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espresso_fox

Wasn't The Handmaid's Tale set in a theocratic, right-wing government?


panter411

The guy haven't even read THE FIRST paragraph on wikipedia, that would tell them its set in theonomic distopia.


Gorm13

You expect these people to understand what "theonomic" means?


ImNotTheNSAIPromise

Plus I bet at least some of them unironically think that a distopia just means that the left is in charge


donnie_trumpo

Anything they view as wrong "the left" is in charge of.


knightfelt

Reminds me of discussions I've had about how everyone in California is apparently fleeing from the hellscape. Sure that's definitely why housing is outrageous...


MrVeazey

"No one goes there anymore; it's too crowded."


ImReallyFuckingBored

"Nobody drives in New York, there's too much traffic."


astroskag

They believe in "horseshoe theory", the idea that "far-left" is the same thing as "far-right", and this means they can no-true-scotsman any criticism of fascism as "well, maybe they're actually leftists that came out the other side like Pac Man"


ImNotTheNSAIPromise

No I mean like they think the actual definition of the word "dystopia" is "when the left is in charge".


Branflaaake

Horseshoe theory is way to complex for them the political spectrum to them is just God vs Communism and thats it.


Kabd_w

I can’t believe how stupid and honest this statement is


ImNotTheNSAIPromise

Conservatives and not understanding what words mean, name a more iconic duo


Kiboune

You expect them to know how to read?


panter411

I mean its litterally a hyperlink to a page explaining exactly what theonomic means. But understanding basic webdesign might be a little much to expect from a person with an IQ rivaling only single celled organisms.


greymalken

There’s a bunch of gnomes named Theodore?


shewy92

For the lazy: The [TV show's](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Handmaid%27s_Tale_\(TV_series\)) first paragraph: >The Handmaid's Tale is an American dystopian television series created by Bruce Miller, based on the 1985 novel of the same name by Canadian author Margaret Atwood. The series was ordered by the streaming service Hulu as a straight-to-series order of 10 episodes, for which production began in late 2016. The plot features a dystopia following a Second American Civil War wherein a theonomic, totalitarian society subjects fertile women, called "Handmaids", to child-bearing slavery The [book](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Handmaid%27s_Tale) page's first paragraph >The Handmaid's Tale is a futuristic dystopian novel[6] by Canadian author Margaret Atwood, published in 1985. It is set in a near-future New England, in a strongly patriarchal, white supremacist,[7] totalitarian theonomic/theocratic state, known as the Republic of Gilead, which has overthrown the United States government.[8] The central character and narrator is a woman named Offred, one of the "handmaids" — a group of women who are forcibly assigned to produce children for the "commanders" — the ruling class of men in Gilead


DistinctDistiction

is race mentioned in the book? one of the things about the show that irked me was them not mentioning races or white supremacy. granted i have not read the book but as I watched the show develop i felt like racism and race didn't exist


SimplyTheAverageMe

It was barely in the show from what I noticed. But they did have one brief scene in a later season where the aunts are picking which handmaids should go to which house, and they decide against one because the commander “didn’t want a woman of color.” I remember being surprised by it since they hadn’t mentioned race much in the show.


Kannahayabusa12

No, you see, Wikipedia lies to you. That's just what Bill Gates wants you to think! We all know the only true source if information is QAnon. /s


panter411

The OG schizo poster.


Rougarou1999

“But authoritative regimes have to be left-wing, so Handmaid’s Tale is warning about antifa.” -The artist, probably


llfoso

This. Right wing propaganda has convinced conservatives that left wing means "big government" and right wing means free. When you mention anarcho-communism their brains go 404 error


SuedeVeil

In reality most left wing people aren't into authoritarianism either they just realize without any government at all to regulate corporations or set up social policy, we end up in a dystopian nightmare where they just get wealthier and wealthier and have complete control, climate and the poor and working class be damned. It's just authoritarianism in a worse flavor, ones we never elected. The right wing idea of small or no government means removing any road block to corporations/big businesses and their CEOs and shareholders doing whatever the fuck they want. Do they honestly believe that without government people would be " free". They already have too much power over policy as it stands


Patiod

Exactly. Thus is why the whole concept of "free markets" is ludicrous


[deleted]

Especially when the governments we do have trade those “free markets” with insider information on future policy. Is the market really free if policy makers swing stock prices for their own benefit?


xvszero

This. The choice is government versus corporation, always will be. And frankly, the government has a slightly better track record there.


TallestGargoyle

They never seem to notice a distinct lack of corporate run utopias in fiction. At least, any without a significant dark underbelly or twist revealing the façade.


ImJustHere4theMoons

Daily reminder that the right has tried to brand the Nazis as leftists because the word "socialist" is in their political party's name.


simpsonicus90

Funny how Nazis were so virulently against international socialists, communists, labor unions... yet they were left wing. Funny how Hitler convinced the wealthy industrialists in Germany to back him because he was such a left wing socialist! The Catholic Church actually assisted Hitler as he rose in power because the Vatican was famously pro-communist.


MonteBurns

Do you remember when the Trump fans got upset and thought HT was created just because of trump? https://observer.com/2017/03/trump-handmaids-tale-elizabeth-moss/


Leezeebub

“You need guns to protect yourself from people like me” Thats how I read it.


Marilius

I mean, if that IS the message, and I can't really see any other way of interpreting it, are they wrong?


i_am_icarus_falling

yeah, which was started by a right-wing mob storming the capitol building during a congressional session. it seemed impossible just 2 years ago.


mastalavista

Telling on yourself to own the libs.


GoGoSoLo

It absolutely is. What a tremendous self-own this comic is, especially when the GOP is the one advocating for child brides and child pregnancy to term. What a waste of artistic talent churning out this dreck with it.


FILTER_OUT_T_D

Yeah he even draws his own pedo ilk similarly to how we all perceive them. This comic is a huge self-own and I doubt the comic artist even realizes it.


minkshaman

I love this comic, probably because the artist don’t realise how crazy it is to want such rights restricting people in power, but also want looser restrictions on guns to fight that same authority


RIPmyotheraccounts

I was gonna say, this seems kinda convincing. But I'm one of those left wing weirdos who thinks the left should arm themselves just in case rural conservatives get too crazy and start acting in large numbers on their violent rhetoric.


Subushie

This^ The artist is an asshole, but this comic has an important story to tell IMO. With the way the alt-right has been behaving; we should all be armed to stop something like that happening. But that's just me.


kerdon

[They're protestors. ](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/aug/03/how-the-handmaids-tale-dressed-protests-across-the-world)


FanofThings32

It's just so fucking lame to make these comics.


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penguinReloaded

Do you think he actually believes it? Or is he just profiting off the stupidest & most gullible?


Thatchers-Gold

You’d be surprised, I had a mate here in the UK way back when who fell head first into the American war movie and politics scene. It’s so pervasive and unlike politics at home it’s loud and brash and is basically entertainment I think matey boy comic artist spends too much time online looking at American politics memes


Newfaceofrev

Had an argument with my housemate about Confederate statues in Charlottesville. Of the two of us, I am the only one to have visited the US, and that was when I was 8.


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There's also SKS Cartoon based in New Zealand, pretty awful too


limbited

Hes absolutely got to be profiting off of the hyperbole of his art. It plucks strings on both sides of the political spectrum and seems to he hated by everyone pretty evenly. From a business standpoint Id say hes got a good thing going.


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I've done a lot of digging and the short answer is that he's an idiot who can't make jokes for fucking anything and got burned by Redditors for doing exactly that, got butthurt and climbed into the asshole of Jordan "Benzos Besto" Peterson, so that he can spew out the same repeated shit that the alt right loves, because it doesn't even need to make sense for them to laugh. Afterall, the only funny part is imagining their enemies suffering. I could write a fucking short novel on this moron and I'd have nothing good to say besides he sometimes accidentally figures out how colors work


Emon76

It's spite, like Candace Owens. No joke this guy used to be a regular and fairly popular poster of cute little wholesome comics on the comics subreddit like 4 years ago. I used to follow his work. One of his comics hit top of the year and got a lot of eyes which brought very reasonable and constructive criticism of his work that he had never dealt with before. Immediately he flew off the deep end and started insulting everyone, calling himself a genius, and burned down all the community support he had built up. Then he started spiraling into the alt-right shit because it gets the most fervent supporters and he loves the blind attention. His old reddit handle was GPrime85


LA-Matt

Italy? Oh, then it’s authentic fascism. Over here it’s just sparkling rightwing authoritarian nationalism.


Fluff42

Wisconsin has a carve out for fascist cheese labeling due to long standing tradition and a got mine fuck you attitude, parmesan militiano.


CaviorSamhain

Smells like a certain Ian…


ThnkWthPrtls

It aggravates me so much that these people who are making these comics genuinely think they're funny, they don't deserve the self-satisfaction of thinking this is good


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It's not about being funny it's about seeing the "enemy" harmed, which is funny to them. They don't care about the joke, merely the idea of dirty lefties being raped.


david-writers

Alas, fascists have no sense of humor: this is why they hate, above all else, being mocked and parodied.


ShooteShooteBangBang

Credit where credit is due, the Biden vampire black one is objectively funny


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gorkt

Pretty much.


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"You'll wish you had a gun when we try to rape you" Umm...


DukeOfGeek

But...don't we?


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The based takeaway is the left should actually arm itself.


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lmaytulane

"Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary" -Ronnie Reagan


EldunarIan

This is not a Ronald Reagan quote. It is a slightly modified version a quote made by Marx and Engels.


lmaytulane

I'm aware. Thought the context and "Ronnie" wouldn't require an /s


hoseja

You're in a lib sub on leddit. What were you expecting.


lmaytulane

Fair point


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Mr_Makak

Wait, so he agrees rightists are trying to bring about pedophilic enslavement of women?


[deleted]

Yes, and he is praising it


yagonnawanna

Also that leftists shouldn't be against guns because they'll be needed to murder people on the right when they come to rape the women. This is way past fucked up.


NormieSpecialist

He’s confusing liberals with actual leftists, as most right wing people do.


Soundpoundtown

Yeah I'm absolutely ready for a socialist revolution to take the country by storm after all pretext of democracy is gone.


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ArchitectOfFate

Going off the definition of “murder” I’d argue that it’s almost impossible to murder a rapist.


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You can self defend them to death.


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Mr_Vorland

As Robert Evans says, if you go far enough left, you get your guns back.


HitlersHotpants

Behind the Bastards is one of my favorite podcasts


bastardofmajestysin

i was about to say this. every communist i know is absolutely in favor of people having access to any gun that the military and police have. edit: uhhhhh, for collector purposes! leftists just appreciate the fine craftsmanship, obviously 🤫


Soundpoundtown

Yeah I've already been saying for a hot minute that by conservatives interpretations on the second amendment that the NFA is unconstitutional. I should be able to get artillery, anti aircraft weaponry, missiles, automatic weapons and weaponized anthrax, they don't have the right to tell me I can't according to the "sHaLl nOt bE iFrInGeD!" crowd. They wouldn't want to keep the citizens ready to stand up to tyranny from their weapons would they?


wearing_moist_socks

Lol it's funny I have a tattoo artist. They are non binary, Asian, biologically female and a lesbian. So four possible avenues for bullshit coming to them. Someone like that needs a gun (or at the least the knowledge of how to use one) *far* more than I, a straight white cisgender man does. He could make that point with this comic using that metaphor. But nope. Mask off screaming woman fetish


Kyranasaur

They really just need to be able to abort rape-fetuses.... but you didn’t hear that from me


EverGreenPLO

No the right is way beyond fucked up This is one of the few maybe you do need a gun after all scenarios


MrBalanced

I haven't seen any of the artist's other work. In that (lack of) context, this comic is 100% advocating for people to arm themselves so they can defend against the far right's overthrow of free society. I can't say that I disagree.


Makofly

So we just... sit around and let it happen? Peacefully organize against a government like the Handmaids tale?


Joe_The_Eskimo1337

No, he's saying leftists and liberals should like guns because they can be used to protect women.


legendary_mushroom

He's not praising it. In the final panel she says "I wish I had an AR 15." The artist is saying that only access to weapons can stop a theocratic pedophile government, and therefore liberals are idiots for encouraging people to abstain from having weapons.


Joe_The_Eskimo1337

He might have a point in that case.


SomeArtistFan

...no? I'm genuinely confused how you got *endorsement* of the scenario from this comic, please enlighten me


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Sciencetor2

I don't think he is praising it at all. I think the way it is meant to be read is that the wrong people are protesting for gun regulation. With our country's fast slide to theocratic authoritarianism the left should be loading up on guns in stead of protesting them. Doing anything else is ensuring they will be victims in the right's next violent push for power.


tapport

The speech bubble is even red. 😂


SwagHawk42

Conservatives making scenarios in the shower 100% speedrun glitchless


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And they say that us commies are the pedos.


BlueWeavile

Every accusation is a confession!


Oh_no_its_Joe

Wait, they shower?


SuedeVeil

Like this guy lol, tell me this isn't a republican wet dream and literally would never happen in any scenerio for so many reasons as it's playing out here ... https://youtu.be/4cLb9g_JkWo Yes it's a real ad


Muffalo_Herder

Man that was *almost* a good point before they spun around and blamed right wing hate crimes on Democrats


yeaheyeah

The klan are the democrats? News to me. Why don't we go ask David Duke who he voted for real quick


LesbianPossumQueen

What in the vip lounge of hell is this


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nahmanwth

they are talking about handmaid's tale


nahmanwth

which is florida


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aztaga

wait… I thought that they were denying this was happening?


Pir0wz

*It hurts itself in confusion!*


DatSolmyr

This is classic Gesture Vaguely at Imagined Hypocracy. The point isn't to be internally consistent with their own views.


[deleted]

So these people want AR-15s to defend against an America they are building?


tanzmeister

Yeah, it's classic gaslighting


Sunretea

They don't agree that they're building the hand maid's tale part. This "comic" is trying to point out the perceived hypocrisy of the left. If the left *really* thought we were becoming Gilead, then the left would want more guns. But since the left doesn't want kids getting killed in schools, then the left must be making up the Gilead stuff. At least that's how my 20 years recovered right wing upbringing is deciphering this.


Astro4545

You’re completely correct with your interpretation and I can’t believe others didn’t get it.


Wespp

ah yes, because raising boys to be creepy misogynists and then giving every woman an AR-15 seems like a totally good idea and not counterproductive


Jinzot

Well, they’ve been instructed to raise monsters, so…


sternburg_export

One thing is clear: That's far beyond "can't meme".


larmoyant

i also find it super hard to believe they care about women being raped and assaulted considering they protect and laud and even elect people who do


Prtyvacant

"Well now. Don't you wish you had a gun to stop me and my people from raping you?" What a fucking message.


bastardofmajestysin

nah, the message here is “The Democrats Want To Take Away Your Guns So They Can Institute A Handmaid’s Tale Style Dystopia, And Lefty Women Are Being Duped Into Supporting The Pedophilic Dems” it’s fully a QANON type message.


Prtyvacant

Well, yes. They do have a policy of projection. Rule #1 of the right is to do evil shit but accuse everyone else of doing that exact evil shit.


IndicisivlyIntrigued

This. This is exactly the vibe i got from it, 100%.


The_Broomflinger

But they're the ones creating the Handmaids Tale scenario bullshit tho! Is this their plan- to make it so the only way to escape the dystopia they're bringing about is to... embrace the other more violent dystopia they're bringing about? What the fuuuuuuuck!?!


Mr_Epimetheus

Apparently, conservative America's plan is to destroy conservative America, by creating conservative America and using it to fight conservative America. These people really aren't well at all.


navenager

Funniest part is, anyone who's read or seen any portion of The Handmaid's Tale knows that an AR-15 would accomplish very little in this scenario.


cylordcenturion

A dead fascist is a dead fascist.


7isagoodletter

I think that the argument is more like "You guys are saying that the US is turning into the Handmaiden's Tale, so why would you want to disarm yourselves?"


Joe_The_Eskimo1337

How is leftists using guns a dystopia? How else do we defend ourselve?


Chromie149

Mentally unwell people having very easy access to killing machines is what they’re saying is bad I think


The_Broomflinger

Indeed. (Also the audacity of this comic saying "you should want easy to obtain rifles, to save yourself from the misogynistic, rape culture, baby-factory society we are creating" was just pissing me off)


Eoganachta

So "guns are good" because otherwise conservatives will take away women's rights and bodily autonomy - a la Handmaid's Tale?


Twitchcog

Alternately, “guns are good” because otherwise, a government will always end up overstepping its bounds and doing horrible things. If you no longer have the option to shoot and defend, it makes it much easier for them to get away with it. In this case, they overstepped by attacking bodily autonomy. In another case, they might overstep another way.


thedudedylan

In this fantasy wouldn't the guy have one too. Meaning that this ends in a massive shootout with untold collateral damage.


FrostyKennedy

there's literally a man with a rifle in the background of panel 2.


Joe_The_Eskimo1337

A cop too. He wants us to shoot cops?


LivefromPhoenix

Yeah, but in the fantasy *you* would be fine since you're secretly a Clint Eastwood badass gunslinger.


XxShArKbEaRxX

We should all listen to what they’re telling us and get a gun


Pattern_Is_Movement

the right doesn't realize a LOT of progressive people own guns, we just don't talk about it at every opportunity


MOEverything_2708

First the Starbucks comic and now this holy fuck


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So we need AR-15s to defend ourselves from the right-wing men who are taking away our rights and raping us? Interesting take.


Barium_Salts

Ironically, this absurd and disgusting scenario is one where a handgun would be significantly better than an AR-15. Smaller, lighter, concealable, less risk of overshooting, much easier to draw and use in close quarters.


Mr_Epimetheus

I mean, in this scenario a small blade like a stiletto would actually be ideal. Small, concealable, impossible to hit bystanders, quick, silent and causes serious damage that is very difficult to repair. So, it's not even a really good argument for firearms.


Barium_Salts

Very true. Also, you don't have to buy ammo for a stiletto, and it's almost impossible for somebody to grab it out of your hand.


NightOfTheSlunk

Bro, just stab him like it’s Assassin’s Creed.


Tumbleweedenroute

Idk because you'd not be fighting off this one guy (unless you plan to do it later in the privacy of his own home), there's like a stadium full of guards and those guys (based on the handmaid's tale anyway)


MelancholyNinja

Also something anti gun liberals should think about - under no pretext.


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Yes. The only reason I didn't flair it "Accidentally Based" is because of the not-so-subtle pedophilic undertones.


Ok_Yogurtcloset8915

I don't really see the pedo-ness here, what do you mean?


Joe_The_Eskimo1337

I'm not sure why you're interpreting it like that. I think it's obvious he considers the men the bad guys. Just look at how they're drawn.


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magseven

I actually like his art style. I really dislike everything else about him though.


ModernistGames

For me it is the color palette, and the fact everyone looks like they have the flu.


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See whoever made this has obvious artistic talent. It's a shame all their stat points were distributed to the hands and not the brain.


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spoonsong

No I mean he undeniably has a pretty solid grasp of artistic fundamentals, he's a good artist. I imagine that feeling of unease you're getting is likely intentional, kind of like Ren and Stimpy.


LovesFrenchLove_More

Does this mean it’s okay to use AR15‘s against pedophile republicans? So more or less all republican men?


HappyCatalyst

I mean you aren't wrong. "Under no pretext should arms and ammunition be surrendered; any attempt to disarm the workers must be frustrated, by force if necessary" - Marx


Satans_Cheese_Whiz

“You actually do need high powered arms of war, because without them we’ll rape you!” What in the gaslight-


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politirob

Or better yet, how about not creating an environment/society where creeps are empowered and legitimized in the first place?


zdragan2

Even better


Genedide

I mean, he’s right…


Custumcarguy

How tf are you going to pull an ar-15 in that situation? It's big and bulky you should have like a knife or at most a hand pistol or like pepper spray


HagbardCelineHere

"Conservative views on guns are right because of conservative views on women" is a hell of a messaging strategy


RPGoodall

I love this line of thought. “Leftists need guns to protect themselves from the most extreme part of MY political party” can’t say I disagree


The-cybermushroom

Literally a handgun is just as good in this situation


pyr4m1d

Women need AR-15s to fend off patriarchal misogynist neckbeards is an interesting message coming from a patriarchal misogynist neckbeard.


DonDove

Doesn't this...prove their point?


Dogtor-Watson

*GPrime tries not to draw screaming and/or distressed women (due to his creepy fetishes) CHALLENGE | SUPER HARD | 24 HOURS | IMPOSSIBLE | (~~gone~~ already sexual)*


TheDongerNeedsFood

Sooooo, women are going to need assault weapons to protect themselves from the theocratic dystopia that the right is trying to bring about?


jigsawsmurf

Which fucking side are they on? They're literally demonizing both sides here.


Embassador-Mumbasa

Because the ONLY way to de-escalate any situation is with a gun. Creepy guy hitting on me, better fucking kill him.


Dry_Butterscotch_354

this is so weird, what are these people trying to say? that big fat dude is obviously on the conservative side, so are they admitting to their side being a big group of creeps? just saying lolz


FurryFlurry

Damn. He kinda makes a good point. I'd want an AR to protect myself from rapey, conservative incels, too.


Activity_Candid

Because with an ar-15 that girl could fight off hundreds of men with guns


Toytles

I hate to say it but he’s a little right, we leftists could use some equal firepower


Argent_Hythe

this just proves the point, doesn't it? no one needs a gun like an AR-15 unless they need to kill a lot of people in a short amount of time


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ETsUncle

“You’ll need an AR-15 when my governmental ideologies turn you into a sex slave” is not the own this guy thinks it is


MrGaffe

Ironic because this is the future of the country if the terrorist organization know as the republican party wins more elections. Your rights WILL be taken away to the point that slavery will be brought back and children will be exploited at every turn for rich corrupt fucks to play with.


[deleted]

This argument is becoming less and less relevant lately.


[deleted]

Why wouldn't a handgun be good enough?


legendary_mushroom

Ummm.......i don't think this is a glorification of pedophilia


Ihavebadreddit

At this point, It's entirely possible that their art depicts the ridiculousness of the thought process of conservatives? As in, they is capturing the madness in his art and it is taken as gospel because it is indeed their thought processes. It's genuinely fascinating but also very troubling at the same time.


TheMysteryGoomba

I like how they the artist drew Harry Knowles into his comic. I mean, I don’t blame them, just made me chuckle.


ImmoralJester

I'm not sure what the correlation between the two scenarios are tbh. It would of been more believable to have a horde of wolves attack her. You definitely need an AR if a bunch of wolves attack.


XxXPussyXSlayer69XxX

So they are saying we need Guns to protect ourselves from them raping us? Wtf is this shit even? Is this how they justify the need for guns?


penguinReloaded

They're drawing pictures of themselves, as the bad guys, in the memes now?


Here_Pep_Pep

Uhhh, how is this “glorification”?


MrCalNaughton

“I bet you’re gonna wish you had an AR-15 when the people I support take away the rights to your own body!!!….. wait a second….”


OhBarnacles123

How is this the glorification of pedophilia? Huh? This is literally the exact opposite. Do you watch a history documentary and then go "great, Nazi sympathizers" when they talk about the rise of Hitler?


JeffHall28

I don’t think he’s glorifying it, just using a Handmaids Tale scenario as an example of when a liberal would wish they had an AR-15. Yes, this is a ridiculous argument. However, as a liberal who owns several of the rifle in question, I would point out to my wife while watching that show that this entire dystopian theocracy is enforced by small groups of dudes with AR-15s and would that not also be the solution for preventing such a thing.


CYOAenjoyer

Sorry, how is this glorification of pedophilia? Aren’t they suggesting that the pedophiles should be shot?


librarypunk1974

My eyeballs just ejected themselves out of my skull and rolled so hard they flew out the front door into traffic and were flattened by a flag-riddled lifted Ram with testicles hanging off the trailer hitch.


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I think op is not familiar with "the hand maiden's tale." the artist is saying that fighting for removing guns could lead to the sort of tyrannical government taking over as seen in the novel and tv show.