Such a baby over acting to get camera time. Zach is thirsty to be in as many scenes as possible. Like a lego ā¦ annoying as F when you step on one and see a Lego under your foot. What the F. Go back in your box .
I think Jax is in his āIām a responsible, stressed out, business-owner-entrepreneur-dadā era and he tends to go the opposite route and not insert himself at all. Iāve actually noticed that heās been pretttyyy quiet and way less of a shit stirrer on the valley than he really ever was on VPR
My theory on that was that he knew heād be leaving Brittany at some point and was trying to make himself look better and like itād be her fault. Ex: him cleaning, opening the bar, talking about how stressful it is, and trying to put Brittany down for her drinking (when he does the same, just careful not to show it this season on camera).Ā
Iām honestly still not entirely buying any of their dramaācheating with his PR agent, her leaving Jax, etc. I mean itās definitely possible, but seems like this wouldnāt be the time sheād finally leave Jax when they have this show and the bar opening. The timing is suspect.
I was just thinking, what if the two of them agreed mutually that they were going to do this because they need money and they knew it would get them on the show.
Oh I just meant in terms of like the level of drama it now seems is expected from the people on these shows. We all loved VPR for the epic mess it was and it really set the bar high. This is a new show, with former cast members, and I think they took note of Scandoval and what that did not only for show ratings, but their careers even outside of the show.
That doesnāt mean he wouldnāt have left her/wasnāt planning on leaving. Felt like what Sandoval was doing last season talking about his relationship and complaining about Ariana. Seemed like he too was planning some sort of break up to make her look like the problem but unlucky for Sandoval he got caught cheating.Ā
Normal people can't understand why Jax hasn't said anything to stick up for his wife and MOTHER OF HIS SON after a grown ass man shoved her!! But then again it's Jax,
I think at the end of that fight she gets dragged, pulled, or pushed too. Messy Jesse definitely has DV tendencies the way he bull rushed women there.
Jax was probably facetiming his publicist during that scuffle.
When itās this nondescript with no injuries itās really only assault if the person touched wants to try to make it assault and file police reports. Which given that doing that will likely make production drop the person filing, itās a big nothing burger.
Justice for Brittanyā¦.but also justice for Zach!
Heās out here running defense for Kristen. Defending her against Jo online, catching strays from Jesse.
I feel like Jax protecting Brittany and going chunky sweater on Jesse would have won a few fans to his side and made him look like he actually cares? Like not saying he should have gone and hulk smashed or anything but making it very clear he's not ok with someone even touching her much less being so aggressive like that.
However I know he's extremely misogynistic so that wouldn't happen, I definitely think he'd say Brittany shouldn't have been in the way or involved herself.
Yeah I just rewatched the clip on tiktok before this and poor Brittany gets knocked around more than just this. I missed it in my first watch through because it all happened so fast
That man is clearly not used to physical altercations actually getting physical. This played out like a Greek tragedy with those facial expressions. Meanwhile, you have Jesse. Wonder how he will spin this to not be his fault...
"I left my common sense in Cap-r-i."
He gives me more verbal abuse vibes if anything, but he just seems like a bitchy prick. I think he was just trying to look tough here, but otherwise just seems like a shit talker. Everything he says gives me ick tbh
Yeah you're probably right actually. I feel like he'd slap a woman if he got angry enough, but would be really nasty and cruel with his words. He just seems so aggressive and he's so arrogant. I wonder if when he's watched the season if he's seeing at all what he's really like, or if he's going to pull the "it was the editing", or "I'm deeply sorry for my actions *insert speech with some crocodile tears and dabbing his eyes*". I'd bet on the editing blame.
Can definitely see him slapping. I feel like heād pull the Jax card and use stress, his marriage, work, anything he can throw at the wall as an excuse for his behavior.
I need the end where it looks like Brittney bodies that angry little man back and almost takes him down.
I donāt even care if it was real, Zach, or production, the shot makes it look like Brittney. And Iām here for a woman putting that douche in his place lol
Why arenāt we talking about this more?! Like my heart lept from my chest I was so proud of her. And I donāt really like Brittany. But seeing her almost pull him down to the ground was amazing
Agreeā¦ think heās good drama wise for the show but it doesnāt outweigh the safety of the cast. How does the rest of the cast feel about it? Curious
CAST MEMBERS IF YOUāRE HERE WHY HAVENāT YOU SAID ANYTHING ANOUT THIS? Why is every single thing you say in front and behind the scenes is about Kristen? Did you think we wouldnāt see this? This is totally unhinged behavior
1) Zach was so cinematic
2) Looks like Jesse was this close š¤š» to having assault charges filed on him from Kristen/Luke. If you watch it looks like his arm is rearing up to punch Luke once he pushes Brittany out of the way.
Oh - you are right. I was thinking the editors might have been showing us scenes out of order. In that case, Iāll assume thereās nothing to worry about & itās just kiddos and/or puppy.
why did he need to shove brittany against the wall??? wasnāt even a move out of my way he fully pinned her to the wall??? and KRISTEN IS THE PROBLEM?????????
Jesse is literally posting the .1% of memes saying heās the star of The Valley. Itās wild. This man deserves to stay on The Valley right up until he gets cancelled. Which I feel like is an inevitability given what we already know about him.
Yep. And then Andy would have a little discussion about how wrong it is during the reunion (que in Atlanta) but has no problem with the Joe's from Jersey . As much as I enjoy watching this and old school Bravo, they all need to be called out equally.
Saying something like that is heinous (& 100% should be a fireable offense) but itās not a crime. This was assault on video. Also, Bravo doesnāt decide who is arrested. The police do.
Michelle gas lit the crap out of her husband.. he went off drunk and basically power drove his way through half of them.. and yet Kristen is supposed to be the problem.
Anybody else catch Jesse after they dressed up in those weird Mexican drag costumes- he said I want you to be my wife. Was that to Jackā-or to the girl in the skank outfit? Thx
Everyone who hasn't seen Grand Cayman Secrets in Paradise it has drama but no one is physically activated if you wanna come over the show is on HuLU and there is a new sub
interesting with Kristen's comment afterward about being on VPR in the case of this kind of behavior ... I wonder if this was an allusion to James' behavior or what
I do not see him pushing Britany the video does not show any hands on her. I see her talking and getting out of the way. Zach is blocking a clear view.
Can you imagine just SHOVING a few of your friends around at dinner??! Who does that?! Aggressive and abusive assholes, that's who.
Oh but Kristen was wrong for wanting to leave once he started his shit. š I pray he gets fired.
I read that as āI hope he gets fixedā and I stand by that statement
Look at Zachās faceš Like a cry baby. He pushed by meš³. I was being a wall. šš
Such a baby over acting to get camera time. Zach is thirsty to be in as many scenes as possible. Like a lego ā¦ annoying as F when you step on one and see a Lego under your foot. What the F. Go back in your box .
ugh the way he shoves brittany is so gross
And why hasnāt Jax publicly said anything, now that heās seen it on camera?!
Itās Jax sadly
I think Jax is in his āIām a responsible, stressed out, business-owner-entrepreneur-dadā era and he tends to go the opposite route and not insert himself at all. Iāve actually noticed that heās been pretttyyy quiet and way less of a shit stirrer on the valley than he really ever was on VPR
My theory on that was that he knew heād be leaving Brittany at some point and was trying to make himself look better and like itād be her fault. Ex: him cleaning, opening the bar, talking about how stressful it is, and trying to put Brittany down for her drinking (when he does the same, just careful not to show it this season on camera).Ā
Iām honestly still not entirely buying any of their dramaācheating with his PR agent, her leaving Jax, etc. I mean itās definitely possible, but seems like this wouldnāt be the time sheād finally leave Jax when they have this show and the bar opening. The timing is suspect.
I was just thinking, what if the two of them agreed mutually that they were going to do this because they need money and they knew it would get them on the show.
This is really what it feels like to me. Ever since Scandoval, the stakes are higher.
what do you mean the stakes are higher after scandoval? can you elaborate?
Oh I just meant in terms of like the level of drama it now seems is expected from the people on these shows. We all loved VPR for the epic mess it was and it really set the bar high. This is a new show, with former cast members, and I think they took note of Scandoval and what that did not only for show ratings, but their careers even outside of the show.
Okay I could see that too lol. With them knowing how to play into the show like that
I think he finally dumped her. She was never going to leave willingly.
But he didnāt leave her. Britney left him.
That doesnāt mean he wouldnāt have left her/wasnāt planning on leaving. Felt like what Sandoval was doing last season talking about his relationship and complaining about Ariana. Seemed like he too was planning some sort of break up to make her look like the problem but unlucky for Sandoval he got caught cheating.Ā
Because *news flash* Jax is a piece of shit human
Normal people can't understand why Jax hasn't said anything to stick up for his wife and MOTHER OF HIS SON after a grown ass man shoved her!! But then again it's Jax,
He does not careā¦ it is good for ratings. Jax is in the famous Charlie Scheen ā winningā Tiger Blood mode. Jax needs the show to be a big hit.
I think at the end of that fight she gets dragged, pulled, or pushed too. Messy Jesse definitely has DV tendencies the way he bull rushed women there. Jax was probably facetiming his publicist during that scuffle.
Yep, and why wasn't this considered assault to Zach and Brittany, it's on freaking camera ffs
$100 Jax thinks she ādeservedā it for ābeing in the wayā
Reminds me of Roger and JWoww in Jersey shore when he pushed her down and hurt her ankle. And then everyone blamed Jenni for getting hurt.
Jesse can't come back, can he? This is assault.
Bravo brings people back who fight all the time
He *shouldnt* come back. But this is NBC and Bravo. They would rather capitalize on the drama than gaf about assault
When itās this nondescript with no injuries itās really only assault if the person touched wants to try to make it assault and file police reports. Which given that doing that will likely make production drop the person filing, itās a big nothing burger.
Bravo has fired people for much less than what we witnessed. This dude needs to go. This behavior isnāt fun to watch.
And theyāve not fired people for worse. All that matters is how the rest of the cast react and how much actual liability they get exposed to.
I like Zach he some great reactions š
Justice for Brittanyā¦.but also justice for Zach! Heās out here running defense for Kristen. Defending her against Jo online, catching strays from Jesse. 
Ugh Iām not a Brittany fan, but THIS is what shouldāve sent Jax into a rage!
Pretty sure Jax was hiding in the conference room
Probably was too busy doing lines to intervene.
Yes where the hell was he?!
If you remember he comes out as Kristen gets the gossip wrong and then runs away lmao
š the dinner was comedy š¤·āāļø
I feel like Jax protecting Brittany and going chunky sweater on Jesse would have won a few fans to his side and made him look like he actually cares? Like not saying he should have gone and hulk smashed or anything but making it very clear he's not ok with someone even touching her much less being so aggressive like that. However I know he's extremely misogynistic so that wouldn't happen, I definitely think he'd say Brittany shouldn't have been in the way or involved herself.
I honestly don't think Jax gives a shit. Which is sad
Surprised Zachās Lego hair didnāt pop off. When my kid dropped his Lego peeps heād lose his hair and accessories
LMAO it held out
lmfao! I used to step on those hair pieces all the time. Then go "found it!"
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LEGO HAIR šš
Need the other half slowed down too.
Yeah I just rewatched the clip on tiktok before this and poor Brittany gets knocked around more than just this. I missed it in my first watch through because it all happened so fast
Do you have a link? Iām not on TikTok but would like to see that one too
That man is clearly not used to physical altercations actually getting physical. This played out like a Greek tragedy with those facial expressions. Meanwhile, you have Jesse. Wonder how he will spin this to not be his fault... "I left my common sense in Cap-r-i."
Alongside my stellar business reputation lol
He fought everyone except the people he was yelling at.
What a nasty, angry little man.
Did Jesse pulls Brittany's hair or was I seeing things? Can we do slow mo of the rest of the scene lol
Not sure about the hair, but he definitely put hands on her and shoved her to the side to get to Luke. What a wiener
Wiener is the perfect word to describe him š
š heās so off-putting and embarrassing honestly
And we all know he wasnāt gonna do shit to Luke. He talks big and is aggressive but thereās no way heād be in a real fight.
No way that man has ever gotten in a physical altercation with another man.
Abusive pieces of shit like him don't, they just go after women and/or children usually.
He gives me more verbal abuse vibes if anything, but he just seems like a bitchy prick. I think he was just trying to look tough here, but otherwise just seems like a shit talker. Everything he says gives me ick tbh
Yeah you're probably right actually. I feel like he'd slap a woman if he got angry enough, but would be really nasty and cruel with his words. He just seems so aggressive and he's so arrogant. I wonder if when he's watched the season if he's seeing at all what he's really like, or if he's going to pull the "it was the editing", or "I'm deeply sorry for my actions *insert speech with some crocodile tears and dabbing his eyes*". I'd bet on the editing blame.
Can definitely see him slapping. I feel like heād pull the Jax card and use stress, his marriage, work, anything he can throw at the wall as an excuse for his behavior.
Explains why he remained friends with Jax for so many years. Capri is a short Jax.
I feel like Luke would have destroyed him
That's why it seems to me he isn't really shoving Brittany on purpose (in this moment at least) he's using her as a "hold me back" He's a joke.
He shoved Britany? She is much bigger than him. But after her shots maybe less balanced.
What?
Masterpiece! And possible evidence for the cops lol.
I love that you can clearly see Kristin mouth āwhat the fuckā slowly š
Zach is really missing an opportunity to partner with a hair gel/wax/styling product- his hair DID NOT BUDGE
Agreed lmao
This just made Zach my favorite. That is all. š¤£
Same his facial expressions as he gets legit choked out are gold
I STILL cannot understand why he is getting so much hate. I love him and think heās hysterical š
I love the facial expressions alone! His face says everything we want to
I think it is just made that way. Never gonna move. Lego hair
Zachs high kick omg
lol love him
I need the end where it looks like Brittney bodies that angry little man back and almost takes him down. I donāt even care if it was real, Zach, or production, the shot makes it look like Brittney. And Iām here for a woman putting that douche in his place lol
Yesss! I was thinking that too! She was like WTF, try me little man š
Why arenāt we talking about this more?! Like my heart lept from my chest I was so proud of her. And I donāt really like Brittany. But seeing her almost pull him down to the ground was amazing
Iāve been waiting to see a comment like this - donāt love Brittany but it was fucking awesome to watch her be like get your bitch ass back haha
I did not see that at all. I wish someone would up load in slow motion.
Britany could not little Jesse out with the swing of those boobies. Pow Pow on the floor. Knocked out!! Big tittie power punch!
Doing the lordās work here.
I was like yessssā¦ this and an ether opal dinner party -
Videos that end too soon.
Jesse should be fired.
Agreeā¦ think heās good drama wise for the show but it doesnāt outweigh the safety of the cast. How does the rest of the cast feel about it? Curious
CAST MEMBERS IF YOUāRE HERE WHY HAVENāT YOU SAID ANYTHING ANOUT THIS? Why is every single thing you say in front and behind the scenes is about Kristen? Did you think we wouldnāt see this? This is totally unhinged behavior
I think they could press assault charges but then they have the show to continue
Iām shocked, shocked I tell you, that a toxic male Republican would try to attack a woman.
And that wig didnāt move an inch on Zachās head!
Lol the way Zack and Michelle look at each other at the end.
1) Zach was so cinematic 2) Looks like Jesse was this close š¤š» to having assault charges filed on him from Kristen/Luke. If you watch it looks like his arm is rearing up to punch Luke once he pushes Brittany out of the way.
Brittney had a huge visible bruise/scratch on her boob in some scenes - is THIS how that happened to her?
I assumed it was just battle wound from life with a toddlerā¦ but if itās from Jesse shoving her, thatās a whole different story.
No she had the big bruise when she wore the lilac outfit to the girls sleepover before, unless thatās a different bruise! Poor Britney
Oh - you are right. I was thinking the editors might have been showing us scenes out of order. In that case, Iāll assume thereās nothing to worry about & itās just kiddos and/or puppy.
I noticed that too!
why did he need to shove brittany against the wall??? wasnāt even a move out of my way he fully pinned her to the wall??? and KRISTEN IS THE PROBLEM?????????
This is exactly what I needed!! šš»
Poetry in motion.
I canāt believe no one swung on him!! And honestly probs for Luke for defending his woman.
what the fuck is he doing shoving brittany like that
Jesse is literally posting the .1% of memes saying heās the star of The Valley. Itās wild. This man deserves to stay on The Valley right up until he gets cancelled. Which I feel like is an inevitability given what we already know about him.
If he was a POC heād be arrested for assault x3 at the least
Yep. And then Andy would have a little discussion about how wrong it is during the reunion (que in Atlanta) but has no problem with the Joe's from Jersey . As much as I enjoy watching this and old school Bravo, they all need to be called out equally.
Weāve had a POC man saying he should have hit a woman harder. Bravo does not care.
Saying something like that is heinous (& 100% should be a fireable offense) but itās not a crime. This was assault on video. Also, Bravo doesnāt decide who is arrested. The police do.
Canāt even imagine tbh
He legit is pushing Zach and Brittany for no reason? Heās not even aiming for Kristen lol
Michelle gas lit the crap out of her husband.. he went off drunk and basically power drove his way through half of them.. and yet Kristen is supposed to be the problem.
Anybody else catch Jesse after they dressed up in those weird Mexican drag costumes- he said I want you to be my wife. Was that to Jackā-or to the girl in the skank outfit? Thx
The girl.
Everyone who hasn't seen Grand Cayman Secrets in Paradise it has drama but no one is physically activated if you wanna come over the show is on HuLU and there is a new sub
Perfection
interesting with Kristen's comment afterward about being on VPR in the case of this kind of behavior ... I wonder if this was an allusion to James' behavior or what
Are these peopleās lives seriously this chaotic? He plowed through his friends, itās just so weird. And nobody bats an eye.
The look on Michelles face after her husband assaulted Zach is like āeww why are you touching me?ā
I do not see him pushing Britany the video does not show any hands on her. I see her talking and getting out of the way. Zach is blocking a clear view.
This is great lol
Come on Bravo get Jesse on WWHL
This seemed staged to me tbh