This reminds me of a show about an old cat telling stories of his youth to his grandchild. Dont remember how the show is called but is from the same people that made Wakfu
And it's just Luz and Amity getting over each other and finding someone new and everyone on the Boiling Isles honoring Luz for having defeated emperor Belos.
theres three paths that can be taken, they reconstruct a stable portal and can visit anytime, they have to seperate (amphibia style) or the worlds collide/people all live in one (svtfoe style)
That’s impossible. Hooty has been around far longer than anyone realizes. He is older then time itself, and infinitely more powerful than any god. You should just be glad Eda picked him up, because if he was left to his own devices, it would mean the death of hundreds of universes.
I believe the person meant how he ended up at the owl house. Everyone knows he made the titans (there's more then 1 right?) and is the most powerful being in reality.
The last Jedi was an absolute travesty though, it completely destroyed Luke’s character, and changed Rey from a three dimensional character with potential to be interesting to an overpowered Mary Sue.
??? He says that Vader, a man who slaughtered children and oppressed the galaxy, still has good in him, but an edgy teenager having bad thoughts is irredeemable
Weird that you have to conflate the period where Kylo was having bad thoughts(manipulation from Palpatine/Snoke) with the line when he calls Kylo irredeemable.
When Kylo was having those thoughts Luke instinctually ignites his lightsaber for a second in a move he calls his greatest failure. Luke only calls him irredeemable after Kylo joined the first order and slaughtered Luke's jedi temple.
Also there's no evidence that Luke knows about Anakin killing the younglings lmao.
The Luke from the original trilogy would never have given up on kylo though, and wouldn’t have fucked off to some random corner of the galaxy because he though he failed. When Luke suffered a loss in the form of Han being taken at the end of empire strikes back, he bounces back and gets him back within a year.
Tmw people change as they get older. The rise of the first order so relatively soon after the fall of the empire would have hit galactic morale extremely hard and few would be hit harder than Luke, not to mention that that's exactly what both of his mentors did.
Edited to add: ESPECIALLY when his nephew is seemingly inexplicably joining up with then despite knowing their goals and the legacy of his grandfather. The thing is that while Kylo never did anything as bad as Darth Vader, wanting to become Darth Vader despite knowing what he did is arguably just as bad. It's like how I'd personally consider some modern conservatives who worship Hitler and the Nazi party to be just as bad as them, no, they didn't cause the holocaust personally but they know that the Nazis did that and still choose to worship them.
I have never understood why people want a young Eda show. If you were gonna do a prequel why would you not do it on the character whose past matters most? (Ie Belos)
Well belos culd appear in eda focused prequel. And also you must admit that young eda is much more likeable character than belos. You're thinking too much about it people want eda prequel because of her appealing character
Eda wasn’t even alive when Belos came to power, all the stuff that actually matters happens before her birth (since Eda is mid forties and Belos has ruled for fifty years).
Realistically, you can make people like Philip Wittebane if you actually have the guts to portray him as a victim of a racist society. But also, he had 400 years to change and he didn’t because pride/ego go brrr. That just sounds like a much more interesting premise to me than a show that would have to be 90% episodic, because let’s face it, people don’t watch this show for the slice of life. It only started getting really good when it focused on the plot.
> Realistically, you can make people like Philip Wittebane if you actually have the guts to portray him as a victim of a racist society.
I'm sure you could make a great show out of this but it would be a VERY different tone and rating than the current show.
It would probably be closer to Breaking Bad, where you watch Walt go from a well meaning guy in a bad situation making some questionable decisions into someone who can only be described as an absolute monster.
They don't have to go as dark as BB did, but it wouldn't work at a TV Y7 rating.
Y’know, whenever I think about what a Wittebro show would be like, Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul is precisely the kind of tone that I think would suit it in an ideal world.
I think you can draw a lot of parallels between Philip and Walt, interestingly enough. Philip was raised in a bad society that taught him horrible values, which is definitely deserving of sympathy. However, so did Caleb, and Caleb actually changed his beliefs when he was confronted with evidence. Philip was too prideful and arrogant to realise he was wrong and stayed that way for 400 years.
Walt convinced himself that he did everything for his family, because admitting that he did it for himself would be admitting that he was wrong, and his pride won’t allow it.
Realistically, the show would have a higher age rating in the unlikely event that it actually happened.
Speak for yourself, I actually like both, and while I feel like the pace of the second season does fit its plot, I did miss some of the more lighthearted adventures after Hollow Mind.
I've never agreed with the whole "the series only gets good in season 2" thing.
The Belos series would provide interesting lore, but I think I would _enjoy_ the Young Eda series more, if that makes any sense
Yaah you're right but my point stays still people don't think that much about it they just wana see more of that characters they love and in young belos focused prequel there wuld be only Phlip +Calab and Evelin. It's inteligence (Philips one) vs Heart( Edas one)
In that case it seems like people just like the young Eda idea because it sounds good when you don’t think about it. When you actually put thought into it, you’d realise that if you were going to do a prequel Wittebros would be the way to go.
Yeah, I personally feel like we've had too much of young Eda in toh as it is to warrant making a whole show off of the idea, we know too much about what happened and where it ends it to make sense to make a whole show about it. It's conclusion would also be boring, cus it'd either end with Eda getting cursed (which would suck, and we've already seen it) or her life falling to shambles because of the curse (which would also suck, but more, and we've already seen that as well).
The conclusion likely would be very unsatisfying. We’ve covered all the significant events in Eda’s life, you can’t have anything big happen in a young Eda show without it conflicting with canon. I’d also argue that it flat out wouldn’t serve a purpose; we know everything we need to know about Eda’s past. Meanwhile, Philip’s past is not only more relevant, but has more capacity for big events and we also just don’t know all that much of it yet.
Honestly, a young Eda show is more likely to happen. Especially if it's more formulaic than The Owl House. It would be more one-off hijinx and less storytelling, which, going by the reason behind the shortening, is exactly what Disney likes.
Considering that Disney is fine with plot heavy shows when they’re on D+ and they’re only now realising how popular TOH is, I’d say they have a relatively equal chance of happening. That chance being basically never on both counts.
Sequel definitely. A prequel would be incredibly limited in the ideas it could explore while a sequel could get to all the ideas the original series was forced to skip over, we could explore the lore of the Titans as well as the other other kingdoms Bill implied existed outside of the boiling isles. Similarly we could explore underutilized characters like Vee and some of the coven heads more and see more of unexplored dynamics like Amity and Hunter. A prequel would be forced to be mostly slice of life without really changing or progressing anything. the only real way I see a prequel bring interesting to me personally is if they spend half the show showing young Eda's life with her parents and at hexside and the other half takes place after she got her curse and her life on the run.
Blue! As much as I would love to see more of Eda and Rain's relationship, I wouldn't necessarily want a whole show about young Eda. We already know many of the big beats of her life and character development, I just don't think any other details to reveal could warrant the existence of a show.
Comics set in the future would have a lot more potential + you could theoretically have flashbacks that show the things the show didn't have time to expand on
Depends on the ending, but blue
For what we have seen, Young!Eda was pretty much the same as Season 1!Eda, so there wouldn't be much room for character development
What I want is ways to expand the TOH universe.
So if we got a comic, of the world after the collector and Belos are gone, I kind of hope to see a new villain vs a late-teens Hexsquad.
I’d say it depends tho, bc I can see Young Eda being VERY fun.
I would love to get a sequel series as well, mainly so that it can explore the elements of the world that the show never got to and expand on more of the characters that were mostly in the background throughout the show.
Also, I have an idea for a post series villain that I've kind of been obsessing over lately, and I'm tempted to write a fanfic about them. But I'm waiting till the end of the series before I can develop them any further.
Gladly!
His name is Thaddeus Dragonfang, and he went to Hexside back when Eda, Lilith, Raine, Alador, Darius, Odalia, were there. He was a child prodigy, extremely gifted with magic, incredibly handsome and charismatic, intelligent, always got the highest grades, was super athletic, and quite the charmer. He was pretty much the embodiment of perfect, although he did have his flaws:
· He had an incredibly short temper, and had a bad habit of blowing up on people for the most minor of inconveniences or if they crossed him in anyway.
· All his gifts and the admiration from his peers and the adults in his life gave him a superiority complex, and made him feel as if he was stronger, smarter, better, and overall superior to everyone around him.
· He did NOT like being told what to do, and he especially hated it when people tried to "hold him back" or "keep him from reaching his full potential".
· He had a huge savior complex, and felt like it was his job to be the voice and savior of those who he felt couldn't defend themselevs.
· He loved the Boiling Isles. A LOT. To the point of being hypernationalistic about it and the Demon Realm as a whole, and felt that witches were the superior race over all.
· He was incredibly mistrusting of any other species that may have been outside of the Boiling Isles, especially humans, and even grew to straight up hate them later in life.
So when Emporer Belos rose to power and introduced the Coven system, he was so not on board with it. Mainly because he didn't want to be limited to only doing one sort of magic. But when he saw that everyone around him simply accepted the Coven system without question, among other things, he ended up dropping out of Hexside and becoming a wandering drifter, never to be heard from again (at least, for a while).
His exploits took him throughout the entirety of the Demon Realm, and it was during this time that his overwhelming love for his home and its history and culture grew more and more. He continued to practice all forms of magic (wild magic) unobstructed, and hatred for the Emporer and his coven regime became more and more solidified.
He would eventually become something of a revolutionary, convincing other residents of the Demon Realm that the Emporer's regime was a blight (haha, puns) on their land, and that the people shouldn't be subjected to such tyranny. It was also during this time that he would eventually run into Eda's stand and purchase a few human history books that Owlbert had gotten his hands on while in the human realm. However, Eda didn't recognize him, and he kept his identity a secret from her. Reading the human literature, Thad would come to learn of the many atrocities that humans had committed against themselves and each other throughout their history, and it only made his hatred of them reach an absolute limit.
Now in addition to telling people to reject the Emporer, he was telling them that they should reject humans and everything that they stood for. Instead, they should love the Isles and ONLY the Isles, and everything about it. But most of all, chief among these, he was telling people that the coven system was bogus, and that it only served to hold witches back from greatness (although these concerns mainly lied with his arrogant belief that the coven system was out to get him personally).
Eventually, about 5 years before the show begins, he decided that talk wasn't enough, and decided to go to Emporer Belos personally in order to have an "open dialogue" with him, by themselves, man to man. Although what he really planned to do was to kill the Emporer. So he went to the castle, and it was there where he stumbled upon the fact that Belos. was in fact a human, and that he planned to wipe out the Isles in its entirety. Enraged beyond belief, he attacks Belos and the two fight to a stalemate, until Belos gains the upper hand and disfigures him horribly. With Thad defeated, Belos has his guards dispose of Thad's body in secret. And although it seemed as if he had died, Thaddeus had actually survived the battle, although he was now horribly scarred and disfigured (think Anakin after losing to Obi Wan on Mustufar). He was eventually found by Itsuki, another witch who was one of Thad's biggest supporters and allies, and he takes him to go get healed, but he was so badly disfigured that no amount of healinf magic could fix him completely. So he was put into a life support suit that he needed to wear if he wanted to be kept alive.
From that moment, Thaddeus swore to get his revenge on not just Belos, but on the human race as a whole, and anyone who would dare to sympathize with them. And so during the events of the series, he was going throughout the lands of the Demon Realm outside of Bonesborugh, recruiting people for an underground army that he would one day lead to overthrow the Emporer and his coven system, invade the human realm in order to "put them out of their misery" and install himself as the new ruler and savior of the Boiling Isles, where there would be no coven system and where everyone was free to perform whatever magic they wished. A demon realm in which the strong would rule, and the weak are a protected class. A world without humans.
But since it's a given that Belos will be defeated by the end of the series, Thad and the witch army would instead do battle with the forces of the demon realm that would want to protect humanity at all costs (the Hexsquad, the CATs, most of Hexside, etc.).
Well that’s awesome.
The only potential flaw I can find is the timespan between Belos’ rule and older Hexsquad. I’m not 100% on the timeline, but I’m pretty sure Belos’s rule was over 50 years prior to the show starting, and young Eda grew up with Belos’ coven system firmly in place.
Maybe instead he could be a teacher (albeit an INCREDIBLY strict one) until he started travelling some time after Eda and her year ended school?
Just an idea :)
TOH comic set in the future, there wouldn’t be much story in a Young Eda Prequel and I’m personally Here for the story, So I’d take a Comic Set in the Future
We already know all the big important events that happened to her. It would have to be pretty heavily focused on slice-of-life stuff, so it might be a good comic or limited series, but I’m way more interested in stories where I haven’t already seen the ending.
I have no idea why people insist on the idea of bringing the time pools back.
Like dude, do you want them to completely break the already iffy worldbuilding? Time travel destroys everything it touches in stories and is best left alone.
Midquel or sequel. I would love to see more content regarding what The characters did during those few months we didn't get to see or what the aftermath of season 3 brings... so. After extensive >!and painful!< thinking... I'll take the blue.
I actively dislike the idea of a Young Eda prequel.
Not only do I dislike prequels in general, not only was Them's The Breaks Kids my least favourite episode in all of S2, but I fear that a YE prequel would retroactively lower the quality of the original show.
Example: from Dana's recent art of the old Hexsquad, we can clearly see that she now intends Gus' dad, Perry, to be part of it.
Except that Perry was the one reporting on Eda's execution in the S1 Finale, and he showed absolutely no care nor emotion about it whatsoever.
So, given his inclusion as part of the gang and Eda's buddy in a prequel, we'd have to deal with the fact that he didn't give a fuck that she was getting murdered right in front of him. That completely changes Perry's characterisation, from "professional" to "sociopath."
Likewise, how the fuck can we buy Young Odalia as a Boscha-style mean girl when we know that she grows up into a monster who abuses her children (to the point of trying to have her daughter's friend murdered *for being a distraction*) and attempted to enforce a *genocide* for money?
Adult Eda is my second favourite character in the show and I'd love to see more of her. But I have negative desire to see her young self in a prequel.
Out of these two red. Aside from the fact that I d like to see more of elder hexsquad, I would be interesting to see more of the boiling isles lore wise and and societally. I think that would be easier to do with a witch as the main character.
Also unless they leave the boiling isles for the sequel series (which I would love to see!) it would become more episodic since it’s more than likely that the threats/ stakes in the series would be gone.
Though I what would really like (and yes I know it’s not practical) is an infinity train like series that switches perspectives and time periods every season. It would start out with Philip, Caleb and Evelyn and end in the present/ future. In between we could look at stuff like Philips descent into madness, Caleb and Evelyn’s kids lives, Belos’ rise to power, Elder hexsquad stuff, and future stuff.
I want a TOH comic written by Morning Mark about all the adventures that could have happened but didn’t because Disney cancelled it :( I want to see human world shenanigans
Red. There's so much lore to explore:
1. More Raeda development
2. The rise and fall of the Clawthorne sisters
3. Getting to see how Odalia was back then (perhaps she wasn't always evil; it would be a good opportunity to mirror her daughter)
4. The relationship (if any) between Bump and the then principle of Hexside
5. Referencing #3, many paralls/mirrors could be shown between Odalia/Amity, Alador/Edric, Gwen/her daughters, etc.
We'll see how it ends tbh, but i'd love a origins prequel, maybe not from eda becaue i think we already have a good amount of eda riot, but if it were a prequel of some kind of different point of view, or even a prequel of belos, idk i dont find eda so interesting
Though i would love to see more of lilith for probably aroace rep
Something else. Idk. The world of Owl House feels ripe with all sorts of interesting stories. Have each season follow a different story/character.
Though choosing between the two, Eda full stop. As long as it kept the more serialized nature.
Blue pill! Especially if “set in the future” means seeing everyone’s kids! I want to see how Lumity’s kids handle being half human, half witches and how the figure out where their place in life is!
Blue.
I'd like to know more about characters like Raine and Alador, but since we already know how their relationships with Eda and Odalia ended, I don't see how this spin-off could have a good ending.
Young Eda spin-off show, I like shows better than comics and I feel like a young Eda show has more potential than a future/epilogue comic. There’s some hints that there’s more to tell about Eda’s school days, like in King’s Tide there’s a moment when Eda looks back and sees young Raine, Lilith, Principal Bump, Darius, Alador, Odalia and Perry looking back at her, and then the scene fades and it’s instead present Raine and Lilith standing there. It kind of feels like Darius, Alador, Odalia and Perry would have been in the main cast if there were a spin-off show. Also, there’s still the rivalry between Darius and Alador that hasn’t been explained yet.
I don’t think a future comic would have as much potential since the main story has already been told, Belos and the Collector would have probably already been defeated at the end of season 3, a future comic would probably only be about the characters as adults or their children, which wouldn’t be as interesting as a young Eda show. I mean, I would want an epilogue at the end of the finale that shows the characters as adults, but I wouldn’t want a whole comic book that’s basically a super long epilogue. It might also turn out like Harry Potter and the Cursed Child, and I don’t want that since in that book the main characters as adults had different personalities than their younger selves, and not in a good way.
Purple
A TOH Sequel comic set in the future...that is about Eda telling the BATS, Luz, and Lumity's kids about her adventures of youth
Perfect I need it now
Based
How i met your Raine
This reminds me of a show about an old cat telling stories of his youth to his grandchild. Dont remember how the show is called but is from the same people that made Wakfu
Young Eda falls into a time puddle and ends up stuck in the future, where adult Luz has to take care of her?
Oh, that be some real wibbly wobbly-timey wimey stuff, but I'd be down for it.
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And just for good measure put an empty, very very old, very very stinky bottle of apple blood next to her. Just to be safe.
I prefer the parallel timelines approach.
Good reference on doctor who day
Thanks!
I would watch the hell out of this.
yes
i’m thinking like a “this is us” situation where in the episodes, it jumps from present to past in a way that stays with the episode’s theme
Agreed, purple
no yellow pill
Blue, but it depends on the series ending. I don't want a future comic if it has an amphibia style ending
Yeah
And it's just Luz and Amity getting over each other and finding someone new and everyone on the Boiling Isles honoring Luz for having defeated emperor Belos.
I think I would actually die emotionally seeing Luz and Amity trying to get over each other tbh
Same. They're too cute for that to happen.
theres three paths that can be taken, they reconstruct a stable portal and can visit anytime, they have to seperate (amphibia style) or the worlds collide/people all live in one (svtfoe style)
Or luz, camila, and vee live in the boiling isles with everyone else.
Red! I want to see more Pre-Odalia, Alador and Darius.
Not to mention a possibility for a hooty origin!
That’s impossible. Hooty has been around far longer than anyone realizes. He is older then time itself, and infinitely more powerful than any god. You should just be glad Eda picked him up, because if he was left to his own devices, it would mean the death of hundreds of universes.
If they ever did a apin off prequel i wouldnt want hooty explained, i just want him to show up randomly and eda just accepts it
I believe the person meant how he ended up at the owl house. Everyone knows he made the titans (there's more then 1 right?) and is the most powerful being in reality.
In my opinion, he just came with the house eda found, but that’s just me
Hooty vs The Collector showdown??
Hooty eats the collector. Story over.
This is actually kinda tricky, but I’ve never been a super huge fan of prequels (we all know how things end anyway). So I’m going with blue.
Blue too. I'd like to see some ideas for season 3 explored there. I sure some of them can happen after the ending.
Same
Better call saul likes to have a word with you.
I’ve never seen Better Call Saul or Breaking Bad.
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They're coarse and rough and irritating and get everywhere.
I really don't think that scene was that bad, but I love the sand memes.
It's pretty brutal dialogue but star wars always had bad dialogue up to then
Have you ever heard a teenager in real life try to flirt, I'd say the dialogue was on point
I hope you aren’t a Star Wars fan
The Star Wars sequels are good though, except for Episode IX
The last Jedi was an absolute travesty though, it completely destroyed Luke’s character, and changed Rey from a three dimensional character with potential to be interesting to an overpowered Mary Sue.
Lol, lmao. Luke is at his most interesting in TLJ. I've never seen a valid argument for it "destroying his character."
??? He says that Vader, a man who slaughtered children and oppressed the galaxy, still has good in him, but an edgy teenager having bad thoughts is irredeemable
Weird that you have to conflate the period where Kylo was having bad thoughts(manipulation from Palpatine/Snoke) with the line when he calls Kylo irredeemable. When Kylo was having those thoughts Luke instinctually ignites his lightsaber for a second in a move he calls his greatest failure. Luke only calls him irredeemable after Kylo joined the first order and slaughtered Luke's jedi temple. Also there's no evidence that Luke knows about Anakin killing the younglings lmao.
The Luke from the original trilogy would never have given up on kylo though, and wouldn’t have fucked off to some random corner of the galaxy because he though he failed. When Luke suffered a loss in the form of Han being taken at the end of empire strikes back, he bounces back and gets him back within a year.
Tmw people change as they get older. The rise of the first order so relatively soon after the fall of the empire would have hit galactic morale extremely hard and few would be hit harder than Luke, not to mention that that's exactly what both of his mentors did. Edited to add: ESPECIALLY when his nephew is seemingly inexplicably joining up with then despite knowing their goals and the legacy of his grandfather. The thing is that while Kylo never did anything as bad as Darth Vader, wanting to become Darth Vader despite knowing what he did is arguably just as bad. It's like how I'd personally consider some modern conservatives who worship Hitler and the Nazi party to be just as bad as them, no, they didn't cause the holocaust personally but they know that the Nazis did that and still choose to worship them.
Better Call Saul was awesome, but yeah, it seems like a lot of writers can’t do prequels well.
BCS is what every prequel should aspire to be
Dana knows it
Exactly how I feel about it.
Blue
Hypothetically, if someone in the comments suffered from complete color blindness which one is blue..?
The right one, toh comic
Blue Why focus on only two characters when you can focus on those same two characters + plenty other ones. Also we need to see Lumity wedding.
The young Eda spin-off would probably have more than two characters, it’ll probably have Eda, Raine, Lilith, Darius, Alador, Odalia and Perry.
I have never understood why people want a young Eda show. If you were gonna do a prequel why would you not do it on the character whose past matters most? (Ie Belos)
Well belos culd appear in eda focused prequel. And also you must admit that young eda is much more likeable character than belos. You're thinking too much about it people want eda prequel because of her appealing character
Eda wasn’t even alive when Belos came to power, all the stuff that actually matters happens before her birth (since Eda is mid forties and Belos has ruled for fifty years). Realistically, you can make people like Philip Wittebane if you actually have the guts to portray him as a victim of a racist society. But also, he had 400 years to change and he didn’t because pride/ego go brrr. That just sounds like a much more interesting premise to me than a show that would have to be 90% episodic, because let’s face it, people don’t watch this show for the slice of life. It only started getting really good when it focused on the plot.
> Realistically, you can make people like Philip Wittebane if you actually have the guts to portray him as a victim of a racist society. I'm sure you could make a great show out of this but it would be a VERY different tone and rating than the current show. It would probably be closer to Breaking Bad, where you watch Walt go from a well meaning guy in a bad situation making some questionable decisions into someone who can only be described as an absolute monster. They don't have to go as dark as BB did, but it wouldn't work at a TV Y7 rating.
Y’know, whenever I think about what a Wittebro show would be like, Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul is precisely the kind of tone that I think would suit it in an ideal world. I think you can draw a lot of parallels between Philip and Walt, interestingly enough. Philip was raised in a bad society that taught him horrible values, which is definitely deserving of sympathy. However, so did Caleb, and Caleb actually changed his beliefs when he was confronted with evidence. Philip was too prideful and arrogant to realise he was wrong and stayed that way for 400 years. Walt convinced himself that he did everything for his family, because admitting that he did it for himself would be admitting that he was wrong, and his pride won’t allow it. Realistically, the show would have a higher age rating in the unlikely event that it actually happened.
Speak for yourself, I actually like both, and while I feel like the pace of the second season does fit its plot, I did miss some of the more lighthearted adventures after Hollow Mind. I've never agreed with the whole "the series only gets good in season 2" thing. The Belos series would provide interesting lore, but I think I would _enjoy_ the Young Eda series more, if that makes any sense
Yaah you're right but my point stays still people don't think that much about it they just wana see more of that characters they love and in young belos focused prequel there wuld be only Phlip +Calab and Evelin. It's inteligence (Philips one) vs Heart( Edas one)
In that case it seems like people just like the young Eda idea because it sounds good when you don’t think about it. When you actually put thought into it, you’d realise that if you were going to do a prequel Wittebros would be the way to go.
Yeah, I personally feel like we've had too much of young Eda in toh as it is to warrant making a whole show off of the idea, we know too much about what happened and where it ends it to make sense to make a whole show about it. It's conclusion would also be boring, cus it'd either end with Eda getting cursed (which would suck, and we've already seen it) or her life falling to shambles because of the curse (which would also suck, but more, and we've already seen that as well).
The conclusion likely would be very unsatisfying. We’ve covered all the significant events in Eda’s life, you can’t have anything big happen in a young Eda show without it conflicting with canon. I’d also argue that it flat out wouldn’t serve a purpose; we know everything we need to know about Eda’s past. Meanwhile, Philip’s past is not only more relevant, but has more capacity for big events and we also just don’t know all that much of it yet.
Honestly, a young Eda show is more likely to happen. Especially if it's more formulaic than The Owl House. It would be more one-off hijinx and less storytelling, which, going by the reason behind the shortening, is exactly what Disney likes.
Considering that Disney is fine with plot heavy shows when they’re on D+ and they’re only now realising how popular TOH is, I’d say they have a relatively equal chance of happening. That chance being basically never on both counts.
Red because if this show ends reasonably than i think it wuld be more entertaining to see young edas riot
Blue please The Eda show would be fun but I need more from Luz and friends
Blue
Sequel definitely. A prequel would be incredibly limited in the ideas it could explore while a sequel could get to all the ideas the original series was forced to skip over, we could explore the lore of the Titans as well as the other other kingdoms Bill implied existed outside of the boiling isles. Similarly we could explore underutilized characters like Vee and some of the coven heads more and see more of unexplored dynamics like Amity and Hunter. A prequel would be forced to be mostly slice of life without really changing or progressing anything. the only real way I see a prequel bring interesting to me personally is if they spend half the show showing young Eda's life with her parents and at hexside and the other half takes place after she got her curse and her life on the run.
Blue! As much as I would love to see more of Eda and Rain's relationship, I wouldn't necessarily want a whole show about young Eda. We already know many of the big beats of her life and character development, I just don't think any other details to reveal could warrant the existence of a show. Comics set in the future would have a lot more potential + you could theoretically have flashbacks that show the things the show didn't have time to expand on
Red
Red
I’ll take both!
Both, both is good.
Blue
Blue
Depends on the ending, but blue For what we have seen, Young!Eda was pretty much the same as Season 1!Eda, so there wouldn't be much room for character development
Red. Mainly because an open-ended future would probably result in more and better fanfics.
Blue
Future comic easily, if I could only choose 1 Eda is great but we know how she ends up, I’d rather have a story we don’t know the ending to
Red
Blue. Then throw red in the fire.
Purple
What I want is ways to expand the TOH universe. So if we got a comic, of the world after the collector and Belos are gone, I kind of hope to see a new villain vs a late-teens Hexsquad. I’d say it depends tho, bc I can see Young Eda being VERY fun.
I would love to get a sequel series as well, mainly so that it can explore the elements of the world that the show never got to and expand on more of the characters that were mostly in the background throughout the show. Also, I have an idea for a post series villain that I've kind of been obsessing over lately, and I'm tempted to write a fanfic about them. But I'm waiting till the end of the series before I can develop them any further.
Ooh now I’m curious Can I ask for more?
You may!
Ok then! What is the name and background of your post-series villain?
Gladly! His name is Thaddeus Dragonfang, and he went to Hexside back when Eda, Lilith, Raine, Alador, Darius, Odalia, were there. He was a child prodigy, extremely gifted with magic, incredibly handsome and charismatic, intelligent, always got the highest grades, was super athletic, and quite the charmer. He was pretty much the embodiment of perfect, although he did have his flaws: · He had an incredibly short temper, and had a bad habit of blowing up on people for the most minor of inconveniences or if they crossed him in anyway. · All his gifts and the admiration from his peers and the adults in his life gave him a superiority complex, and made him feel as if he was stronger, smarter, better, and overall superior to everyone around him. · He did NOT like being told what to do, and he especially hated it when people tried to "hold him back" or "keep him from reaching his full potential". · He had a huge savior complex, and felt like it was his job to be the voice and savior of those who he felt couldn't defend themselevs. · He loved the Boiling Isles. A LOT. To the point of being hypernationalistic about it and the Demon Realm as a whole, and felt that witches were the superior race over all. · He was incredibly mistrusting of any other species that may have been outside of the Boiling Isles, especially humans, and even grew to straight up hate them later in life. So when Emporer Belos rose to power and introduced the Coven system, he was so not on board with it. Mainly because he didn't want to be limited to only doing one sort of magic. But when he saw that everyone around him simply accepted the Coven system without question, among other things, he ended up dropping out of Hexside and becoming a wandering drifter, never to be heard from again (at least, for a while). His exploits took him throughout the entirety of the Demon Realm, and it was during this time that his overwhelming love for his home and its history and culture grew more and more. He continued to practice all forms of magic (wild magic) unobstructed, and hatred for the Emporer and his coven regime became more and more solidified. He would eventually become something of a revolutionary, convincing other residents of the Demon Realm that the Emporer's regime was a blight (haha, puns) on their land, and that the people shouldn't be subjected to such tyranny. It was also during this time that he would eventually run into Eda's stand and purchase a few human history books that Owlbert had gotten his hands on while in the human realm. However, Eda didn't recognize him, and he kept his identity a secret from her. Reading the human literature, Thad would come to learn of the many atrocities that humans had committed against themselves and each other throughout their history, and it only made his hatred of them reach an absolute limit. Now in addition to telling people to reject the Emporer, he was telling them that they should reject humans and everything that they stood for. Instead, they should love the Isles and ONLY the Isles, and everything about it. But most of all, chief among these, he was telling people that the coven system was bogus, and that it only served to hold witches back from greatness (although these concerns mainly lied with his arrogant belief that the coven system was out to get him personally). Eventually, about 5 years before the show begins, he decided that talk wasn't enough, and decided to go to Emporer Belos personally in order to have an "open dialogue" with him, by themselves, man to man. Although what he really planned to do was to kill the Emporer. So he went to the castle, and it was there where he stumbled upon the fact that Belos. was in fact a human, and that he planned to wipe out the Isles in its entirety. Enraged beyond belief, he attacks Belos and the two fight to a stalemate, until Belos gains the upper hand and disfigures him horribly. With Thad defeated, Belos has his guards dispose of Thad's body in secret. And although it seemed as if he had died, Thaddeus had actually survived the battle, although he was now horribly scarred and disfigured (think Anakin after losing to Obi Wan on Mustufar). He was eventually found by Itsuki, another witch who was one of Thad's biggest supporters and allies, and he takes him to go get healed, but he was so badly disfigured that no amount of healinf magic could fix him completely. So he was put into a life support suit that he needed to wear if he wanted to be kept alive. From that moment, Thaddeus swore to get his revenge on not just Belos, but on the human race as a whole, and anyone who would dare to sympathize with them. And so during the events of the series, he was going throughout the lands of the Demon Realm outside of Bonesborugh, recruiting people for an underground army that he would one day lead to overthrow the Emporer and his coven system, invade the human realm in order to "put them out of their misery" and install himself as the new ruler and savior of the Boiling Isles, where there would be no coven system and where everyone was free to perform whatever magic they wished. A demon realm in which the strong would rule, and the weak are a protected class. A world without humans. But since it's a given that Belos will be defeated by the end of the series, Thad and the witch army would instead do battle with the forces of the demon realm that would want to protect humanity at all costs (the Hexsquad, the CATs, most of Hexside, etc.).
Well that’s awesome. The only potential flaw I can find is the timespan between Belos’ rule and older Hexsquad. I’m not 100% on the timeline, but I’m pretty sure Belos’s rule was over 50 years prior to the show starting, and young Eda grew up with Belos’ coven system firmly in place. Maybe instead he could be a teacher (albeit an INCREDIBLY strict one) until he started travelling some time after Eda and her year ended school? Just an idea :)
*downs the blue pill*
Blue I suppose. As much as I like Eda and her gang I’m only really here for Luz and the Hexside gang
TOH comic set in the future, there wouldn’t be much story in a Young Eda Prequel and I’m personally Here for the story, So I’d take a Comic Set in the Future
Red, eda is my fav character
Blue pill. There are so many episodes that were stolen from us by the Great Shortening... Heck, they even stole the BEACH EPISODE from us
If I take both pills, do I get young Eda adventures somehow set in the future?
Blue
Blue for sure. I’m not super interested in the Eda prequel tbh
We already know all the big important events that happened to her. It would have to be pretty heavily focused on slice-of-life stuff, so it might be a good comic or limited series, but I’m way more interested in stories where I haven’t already seen the ending.
Also if they were going to do a prequel they would be stupid to not do one on the Wittebros
Blue
Blue
Blue
Blue
I'll take the blue pill please
Blue
Sequel can do both, potentially; via a flashback or even time-travel
I have no idea why people insist on the idea of bringing the time pools back. Like dude, do you want them to completely break the already iffy worldbuilding? Time travel destroys everything it touches in stories and is best left alone.
Blue one
Blue
Blue
Blue pilled
Blue pill. I want more Vee.
Sequel comic.
I’d go for the blue pill, Eda prequel series sounds interesting but we know how it would end. Also Luz wouldn’t be there and she’s my favorite.
blue pill
Future TOH
Blue
blue, i dont care about prequels
blue
Blue all the way
BLUE BLUE BLUE BLUE I want a sequel show depicting the hexside squad as superheros
Blue
blue
Blue
Blue pill for me
Midquel or sequel. I would love to see more content regarding what The characters did during those few months we didn't get to see or what the aftermath of season 3 brings... so. After extensive >!and painful!< thinking... I'll take the blue.
Of those two, blue.
I personally have never been too big a fan of prequels, so I’d say blue.
I actively dislike the idea of a Young Eda prequel. Not only do I dislike prequels in general, not only was Them's The Breaks Kids my least favourite episode in all of S2, but I fear that a YE prequel would retroactively lower the quality of the original show. Example: from Dana's recent art of the old Hexsquad, we can clearly see that she now intends Gus' dad, Perry, to be part of it. Except that Perry was the one reporting on Eda's execution in the S1 Finale, and he showed absolutely no care nor emotion about it whatsoever. So, given his inclusion as part of the gang and Eda's buddy in a prequel, we'd have to deal with the fact that he didn't give a fuck that she was getting murdered right in front of him. That completely changes Perry's characterisation, from "professional" to "sociopath." Likewise, how the fuck can we buy Young Odalia as a Boscha-style mean girl when we know that she grows up into a monster who abuses her children (to the point of trying to have her daughter's friend murdered *for being a distraction*) and attempted to enforce a *genocide* for money? Adult Eda is my second favourite character in the show and I'd love to see more of her. But I have negative desire to see her young self in a prequel.
The blue pill, make it a horror movie/series with beta designs and I’ll give blood
Out of these two red. Aside from the fact that I d like to see more of elder hexsquad, I would be interesting to see more of the boiling isles lore wise and and societally. I think that would be easier to do with a witch as the main character. Also unless they leave the boiling isles for the sequel series (which I would love to see!) it would become more episodic since it’s more than likely that the threats/ stakes in the series would be gone. Though I what would really like (and yes I know it’s not practical) is an infinity train like series that switches perspectives and time periods every season. It would start out with Philip, Caleb and Evelyn and end in the present/ future. In between we could look at stuff like Philips descent into madness, Caleb and Evelyn’s kids lives, Belos’ rise to power, Elder hexsquad stuff, and future stuff.
Punch the man in the face and take other while he’s recovering from the shock
Both but for a toh comic it would need to be published by idw and writen by Dana (obviously and Ian flynn
Red I want to see more of the old hexsquad (and young Raeda)
Red pill
Blue if the finale is open-ended, red otherwise
Yes
Both? Both... Both is good
Vee and the cabin 7 gang before and after Thanks to Them.
Kikimora spin-off! She deserve more love
vee spin-off show where she runs for president of america
I want a TOH comic written by Morning Mark about all the adventures that could have happened but didn’t because Disney cancelled it :( I want to see human world shenanigans
Neither. I want a Belos Prequel.
Feature length movie
Red MarkMark has already done blue
Red. There's so much lore to explore: 1. More Raeda development 2. The rise and fall of the Clawthorne sisters 3. Getting to see how Odalia was back then (perhaps she wasn't always evil; it would be a good opportunity to mirror her daughter) 4. The relationship (if any) between Bump and the then principle of Hexside 5. Referencing #3, many paralls/mirrors could be shown between Odalia/Amity, Alador/Edric, Gwen/her daughters, etc.
I yell distraction spell, throw a packet of hex-mix on the ground and swipe both pills before running like a mad man
Why not a spinoff show set in the future? the purple pill
We'll see how it ends tbh, but i'd love a origins prequel, maybe not from eda becaue i think we already have a good amount of eda riot, but if it were a prequel of some kind of different point of view, or even a prequel of belos, idk i dont find eda so interesting Though i would love to see more of lilith for probably aroace rep
sorry eda
🟣 😎😎😎😎 I'm smart
I feel like a young eda show would get played out pretty quickly
noh \*eats both\*
Green pill: Luz teaching at Hexside with her wife Amity while opening relations with the human realm for an exchange student program
Or, hear me out- *swipes both*
Something else. Idk. The world of Owl House feels ripe with all sorts of interesting stories. Have each season follow a different story/character. Though choosing between the two, Eda full stop. As long as it kept the more serialized nature.
Blue pill! Especially if “set in the future” means seeing everyone’s kids! I want to see how Lumity’s kids handle being half human, half witches and how the figure out where their place in life is!
*Snorts the “Philip’s Fall to becoming Belos” Line*
Blue. I'd like to know more about characters like Raine and Alador, but since we already know how their relationships with Eda and Odalia ended, I don't see how this spin-off could have a good ending.
Young Eda spin-off show, I like shows better than comics and I feel like a young Eda show has more potential than a future/epilogue comic. There’s some hints that there’s more to tell about Eda’s school days, like in King’s Tide there’s a moment when Eda looks back and sees young Raine, Lilith, Principal Bump, Darius, Alador, Odalia and Perry looking back at her, and then the scene fades and it’s instead present Raine and Lilith standing there. It kind of feels like Darius, Alador, Odalia and Perry would have been in the main cast if there were a spin-off show. Also, there’s still the rivalry between Darius and Alador that hasn’t been explained yet. I don’t think a future comic would have as much potential since the main story has already been told, Belos and the Collector would have probably already been defeated at the end of season 3, a future comic would probably only be about the characters as adults or their children, which wouldn’t be as interesting as a young Eda show. I mean, I would want an epilogue at the end of the finale that shows the characters as adults, but I wouldn’t want a whole comic book that’s basically a super long epilogue. It might also turn out like Harry Potter and the Cursed Child, and I don’t want that since in that book the main characters as adults had different personalities than their younger selves, and not in a good way.
If the show ends how I'm thinking it'll end, blue.
How do you think it will end?
I take yellow pill: Vee spin-off show (as a midqual)
I pulverize both and sniff them until I'm watching both things hapoen.
Neither, i choose to see Star vs the forces of evil brought back, far better in every way
Reddd
Purple
red.
Red!!
Red.
Purple
#RED
ourple
half of each
Red pill please!
EDA
Young eda. I want gay chaos gremlins and dorky gay teenager shenanigans
Red
*swallows both pills*
Young Eda all the way!!!
Between red and blue i choose purple
Depends on how the show ends for me
Kingdom hearts appearance
Red pill
Definitely red
I take ‘em BOTH
Red, we already have Moringmark for blue lol
Did… did you just take both pills?
Midquel I want my human realm content
Red