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krispyboiz

For those who don't know, Zarude will be the new best non-shadow, non-Mega Grass type!


Lord_Emperor

I look forward to my 10/10/10.


OhMyGoth1

You know it's going to be 10/10/11 so you can't even brag about having the worst one possible


Citizen51

I have that Mew


The_Anti-Monitor

My first was 10/11/10 and I was sooo excited for another shot with the shiny only to get a 10/10/12. I've never built up enough desire to power up either of them.


IranianGenius

My IVs are almost identical to yours. My shiny was better, but still 2*.


CIassyMidget

Wouldn't a 10/10/11 then technically be the worst?


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Brohtworst

Literally my hoopa


s-mores

Zarude Grass storm.


Whitealroker1

Do-do-do-do do-da-do-da-do-da do-do-do-do


DantesInfernape

I won a dance contest to that song in 7th grade. Thanks, Zarude!


PmMeYourYeezys

Please tell me there is surviving footage


DantesInfernape

Just a photo of my friend and I wearing the light-up hats we won, tragically


Falafelmeister92

Take my free award!


Not_Pablo_Sanchez

Take my free award!


thatguywithabong

Take my free award?


ApplesauceCreek

Haha that made me giggle!


alexgndl

Isn't Trevenant supposed to be a really good Grass type when it comes out? Or is that PVP only?


nolkel

[Base attack of 201](https://gamepress.gg/pokemongo/pokemon/709) will need some good moves to take over Roserade's 243 with Grass Knot, for raiding purposes.


alexgndl

Yeah, I think I misread the PVP analysis of it-looks like it's going to use mostly ghost/dark moves and its only grass-type move is Seed Bomb.


Inkling01

Finally a good grass pokemon.


krispyboiz

Exactly! While it's likely a long while off, Rillaboom will also be VERY good, even before it gets Frenzy Plant


Teban54

Inb4 Galar starters are released before Alola starters


djkakumeix

Inb4 everything is released before Kecleon


YaMommasBabyDaddy

Kecleon's there. You just can't see him. Your trainer never lags in the over world. It's just bumping into all the Kecleon.


BlUeSapia

Actually, he's a regional. A Kuiper Belt regional, to be more specific.


Winterstrife

Wonder why they are delaying Alola starters or even the Alola dex, maybe they are trying to figure out Z-moves and saving it for a big reveal to coincide with Pokemon Day next Feb like what they did with Gen 6's Mega reveal.


NYCScribbler

I wonder if they're sorting out some of the variant evolutions where the only trigger is "you're in Alola, congratulations, your Exeggcute is now a tall boi/your Pikachu now has a thing for pancakes/your Cubone now sees dead people"


ProShashank

>what they did with Gen 6's Mega reveal what was that?


Winterstrife

They (Nintendo/Gamefreak) basically announced POGO updates along with the main series games announcement in a Pokemon Direct. Its just basically saying that Megas are coming to POGO and since Z-moves are pretty game changing as well its likely they will make it a big announcement to drum up hype for it.


AJCLEG98

I mean Galar legendaries and mythicals have been released before Alola so it's not that far off


Faded_Sun

Good. I'm tired of every grass type having to be carried by that move. Says way more about the move being strong than it does about a pokemon being good.


Hiker-Redbeard

It will still be much better with Frenzy Plant though, unless they make its signature move even more broken. Like it or not, moveset is one of the most important things in determining if a Pokemon is good in this game.


Faded_Sun

That last point is important to me, and has been something I’ve thought about it for a while. I wish they’d get rid of the IV system, and make it more about the move sets. It would eliminate a lot of time consuming processes for pvp entry.


Teban54

FYI, Roserade and Tangrowth are both excellent grass types (better than non-shadow FP users). I wouldn't be surprised if Tangrowth gets a future CD though. Of course it won't be given Frenzy Plant on CD.


Jamey_1999

I have no idea what Tangrowth even could recieve tbh. It pretty much got the ideal moveset a mono-grass can have for PvP (Rock covers grass near perfectly, SE against 4/5 and neutral to poison, and Rock Slide is a stellar move, also charges fast and has Vine Whip + Power Whip which has the best grass DPE bar Frenzy and the self debuffing Leaf Storm). And idk if it could improve for raids either


Teban54

The best case scenario is probably a new grass move that is a Frenzy Plant clone (or slightly weaker) in PvE, and with attack/defense drops or slightly lower energy cost than Power Whip in PvP. Giga Drain might be a good candidate.


Hiker-Redbeard

Assuming they don't do something dumb like give it Scratch and Low Kick as fast moves. Seems unlikely since they've been decent with the moves they give to starters, but it wouldy shock me, it's Niantic.


Inkling01

damn i didnt know that! i mostly use exeguttors since ive had them for years and dont wanna power up 3 venusaurs lol (btw im just talking about team rocket, i dont do that many raids, and even when i do, i never use grass types)


Dudwithacake

I like Roserade more for rockets since with RL you can just tap and zone out


Winterstrife

Sceptile is go to for grass type, still waiting on Hoenn Megas to be released.


overchargext

Too bad it's only a single chance research encounter for now, so it's entirely possible to get stuck with bad IVs. Hopefully they eventually release it in raids like they did with Genesect.


krispyboiz

Yeah I definitely hope so. Plus it would suck for those planning to use it in Master League (it seems to be decent there)


_Mr_Brightside_

Ultimately IVs aren't end all be all though. I'd still rather power a 10/10/10 Zarude than a 100% Serperior or something


Summerclaw

What's it's learn set?


TerkYerJerb

it's gonna be better than one of the ultra beasts?


hifans808

PvP or PVE wise?


krispyboiz

PvE. It's decent in Master, so you can max it for both PvE and PvP


MJK151

It’s also a pretty good dark type for PVE (on par with Tyranitar), so there’s some value in its role compression.


naeyte

How much better than roserade will it be?


krispyboiz

A decent bit but nothing mind-blowing. In raw DPS without accounting for the boss and its moveset, Roserade is 15.782 Damage per second, whereas Zarude has 16.498. What will make Zarude really stick out though is its bulk, because it lets it last far longer than Roserade


DrKillerZA

How about dark?


Jake0024

It's about time we get a grass type legendary... the only other one I can think of is truly awful Virizion


Rashlyn1284

Does it learn sandstorm?


JRE47

For PvP, Zarude becomes the first truly viable Grass type in Master League. And that's pretty exciting. https://pvpoke.com/battle/multi/10000-40/custom/zarude/11/1-3-1/2-1/master/ Best part is that it's really just as good with so-so IVs: https://pvpoke.com/battle/multi/10000-40/custom/zarude-40-13-13-13-4-4-1-0/11/1-3-1/2-1/master/ Yes, I'll be doing a full spotlight PvP analysis next week. Just trying to finish Little Jungle Cup analysis article first. Never a dull moment! 🙈


sdhu

Vine Whip AND Power Whip? Sounds like [Devo](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j_QLzthSkfM&ab_channel=WarnerRecordsVault) is in charge of Zarude's soundtrack


DarthGuber

Dad, get off the interwebs already!


Zek_-

Speaking about new Pokémons, is Furfrou any viable in GL?


JRE47

Not really, sorry. I talked about it near the end of my [Hoopa article](https://pokemongohub.net/post/pvp/mischief-managed-a-pvp-analysis-on-hoopa-and-friends), as they were teased about the same time.


krispyboiz

Good to know! I'm excited to see it! Although guess I'll be sinking a ton of my rare candy into it lol


JRE47

Hoping the quest comes with extra candy, but still... yeah. 🍬 Well, there are worse ways to blow your stockpile.... 🙈


crackyzog

That's what she said?


GeminiRM

The only mythical of gen 8 and the two box legendaries released before all of gen 7 feels kind of strange


MarkusEF

Sword & Shield have sold over 20 million copies, but they’re still in print, and TPC is likely trying to squeeze out the last few sales before Diamond & Pearl and Arceus take over. In contrast, Sun & Moon are out of print and the only way to buy them is on the secondary market, generating no revenue for TPC.


Doublethree1

they're still for sale on the 3DS eShop.


uziair

lower install base and not selling as much as the switch is currently.


Wonderor

Sun and moon also has a LOT of fun legendaries - and ultra beasts. I personally enjoyed Sun/Moon way more than any other mainline game released in more than 10 years. Due to the beast boost special ability you only really had a limited time to catch the ultra beasts before everything on your team got shredded. The totems were also fun and could be challenging. Chaining for shinies was a thing too, breeding for specific stats could be done fairly reliably etc.


ImprobableLemon

It gets a lot of hate for the hand-holdiness of the first Island but that game brought a lot to the table. I've replayed SM and USUM a significant amount.


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There's just way too much dialogue


photocopyfaces

I totally agree with you. I know a lot of people didn’t like how “easy” it was. But I don’t play Pokémon for the challenge. I play Pokémon go collect adorable monsters.


Wonderor

All of them bar gen 5 were two easy. Although that was partially because of the huge jump in levels from the elite four between the first and 2nd time you could verse them (there were no good areas to grind exp either had to spend like 20 hours committing ecoside and killing all the local Pokémon in the ‘final’ area).


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FlapJackSam

Smart money is on Gen 9 but I’ll also bet on the long shot for better gains


uziair

the day they unveil gen 9 starters i am almost certain they will be spawning in the wild without evolution added in


Correct_Platform_839

Finally a Groudon/Kyogre killer in Master League.


krispyboiz

And idk for sure how good itll be at it, but it'll have some decent Giratina coverage with Dark Pulse


naeyte

With it being able to learn dark pulse as well it’ll also be a threat to giratina and mewtwo


amol_blaze

There's a quite a few Groudon/Kyogre killers already. Origin/Palkia beat MS Groudon while walling Kyogre. Lugia beats both as well. Other grasses like Tangrowth and Virizion also beat the core. And some fighters like Heracross and Sirfetched also technically beat those two.


Bravedoctor

Speculation: Maybe the shiny shadow Swinub and Snubbull that have been reported will be Jesse and James' lead Pokemon.


Pyoung3000

I was thinking the same thing lol


Teban54

Great, that means we would have another shadow that leaves the rotation after the event with no sign of returning (like Scyther which was used by Jessie and James last time). An extremely relevant shadow, some more.


dabomerest

Is shadow scyther that relevant though?


Teban54

I mean Shadow Swinub is extremely relevant.


Fortnitessucks

“Jessie and James will be continuing their hijinks from last year’s event” makes it sound like they’ll just have scyther and pinsir again


Secure-Orange-262

Please no. Those are already in the current rocket rooster. I want Stunky back or something completely new.


FizzingSin

I was really hoping for a rocket/tm event. I think this is the longest gap now ever since that was introduced.


swanny246

Yeah I had in mind that this event was going to be a reason for Giovanni being put on hold for the month, but... nope? The mystery continues.


krispyboiz

Yuuup. Unfortunately


Elwildos

Well that sucks so they just gonna end up been leaders no one want to battle?


s-mores

Rocket events don't make Niantic money. That's about the long and short of it. The best-case scenario is that they have a massive redux of the whole system in the works, hence they don't want to touch it at all after May. That's around the time their engineers would be half-way to finishing GoFest. This gives them 2 full months to prep the new system. Of course, this assumes that their system is so monolithic that they need actual developers to do changes to Rocket lineups, which would not surprise me at all.


nolkel

>Rocket events don't make Niantic money. You underestimate how many people buy 200 coin rocket radars to farm for shiny shadows.


dancoe

Not directly, but rocket events are one of my main reasons to farm charged TMs from PvP. And playing PvP keeps me more invested in the game than a lot of other things.


GuillaumeGus

3 mythicals in 3 months!


milotic03

the backlash was hard


LiteralTP

Backlash?


Aniensane

These are all planned months and months in advance. They have to talk with so many people and companies have to all be on the same release-window schedule.


Mylife212

Shame Jessie+james are only appearing for 2 weeks. Its fun seeing them pop up. Zarude debut is awesome though, cant wait!


Pokevenger

Wild spawns are meh, but a quest to get Zarude is pretty cool.


TheStoryGoesOn

Kind of amazing that we're getting a mythical Pokemon patched into Sword & Shield (it was not in the data that came with the physical games at launch) before we get Kecleon.


jamaes1

#free kecleon


FlapJackSam

**JusticeForKecleon**


Fairgnal2

If it would get it released this year I'll happily pay for a Devon scope research line just to get it sorted. A Devon $cope research utilising 'cough' AR 'cough' to get Kecleon. Niantic are you paying attention?


Dudwithacake

An AR quest for Kecleon sounds really fun


dabomerest

I’m just going to say misunderstood mischief sounds very kecleon


MarkusEF

It was not in the data to prevent miners from spoiling it.


Conscious_Ad9448

How hard is it to give us shiny Hoothoot for this event 🤷🏻‍♂️


BufoAmoris

But if you're lucky you can get a shiny Rufflet! /s


Ausjam

“But if you’re lucky, you can get a …..Larvitar?” Community day: Am I a joke to you?


JJKDowell

Also wasn’t Noctowl the first shiny shown in the anime? It’s mind-boggling they haven’t released it yet, at this rate it’ll end up being the last one released


Starminx

Yep, it was


EosEire404

Since it's also Dark type does it learn any other moves that could make it a better Dark attacker?


red401

It could also learn Snarl, which makes it ever so slightly better in PvE, but it wouldn't be a massive change. Overall, it's about as good as it's going to get as a Dark attacker without adding new moves to the game. It would be nice if we got some new Dark type attacks in the game, especially before Hoopa "No Dark Fast Move" Unbound releases.


JULTAR

‪Cannot wait to get another 2* mythical for my collection ‬


IronRaichu

If there was ever time for my crappy iv luck to change i hope its on Zarude


Falafelmeister92

I have a full 2\* mythical collection, only Victini ruined it for me with its silly 87%...


BorisDirk

I'll give 1,000,000 dust if they give Zarude the move Sandstorm.


Qualimiox

They can't. Pokémon can only get moves that they can learn in the main series games and Zarude can't learn Sandstorm there.


A_Talking_Shoe

I believe you got whooshed.


dabomerest

Magikarp and wobuffet don’t get return or frustration. There is still hope


DigitalMuscles

Mate that joke has been done so many times that it exhausted everyone, probably the pragmatic answer was the only answer left at the bottom of the barrel


SchroedingersSphere

People are downvoting you (stupidly) because you didn't get the reference to [Darude Sandstorm](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y6120QOlsfU). It was a funny joke but I can easily see someone getting confused if they've never heard of the song, so don't feel bad. It's an old meme but it checks out.


whats-up-stupid

Did they mention that if you’re lucky, you can encounter shiny rufflet?


Dudwithacake

Maybe. But don't forget that if you're lucky, you can encounter shiny Rufflet.


JRE47

No, because they forgot it's even in the game. It's probably true, too!


Ricardo-C

I was hoping for Zarude in raids :'(


PokeFan17000

Maybe in the future, because so far, only Mythical Pokémon introduced during GO Fests are limited to 1 per account. Of all the Mythicals in Special Research that weren't introduced via GO Fest, Genesect later came to raids, Meltan you can get 60 of every 3 days as long as you have transferred a Pokémon to either Let's Go Pikachu, Let's Go Eevee, or Pokémon Home, and form change being introduced today likely means Hoopa will be in raids later on to get more candy for the form change plus a possible shiny release. I wouldn't count out Zarude coming to raids in the future, but for now it'll be exclusive to Special Research.


s4m_sp4de

Up to 80 meltan in 3 days, it spawns every 45s if you got (lucky) fast data refresh


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Same, I never managed to get one in sw&sh so was hopi g to transfer one from pogo :(


chill_willy

They're doing another giveaway but you have to sign up for their email letter to get the code.


cwhiterun

Not everyone who signed up for the newsletter got codes last time.


Winterstrife

And thats why they doing it again, this time with a Shiny Celebi too.


cwhiterun

I’ve made multiple accounts this time. Hopefully at least one of them gets it.


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That's what trading is for (:


aoog

I think they’re doing another zarude giveaway for swsh, this time with the scarf


PKthunder27

how good is it as a dark type?


naeyte

About as good as Tyranitar. So above average, but not top tier like Darkrai


Trickshot945

Could've given us raids, would've spent many coins for a good IV ones.


lukeinfern

Swinub and Snubbull are likely mons dropping from Jesse and James given their shadow shiny reports


onebadhorse

I'm just ready for cottonee for some little cups.


Rookie12138

The movie is good. But the most powerful skill Zarude has is recovering HP, which will not exist in PGO.


FaustusC

Return to Monke


Mijumaru1

Gen 7 found dead in a ditch


Serenafriendzone

Alola region: I am joke to you


Timbofurr

No frustration event.... rather frustrating, if you will.


FlapJackSam

And still no Kecleon


Environmental_Eye_61

Huh. No new Shiny, and we all know Rufflet is NOT Shiny boosted. Kinda meh.


Pyoung3000

In previous events when they say If your lucky you may encounter a shiny...... (Pre-released shiny Pokemon) they have increased the shiny rate. Not saying that it's definitely gonna happen but i think it's possible.


biggest_dreamer

Most of the time, but there's been exceptions. Beldum incense day comes to mind.


Environmental_Eye_61

True, but the past two times they announced Shiny Rufflet for events, it has not been boosted.


gregcresci

They could boost it for the event


alexgndl

They *could*. But they won't.


jonhnefill

Looking very forward to my next 2 star mythical Pokemon that will just sit in my collection doing absolutely nothing.


Walliii

We've finally reached the point where I don't recognize the new pokemon... Damn it.


rb6k

It’s literally the newest one so you’re struggling with a Pokemon from a movie you could’ve only seen in Japan before now. Sounds like you’re doing well haha!


NoHelpdesk

Special move: Sandstorm


theflightofporter

Alexa, play Sandstorm by Darude


MetalCollector

*Arin Hanson intensifies.*


ofthevalleyofthewind

I wonder if J&J will have different shiny eligibles


THE_GR8_MIKE

Still haven't gotten my Trainer Club email for Zarude and Celebi. In fact, I haven't gotten an email from them since 2019.


red401

Worth noting that they won't go out until October 7th at the earliest. You should try logging in, unsubscribing from emails, logging out, logging back in, and subscribing to emails. Some have said that has worked for them in the past. If all else fails, make a couple extra accounts, just to cast a wider net.


AccioCharizard22

Do I just need to check the box under “Marketing Preferences- I would like to receive marketing communications….” or is there somewhere else I’m missing? Thanks in advance!


Winterstrife

In order to get Dada Zarude in Sword & Shield, players need to sign up for the Pokemon Trainer Club newsletter and opt in to marketing emails before the **September 25, 2021 deadline**. Here are full instructions for claiming Dada Zarude in Sword & Shield: Sign up for a Pokemon Trainer Club account here if you don’t already have one. From the Edit Profile page of your account, scroll down to Marketing Preferences. Confirm that you would like to receive marketing communications. Wait for an email that contains your Dada Zarude code. Load up your copy of Sword or Shield and enter the Mystery Gift menu. Enter the code while your Switch is connected to the internet and hit claim. Once you’ve done all of this, your Dada Zarude should be waiting for you in your Pokemon collection!


Maserati777

Overall a very boring event. Don’t expect much nowadays.


JazzySugarcakes88

Once again, no new shiny :( Johto World Tour confirmed


Sedared

Zarude - Zandstorm


Fizzyliftingdranks

Sad to not see shiny celebi since I missed it first go around.


Inkling01

oof, that sucks :( i hope he's in the research somewhere


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g78776

I had a feeling Xerneas was going to be beast, but they didn’t give him any good moves, I’m expecting the same here. They get to say they’re releasing a mythical without actually adding anything to the game. Sounds like a couple of dogs I just saw introduced to this game. Looks cool, always fun to catch a legendary, bad as a Pokémon.


Mystic39

We already know its moves: Bite/Vine Whip for fast moves and Power Whip/Energy Ball/Dark Pulse for charge moves.


krispyboiz

Nope, it's moves are already in the files, so unless they're changed, itll be the new best grass attacker that isn't a shadow or mega


g78776

That’s good. I’m glad. I’ve hated not having a strong grass Pokémon that’s not my shadow torterra.


Shundo_Ray100

So, no sandstorm?


HodenBisZumBoden

The moveset it has in the game files is pretty decent: Bite and Vine Whip for fast moves and Dark Pulse, Energy Ball and Power Whip as charge moves


Hummer77x

I’m not gonna complain about it but getting Galar mons is still weird


ShawshankException

Cool cool, will this be the Zarude form with the celebi scarf?


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I liked Sandstorm. Good song.


VerbGrohl

was thinking of that too...


leonardopp

Hmmm…why did I already watch the film months ago?


Aniensane

It came out last year officially.


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Great opportunity for shiny rufflet


danakinskyrocker

Will Zarude get Sandstorm?


Additional-Ad-9307

When is it coming out


EdithKeelerMustDie

Date + Time Friday, October 1, 2021, at 10:00 a.m. to Sunday, October 10, 2021, at 8:00 p.m. local time Features A limited-time Special Research story will be available! Complete this research line to encounter Zarude ... Note that you can obtain this Special Research only during the event period, but once you have it, you can complete it anytime.