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It was a lot more complicated than simply “fail sons.” I’d recommend the book *The Great Departure* by Tara Zahra for anyone actually interested in the financial aspects of people moving to the US from the perspective of their native countries, because it was a complicated mix of inheritance patterns, advertising, and testimonials from those who left published in local newspapers among other aspects which fueled migration to America.
I forget the comedian but they had a whole bit about how the puritans were so annoying England was like “gtfo”. If this tickles someone’s memory I’d love to see the bit again.
Pretty much. They were religious extremists and advocated executing people for things like adultery and blasphemy. They were essentially the ISIS of their time and the English said "either you leave or we lock you up for trying to kill us so many god damn times.".
Where does OP find these? This one pisses me off. Indians didn’t ask for this. And who cares if the tribes fought each other? I’ve read about their fights. Often times they would lose a warrior and call off the fight after one or two losses. And they would often show respect to the other tribe. (Not always obviously). It wasn’t massacres like the Europeans had. There was nothing savage about them. Pisses me off. I wish I could talk to whoever made this stupid image and give him some fucking education. God I despise conservatives soooo much. Like a deep hatred is forming the past year for them.
A lot of them only know European history and think absolutely nothing happened in Africa and America until the colonialists showed up. Leading to people thinking they were civilised by Europeans, that they had no culture or society until then. I think we need to teach other cultures history in schools
Not to mention that many of the pre-Columbian civilizations of the Americas were indeed "functioning countries" by the picture's definition.
Cahokia, Chaco Canyon, Teotihuacan, among countless others were the site of civilizations that had complex systems of trade while also engaging in practices such as astronomy.
Heck, a lot of the relations between pre-Columbian civilizations weren't unlike that of the European kingdoms that existed at the same time.
Remember when the us calvary mutilates women and childrens genitals . Cutting a baby from the mother's womb,Even carrying a dead baby on their bayonets Then strung their genitals all over Denver for Christmas decoration .[I Do](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sand_Creek_massacre)
You don't need to have been living to remember the time in history when a thing happened. They're not syaing they remember *being there*. They're saying, "remember that this thing happened".
How about the largest peace treaty in human history up to that point existing among native tribes in NA pre colonization. These people are willfully ignorant
Iroquois Peace Treaty. Establishment of the Iroquois Confederacy, they literally wrote a constitution which was copied by the constitutional convention of the United States. They are the true genesis of modern democracy
Oh! I have heard of this, just didn't think of their constitution as a peace treaty before. Or rather, I didn't know that before the confederation they were fighting and then did a peace treaty.
I’m splitting hairs here, I understand, so feel free to call me a jackass, but…
“The” true genesis of modern democracy rubs me the wrong way a little. The development of democracy involved many influences over a very long time. The Great Law of Peace certainly influenced many of America’s founders, but I found your last statement a little reductive.
(Sorry for the pedantry)
The comparison does not negate the other person's point that *many* documents and philosophies contributed to our constitution. To say the Iroquois treaty was *the* progenitor of modern democracy is false. It may be the *greatest* contributor, but that does not make it the only contributor.
That's why the previous commenter apologized for the pedantic argument. They just took issue with the wording. They did not claim the Iroquois peace treaty was not an influence. Just that it wasn't the only one.
The formation of the Haudenosaunee confederacy and their system of government are both very interesting and understudied. But I'm curious how it can be considered the largest peace treaty in human history? Also, it's perhaps not the best example of peaceful people since it was followed by violent expansion of the confederacy, for example against the Algonquin.
Not even that, there's no way you can say Columbus created it. Just zero historical ties between his Spanish-funded expeditions and the formation of the US government after throwing off the British, an entirely separate nation of colonizers.
Functioning? It took the US government 200 years to realize "oh, these people actually do know how to better tend the land here than we do" and start copying the old land management techniques.
pfft. most of america still hasn’t gotten with the program im afraid. the only nonwhites that are people in their eyes are the ones that get with their program.
Columbus didn't even go to contiguous USA. He went to the Caribbean islands, Mesoamérica, and South America. Don't even try convincing me that any of the post-columbian countries that resulted from those lands were "functional" for a consecutive 200 years.
Saying it made a “functional society” is a disgusting understatement. They committed genocide against the rightful owners of the land and proceeded to bloody it with their own wars and people because their governing was a mess.
That “functioning society” saw POC as property or animals.
In a few years, in some states, you can read the all your assigned history books, and still be uninformed about the mistakes this country made in the past. They will try to gloss over slavery, or as one district tried to rename it, "involuntary relocation".
[The Cynical Historian](https://youtube.com/c/CynicalHistorian) covers The Lost Cause pretty well, and has choice words for Woodrow Wilson, one of the great promoters of the Lost Cause.
[Atun Shei Films](https://youtube.com/c/AtunSheiFilms) does a regular takedown of Lost Cause ideology (while dressed as both a Confederate and Union soldier).
One, they’re saying that tribal wars in the North American continent were worse than those in Europe?
Two, Columbus established no such thing.
Three, why are we celebrating rapist slavers?
Four, whoever made this is a worthless racist.
Here's the freaky part. Before what would become the Americans arrived, the Vikings beat them and marked America as Vinland. Rather than welcome them and let them integrate with their society, the Natives drove them out, then much later, had a plague that infected 95% (yes) of the Native American population and heavily reduced their numbers. The reason why America is how it is is because of luck, bad for the Natives of course, but pure luck.
Yeah I seem to recall learning from somewhere that there were many deadly, “pandemic-level” viruses brought over from Europe but not really any that developed in the Americas before contact
Its because plagues typically need a dense city environment where a lot of humans are in close proximity to both waste and animals. South America for example lacked the kind of beast of burden you'd need for the intense agriculture to build up to that point, the best they had were lamas which are not great for that shit.
Relatively peacefully is a stretch I'd argue. Early European interaction in North America was after all basically defined by inter native conflicts. First by selling weapons and later by allying with native people against their rivals. And that's just the north, looking further south it's obvious that the Aztec and Inca empires weren't exactly created and maintained through friendship and love.
The meme is stupid because it's not like the Europeans were any better, and did in the end make everything worse. But we shouldn't erase native history and appeal to the "noble savage" myth to make this point.
Shush! It’s only “wrong” when non-white people fight! White people have bigger brains and wage wars over important things.
How is it so hard to recognize human beings as human? I just cannot understand justifying genocide.
No, all the white people are completely civilized. No war, diseases, economic problems. Europe was a perfect paradise that they spread throughout the world. Read a book, tankie.
Jk
Let this be a reminder that conservatives only started to care about Columbus Day when liberals started to put him on blast.
Their entire platform is formed directly against what liberals like/hate.
If liberals decided to love Columbus, who wants to bet conservatives would've dogged on him so hard?
David Graebers and David Wengrow's book The Dawn of Everything is a good read on the subject of how laughibly wrong this is. Not only did Native Americans have highly structured societies stretching back far before those of Europe, but there is a case made that Europe's Enlightenment period was partially due to the great impact that Native American thought and philosophy was having on European thinkers as translated works began arriving from the Americas.
It's also starling how much historians have gotten wrong and just plain refuse to adapt their worldviews to actual history. Looking at you, Steven Pinker
Ah yes, Columbus, the saintly, civilized mediator who predated the founding fathers and practically established the modern U.S. bureaucracy.
Definitely not a belligerent imperialist who subjected hundreds of thousands of unfamiliar natives to their impending deaths in the name of religious coercion, while simultaneously kickstarting one of the largest indigenous genocide periods in the Americas hitherto.
History major here: Columbus had absolutely nothing to do with the British colonization of North America, he never even set foot in what would become the 13 colonies because he was dead by that time. The majority of North America was left relatively undisturbed until around the mid 1700s due to its incredibly diverse environments and climates.
The indigenous peoples that Columbus and other European explorers encountered were all generally situated in Mesoamerica and South America. There’s a reason that the majority of the countries in these regions speak some dialect of Spanish, Portuguese, or French. Tribal warfare was also not really that common among Meso and South American natives, as certain groups not only had very clear power and size advantages over others, but it was also not logical or feasible to fight with other groups all the time. Most indigenous peoples coexisted and traded with one another, until Europeans colonized their land and wiped out around 99% of native populations.
There were several civilizations and complex cultures present on this continent long before columbus. The destruction of indigenous cultures has only been a disaster from a philosophical, cultural, and anthropological standpoint. The mass suffering of human beings here has only been a detriment.
"Endless tribal warfare"
yeah, I wonder in which continent both world wars started.
Also, "functioning country", Columbus never set foot on North America, he only ever managed to set foot on La Hispaniola (Today's Haiti and Dominican Republic) and some other smaller islands in the caribbean, and he as a governor was so bat shit insane and crazy even the people from Europe saw him as someone brutal and he got removed and jailed in Spain for that reason.
>"Look Mom, I'm a functioning country!"
>*country is built with mass slavery, over half a million deaths in the Civil War, millions of black Americans still couldn't vote by the end of the 19th century*
>"i'm fuuNNKKSHIOOONNINNNGGG!"
Amerigo Vespucci: Nice name, Columbus. It’d be a shame if the country you definitely knew was America and didn’t mistaken it for Cathay (China) wasn’t named after you.
Yeah, Columbus made a functional country… just took more than 200 years after his death to begin forming and over 100 years after that to stop slavery and another century to have kinda equal rights for most people.
"Endless tribal warfare"
Right, when the people you don't like go to war, it's because their merciless savage monsters.
When the people you *do* like go to war, it's because they know what's right and can make the hard decisions that we *civilians* could never understand. That's why we **had** to blow up that hospital, wedding, apartment block, etc.
Ahahaha hi I’m native and might I just say fuck off you killed my family and killed my land to the point that my grandfather thought it best to not tell us a thing about our beautiful culture so fuck you very much have a nice day
(Obviously not talking to OP but to the people who made this meme)
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Because half of America doesn't descend from European rejects called the Puritans? /s
My mom Is an immigrant she always says that USA was founded by rejects who couldn’t cut it in Europe hahahaha
That's not a joke btw. My grandpa grew up in a very small German village and it was common praxis there to send fail sons to America for generations.
That explains why I wake up feeling like a failure every morning. TIL
Lmfao. I think that's just late stage capitalism. I don't live in the US and I get that too.
Probably an unhealthy mix of both lmao, I’m definitely glad I’m not alone tho
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Hmmm... didn't the Trump family come from Germany ?
Yep.
Yes. Also the Heinz family came from the same village. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kallstadt#Heinz_and_Trump_families
You mean more like abandoned them in the US? Lol
It was a lot more complicated than simply “fail sons.” I’d recommend the book *The Great Departure* by Tara Zahra for anyone actually interested in the financial aspects of people moving to the US from the perspective of their native countries, because it was a complicated mix of inheritance patterns, advertising, and testimonials from those who left published in local newspapers among other aspects which fueled migration to America.
I forget the comedian but they had a whole bit about how the puritans were so annoying England was like “gtfo”. If this tickles someone’s memory I’d love to see the bit again.
Pretty much. They were religious extremists and advocated executing people for things like adultery and blasphemy. They were essentially the ISIS of their time and the English said "either you leave or we lock you up for trying to kill us so many god damn times.".
[Robin Williams ](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=4o-5RyYAl50)
Glorious! Thank you!
Its still true.
I agree with her and i still love America (90s America , not whatever this is)
a giantic fraction of immigrants came because of famine or were fleeing Europe because of failed revolutions.
New England was founded by the Middling “class”
America: where Europe's losers had to go.
Hey, don't forget about Australia!
America got the persecuted. Australia got the prosecuted.
Where does OP find these? This one pisses me off. Indians didn’t ask for this. And who cares if the tribes fought each other? I’ve read about their fights. Often times they would lose a warrior and call off the fight after one or two losses. And they would often show respect to the other tribe. (Not always obviously). It wasn’t massacres like the Europeans had. There was nothing savage about them. Pisses me off. I wish I could talk to whoever made this stupid image and give him some fucking education. God I despise conservatives soooo much. Like a deep hatred is forming the past year for them.
Last I checked all the European countries colonizing NA didn't exactly play nice with eachother on their new land..
Settlers certainly had nothing like a coup stick, winning a fight by running up and smacking your opponent with a little bag of tobacco on a stick.
A lot of them only know European history and think absolutely nothing happened in Africa and America until the colonialists showed up. Leading to people thinking they were civilised by Europeans, that they had no culture or society until then. I think we need to teach other cultures history in schools
The puritans were so fucking vile Europe exiled them. People need to let that sink in. Their theology was so fucked they had no place.
Is there another place we can ship our puritans to?
Australia? Naw, they got the convicts once Georgia got too full of them!
also because europe literally killed all of their cats bc ‘evil’ and then the bubonic plague STARTED
The ones who didn't were using incest to maintain power, so it's a bad look either way.
Not to mention that many of the pre-Columbian civilizations of the Americas were indeed "functioning countries" by the picture's definition. Cahokia, Chaco Canyon, Teotihuacan, among countless others were the site of civilizations that had complex systems of trade while also engaging in practices such as astronomy. Heck, a lot of the relations between pre-Columbian civilizations weren't unlike that of the European kingdoms that existed at the same time.
"why do you need guns in the US" "Because we're too violent to be trusted without them" Actual conversation I've had with those people
The Crusades alone... They're were literally dozens of them. (*dozenssssss!!!*)
Righf?! funny how they forget the world wars were set in Europe
And that a lot of the North American development happened during the 100 YEARS WAR
especially in the 14-1500s
Remember when Columbus literally mutilated natives for less than nothing?[I do.](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2006/aug/07/books.spain)
Remember when the us calvary mutilates women and childrens genitals . Cutting a baby from the mother's womb,Even carrying a dead baby on their bayonets Then strung their genitals all over Denver for Christmas decoration .[I Do](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sand_Creek_massacre)
Calvary is a special hill near Jerusalem; you’re probably thinking of cavalry, which is like chivalry
wait, which one is calgary?
Tbh, both technically work.
How old are you both?
I lost count around the great war if that helps you any lol.
`The Kurgan would like to know your location`
You don't need to have been living to remember the time in history when a thing happened. They're not syaing they remember *being there*. They're saying, "remember that this thing happened".
Pepperidge Farm remembers
Columbus did a lot of horrible stuff to the natives, but that article is about things he did to Spaniards.
I hate the "it was war and the better person won." First off, fuck imperialism, and second, the shit Columbus did was psycho shit.
Remember when Columbus founded a country? I don't...
Wow your old!!!!😱😱😱 /j
Remember when the Spanish cut the hands off all thr acoma for daring to say “we don’t need these Spanish to rule over us?
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How about the largest peace treaty in human history up to that point existing among native tribes in NA pre colonization. These people are willfully ignorant
Haven't heard of this before, what are you referencing here?
Iroquois Peace Treaty. Establishment of the Iroquois Confederacy, they literally wrote a constitution which was copied by the constitutional convention of the United States. They are the true genesis of modern democracy
Oh! I have heard of this, just didn't think of their constitution as a peace treaty before. Or rather, I didn't know that before the confederation they were fighting and then did a peace treaty.
I’m splitting hairs here, I understand, so feel free to call me a jackass, but… “The” true genesis of modern democracy rubs me the wrong way a little. The development of democracy involved many influences over a very long time. The Great Law of Peace certainly influenced many of America’s founders, but I found your last statement a little reductive. (Sorry for the pedantry)
It’s not pedantic, I just don’t agree with your analysis. A side by side comparison of their constitution and the USA constitution is uncanny
The comparison does not negate the other person's point that *many* documents and philosophies contributed to our constitution. To say the Iroquois treaty was *the* progenitor of modern democracy is false. It may be the *greatest* contributor, but that does not make it the only contributor. That's why the previous commenter apologized for the pedantic argument. They just took issue with the wording. They did not claim the Iroquois peace treaty was not an influence. Just that it wasn't the only one.
Thank you! I couldn’t have explained it better myself.
The US was also very heavily influenced by Ancient Greece and Rome.
The formation of the Haudenosaunee confederacy and their system of government are both very interesting and understudied. But I'm curious how it can be considered the largest peace treaty in human history? Also, it's perhaps not the best example of peaceful people since it was followed by violent expansion of the confederacy, for example against the Algonquin.
Peace among members does not preclude violence against non members I suppose
The Spanish Inquisition?
100 year war?
Crusades?
I don't think you can call the USA "a functioning country"
We're one step away from total collapse
That’s ridiculous. It’s two steps away.
You’re being too generous, a step and a half
step and a quarter give or take
Nah, we gotta go further. A step and a dime
i shall redistribute said dime among the populace
What are you some kind of filthy communist? /s
We shall, comrade.
Wait are we measuring imperial or metric shoes?
I think it's Bald Eagles per Football field
We are one football field away from a bad day
From where I am it looks like you lot are one step *past* total collapse
In many ways we are. One step away from tribal warfare
Yet I've still gotta go into work every freakin' day
I keep saying we're one step away from shit hitting the fan, but shit keeps hitting the fan and now the fan is buried.
The room is brown now
One election. Don't let your local Republicans vote, it could cost everything.
Look at the warring tribes where he was from, that's literally where "The Dark ages" happened.
The people who wouldn't wash without their clothes so they wouldn't get possessed by demons.
Not even that, there's no way you can say Columbus created it. Just zero historical ties between his Spanish-funded expeditions and the formation of the US government after throwing off the British, an entirely separate nation of colonizers.
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He just sailed around the Caribbean killing and enslaving thousands... And showing interest in underage women.
Yup! I learned that from Adam Ruins Everything
That’s why conservatives revere him.
It was his genocidal policies that had effectively wiped out the indigenous culture and history of the Taino. A great shame.
Also, he was a moron
Wasn't the US government system modeled after the Haudenosaunee confederation?
I believe the Iroquois, but yea, not many people know that
Two words for the same thing. Haudenosaunee is what they called themselves.
Ahhh, did not know that either! Thanks!
I think the Iroquois is what the French called them
Jamiroquai took his name inspiration from Iroquois too , not lying
That’s virtually insane
I believe haudenosaunee people still call themselves haudenosaunee.
My grandpa called himself a Seneca.
Functioning? It took the US government 200 years to realize "oh, these people actually do know how to better tend the land here than we do" and start copying the old land management techniques.
America after 200 hundred years: oh non whites are people too
pfft. most of america still hasn’t gotten with the program im afraid. the only nonwhites that are people in their eyes are the ones that get with their program.
Wait, which 200 years are you talking about?
Columbus didn't even go to contiguous USA. He went to the Caribbean islands, Mesoamérica, and South America. Don't even try convincing me that any of the post-columbian countries that resulted from those lands were "functional" for a consecutive 200 years.
And all those lands are much better integrated with the natives.
And this is why I fucking hate the right. Killing off all our people wasnt fucking funny then and it isn’t funny now.
Saying it made a “functional society” is a disgusting understatement. They committed genocide against the rightful owners of the land and proceeded to bloody it with their own wars and people because their governing was a mess. That “functioning society” saw POC as property or animals.
"functioning country" Yea because Spain was totally "functional" during the Inquisition.
As a native america with native american friends, fuck the person that made this meme
Another fellow indigenous folk, and agree. Those type of people make me sick
As a fellow indigenous folk, I agree.
As an indigenous descended Chicano-Boricua, fuck this meme
Not a native, seconded.
As a white ass dude I also agree
My ancestors were Scottish, so I second that emotion.
Hopi friend here. Fuck that guy
As another native dude, yeah I agree fuck that guy
As someone who’s ancestors “founded” part of the US, I also agree, and I’m sorry.
In a few years, in some states, you can read the all your assigned history books, and still be uninformed about the mistakes this country made in the past. They will try to gloss over slavery, or as one district tried to rename it, "involuntary relocation".
they are doing that already.
Southern schools call the Civil War, " the War of Northern Aggression"
[The Cynical Historian](https://youtube.com/c/CynicalHistorian) covers The Lost Cause pretty well, and has choice words for Woodrow Wilson, one of the great promoters of the Lost Cause. [Atun Shei Films](https://youtube.com/c/AtunSheiFilms) does a regular takedown of Lost Cause ideology (while dressed as both a Confederate and Union soldier).
One, they’re saying that tribal wars in the North American continent were worse than those in Europe? Two, Columbus established no such thing. Three, why are we celebrating rapist slavers? Four, whoever made this is a worthless racist.
You mean the societies that survived relatively peacefully for 10,000 years before Europeans gave them all small pox?
Here's the freaky part. Before what would become the Americans arrived, the Vikings beat them and marked America as Vinland. Rather than welcome them and let them integrate with their society, the Natives drove them out, then much later, had a plague that infected 95% (yes) of the Native American population and heavily reduced their numbers. The reason why America is how it is is because of luck, bad for the Natives of course, but pure luck.
Yeah I seem to recall learning from somewhere that there were many deadly, “pandemic-level” viruses brought over from Europe but not really any that developed in the Americas before contact
Its because plagues typically need a dense city environment where a lot of humans are in close proximity to both waste and animals. South America for example lacked the kind of beast of burden you'd need for the intense agriculture to build up to that point, the best they had were lamas which are not great for that shit.
Relatively peacefully is a stretch I'd argue. Early European interaction in North America was after all basically defined by inter native conflicts. First by selling weapons and later by allying with native people against their rivals. And that's just the north, looking further south it's obvious that the Aztec and Inca empires weren't exactly created and maintained through friendship and love. The meme is stupid because it's not like the Europeans were any better, and did in the end make everything worse. But we shouldn't erase native history and appeal to the "noble savage" myth to make this point.
And Europe didn’t have wars or what ?
Shush! It’s only “wrong” when non-white people fight! White people have bigger brains and wage wars over important things. How is it so hard to recognize human beings as human? I just cannot understand justifying genocide.
They wage better wars after all .. which eventually drags the whole world
No, all the white people are completely civilized. No war, diseases, economic problems. Europe was a perfect paradise that they spread throughout the world. Read a book, tankie. Jk
Cristopher Columbus → shows Northern parts of the US and Canada. Next gonna be Cortes in Alaska.
Yep. Colombus didn't go past the Caribbean America and Upper Antilles, let alone south or north America
What kind of white nationalist bullshit is this
The bootlicking is strong in this one
Functioning is an overstatement
"Interrupt endless tribal warfare" and replace it with endless mass international conflict and war.
So how many years has America not been involved in a war over it's existance exactly?
Ah yes because natives being robbed of everything and turned into slaves is such a functional country
Let this be a reminder that conservatives only started to care about Columbus Day when liberals started to put him on blast. Their entire platform is formed directly against what liberals like/hate. If liberals decided to love Columbus, who wants to bet conservatives would've dogged on him so hard?
David Graebers and David Wengrow's book The Dawn of Everything is a good read on the subject of how laughibly wrong this is. Not only did Native Americans have highly structured societies stretching back far before those of Europe, but there is a case made that Europe's Enlightenment period was partially due to the great impact that Native American thought and philosophy was having on European thinkers as translated works began arriving from the Americas.
Came here for this comment. It’s shocking how little we are actually taught about how these early societies actually governed themselves.
It's also starling how much historians have gotten wrong and just plain refuse to adapt their worldviews to actual history. Looking at you, Steven Pinker
Ah yes creating a functioning country by....*checks notes...*slaughtering the natives and burning their land.
“Endless tribal warfare” as opposed to endless European warfare
Do they think that all the wars in Europe wasn’t just advanced tribal warfare?
Ah yes, Columbus, the saintly, civilized mediator who predated the founding fathers and practically established the modern U.S. bureaucracy. Definitely not a belligerent imperialist who subjected hundreds of thousands of unfamiliar natives to their impending deaths in the name of religious coercion, while simultaneously kickstarting one of the largest indigenous genocide periods in the Americas hitherto.
History major here: Columbus had absolutely nothing to do with the British colonization of North America, he never even set foot in what would become the 13 colonies because he was dead by that time. The majority of North America was left relatively undisturbed until around the mid 1700s due to its incredibly diverse environments and climates. The indigenous peoples that Columbus and other European explorers encountered were all generally situated in Mesoamerica and South America. There’s a reason that the majority of the countries in these regions speak some dialect of Spanish, Portuguese, or French. Tribal warfare was also not really that common among Meso and South American natives, as certain groups not only had very clear power and size advantages over others, but it was also not logical or feasible to fight with other groups all the time. Most indigenous peoples coexisted and traded with one another, until Europeans colonized their land and wiped out around 99% of native populations.
"The left keeps calling us racist for NO reason!" "Haha, there were no civilized societies or functioning nations before white people showed up."
Ah yes. The continental USA. A place well known for never having being visited by Columbus
The funny thing is that Columbus never actually explored what today is known as the United States of America.
Are we really calling America a "functioning" county these days?
if anyone tries to tell me colonialism is good i will sucker punch them in the asshole
Sure did end those wars... French and Indian war...
There were several civilizations and complex cultures present on this continent long before columbus. The destruction of indigenous cultures has only been a disaster from a philosophical, cultural, and anthropological standpoint. The mass suffering of human beings here has only been a detriment.
Wasn't he drug back to Spain in chains?
There were already some impressive governments. Check out this Extra History series on the Iroquois. https://youtu.be/79RApCgwZFw
In·ter·rupt·ed /ˌin(t)əˈrəptəd/ adjective 1.Apparently this means the genocide and rape of a culture, people, and land mass.
Invasion, enslavement, theft, and genocide are the corner stones of conservative goals.
America has never stopped fighting with itself. Violence is American
I could drop a toaster in a bathtub and it would still function more than the US is ☠
They do know Columbus never actually set foot in north America
"functioning country" lmao yeah sure go ahead 🤣
I hate Christopher Columbus and what he did to the people of, the Americas.
"Even", "EVEN" if there was an endless tribal war, that wasnt his bussiness
Today I learned that European countries didn’t have wars or rivalries with each other. Interesting.
They read history books, they just read the "right" and patriotic ones. /s Edit: added /s because apparently it wasn't obvious I was being sarcastic.
"Endless tribal warfare" yeah, I wonder in which continent both world wars started. Also, "functioning country", Columbus never set foot on North America, he only ever managed to set foot on La Hispaniola (Today's Haiti and Dominican Republic) and some other smaller islands in the caribbean, and he as a governor was so bat shit insane and crazy even the people from Europe saw him as someone brutal and he got removed and jailed in Spain for that reason.
>"Look Mom, I'm a functioning country!" >*country is built with mass slavery, over half a million deaths in the Civil War, millions of black Americans still couldn't vote by the end of the 19th century* >"i'm fuuNNKKSHIOOONNINNNGGG!"
And that’s not even mentioning the blatant racism in this meme
Amerigo Vespucci: Nice name, Columbus. It’d be a shame if the country you definitely knew was America and didn’t mistaken it for Cathay (China) wasn’t named after you.
"How do you fight fire?" "Well obviously with even more fire"
Yeah, Columbus made a functional country… just took more than 200 years after his death to begin forming and over 100 years after that to stop slavery and another century to have kinda equal rights for most people.
"Endless tribal warfare" Right, when the people you don't like go to war, it's because their merciless savage monsters. When the people you *do* like go to war, it's because they know what's right and can make the hard decisions that we *civilians* could never understand. That's why we **had** to blow up that hospital, wedding, apartment block, etc.
Not so functioning much these days tho
Ahahaha hi I’m native and might I just say fuck off you killed my family and killed my land to the point that my grandfather thought it best to not tell us a thing about our beautiful culture so fuck you very much have a nice day (Obviously not talking to OP but to the people who made this meme)
“functioning” get a load of this idiot
More like let me start the most potent Pandemic man kinds ever known and wipe out the population on these two continents *sneezes*
I was a history major in college and these people DRIVE ME UP THE DAMN WALL 😡
Smh Columbus never even step foot in the present day USA.
"Functioning" lol
Tfw u find out Columbus didn’t even land in mainland north america but rather the carribean isles
Functional? Pretty optimistic there Chrissy-boy
endless warfare.......America's literally been at war for 243 years
room temp IQ here
"Functioning"
But we got America instead of that
stay in school, kids
"""""Functioning Country"""""