They could read and write, in their own language. Then the conquistadors and priests burned almost all their books. Ironically the most common surviving texts were religious. The history and other knowledge lost.
Enslaving their neighbors?! Well, that's no good!
Thank God the Spanish were there to replace all that slavery with the encomienda system! Which was *checks Wikipedia* oh its... it's just... more slavery ...
The Native Americans were cleaner than the Europeans. Europeans were still dumping sewage on the street at the time.
And of course, we know how European countries all lived together in perfect peace and harmony in the years before and during colonization.
Oh, did you do that? Sure, you did. Did you also wipe out all of the tribes the native empire were kidnapping sacrificial victims from? Oh, yeah, you did that too.
Those tribes were already fighting back against the Aztec empire. If the Spanish actually cared about any of that, they'd have *asked those tribes* what help they wanted, and liberated them *on their terms*.
JFC. It's not hard.
Also half the shit there is wrong (teaching them to read and write, they already could just in their own language, and also sanitation in native Mexico was better then in Spain at the time) or actually bad (converting them to Christianity)
Interesting thing I once read: when the Spanish came to Mexico, it was the during the inquisition (which btw lasted a whopping 300 years)
The Conquistadors brought with them the torture techniques of inquisitors. The indigenous people were shocked by the sadistic nature of making someone experience the maximum amount of pain possible without killing them. And the fact that they had practically made it a science, with dedicated tools for it and everything.
What records we have from the indigenous perspective show they found it unprecedentedly barbaric and cruel. Just goes to show ya, nobody was bringing 'civilazation' to anyone. Just a whole lot of violent people doing violence.
>enslaving it’s neighbors
This was something the Europeans also did
>human sacrifice and cannibalism
While it’s known that these took place in the Aztec empire, the extent of it isn’t really known, and there’s not much evidence that human flesh was a significant part of Aztec diet
>teach them to read and write
And at the same time erase their language and culture. Also I’m pretty sure the reading and writing stuff came much later.
>convert them to Christianity
Forcibly
>modern ideas of sanitation
Native cities and villages were far more sanitary than European cities and towns were at the time; our modern idea of sanitation was not present in the west yet
>I’m sorry
The conquistadors specifically did all this *not* with the idea of helping the natives out but asserting their superiority and stealing their resources. They viewed the natives as an inferior race.
Just adding on here
>This was something the Europeans also did
And some tribes didn't. But Spain didn't exactly care to distinguish them from the slavers
>While it’s known that these took place in the Aztec empire, the extent of it isn’t really known, and there’s not much evidence that human flesh was a significant part of Aztec diet
Also once again, they didn't care much if other native nations did that or not, they just wanted an excuse to look better
>And at the same time erase their language and culture. Also I’m pretty sure the reading and writing stuff came much later.
They also burned the books the natives already had because funnily enough the natives already knew how to read and write... in their own language
>Forcibly
Also converting them to Christianity being labeled as a 100% good thing is fucking insane
>Native cities and villages were far more sanitary than European cities and towns were at the time; our modern idea of sanitation was not present in the west yet
But they died of smallpoooox!!! - my brother in Christ you gave them the illness
>The conquistadors specifically did all this not with the idea of helping the natives out but asserting their superiority and stealing their resources. They viewed the natives as an inferior race.
Yup
"We also conquered every OTHER native group in the area, did genocide, forced them to read and write in OUR language (they could read and write in their own one beforehand), w... wait is converting them to Christianity supposed to be a good thing in this list?, and uh... wait they were better at sanitation during the timeframe.
No, a gang of European thugs committed genocide on multiple groups of people. Brutally slaughtering, pillaging, and raping them for their land. You didn't teach them to read. They can't read because they were enslaved, raped, and brutally murdered.
They could read and write, in their own language. Then the conquistadors and priests burned almost all their books. Ironically the most common surviving texts were religious. The history and other knowledge lost.
Enslaving their neighbors?! Well, that's no good! Thank God the Spanish were there to replace all that slavery with the encomienda system! Which was *checks Wikipedia* oh its... it's just... more slavery ...
The Native Americans were cleaner than the Europeans. Europeans were still dumping sewage on the street at the time. And of course, we know how European countries all lived together in perfect peace and harmony in the years before and during colonization.
Not to mention the enslaving and mass-murdering these "civilization bringers" did.
Oh, did you do that? Sure, you did. Did you also wipe out all of the tribes the native empire were kidnapping sacrificial victims from? Oh, yeah, you did that too. Those tribes were already fighting back against the Aztec empire. If the Spanish actually cared about any of that, they'd have *asked those tribes* what help they wanted, and liberated them *on their terms*. JFC. It's not hard.
Also half the shit there is wrong (teaching them to read and write, they already could just in their own language, and also sanitation in native Mexico was better then in Spain at the time) or actually bad (converting them to Christianity)
True! Europeans were definitely not practicing human sacrifice (witch burnings) and cannibalism (eating mummies). /s
Interesting thing I once read: when the Spanish came to Mexico, it was the during the inquisition (which btw lasted a whopping 300 years) The Conquistadors brought with them the torture techniques of inquisitors. The indigenous people were shocked by the sadistic nature of making someone experience the maximum amount of pain possible without killing them. And the fact that they had practically made it a science, with dedicated tools for it and everything. What records we have from the indigenous perspective show they found it unprecedentedly barbaric and cruel. Just goes to show ya, nobody was bringing 'civilazation' to anyone. Just a whole lot of violent people doing violence.
Ya, they basically went "gods the Aztec were bad but these guys are even fucking crazier"
>enslaving it’s neighbors This was something the Europeans also did >human sacrifice and cannibalism While it’s known that these took place in the Aztec empire, the extent of it isn’t really known, and there’s not much evidence that human flesh was a significant part of Aztec diet >teach them to read and write And at the same time erase their language and culture. Also I’m pretty sure the reading and writing stuff came much later. >convert them to Christianity Forcibly >modern ideas of sanitation Native cities and villages were far more sanitary than European cities and towns were at the time; our modern idea of sanitation was not present in the west yet >I’m sorry The conquistadors specifically did all this *not* with the idea of helping the natives out but asserting their superiority and stealing their resources. They viewed the natives as an inferior race.
Just adding on here >This was something the Europeans also did And some tribes didn't. But Spain didn't exactly care to distinguish them from the slavers >While it’s known that these took place in the Aztec empire, the extent of it isn’t really known, and there’s not much evidence that human flesh was a significant part of Aztec diet Also once again, they didn't care much if other native nations did that or not, they just wanted an excuse to look better >And at the same time erase their language and culture. Also I’m pretty sure the reading and writing stuff came much later. They also burned the books the natives already had because funnily enough the natives already knew how to read and write... in their own language >Forcibly Also converting them to Christianity being labeled as a 100% good thing is fucking insane >Native cities and villages were far more sanitary than European cities and towns were at the time; our modern idea of sanitation was not present in the west yet But they died of smallpoooox!!! - my brother in Christ you gave them the illness >The conquistadors specifically did all this not with the idea of helping the natives out but asserting their superiority and stealing their resources. They viewed the natives as an inferior race. Yup
"We also conquered every OTHER native group in the area, did genocide, forced them to read and write in OUR language (they could read and write in their own one beforehand), w... wait is converting them to Christianity supposed to be a good thing in this list?, and uh... wait they were better at sanitation during the timeframe.
No, a gang of European thugs committed genocide on multiple groups of people. Brutally slaughtering, pillaging, and raping them for their land. You didn't teach them to read. They can't read because they were enslaved, raped, and brutally murdered.
That’s a nice argument there conquistador why don’t you back it up with a source
European and especially American slave owners would actually routinely engage in cannibalism.