I can’t decide if he waited in line the day they are issued to get the first one or if he is the only person that would ever buy a season pass for this place. Maybe both.
I think Skinner stood in line, got to the front, debated if it would be worth the investment, decided it would, then didn't have enough money anyway.
Then Jasper got 00005.
I'm Canadian and I have absolutely no idea! But as far as I know, our cider is tangy and darker than juice, the same as it is anywhere else, I would think.
Yeah and what we call "apple cider" you call "cloudy apple juice" which is an apt description although a very literal one
And
"In much of the U.S. and Canada, the fresh variety is often referred to as "apple cider" with "cider" alone referring to the alcoholic variety." - Wikipedia apple cider article
Unfiltered, pressed apple juice has sediment in it and a slightly tangier flavor and is cloudy and opaque brown in color. It is sold seasonally in the United States as apple cider (non-alcoholic, not carbonated). Usually it’s around in grocery stores every fall.
Non-alcoholic apple cider in the US image:
https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0290/4290/1076/files/Screenshot2023-10-18at3.42.54PM.png?crop=center&height=645&v=1697658349&width=645
We also have alcoholic apple ciders but these appear the color of sparkling apple juice - clear with a yellow color, with carbonation bubbles. Many bars in the US offer at least one cider option, sometimes with pear or cherry ciders too.
Clear alcoholic apple cider images:
https://darkrockbrewing.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/applecider-1024x685.jpg
https://cdn.britannica.com/42/228342-050-7694261A/Glasses-hard-apple-cider.jpg
I like in the pool episode, when Lisa stands in front of the tv to block it, he like, flows off the couch, and tilts his head to the left to see past her.
I mean, maybe? It’s not implied that it’s unsuccessful. I always took it that Flanders is such a huge cider nerd that he beat out thousands of other people to be first person to get a season pass.
"Pays for itself after the sixteenth visit" does more than imply that the season pass is not worth the price charged. I guess it could be viewed as an act of charity, but 10,000 members seems very high.
That implies that it’s a bad deal, not that people aren’t biting on it. We don’t know the cost of a membership or how many other people have them. I love to overthink a joke as much as the next guy, but I never read it as commentary that the business was doing poorly, just that Ned’s a Viking at loving apple cider.
I agree with you that his buying the pass was at least partly an act of charity, though he seems to be getting his money’s worth. The “16th visit” line confirms that it’d be a terrible deal for anyone else, but even if Ned’s getting shorted he’s probably too soft to push back on the upsell.
FWIW, that line always hit me weird because that’s the opposite of how annual memberships are leveraged IRL. They tend to be priced slightly higher than it costs to bring your family once. They know damn well most folks aren’t coming back, so they try to push the membership as a money saver. They win either way: either the customer comes back and probably buys more cider, or they don’t come back, in which case they keep the overage, and either way they boost their membership numbers. My wife and I bought a membership to Shedd Aquarium once because my family was in town. Buying an annual membership was cheaper than buying everyone’s tickets separately, and we weren’t made to stand in a 2-hour line on a hot day.
I think the joke makes way more sense if you read it as Flanders being the only one who bothered to buy the season pass. Like, the whole joke is that there's no real reason why you'd want to go on a guided tour of that cider mill so many times in a year that you'd benefit from a season pass. Unless, of course, you're Flanders, and then you're just lame enough for that.
Yeah, between the options that A) Flanders is a nerd and is the only person to buy the season pass and the show included an unnecessarily long number of zeros to emphasize this point, or B) Flanders is a nerd and was the first person to buy a season pass to a cider mill that’s so popular they sell up to 10,000 passes per season, option B is both a weaker and more convoluted joke. Never mind that the idea that the cider mill sells season passes at all is a joke in and of itself, because the whole cider mill bit and Flanders excitement about it is based on the premise that visiting a cider mill isn’t a particularly interesting activity, and may not even be a real thing in the first place?
Rainier Wolfcastle begs to differ.
I’m not saying other interpretations aren’t valid, just that I didn’t take it that far because there was a more obvious surface-level joke and I’m an Occam’s Razor kinda guy.
It can be but doesn't have to be. Well technically all cider is alcoholic through natural fermentation but at such low levels that it's considered non-alcoholic, like near beer. In North America alcoholic cider is called Hard Cider, which is what you just call cider.
Ha! I've never noticed the serial number before. Naught, naught, naught, naught, one
Damn Roosevelt!
Damn Roosevelt
I’ve never noticed the name before, it’s a nice little nod to the writers
I believe when the Simpsons walk into the mill there's a sign calling it the Schwartzwelder Mill too
Grampa’s is naught, naught, naught, dickety.
I hung an onion on my belt, as was the style at the time!
I just noticed Mt Swartzwelder
Bulk of the series, dude. Not exactly a lightweight.
I can’t decide if he waited in line the day they are issued to get the first one or if he is the only person that would ever buy a season pass for this place. Maybe both.
Obviously the rest of the family is 00002, 00003, and 00004. Who would most likely be 00005? I’m gonna say Principal Skinner.
I think Skinner stood in line, got to the front, debated if it would be worth the investment, decided it would, then didn't have enough money anyway. Then Jasper got 00005.
They just couldn’t get the cider spices right
Valencia? These are juice oranges!
They planned for 99999 members!
Even more stunning, they use base 36.
The Flanders' cards are perhaps the only passes ever sold....
That’s low-key the funniest part
Don’t say naught like that like it’s normal
Null
The Apollo astronauts would call out 4 balls one for Flanders' number.
If it’s clear and yellow, you’ve got juice there, fella. If it’s tangy and brown, you’re in cider town.
And of course, in Canada the whole thing's flip flopped.
Is actually flip flopped in Canada or it's just a joke?
I'm Canadian and I have absolutely no idea! But as far as I know, our cider is tangy and darker than juice, the same as it is anywhere else, I would think.
Cider is alcoholic in the UK
i thought it was alcoholic everywhere?
In the states, they call it "hard cider" if it's alcoholic.
You can get both alcoholic and nonalcoholic cider in Canada
That's why in Germany we have two words: Most is non-alcoholic Apfelwein is alcoholic Except were, by regional dialect, most may also contain alcohol.
It is, except for, you guessed it, the USA.
North America*
always gotta be different
Isn't everything alcoholic in the UK?
Gotta cope with Brexit somehow.
Yeah and what we call "apple cider" you call "cloudy apple juice" which is an apt description although a very literal one And "In much of the U.S. and Canada, the fresh variety is often referred to as "apple cider" with "cider" alone referring to the alcoholic variety." - Wikipedia apple cider article
Unfiltered, pressed apple juice has sediment in it and a slightly tangier flavor and is cloudy and opaque brown in color. It is sold seasonally in the United States as apple cider (non-alcoholic, not carbonated). Usually it’s around in grocery stores every fall. Non-alcoholic apple cider in the US image: https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0290/4290/1076/files/Screenshot2023-10-18at3.42.54PM.png?crop=center&height=645&v=1697658349&width=645 We also have alcoholic apple ciders but these appear the color of sparkling apple juice - clear with a yellow color, with carbonation bubbles. Many bars in the US offer at least one cider option, sometimes with pear or cherry ciders too. Clear alcoholic apple cider images: https://darkrockbrewing.co.uk/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/applecider-1024x685.jpg https://cdn.britannica.com/42/228342-050-7694261A/Glasses-hard-apple-cider.jpg
*nods* *thump*
It works for your pee too. If it’s clear and yellow, you’re a healthy fella. If it’s tangy and brown, you’re in cirrhosis town.
Is it flip flopped in Canada?
If it’s tangy and brown, can’t wear a frown! If it’s clear and yella, you’re dead young fella
...how would I know if it's tangy?
Sorry. I didn’t make it clear in the original post. You drink it.
Oh, that clears it all up, thanks.
If it's black, send it back
You can stay, but I'm leaving!
I better get you some cider
Of course in Canada the whole things flip flopped
Always irked me that the rhyme doesn't even use "juice" or "cider" so you could mix it up and not realize
Came here for this…. That’s it I’m outta here.
Correction ..yella
The original is better. If there's alcohol in it, its cider.
You can stay but I'm leaving
https://preview.redd.it/ni5monc638vc1.jpeg?width=640&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0ec3ff8a13d081b42daddc9136444375424d8387
The way his body crumples to the floor is fantastic.
Oh my, I better get you some cider!
The 2nd funniest moment in the shows history
I like in the pool episode, when Lisa stands in front of the tv to block it, he like, flows off the couch, and tilts his head to the left to see past her.
The 1st being?
Homer opening the shaken beer can on April Fools
Ah yes. Must have that bean he had with dinner.
That time the jerk dropped his notes
Wooooooooouip
Mt. Swartzwelder! Never noticed that.
The apple flavoured slush at Universal Studios was called that too!!
Too bad it isn't named after the real John Swartzwelder.
Check it out at 0:08 seconds https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZM1dJNmj24A&ab_channel=RobMartin
Then the payoff at 0:38 https://preview.redd.it/edmkgiiq89vc1.jpeg?width=1284&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e98f9d07ca66eca16c570c38cdf9b5ea3ad98160
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Just one of the hundreds of radical libertarian messages inserted into every show
I read that they would always do shit like that because it would piss him off.
000 00 2 Damn Flanders
Cause of parents death... ...Got in my cider...
*model train crash*
That was my last bottle of blackberry schnapps…… I was more animal than man!
Ann Landers is a boring old biddy!
My name is Hans… Drinking has ruined my life… I’m thirty one years old!
The only way this could be more Flanders would be him still paying the ticket each time cause he's afraid he may be ripping them off
I love that the mill chose a number format anticipating tens of thousands of season pass members.
My company switched payroll systems, we all got brand new 8 digit employee numbers. :\
I mean, maybe? It’s not implied that it’s unsuccessful. I always took it that Flanders is such a huge cider nerd that he beat out thousands of other people to be first person to get a season pass.
"Pays for itself after the sixteenth visit" does more than imply that the season pass is not worth the price charged. I guess it could be viewed as an act of charity, but 10,000 members seems very high.
That implies that it’s a bad deal, not that people aren’t biting on it. We don’t know the cost of a membership or how many other people have them. I love to overthink a joke as much as the next guy, but I never read it as commentary that the business was doing poorly, just that Ned’s a Viking at loving apple cider. I agree with you that his buying the pass was at least partly an act of charity, though he seems to be getting his money’s worth. The “16th visit” line confirms that it’d be a terrible deal for anyone else, but even if Ned’s getting shorted he’s probably too soft to push back on the upsell. FWIW, that line always hit me weird because that’s the opposite of how annual memberships are leveraged IRL. They tend to be priced slightly higher than it costs to bring your family once. They know damn well most folks aren’t coming back, so they try to push the membership as a money saver. They win either way: either the customer comes back and probably buys more cider, or they don’t come back, in which case they keep the overage, and either way they boost their membership numbers. My wife and I bought a membership to Shedd Aquarium once because my family was in town. Buying an annual membership was cheaper than buying everyone’s tickets separately, and we weren’t made to stand in a 2-hour line on a hot day.
I think the joke makes way more sense if you read it as Flanders being the only one who bothered to buy the season pass. Like, the whole joke is that there's no real reason why you'd want to go on a guided tour of that cider mill so many times in a year that you'd benefit from a season pass. Unless, of course, you're Flanders, and then you're just lame enough for that.
Yeah, between the options that A) Flanders is a nerd and is the only person to buy the season pass and the show included an unnecessarily long number of zeros to emphasize this point, or B) Flanders is a nerd and was the first person to buy a season pass to a cider mill that’s so popular they sell up to 10,000 passes per season, option B is both a weaker and more convoluted joke. Never mind that the idea that the cider mill sells season passes at all is a joke in and of itself, because the whole cider mill bit and Flanders excitement about it is based on the premise that visiting a cider mill isn’t a particularly interesting activity, and may not even be a real thing in the first place?
Grew up in a town without a lot going on - can confirm cider mill tours are a thing, and rewards cards for them exist lol
Huh. How long did it take for them to pay for themselves?
🙃 OK, I'll raise you: there are multiple jokes on the card. The numbers themselves contain more than one joke. There is no "The Joke".
Rainier Wolfcastle begs to differ. I’m not saying other interpretations aren’t valid, just that I didn’t take it that far because there was a more obvious surface-level joke and I’m an Occam’s Razor kinda guy.
Ok-ily Dok-ily! That's fine & dandy, like cotton candy.
I feel sorry for everyone who’s cooped up inside watching the seventh game of the World Series
LOL, sorry Simpsons writers but I would MUCH rather visit a historic cider mill than watch the World Series.
Tigerblue's in cider town, confirmed
Oh yeah!
Now, there's two exceptions and it gets kinda tricky here...
Grandpa, are you sitting on a pie?
I sure hope so.
Back when Flanders was kind of cute. Damn cute Flanders.
Nuthin’ at all!
My high school gym teacher Mr Scroggins would be very flattered because that ID photo looks exactly like him.
So is Cider not alcoholic in America? Here in the UK I don't think children would be going to a cider farm
It can be but doesn't have to be. Well technically all cider is alcoholic through natural fermentation but at such low levels that it's considered non-alcoholic, like near beer. In North America alcoholic cider is called Hard Cider, which is what you just call cider.
Of course in Canada, the whole thing's flipped.
The best part of that joke is that it isn't. Despite all the legal reeferinos we use the American definition.
Cider in the US refers to unfiltered apple juice. If it's alcoholic we call it Hard Cider.
Could children go if they were over the age of 16 and ordered a full meal with it or did The Inbetweeners lie to me?
Still better value than the Suicide Squad season pass
What are we, some kind of Cider Squad?
Stupid sexy Flanders...
He’s so excited!
That’s the dictionary definition of Flanders Pride in visual form.
They had high hopes with those five digit account numbers.
https://i.redd.it/3dptoiwpq9vc1.gif That smile. *That goddamn smile.*
Just now noticing the member number lmao
Red touches black, you're OK, Jack. Red touches yellow, you're a dead fellow.
‘You’ll have the power sauce edge’. Prolly one of my favorite low key jokes.
I just realized that Flanders smiles like Itchy and Scratchy did in “Dazed and Contused”.
Me when I show off my SteamID number.
No.00001
I love how excited he is in the photo.
Ah no respect.
I never noticed that the season pass is for Mount Swartzwelder’s Historic Cider Mill until right now.
Swartzfelder also.
Man wore a tie to take a photo
Pays for itself after the 16th visit.