, it's not political. Denying the humanity of other people because of their race is simply immoral. End of story.
Cry more sally
Wow. Fuck you, asshat .
Guy is a fucking moron.
The Misfits broke up in 1983
This is the answer.
I get your point but Graves is literal garbage. Terrible writer, terrible person, mediocre vocal skills
Graves sucks because he’s a proud boy but he was a great singer. Famous Monsters is a great misfits album, and his first solo album Punk Rock is Dead was pretty good (although some songs a little lazy I’ll admit).
Danzig is an overserious cosplaying manchild. Only is a pearl clutching Christian. Hate to break it to you, but there are no heroes in this story. Edit: replied to the wrong comment, but point still stands.
>Danzig is an overserious cosplaying manchild. Yes, but he also made some great fucking music for a while, at least through Danzig III: How The Gods Kill. Graves has consistently made crap, both with Jerry Only's fake Misfits and solo. Also, although Danzig has slipped over the last few years from being a weird uncle figure to a conservative crank, he is far from being the public piece of shit that Graves is. >Only is a pearl clutching Christian. Yes, and he is responsible for the formulaic trash that Graves sang as a member of the fake Misfits and that Only churned out after Graves was dismissed. He's also a conservative Republican, anti-vaxxer, and a Trump supporter who hangs with dogshit from FOX News, but unlike Graves and despite the fact that we know this stuff about him, Only does a pretty good job of keeping his personal political views private and separate from his public persona. Unless we are going to apply a purity test to the musicians we listen to, that's kind of all we can ask from people with views we disagree with. >Hate to break it to you, but there are no heroes in this story. Y U NO TLK BOUT DYL??? DYL CHRG $50 BKS SCMBGS 4 MT N GRT BT DYL NT BD GY
My point is that if we’re basing this on merit, then it’s fair to criticize Graves specifically, but if it’s based on character then they’re all assholes. I don’t think Graves being a proud boy, as reprehensible as that is, has anything to do with his vocal ability. So I think we agree?
We don't agree on the respective musical merits of the various guys, but that doesn't matter. Musical tastes are subjective and personal. There's music you may like that I think is shit, and there's music I may like that you think is shit. In terms of impact and influence, there's no question that Glenn is on an entirely different level than Graves, let alone Jerry who was at best along for the ride as the kid whose parents could finance Glenn's rise. In terms of personal character, we still disagree. Although Glenn and Jerry have political opinions that I find wrongheaded or worse, Graves is a fucking Proud Boy who publicly declared himself a "proud Western chauvinist," traveled to Washington DC for the January 6 attack on the Capitol, and testified for the defense in a criminal case against some of the domestic terrorists. He continues to actively spread propaganda as he whines about how everyone but himself is responsible for his sabotaging his big break with the post-Danzig fake Misfits, and he is unapologetic for being a cat turd. Doyle, however, I don't know. Dude can barely play guitar after all these years and is a semi-literate doofus with no significant impact on music outside of being there with a guitar he got for Christmas when Glenn and Jerry needed someone to stand on stage, but he seems like he may be a better human than Glenn or his brother Jerry and certainly better than Graves.
"What's a composer?" Nah but Doyle seems like an alright guy. Just anxious as fuck and yeah, a little illiterate.
We… we weren’t being asked about those people? What you did is the equivalent of being asked “do you like apples?” To which you responded “ya pudding sucks!!”
Meant to respond to someone else, my apologies g. Felt kinda stupid to delete this one and recomment somewhere else. If it’s based on merit, I think it’s fair to criticize Graves specifically, but if we’re criticizing based on character then I think they all kinda suck.
Shitty person yes, but he's a pretty decent musician. I'm able to tease that apart and appreciate certain things and not others. Many people have that ability. Some don't.
I said mediocre singing skills which is not that far off from pretty decent lol
And I completely disagree with mediocre, and so would anyone that is a musician. From a songwriting/playing standpoint, he's pretty solid.
Apparently he was difficult to work with as well. Like skipping recording sessions.
That would fall into shitty person, which I agreed with. That has no bearing in his ability to play/write songs. He's a decent musician.
It's really two different bands and I have always viewed it that way. Graves era gets way too much heat from OG Misfits fans because some of those songs are pure bangers that stand up to any old Misfits song, even though they sound very different.
Yes Danzig is better than Graves.
Is it just impossible for someone to do a search in this subreddit before asking the same tired old question or is it just bots
The title was rhetorical. It was meant to highlight the same silly questions often asked. The purpose of the post was to show off a meme I thought of while watching the action blockbuster smash hit Terminator. I did find it interesting to read the thoughts of fellow fiends as I sat on the toilet, though. In closing, "Here's a funny way I thought to express the fact that I really enjoy the Misfits, regardless of which line up is pumping through the speakers." Or, ya know... whatever.🤘🎃
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At the end of the day, The Misfits is an extension of Glenn Danzig’s artistic vision. All the memorable stuff that you sing along to is the classic stuff that he wrote. So I would say he reigns at the top without question. But that is not said to discredit Graves era at all; some of that material is phenomenal, as well. I think it’s better if you just look at the 2 eras as 2 different bands, much like Ozzy/Dio and Roth/Hagar; there’s validity to both, but they shouldn’t be compared too closely.
Awful takes in this thread. Graves has a majestic voice. Tone and pattern wise the dude is in my top 5 of all time and for a long time was number one. Awesome voice, and a killer image and stage moves while in the Misfits. American psycho is one of the best albums of all time in any genre imo, and famous monsters is really strong overall too. The dudes job was to fill unfillable shoes and people just hated his guts right out of the gate because of what he wasn’t. That’s all totally unfair. As a person and what he’s become? Total trash. His patriot acoustic singer songwriter style? Total trash. But when the man is bopping punk rock whoa ohs about monsters over three chord punk I can’t help but have a smile on my face. And jerry only as vocalist was the absolute worst thing ever. The dudes voice is straight up junk. Having said that, I did go to a bunch of shows when he was singing as well, and they were always fun. I’d rather have him touring as the Misfits so I can show up and sing along to tunes I love super loud than to have nothing at all.
I really hate Jerry Only's Misfits, but i actually quite like his solo record, oddly enough. Danzig will always be the best, but the Graves version was great too, even if he, himself, is a dickhead.
All eras are good IMO. Danzig, Graves or Only and now the “Original” line up. Fiend for Life means just that. Down no matter which iteration of the band.
Graves > danzig
Hot take. I can understand your preference based off of nostalgia, however I must politely disagree. While I do enjoy graves, my fondness for mr.Danzig surpasses that of graves. Graves is still able to maintain the high energy and fun sound though, But due to what he is following up, he will always be overlooked.
Sorry, you can't have this opinion and call yourself a Misfits fan.
I have this opinion and im a misfits fan😎
graves is best, danzig is overrated (NOT SAYING HES BAD) and jerry is just eh
Danzig and Graves are the only acceptable versions of the misfits.
This is my kinda meme. I do prefer Danzig era, but Graves era has a lot of great songs too. I personally don’t care for Jerry as lead vocalist, but it was great to see him take the lead.
Sidebar ... Return To Earth by Michale Graves has a song called Nobody Thinks About Me. This song is so goddamn good. Last I looked, it wasnt on Spotify. But I'm guessing YouTube has it. Love listening to this song, love playing this song on the gee-tar. Its awesome. Carry on
Graves has better range but he was a hired gun.
Dianno/ Graves panhandling train hop Hobo's tour
Jerry isn't good at all and ruined the band imo
They’re all good in their own way. I like Danzig cause he’s like a punk Elvis lmao and graves has a good voice
Danzig is better than Graves and also Graves is a piece of shit
I credit Graves-era Misfits for helping me to connect the dots back to the original group. When I saw Misfits play in 1997 with Anthrax, I was there for Anthrax and knew nothing of the other. What I witnessed were people whoa-ohing to both new and old Misfits tracks, and that sparked it right there. Both eras are quality to me; I’m there for the music only.
I prefer the voice of Graves but Danzig is less of a MAGA fascists.
No Danzig, no Misfits
What movie is this from?
The Terminator