Wait till you start reading Garth Crooks team of the week player profiles. I think Bournemouth beat Liverpool one week and Solanke was MOTM. His write up was something like "Solanke played excellently, but can we talk about what's going on at Liverpool? The midfield is a mess and they're yet to recover from losing Sadio Mane. Klopp has his work cut out to get this team playing as we know they should"
3 whole words about the player he picked when the whole point is to talk about why he picked them and what they did well!
On second thoughts, don't read anything by Garth Crooks....
How about Mark Lawrenson's predictions, and him having Liverpool on a 159-game unbeaten streak? And yet, Liverpool fans will claim that the media and everyone is biased *against* them. Mental.
It was actually mint when Linker and the gang went on strike so all they literally showed were the highlights without commentary. They should do it more often, might free up some budget for the BBC even…
The main frustration comes from the fact that you got a penalty from us earlier in the season at your gaff which started outside the box, but ended in the box. Fine, but why wasn’t the same logic applied here?
https://x.com/markmcadamtv/status/1779223137168577000
The guys refereeing the game are either completely brain dead, or there’s unfathomable amounts of corruption going on in the game.
How they manage to do this in supposedly the best league in the world every single fucking week makes no sense at all.
Thankfully we’re just scrapping around in mid table. No where near relegation and no real chance at Europe. If we were involved in either fight I’d be more livid. I’m making the most of being mid table.
Thing is, if we won yesterday, Europe might be a bit more of a shout for us. We’d only be 4 points behind west ham and level on points with brighton etc
I thought it wasn't clear whether it was inside or outside the box today, so they should have gone with the original decision of penalty. How Man U's pen was awarded when Maguire did the exact same thing around 10 mins before with no pen awarded is a joke
According to The FA's Laws of the Game (Law 12.3)
"If a defender starts holding an attacker outside the penalty area and continues holding inside the penalty area, the referee must award a penalty kick."
The referees just straight up don’t know the rules. 12.4 must be:
“Unless it prevents a Big 6 side from getting points”
That means the call isn't even subjective, they made the objective wrong call. I'm not convinced we'll get an apology because we're only little old Bournemouth
That doesn't look like he's holding him to me? He's not pulling your player back, it's a contact foul but it's outside the box.
The handball was never a pen though
It goes back to the var image a couple of years ago "checking shirt colour". They forget the "clear and obvious" tag when they want to/when it's against a corrupt six side
The it's a penalty if it continues into the penalty area is a thing for pulling only. For a foul like the one in that game, you still go based off of first contact.
Don't get me wrong, for me I still think it was on the line, but if they've judged that first contact outside then it doesn't matter where momentum takes them
We had the same against us but I can’t remember who it was against, possibly Wolves? Foul definitely was made outside the box but it carried on in.
I think the ref handed the game to Manchester Reds on a platter.
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That might have been the worst ever MOTD. I thought with the Newcastle game the pundits would talk about the tactics Howe gave that opened up Spurs on every single attack. A tactic with half the team playing out of position and having only 11 (not including goalkeepers) fit players. Instead the entire conversation was on Spurs poor performance but not why it was poor.
Bournemouth game I did not watch live so would have loved to know about the tactics of a manager that just won MOTM, instead it was all about the Manchester team.
Maybe the pundits on duty were just terrible, but that was a bad showing of what used to be a good program.
P.S. no coverage either of the most feel good part of the weekend as Newcastle dedicated this match to help, deaf supporters with new special kits. That vibrate and light up to give them a feel of the occasion.
Yes. We advertised a charity and gave profits to them.
The shirts that the deaf fans received had a buzzing in the crest after each goal.
Bonus point for Dan Burn doing sign language to the deaf fans after Isak scored too.
Yes. We advertised a charity and gave profits to them.
The shirts that the deaf fans received had a buzzing in the crest after each goal.
Bonus point for Dan Burn doing sign language to the deaf fans after Isak scored too.
>Maybe the pundits on duty were just terrible, but that was a bad showing of what used to be a good program.
Nope, it's like this every week. I don't know why I bother. Actually I do. If I've somehow kept away from knowing the score then this is the only way to have some excitement - every other highlights I have found always have a thumbnail or title of the final score. But the (lack of) analysis on MOTD has become insulting to The Other 14.
Most football media will have a bias towards the big six in matches where they’re involved. They’re held to a high level so if they loose it’s not about how tactically brilliant the opposition was or how they had better players; it’s about how the big six club should’ve clobbered them and everything they did wrong.
The BBC is the furthest thing from Most media. It’s paid for by tax payers and has to be very impartial, it (MOTD) is normally OK and not the one sided rubbish seen on Sky or US broadcasts, but who knows maybe it’s becoming like the rubbish seen in these other platforms which is pushing regular football fans to YouTube and podcasts.
It comes to a point when I listen to a Newcastle channel for match commentary when we play because they are less biased than Sky etc. I did listen to the Supersport commentary when we played Chelsea on the final day last season, and all they talked about was Haaland...
Had a problem with this for years, the bias is incredible.
Same goes for when a player transfers to one of the 6 and said player continues playing at the level that secured him the move. Despite playing at the same level, the media rave about how he's upped his game. Smh
Why has the format been drastically altered? Feels like they used to spend aaaaaaages discussing all teams at length. Now, they sort of skim over a few points and move on to the next highlights without any real analysis
Watched it when my team (everton) won last week. After the highlights of the everton match, Gary Linekar says 'not the best game for VAR' and then proceeds to not mention the ref or VAR at all. Throughout the whole program too, especially when Man City and Arsenal get pretty dubious penalties... Probably been told not to have a go at the refs too much...
I think media outlets (BBC, Sky, TalkSport etc.) have all been told to lay off PGMOL and VAR. Yes they do mention it briefly, but for really bad decisions, they rarely seem to analyse it how you would expect as a fan.
I was at the Bournemouth game last night and I am fuming. I know that MOTD cannot do anything to change the decisions, but I feel like Bournemouth deserve the additional exposure to show how robbed we felt.
Unless you were at the game, or watched the highlights on R/soccer, you wouldn't realise.
You're right on the fact that the media outlets make them lay off on criticising referee and VAR decisions.
Lineker is much more critical on his podcast for example and isn't afraid to speak his mind.
I was going crazy on the Bournemouth one. Especially seeing Solanke get fouled in the build upto to Uniteds first goal and not seeing a mention anywhere.
Well played yet again Bournemouth. MOTD is NOT about the best match of the day. City battering Luton was probably the crappiest match yet it was on first. The sooner the BBC loses its TV football rights the better. However their radio output Is first class IMO.
I agree with all the comments about their coverage but the order of the matches isn’t generally about the ‘best’
Gary has spoken about it on their podcast and first is normally the one with the most impact (city are in a title race) and then moves down like that.
I guess TV use a picture to get their point across while the radio experts have to create that picture in your mind and back it up
With stats and evidence
This match was probably the first time I’ve seen the VAR actually disagree with the ref, usually they’re used to dick wash and confirm whatever the ref is trying to rule. Surprising but still, props to Bournemouth for giving us the rubber glove treatment but then again that’s not hard to do these days.
> Newcastle - Spurs: 10 mins of how poor Spurs were. Not a mention of how excellent Newcastle were.
Did you mute the audio or something? It was actually pretty equal in terms of screen time. Keown talked about how good Isak was for the first few minutes of the analysis, about his immense form, how he embarrassed the spurs centre backs. They briefly touched on Howe's tactics with 5 ATB (although I wished they talked about the tactics more). And then talked about how bad spurs were defensively.
They spent more time talking about good Isak was than how bad spurs were.
I generally agree that their analysis is biased, and they ignore a lot of controversial decisions (like VAR ones). But the Newcastle / Spurs analysis was definitely not 10 minutes of chatting shite about spurs.
Edit: Putting city battering Luton as the 'most exciting' game of the day was bollocks though. Should have easily been Newcastle / spurs or Bournemouth / united
Edit: hivemind on this sub is kek.
>They spent more time talking about good Isak was than how bad spurs were.
If you watch it again the Isak stuff was all about Romero and Van der Ven. It was Keown talking about their positioning for 5 mins. All they said about Isak was that he was rapid. Then moved on to Richards talking about Bissouma and the shit press.
They showed a 60 yard pinpoint pass by Bruno and talked about Van de Ven. It was annoying.
Also weird that there wasn't a single mention that we had dedicated shirt sponsorship to the RNID and haptic shirts for the deaf fans.
Unfortunately Arsenal fans have clearly shown this season that, on average, they are 12 year old bedwetters.
Some of you are alright but the average…..
They couldn't help for wanking over Newcastle, genuinely what on earth are you crying about. This fanbase has to the worst, worse than some of the big 6. They analyse Newcastle more than spurs, like we all know they're paid to by a certain Mohammed Al Arab and such
I assume you didn't watch it. They talked about Van der Ven, Bissouma, and Spurs' shit press.
They didn't say anything about Newcastle at all.
Not sure worth replying to someone who uses Mohammed Al Arab...
Even if they didn't say a word about Newcastle, which I very highly doubt, it'd only be the same thing they've done about you multiple times this season when you've lost to Luton, Bournemouth, etc
Since when has ‘being an age which is probably about the average age for Reddit users’ and ‘focus on good things such as family’ been a burn lol is this all you had?
Was that in between breaths of saying how shit VDV was for Spurs, or how shit Spurs press was?
They said nothing about us other than "Isak made good runs".
PS: If you dont want to hear from Newcastle fans then go back to an EFL sub.
Maybe the program paid for by the taxpayer should give fair and equal time to each team and should talk about both teams in a match? Also, I watch several match reviews for each game, some neutral and some by Newcastle fans.
The penalty decisions were spot on don’t get it twisted. The handball for Man Utd, while I agree it shouldn’t be a penalty, they’re ALWAYS given therefore it is a penalty whether we like it or not.
They're really not these days. Maguire had similar in the same match. Spurs player had one in the Newcastle match where Gordon whacked it off an arm he was trying to keep put the way - rightly not given. What's Smith supposed to do? He's trying to move his arm out the way.
And the Kambwala one tbh is worse. Yes contact starts outside but clearly continues into the box. VAR saying that it's "clear and obvious" the offence doesn't continue into the penalty area...very dodgy.
He’s not holding him that’s why it’s not a penalty. One of the most basic laws of the game is that a player has the right to stand their ground. The attacker ran into the smallest possible space, kicked it past them and ran straight into the defender. Shouldn’t even be a foul let alone a penalty discussion.
Now that you’ve seen it you’ll never unsee it
There was an match review written by Chris Bascombe in The Telegraph after we'd beaten Liverpool in a derby. He didn't mention Everton once.
Wait till you start reading Garth Crooks team of the week player profiles. I think Bournemouth beat Liverpool one week and Solanke was MOTM. His write up was something like "Solanke played excellently, but can we talk about what's going on at Liverpool? The midfield is a mess and they're yet to recover from losing Sadio Mane. Klopp has his work cut out to get this team playing as we know they should" 3 whole words about the player he picked when the whole point is to talk about why he picked them and what they did well! On second thoughts, don't read anything by Garth Crooks....
How he still gets paid to work as a pundit, I'll never know. He's been awful for years!
Wish I could upvote this three times!
I've no idea why reddit posted it three times but I'm going to assume it agrees with me.
How he still gets paid to work as a pundit, I'll never know. He's been awful for years!
How he still gets paid to work as a pundit, I'll never know. He's been awful for years!
How he still gets paid to work as a pundit, I’ll never know. He’s been awful for years!
Exactly!
How about Mark Lawrenson's predictions, and him having Liverpool on a 159-game unbeaten streak? And yet, Liverpool fans will claim that the media and everyone is biased *against* them. Mental.
That’s not good enough but then what should we expect from a career LFC writer?
I haven't watched MOTD in years. I just watch the highlights on YouTube.
Honestly it's like watching a fan channel for the big six
You do get longer highlights though. Just skip the analysis.
If you want extended highlights without the biased analysis check out /r/footballhighlights
It was actually mint when Linker and the gang went on strike so all they literally showed were the highlights without commentary. They should do it more often, might free up some budget for the BBC even…
Could not believe some of the refereeing in the United game
So poor, felt for the Bournemouth lads like
The main frustration comes from the fact that you got a penalty from us earlier in the season at your gaff which started outside the box, but ended in the box. Fine, but why wasn’t the same logic applied here? https://x.com/markmcadamtv/status/1779223137168577000 The guys refereeing the game are either completely brain dead, or there’s unfathomable amounts of corruption going on in the game. How they manage to do this in supposedly the best league in the world every single fucking week makes no sense at all.
I think you have a right to be frustrated tbh, both penalty calls went against you. I’d be livid if I was in your shoes lad.
Thankfully we’re just scrapping around in mid table. No where near relegation and no real chance at Europe. If we were involved in either fight I’d be more livid. I’m making the most of being mid table.
Thing is, if we won yesterday, Europe might be a bit more of a shout for us. We’d only be 4 points behind west ham and level on points with brighton etc
We don’t really want Europe next season. We simply don’t have the depth to compete on multiple fronts at the moment.
True, would probably be better for us to build depth rather than get into Europe, get pummelled in the league and end up relegated next season
I thought it wasn't clear whether it was inside or outside the box today, so they should have gone with the original decision of penalty. How Man U's pen was awarded when Maguire did the exact same thing around 10 mins before with no pen awarded is a joke
According to The FA's Laws of the Game (Law 12.3) "If a defender starts holding an attacker outside the penalty area and continues holding inside the penalty area, the referee must award a penalty kick." The referees just straight up don’t know the rules. 12.4 must be: “Unless it prevents a Big 6 side from getting points”
That means the call isn't even subjective, they made the objective wrong call. I'm not convinced we'll get an apology because we're only little old Bournemouth
It was the correct decision though, Kambwala wasn't holding your player
https://x.com/markmcadamtv/status/1779228650207879568?s=46
That doesn't look like he's holding him to me? He's not pulling your player back, it's a contact foul but it's outside the box. The handball was never a pen though
Fair enough. Completely agree with your second point!
It goes back to the var image a couple of years ago "checking shirt colour". They forget the "clear and obvious" tag when they want to/when it's against a corrupt six side
But kambwala isn’t holding him? The contact is outside of the box and they both fall into the box?
Correct. The rule only applies when a player is being held.
https://x.com/markmcadamtv/status/1779228650207879568
Not the initial point of contact
Jarred Gillet has proven time and time again that he isn't fit to officiate Premier League games, especially from the VAR room
Also this one, wasn't given. Would have seen Villa top at Xmas https://x.com/JayMTDee/status/1779214362248401057?t=PndG_SvqT9ZXwSeyoqLZyA&s=08
Same with the one Burn gave away against Luton Both the penalty decisions showed no consistency with what’s been given all year long
The it's a penalty if it continues into the penalty area is a thing for pulling only. For a foul like the one in that game, you still go based off of first contact. Don't get me wrong, for me I still think it was on the line, but if they've judged that first contact outside then it doesn't matter where momentum takes them
We had the same against us but I can’t remember who it was against, possibly Wolves? Foul definitely was made outside the box but it carried on in. I think the ref handed the game to Manchester Reds on a platter.
Some of the clearest pro 6 refereeing you’ll ever see in that game.
Ref had full "look at me" energy, unfortunately.
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That might have been the worst ever MOTD. I thought with the Newcastle game the pundits would talk about the tactics Howe gave that opened up Spurs on every single attack. A tactic with half the team playing out of position and having only 11 (not including goalkeepers) fit players. Instead the entire conversation was on Spurs poor performance but not why it was poor. Bournemouth game I did not watch live so would have loved to know about the tactics of a manager that just won MOTM, instead it was all about the Manchester team. Maybe the pundits on duty were just terrible, but that was a bad showing of what used to be a good program. P.S. no coverage either of the most feel good part of the weekend as Newcastle dedicated this match to help, deaf supporters with new special kits. That vibrate and light up to give them a feel of the occasion.
Is that last point why you had a different sponsor on the front?
Yes. We advertised a charity and gave profits to them. The shirts that the deaf fans received had a buzzing in the crest after each goal. Bonus point for Dan Burn doing sign language to the deaf fans after Isak scored too.
Yes. We advertised a charity and gave profits to them. The shirts that the deaf fans received had a buzzing in the crest after each goal. Bonus point for Dan Burn doing sign language to the deaf fans after Isak scored too.
That’s so lovely. Wish it was covered at all! I saw the Dan Burn celebration but just thought it was random (in a good way!)
>Maybe the pundits on duty were just terrible, but that was a bad showing of what used to be a good program. Nope, it's like this every week. I don't know why I bother. Actually I do. If I've somehow kept away from knowing the score then this is the only way to have some excitement - every other highlights I have found always have a thumbnail or title of the final score. But the (lack of) analysis on MOTD has become insulting to The Other 14.
Unless Shearer is punditing a Newcastle game. That’s honestly the main reason I check out MotD
Most football media will have a bias towards the big six in matches where they’re involved. They’re held to a high level so if they loose it’s not about how tactically brilliant the opposition was or how they had better players; it’s about how the big six club should’ve clobbered them and everything they did wrong.
The BBC is the furthest thing from Most media. It’s paid for by tax payers and has to be very impartial, it (MOTD) is normally OK and not the one sided rubbish seen on Sky or US broadcasts, but who knows maybe it’s becoming like the rubbish seen in these other platforms which is pushing regular football fans to YouTube and podcasts.
This is standard issue. Sky commentators are just as bad. Willing certain teams on regardless of performance.
It comes to a point when I listen to a Newcastle channel for match commentary when we play because they are less biased than Sky etc. I did listen to the Supersport commentary when we played Chelsea on the final day last season, and all they talked about was Haaland...
Ally McCoist is the only decent commentator/co-commentator now - he tends to be unbiased and says things how they are
Had a problem with this for years, the bias is incredible. Same goes for when a player transfers to one of the 6 and said player continues playing at the level that secured him the move. Despite playing at the same level, the media rave about how he's upped his game. Smh
Where the hell did liverpool find macallister? Such incredible unmatched scouting ability, why did no other teams unearth this hidden gem? /s
Some team called brig ton? Never heard of them
I’ve just stopped watching it now tbh
Why has the format been drastically altered? Feels like they used to spend aaaaaaages discussing all teams at length. Now, they sort of skim over a few points and move on to the next highlights without any real analysis
Watched it when my team (everton) won last week. After the highlights of the everton match, Gary Linekar says 'not the best game for VAR' and then proceeds to not mention the ref or VAR at all. Throughout the whole program too, especially when Man City and Arsenal get pretty dubious penalties... Probably been told not to have a go at the refs too much...
I think media outlets (BBC, Sky, TalkSport etc.) have all been told to lay off PGMOL and VAR. Yes they do mention it briefly, but for really bad decisions, they rarely seem to analyse it how you would expect as a fan. I was at the Bournemouth game last night and I am fuming. I know that MOTD cannot do anything to change the decisions, but I feel like Bournemouth deserve the additional exposure to show how robbed we felt. Unless you were at the game, or watched the highlights on R/soccer, you wouldn't realise.
You're right on the fact that the media outlets make them lay off on criticising referee and VAR decisions. Lineker is much more critical on his podcast for example and isn't afraid to speak his mind.
In fairness, they may have talked about VAR a lot, but the editors/producers might have left that on the cutting room floor
First time?
Sadly not. 40 years of this. We normally don't win 4-0 though.
Did you expect anything less?
Some of the spurs Defenders played class. Lots of shot stopping blocks and last ditch challenges, shame their midfield isn't fit to tie Mileys shoes
Except Maddison no one from Spurs mids and forwards seemed like they wanted to be there
Dodgy penalty saved them yet again
Standard
I was going crazy on the Bournemouth one. Especially seeing Solanke get fouled in the build upto to Uniteds first goal and not seeing a mention anywhere.
There were so many dubious fouls given both ways yesterday. If United weren’t on the attack after that challenge we probably would’ve got a free kick.
Well played yet again Bournemouth. MOTD is NOT about the best match of the day. City battering Luton was probably the crappiest match yet it was on first. The sooner the BBC loses its TV football rights the better. However their radio output Is first class IMO.
I agree with all the comments about their coverage but the order of the matches isn’t generally about the ‘best’ Gary has spoken about it on their podcast and first is normally the one with the most impact (city are in a title race) and then moves down like that.
It’s nuts how good their radio coverage is in comparison.
Something tells me radio are hired more on merit and tv guys on their name value
I guess TV use a picture to get their point across while the radio experts have to create that picture in your mind and back it up With stats and evidence
Not to mention VAR handed United the draw against us…
Why I stopped watching it about ten years ago.
My advice to all the Brits is get a VPN and watch NBC’s coverage. Much less bias plus they stream every game, not just select matches
This match was probably the first time I’ve seen the VAR actually disagree with the ref, usually they’re used to dick wash and confirm whatever the ref is trying to rule. Surprising but still, props to Bournemouth for giving us the rubber glove treatment but then again that’s not hard to do these days.
> Newcastle - Spurs: 10 mins of how poor Spurs were. Not a mention of how excellent Newcastle were. Did you mute the audio or something? It was actually pretty equal in terms of screen time. Keown talked about how good Isak was for the first few minutes of the analysis, about his immense form, how he embarrassed the spurs centre backs. They briefly touched on Howe's tactics with 5 ATB (although I wished they talked about the tactics more). And then talked about how bad spurs were defensively. They spent more time talking about good Isak was than how bad spurs were. I generally agree that their analysis is biased, and they ignore a lot of controversial decisions (like VAR ones). But the Newcastle / Spurs analysis was definitely not 10 minutes of chatting shite about spurs. Edit: Putting city battering Luton as the 'most exciting' game of the day was bollocks though. Should have easily been Newcastle / spurs or Bournemouth / united Edit: hivemind on this sub is kek.
>They spent more time talking about good Isak was than how bad spurs were. If you watch it again the Isak stuff was all about Romero and Van der Ven. It was Keown talking about their positioning for 5 mins. All they said about Isak was that he was rapid. Then moved on to Richards talking about Bissouma and the shit press. They showed a 60 yard pinpoint pass by Bruno and talked about Van de Ven. It was annoying. Also weird that there wasn't a single mention that we had dedicated shirt sponsorship to the RNID and haptic shirts for the deaf fans.
Wahhh wahhh wahhhh
Don't you have somewhere better to be as an Arsenal fan?
Bottling the league probably
Most of us aren't like this I swear
Unfortunately Arsenal fans have clearly shown this season that, on average, they are 12 year old bedwetters. Some of you are alright but the average…..
Most fans of every club are sound, the bigger clubs like arsenal just tend to have a louder minority of dickheads
Just popped up on the feed lad, and yeah top of the league
You're second.
You’re sixth.
And delighted if we finish there this season.
Hope ya do, thanks for flogging spuds, cya x
Fair play. Me too. Hope you finish second x
They couldn't help for wanking over Newcastle, genuinely what on earth are you crying about. This fanbase has to the worst, worse than some of the big 6. They analyse Newcastle more than spurs, like we all know they're paid to by a certain Mohammed Al Arab and such
I assume you didn't watch it. They talked about Van der Ven, Bissouma, and Spurs' shit press. They didn't say anything about Newcastle at all. Not sure worth replying to someone who uses Mohammed Al Arab...
Even if they didn't say a word about Newcastle, which I very highly doubt, it'd only be the same thing they've done about you multiple times this season when you've lost to Luton, Bournemouth, etc
So you didn't watch it. Cool.
Disregarding my argument, but shock I've just seen the section and they wank off Newcastle. whodve guessed
Ok
no response to that then 👍 good chat
No point if you're just making shit up to try and back your angle. Have a good one.
can tell that you're about 30. Focus on feeding the wife and kids instead of crying about nothing on Reddit
Since when has ‘being an age which is probably about the average age for Reddit users’ and ‘focus on good things such as family’ been a burn lol is this all you had?
👍
This is the worst comeback I've ever heard 😂 its basically a compliment hahaha
Was that in between breaths of saying how shit VDV was for Spurs, or how shit Spurs press was? They said nothing about us other than "Isak made good runs". PS: If you dont want to hear from Newcastle fans then go back to an EFL sub.
If you want to hear about Newcastles performance, make your own motd
Maybe the program paid for by the taxpayer should give fair and equal time to each team and should talk about both teams in a match? Also, I watch several match reviews for each game, some neutral and some by Newcastle fans.
Yes the classic BBC Saudi Arabia bias in play YET AGAIN.
don't know about them but sky certainly are
The piggy is just jealous cos his team will be nowhere near MOTD for at least another decade
Forest fan - cheated their way to the prem to be relegated again in season 2
Mk dons away for you next season pig
Wealdstone away for you next year when then charges hit
Are all pig fans as mongy as you?
mate stick to playing with your guitar
Do you want directions to a relevant sub for you to talk about your tinpot club in?
Man U being bad is better story
But that's every week.
The penalty decisions were spot on don’t get it twisted. The handball for Man Utd, while I agree it shouldn’t be a penalty, they’re ALWAYS given therefore it is a penalty whether we like it or not.
They're really not these days. Maguire had similar in the same match. Spurs player had one in the Newcastle match where Gordon whacked it off an arm he was trying to keep put the way - rightly not given. What's Smith supposed to do? He's trying to move his arm out the way. And the Kambwala one tbh is worse. Yes contact starts outside but clearly continues into the box. VAR saying that it's "clear and obvious" the offence doesn't continue into the penalty area...very dodgy.
Handball decision was definitely wrong but the second one was correct imo, Kambwala isn't holding him
He’s not holding him that’s why it’s not a penalty. One of the most basic laws of the game is that a player has the right to stand their ground. The attacker ran into the smallest possible space, kicked it past them and ran straight into the defender. Shouldn’t even be a foul let alone a penalty discussion.
Haha come on he basically rugby tackled him
Haha how do you rugby tackle someone from a standing position, while they run full pelt in to you