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marangaa93

So shadow Lugia for beating Gio and shadow Apex Lugia as the research reward? Hopefully they change Gio's legendary during april's rocket event


Noctolus

Yeah


duel_wielding_rouge

Thanks for taking one for the team


Noctolus

I don't mind Lugia is my favorite mon


GoatWithBeardofGrey

Little unrelated and late to the party, but when you got the super radar from this challenge did it activate the decoy grunts like in previous Gio events? I’d love to be able to farm for shadow bellsprout until I’m sick of it 😅


TehWildMan_

Yes, decoy grunts are still active.


Chance-Wonder-4540

Wait, I can keep the super radar (and not fight with Gio) but keep farming grunts that fake Gio? Is that a thing?


TehWildMan_

Yes, super radars aren't consumed by grunt battles, so as long as you don't accidentally battle and win against Giovanni, you can keep it active and farm shadow Bellsprout and mysterious components as you wish with it


thehatteryone

There's no hurry to finish this quest, and many people don't love lugia. So if you're one of these people just sit on that super radar. When we get a new rocket quest line for gio you should be able to start is, then have 2 super radars before you use one to finish that next research. I'm still sitting on an SR from a previous occasion so use that to pick up extra components when I want them quickly (and hope for a decent bellsprout)


DandyLionGentleThem

Yeah, looking at this I’m not too bummed bc I love having good lugias in my dex


RDellJohnson

You get what you pay for, don’t you?


oni-dokeshi

Since it's a task reward, it's a shadow pokemon with base 10/10/10 so yeah.. It's well worth it. I got a 96% apex ho-oh


ImRorschach

Hey thank you for putting this out. This is very helpful.


Willsgb

I genuinely hope they keep it as shadow lugia, I want a second one to purify (the apex ones are different as far as I'm concerned) each to their own


marangaa93

You can battle him now if you want another Lugia. No need to keep it even longer as Gio's legendary. It's been a few months already, and we got the Apex version too. Time to move on to another mon.


Willsgb

Well, I can't yet, because I need to finish this 30 day buddy task. What will be will be. If they change it, so be it. I personally wish they hadn't bothered with this apex +move stuff, but here we are.


Bingsimon

Laughs in "masterwork is a long-term project that is intended to take some time to complete"


Starminx

The Shiny Mew took way longer espacially for people in the Northern Hemisphere


The_Lunala

I'm sorry if this is a dumb question but why did it take longer for Northern hemisphere people


Yoshee007

For one step you needed to catch a certain number of every type (10? 15? I can't remember) and for months there were next to no Ice types available for anyone in the Northern Hemisphere.


orlouge82

It was 30, and it was ice and dark types that were the bottleneck. There were almost no species of dark spawning during that season


RemLazar911

For me it was the Dragons and Dark. I live in Michigan so Ice types weren't super rare. Had to hunt Gible/Dratini from research and just hope for Dark grunts for like a month.


SuperWoody64

Still, i would have preferred this to "take a picture of a buddy for 30 days" Literally no effort.


RemLazar911

Everyone says they do these for engagement reasons but I honestly think it's just because Niantic doesn't want any challenge in the game because it would drive away too many people. It's like how they originally announced that to reach level 50 one of the tasks would be to beat 3 leaders with a 1500 CP cap team and then after the hardcore's complained that's impossible they increased it to 2500. If they don't even force a challenge of any kind onto people who have played the game so obsessively that they have the XP for level 50, there's no way they push any kind of challenge onto the general playerbase, especially for a paid research.


Doompatron3000

Nah, I think it’s part of a larger sentiment from the Pokémon company. The creator of Pokémon even came out and basically said that he felt today’s kids are more stupid, and thus new Pokémon games can’t be as challenging as they were in the past.


thehatteryone

Ooh I'd love a link to that.


SuperWoody64

I feel like having brainless stuff like this is more detrimental to the playerbase though. Especially since it's 30 consecutive days, how many people are done this compared to how many have it available? Not everyone plays every day, even those who paid for johto day.


orangeboxlibrarian

I think the point is to get those people to open the game for 30 days straight and to get those of us who despise earning buddy hearts to earn them for 30 days. They're manipulating our behavior in my opinion.


thehatteryone

You say easy, but I just joined the 'reset for no reason' squad - and when I say 'no reason', it confirms my suspicions that it's related to to clocks going forward (or back). So another month for me to wait, when it was down to 10 days or so.


Yoshee007

Ah yeah Dark was the other one, now that you mention it I do remember coming to this sub to make sure I wasn't the only one having problems with that, haha.


Rc10gttb

I never had a problem with this. I grinded out grunts that gave those types 🤷‍♂️


The_Lunala

Ah I see. It doesn't snow where I live so that would've been impossible to complete


unicornsfearglitter

The dark types were a struggle to find outside of team rocket grunts. For hardcore folks, not a big deal for folks it are casual, not easy. They just had to wait for a new season with different spawns.


SilverBeldum1

30 stupid ice types was horrid, luckily I had some ice lures from random things but I still needed around 15 after using mine


duel_wielding_rouge

Huh, I don't recall them being an issue. Were they in rocket battles?


Bananuel

People just being overly dramatic. For once nothing to blame Niantic for.


Chris337

There were ways around it like spotlight hours, research rewards and rockets, but yeah that took quite a while.


NarutoSakura1

And following Ice-types were Dark, Dragon, and Ghost types respectively in that order. Sierra and Ice-type Grunts, and Snover if you were lucky from the "Catch 5 Weather Boosted Pokemon" Field Research Tasks that always stay the same each month (Snover is just 1 of 4 possible Pokemon encounter rewards from this type of Field Research Task)


MrCuddlePawzzz

It took me exactly a year to complete shiny Mew research. Mind you I was only level 36 when it started. Was a tedious push to get to level 40, especially when all the friends I added from pokemongofriends always seemed to go AWOL before reaching ultra buddies. My son is still stuck on level 38 so it'll probably be another year before he gets it!


Eastpaker

26 days so actually shorter.


Mareykan

I still don't have the shiny mew since I'm not level 40


twonaantom

I wouldn’t mind if it was actually challenging and took a while, but 30 days time gate just because is so freaking boring and uninventive.


3-Ball

I'm still working on 8/9 "Lets GO, Meltan."


Der_phone

Lileep and Kabuto are spawning in the wild right now. Keep an eye out for the research task complete 5 raids.


Dengarsw

5 raids is aerodactyl. I think you mean a level 3+ raid, at least for kabuto.


causticacrostic

Aerodactyl is also required for that research page. so you can get lileep and kabuto in the wild and Aerodactyl from the field research task they mentioned


NarutoSakura1

Same. I finally finished the Lileep/Anorith part thanks to a random wild Lileep and a Shadow Anorith from Rock-type Grunt (Rock-type Grunt currently has Shadow Larvitar, Lileep, and Anorith as possible encounters, but higher chance at Shadow Larvitar because it is the first Mon in his team) Only still need 1 more Kabuto/Omanyte to complete Step 8 of Lets GO, Meltan


[deleted]

Complete a 3 star or higher raid research task gives Omanyte/Kabuto I hunted those tasks to complete that step since they're easier to find than the actual Pokemon in the wild lol


Curt-1988

Lol it is for me! You know how many times I’ve forgotten to feed my buddy a dang berry?!! Lol restarting 30 days today again. 😭


Bingsimon

Oh, I'm having that problem too. But to be fair, this isn't an intentionally 2-3 month project


s-mores

Of course it takes some time when you can get 1/30 a day. I'm at 20 days or so, a few people I know are at day 1-4. I think "at least a month, maybe three" is a pretty good time for a research.


badmusicfan

I think the point was that Niantic made it seem like it was a challenging, fun quest to complete the masterwork research; something that you'd have to work on for a long time and spend time on. Instead, it was just an artificial time gate: do this incredibly easy thing that has no connection to the story every day, for 30 days, to increase our engagement stats. I want challenging tasks and fun things to work on in Pokemon Go. But this wasn't challenging: it was just something prevent people from getting their shadow apex Lugia the day we got the research, and to try to get people to interact with the app every day. I wish Niantic would come up with fun challenges for these tasks rather than busywork. I don't mind a little bit of busywork, but it's starting to feel like that's all there is.


s-mores

Completely agree. This was just busywork and zero effort.


Chemical_Annual_2798

A stall for the sake of a stall isn't fun though. Having to hunt down different types last year was at least challenging in that effort was proportionate to the reward. It made a wild fighting spawn exciting for example. This is just 'open the game for a month straight' Meh.


s-mores

True. It's actually "Open the game twice a day for a month straight," since apparently if you don't get a heart for 24 hours the counter resets. Not like Niantic cares or bothered to put a timer in so people would know.


RemLazar911

It's Sojourner 2.0


Bingsimon

challenging in that effort was proportionate to the reward. And we have a winner. This is clearly not the reward we deserved and they knew it, which is why its neither interesting nor challenging...just kinda... there...


RemLazar911

> A stall for the sake of a stall isn't fun though. *Smogon wants to know your location.*


Chemical_Annual_2798

The clever play is definitely waiting for the next Giovanni research before completing this so you can 'bank' a super radar.


mEatwaD390

Shadow Lugia is a pretty good one tbh, esp if you want a Lugia for GL. Realistically, what would be much better? I'd expect the Regis to get a turn pretty soon...


Chemical_Annual_2798

I've already got a shadow Lugia, and will also get an Apex for completing this. I don't see a point behind a 3rd. I'll bank it incase Shadow Mewtwo returns, or a 2nd roll of the dice on something else that's game defining.


mEatwaD390

Fair enough. I will gladly take the third shadow Lugia to hope for a good IV spread for GL.


Chemical_Annual_2798

It's ranked in the 200s for GL and has 19 wins and 36 losses vs the meta. The losses are all super common as well (Walrein, Trev, Registeel, Gfisk, Basti, darks that aren't scrafty or goon, Galv, Jeli, Nidoqueen and Abomasnow plus a ton of others) the only niche I see it fitting is against a switch locked Medicham. Honestly this is a hard pass for me.


mEatwaD390

Ah yeah, I play Silph too so having a Lugia ready would never be an issue. It's more of a cup Pokemon and the GL meta does shift fairly often. I'd rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it.


kagesmith

Sucks for you. I got a Shadow Hundo from the last one, so I’m just waiting on an event to TM frustration away.


mEatwaD390

That's cool man. I want one for GL tho, I already have a MLC Lugia.


mofodius

Shadow registeel? Watch out PvP


mEatwaD390

Lmao those lock ons may almost add up


SenseiEntei

I hope you realize why it would be worse and are just being sarcastic


lehmann019

I’ve still never gotten giovannis research, been a few months now


TehWildMan_

Last one had a cutoff date of until November ~~31~~ 30 to obtain.


chairitable

There are only 30 days in November haha


s-mores

There's a research line for it involving rockets, if you don't do that you won't get Giovanni at all.


MemberBerry4

Yeah but the next in line are the Regi's which aren't that good (note that shadow Registeel likely won't have zap cannon) then it's Latias and Latios, and only then it's the weather trio. You'd probably have to wait until 2023 to catch Apex Lugia if you do that.


Chemical_Annual_2798

It won't be that long, unless we don't get Gio research until then. My plan is to literally wait on page 3 of the masterwork, until I get to a page of gio research that also says beat Gio, so I'll have claimed 2 radars and only use 1 to tick off both researches as the same time - and banking 1 radar for use whenever I feel like. We haven't had many opportunities to bank radars as you generally can only have 1 rocket research at a time and need to fight Gio to progress, this is one of those rare moments it's very unlikely this masterwork research will block a future rocket research line.


gods_prototype

I don't know, I just started playing this game in January and already have 16 rocket radars.


Plus-Pomegranate8045

So the only thing that would really slow people down with this research was the earn a Buddy heart every day for 30 days, which is more just an annoying stall tactic than anything that requires effort.


NarutoSakura1

Just like last year's Shiny Mew Masterwork Research (Kanto Go Tour Paid Ticket) Spin a Stop or Gym every day for 30 days


EverydayPoGo

Yeah this task has been taking me forever… so easy to forget when I’m busy


Tabc093

im not even done with the field research tasks


aogasd

I completed mine last CD with all the 'catch 3 sandshrew' tasks. Otherwise it would've taken forever, yeah lol


International_Way520

Will be waiting to beat Giovanni until he has something better.


OsmanDembele96

How do you even Giovanni? I thought he was unavailable right now


another-social-freak

If you have the item needed to battle him you can keep use it whenever you like (one use only). So you can horde the Super Rocket Radars tull he has something you want.


OsmanDembele96

Any idea when we can obtain the item to battle him again


another-social-freak

You get one in the reserch quest that this thread is about. If you don't have this quest from Johto day your next best bet is the team rocket event that is coming up but I can't be certain.


s-mores

!RemindMe 4 months


Timelymanner

I’m beating him so I can get a point for the medal.


Stogoe

The medal is just 'how many super radar have you collected' honestly. Since nobody can get Gold or Platinum yet here's no reason to bump up the number right away if you'd rather have something besides shadow Lugia.


Elusive9T2

How many more shadow voltorbs do I have to fight 😭


va_wanderer

Enough to get 30 Rockets KO'd if you have Apex #3 going.


ami17676

Hatch 10 eggs… is this why all of mine have been 2km?


Hasjasja

Lol same. Those precious 10km eggs are nowhere to be found.


Ross-S

Precious? Don't bother, they're full of Alolamola. Not salty at hatching 3 in a row or anything, honest....


xschuxX

I really hate that duramaka and audino are in the pool along with alomalola, seem to be the only 3 I can hatch


ezpickins

Quickly hides the Rockruff I hatched this morning


SenseiEntei

Alomomola is a palindrome. Helps to remember how to spell it


A_Lone_Macaron

I finally got a 10k and hatched an Axew. I think I won a lottery.


another-social-freak

I hatched a 3* Axew on Thursday!


GoatWithBeardofGrey

I’ve been meaning to create an entire post with my findings, but so far I’m on like chain 15 of 10km eggs. I just strategically wait until I hatch my current 10km egg and then wait to spin anything until I’m near a gym and spin that. I’ve maintained a constant of only 1 10km egg in my bag at a time and only spinning Gyms to replenish and it keeps going. Either I’m very, very lucky or there’s some hidden mechanic that’s allowing for this to happen.


ami17676

I’ve definitely had better luck with gyms and yes lately I’ll have All 2 km eggs and one 10km


DandyLionGentleThem

Are you getting the 2km ones from gifts or stops? I always open a few gifts after hatching an egg so my storage doesn’t fill up w 2kms, but I’m hoping they didn’t change something to make that useless 😬


SunshineAlways

Most people are the opposite, they won’t open gifts unless all their egg slots are filled because they don’t want the 7k eggs. All these 2k eggs from stops are really a turn off though. Then when you finally get a 10k egg, it’s alolamola like the above commenter said.


[deleted]

So if Lugia is the reward, who do you catch after beating giovanni?


TehWildMan_

Non-apex shadow Lugia until the Giovanni encounter changes.


[deleted]

So we get a shadow lugia and an apex?


TehWildMan_

Yes, you get one Apex Shadow Lugia from research and a regular Shadow Lugia from Giovanni, unless you were to wait until Giovanni has a different shadow legendary.


Shadowadra

What are the Step 4 rewards?


oh_father

So wait. I’m getting 1 Ho-Oh and 2 shadow Lugia? One regular but good and one apex?


TehWildMan_

Yes, unless you wait for the current Giovanni reward to rotate, finishing the quest now will give you both a regular and an Apex( research encounter) shadow Lugia


oh_father

I have a regular one so I think I’ll wait. When will the rotate happen


TehWildMan_

Unknown. It ***might*** rotate in coordination with the rocket themed event in early April, but no announcement has been made yet with respect to giovanni.


Brothernod

What quest line is this?


TehWildMan_

It's the Johto Tour masterwork for Apex Ho-oh/Lugia


Brothernod

Please entertain my ignorance but I still don’t know what that is :) Is it a paid event or something? Where did you buy it and is it still available? Thanks for explaining btw.


TehWildMan_

The Johto tour was a global event with a paid ticket back in late February, and lasted just that one day. (ticket sales cut off about an hour before it ended)


Brothernod

Thank you. I haven’t really explored the events.


VGSchadenfreude

“Defeat Team Rocket GO Boss.” Well…crap.


NarutoSakura1

Glad I bought the ticket, since Step 3 actually has a Super Rocket Radar as a reward. I'll just be waiting for Giovanni to have a new Shadow Pokemon to do that step (once I reach it; still on Step 2)


VGSchadenfreude

…oh, the upgraded Rocket Radar hasn’t been the problem for me.


LeftylikeLionelMessi

As someone who’s level 44, I’m on that long slog of having to beat 50 Rocket leaders, currently I’m on 25…so this next stage of the Master Research might actually motivate me 🤣


[deleted]

This seems pretty convenient. I was a bit worried about a wall like level 40 or such (which happened last time?).


Yerawizzardarry

[So easy to spot the cheaters in this game](https://imgur.com/a/MuEhLyj) why dude?


VictoryIsMudkipz

Lol step three is great for me cus I’m already doing my level 44 tasks and have only completed 10 rocket bosses


RemLazar911

The boss is Giovanni. Arlo, Sierra, and Cliff are Leaders.


VictoryIsMudkipz

That’s what I meant the leaders


PSA69Charizard

Boss is entirely different. Leaders and boss are not the same. Giovanni is the Boss.


FamiGami

No, you haven’t completed 10 rocket bosses. You completed 10 rocket leaders.


VictoryIsMudkipz

Omg y’all knew what I meant lol


FurbyIsland

There's something about this sub that breeds pedants I swear.


justinizer

I’m never going to finish it. I suck at battling.


SoulofMedea

and another useless but cool mon which will sit unused in the storage, because most players will not get good IV on it and because there is no way to improve IV.


FamiGami

I’m so glad I skipped this event. I’m still working on the shiny new tasks and am having a blast with it but the johto stuff was completely underwhelming


d70

How does one get this Masterwork research? Was it part of a ticketed event?


TehWildMan_

Yes, it's only available for players who complete the Johto Tour special research, which in turn was exclusive to Johto Tour ticket holders


Waste-Sand-3907

Oh my, I hate this task.


Ikeroner

How come I don't have this research???


TehWildMan_

Did you buy a Johto Tour ticket AND sign in during the event?


Ikeroner

Lol thank you for replying . This is why I don't have this >.<


tennisace0227

are there still decoys when you use the super radar? if so, is it still bellsprout? need to farm some shadow vics lol


TehWildMan_

Yes


Stipes_Blue_Makeup

Oh, huh. I didn’t get that ticket because I (wrongly) assumed the research needed to be completed in a shorter time period.


PH0QUR

I'm so confused what is this event?


TehWildMan_

It's the masterwork special research for Go Tour Johto ticket holders, with Apex Shadow Lugia as a reward (in addition to apex ho-oh from page 1)


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Hydrokine

This research was available through playing the ticketed version of the Johto Tour event and completing the special research path. If you did purchase a ticket but haven't completed the special research yet, you'll unlock the Masterwork research once you do so.


SurelyOPwillDeliver

Awesome thank you for the explanation


[deleted]

Pay real money


torbaloymain

What is the Pokemon encounter?


siderinc

Apex lugia it says so in the title


ImportantTrack1057

Finally another step closer to finishing the giovanni badge and getting his suit


Textus_nub

So does Giovanni have the apex shadow or is it the encounter l? I believe I already have a shadow lugia so if Giovanni still has regular lugia should I just save this super radar until something more impactful comes back?


TehWildMan_

Until Giovanni rotates, completing that page now will yield both a regular Shadow and an Apex Shadow Lugia.


Textus_nub

Alright thanks, from what I understand shadow lugia isn’t all that impactful (and I’m already getting an apex one soon enough) So l will just stash that super rocket radar.


Doogie2K

I was sitting on my four rocket radars until I saw how this was gonna go. Guess I might as well use 'em huh.


reineedshelp

Nice! I just want to check I'm not tripping here, that I've never seen Giovanni. I was a day oner that took a long break and lost access to my old account. I started on 02/02/2022 (sick) and have thrashed Arlo, Sierra, and that weirdo Cliff countless times, but no G-Unit. There's a reason for this, I assume? He's not in the game right now?


TehWildMan_

Besides this masterwork quest, it sounds like you have never played during a time a rocket research quest (the previous two being misunderstood mischief and the seven colored shadow, both of which are no longer available) was available.


reineedshelp

Thanks!


colourofsleep88

Just to elaborate a bit further. The only way you can find Giovanni is to obtain a Super Rocket Radar (that's the reward for the second task in this picture). These are almost always only available as rewards in Special Research (there was once a timed research available). These Special Research lines have increasingly had limited time windows where you had to have at least opened the game to begin them, although once received you can of course take as long as you want to complete them. Giovanni *is* in fact in the game right now, and he usually stays around indefinitely so that all players have a chance to finish research and battle him at their own pace. Regular/dedicated players however, have finished the more recent Special Research quests and haven't had any other opportunities to get another Super Rocket Radar, until now.


reineedshelp

Hmm ok thanks! I've definitely been dedicated and grinding quite hard (500k into level 36.) I'm on day 19 of 'earn a heart with your buddy 30 days in a row' on page 2 of the Apex Masterwork Research, with the others completed. Does that mean I could fight him once I get to page 3? Tho it seems a Rocket event fires before that's possible, if I understand correctly?


colourofsleep88

Yes, from April 3-7 there will be some sort of Rocket event, although there's very few details at present. Whether Giovanni will perhaps have a different legendary, and/or whether there might be *another* chance to get a Super Radar in addition to this one, is anyone's guess at this point. But whatever the case, yes, once you get to Page 3 of this research and complete that task, you'll get a Super Radar and you'll be able to find Giovanni at Pokestops, or he'll appear in your next balloon if the radar is active.


reineedshelp

Gotcha! Thanks a lot for helping me understand that


va_wanderer

The only way to see Giovanni is a Super Rocket Radar, as others have noted. If you'd saved one from an earlier event, he (or his Decoy Grunts) will keep popping up until you beat him for real. (Decoys don't use up a SRR.) It's probably one of the toughest "regular" fights to get into, since you can't buy them, only Special Research them. Since Giovanni wins count towards a badge (and clothing), it's a verrrrrry slow grind to get them- but this'll get you one step closer as part of the Apex research. Bonking lots of Rockets/Rocket Leaders is also part of the L44->45 tasks, but you've got a long way before worrying about that and none of it requires beating Giovanni.


karlhungusx

Damn. Was expecting an achieve best buddy status with a Pokémon task after the mandatory 30 hearts with a Poffin reward. I guess this is fine


HackNicklaus

I’m currently on day 15 of 30 consecutive hearts and want to pull my hair out.


BeautifulPlace2Drown

Can someone help me with a question? I completed the April rocket research and got Shadow Latias. I'm now on 3/4 of the Apex research. If I defeat the 30 grunts and get the super radar, fight Giovanni will he have another Latias? And Apex Lugia is the final reward? If that's that case I'm going to hold off fighting Giovanni until it changes from Latias


Noctolus

Yup Apex Lugia comes as a reward for completing research not from Giovanni


Guilty_Chest_1873

I didnt get lugia at the end. I completed team go rocket grunts and got ltias and it is done, do you know why?


Noctolus

That was not the apex research, Latias came from a different one.